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Xbox One: The Last Microsoft Console?

Analysts debate whether Microsoft should get out of the devices business, including Xbox, following Ballmer's retirement

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ala_7673902d ago

Never expect that from M$ in the next 10 years!!!

Stuart57563902d ago

I think the 'console' will change and evolve into some unique and often bizarre things but I don't think the X1 will be the last console.

malokevi3902d ago

It's not going to happen. Microsoft isn't stupid. Their software isn't the immense, universal draw that it once was. They need to diversify their assets in order to survive, like all the biggest tech companies.

Analysts are dumb as dirt.

MWong3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

@ malokevi
M$ has one of the biggest and most commonly used OS in Windows. So yea, their software portfolio is still pretty immense. And who is to say that the $100M they spent on the controller R&D couldn't have been put towards Windows R&D?

I doubt it's true though. I could swear there was another article about something similar to this just a few days ago. If ValueAct has anything to do with it XBone will be M$ last console. They rather M$ focus on software & networking, due to the overall value of M$ creating gaming consoles.

I'm sure if M$ gets out of the console hardware business another company will step up.

SolidStoner3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

I cant see it to be the last console from MS side..

why? they still make goos money with these consoles (also by selling games on it)... and even if they loose some.. they can just start all over again.. its MS after all, they can screw up how many they like and later still make profit...

also I do believe that MS actually can do some good things, like creating or stimulating some good games and testing/creating new features... as much as I trust and prefer SONY I think that if there would be no MS and Nintendo.. Sony could really make some bad decisions..

Too much power isn't a good thing after all.. history tells that, not me..

actually some other companies could join gaming community, that would only improve the industry overall..

kneon3902d ago

@Tvensky

Except that they haven't actually made money from the xBox.

Since inception they have lost money overall, that's why stockholders and analysts periodically bring up the suggestion to get out of these side businesses and focus on their core offerings.

AngryTypingGuy3901d ago

I hope not. It's the competition that makes both Sony and MS put out so much content and try to wow us each year at E3 and in the Christmas season. It's the competition that leads to free game programs like the Instant Game Collection and Games with Gold. If one went away, it would make things less exciting for the customer.

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Gimmemorebubblez3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

If it fails miserably it will, however it will not and unless Xbox gets turned into a digital service, I expect to see the Xbox Two 6 years down the line.

@Maria

It's to big to fail and unlike the PS3 it has a strong-launch line up and will receive a massive MS marketing push- truth/opinion. I still think the PS4 will out sell the Xbox One 1.5:1.

Tony-A3902d ago

lol. Xbox Two.

"Hey man, are you buying the Xbox Two?"

"You mean the Xbox 360?"

"No man, that's their second console. I'm talking about their fourth console, the Two."

".... What?"

"Well, you know how their third console was the One?"

"Yeah."

"Okay, so the successor to the One is the fourth Xbox, which is Two."

".... Oh my god."

avengers19783902d ago

Not unless MS really sells off the Xbox division( but I don't see that really happening )
I give it 5-6 years, and there will be new consoles again. Remember the PS360/Wii generation was the longest one

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Belking3902d ago

This console could be the last. It's definitely built for the future. Eve if it is it's been an awesome ride so far with the xbox brand.

negative3902d ago

The way the PlayStation brand is losing money it will be gone before the Xbox brand.....

snitch_puck3902d ago

please, my friend. don't even start with that.

DebateMaster3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

Is this a joke? Its a fact that the PS brand is making money but as usual some ignorant fanboy will come up with some baseless random opinion as fact. The PS brand isn't going away anytime soon. Sony is supported 3 systems with AAA exclusives still being produced today on all of them. While Microsoft abandoned the 360 and is supporting the Xbox one. Neither company is dying anytime soon but if a company had to go first its MS. If the PS brand was dying do you think Sony could afford to support 3 systems at a time? How come MS can't support both 360 and one? Its an insult to those still investing in the 360.

gaelic_laoch3902d ago

The way the xbox brand is losing customers it will hardly get out of the stables!

Gimmemorebubblez3902d ago

Sony has erased most of its Psone and Ps2 profits between 2005-2009 but still has made a 3bn dollar profit since 1995 from the Playstation. Since 2000 Xbox has erased most of its losses but still is -1.9 billon USD in the red.#fact

Both the PS4 and the Xbox One have a lot to prove to investors.

Allsystemgamer3902d ago

It started making money a while ago. Nice try though Xbot. The ps4 preorders are also much higher than the X1

tiffac0083902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

From my understanding MS Xbox division has never recouped their loses from the original Xbox which was said to be about 3-4 billion dollars. Forbes has the article on that back at '05

There was also a report back in January (not sure of its accuracy) that pointed out that the Xbox Division has lost 3 billion dollars in a decade even when the 360 was making money.

Add the investment to the Xbox One.

Through all that and whatever the numbers on Sony's side. I still doubt both Sony or MS would just leave the industry. That would be just a fanboys wet dream.

Clarence3902d ago (Edited 3902d ago )

@ Negative

You wasted a bubble for that dumb a$$ comment? You know the PS brand is making money.

Brix903902d ago

@negative

Your name says it all nothing positive

Picnic3901d ago

Sony will have money from charging for all online play this time.

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user74029313902d ago

built for the future with AA batteries?

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snitch_puck3902d ago

It's not that it's the last one, but there is a possibility that Microsoft might create a new line of console, or better yet, they just focus more on their primary specialty, the PC.

snitch_puck3902d ago

Oh sorry. I thought I had provided my point/idea so I excluded that fact. My bad.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN4d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan4d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor3d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic3d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts3d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv724d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka4d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion4d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer4d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow14d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer4d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18814d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning774d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning774d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast4d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning774d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv729d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv728d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit8d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier8d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1019d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-8d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead8d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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