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How Microsoft's Surprisingly Strong Xbox One Video Game Lineup Gives Them An Early Edge

Forbes - Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer is out.

The long-time CEO leaves in his wake a company still struggling to adapt to a new era of hyper-connectivity, tablets, free software, and app-stores, but he also leaves the Xbox division with a surprisingly strong hand, despite the sudden departure of its former chief Don Mattrick.

PeaSFor3898d ago

nothing more than wishfull thinking.

OpieWinston3898d ago ShowReplies(31)
n4rc3898d ago

Ya sure.. Forbes is just some dumb fan site..

Microsoft stock is up from last year and last month.. X1 Pre orders sold out.. Best game lineup...
Wanna talk wishful thinking? The general attitude that all advancements xbox makes will be coming to playstation.. Keep dreaming

Remember you all going on about 5-1 or 4-1.. Then suddenly quiet down when it gets confirmed its more like 2-1.. Wonder how that looks now after after indie-con..

Wishful thinking indeed.. Lol

Sony fans may hate Microsoft.. But the rest of the world doesnt

gobluesamg3898d ago

It's 2-1 in North America which is not a good sign for Microsoft pre-orders. They can't be pleased with the worldwide demand.

Chevalier3898d ago

Seriously? Sold out at retail isn't difficult, the stock we're getting is so pathetically low. Also 2-1 is only the U.S. Last I checked that is ONE country. The rest of the world might not hate MS, but, only country outside U.S. that actually outsold Sony was the U.K. where they are currently losing as well. Also Sony is releasing in 32 countries vs. The paltry 13 that MS is releasing.

XabiDaChosenOne3898d ago

You do realize that 2-1 could be the difference between
10million-5million
20million-10million
60million-30million
Etc.
And if you think the Xbox one is going to come back in any way you can just kill that dream right now.

JokesOnYou3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

@gobluesamg, Chevalier & Kobe357 preorders are just an early indication of likely 1 month sales= early adopters/hardcore fanbase, even then they can change rapidly all the way up to just days before launch, but either way not 1 ps4 or X1 has been sold yet so I'd be careful assuming too much:

"Wii U Pre-orders Selling Out Across U.S."
http://www.ign.com/articles...

"Wii U pre-orders have been sold out at GameStop, according to the retailer due to “off the charts” demand."
http://www.vg247.com/2012/0...

"Wii U Pre Order And Launch Units Sold Out, But More To Come On Black Friday Says Nintendo"
http://www.ibtimes.com/wii-...

"Of course, if you can't find a Wii U preorder anywhere around your town — or online — you can always hit up the online auction sites."
http://www.pcmag.com/articl...

-Sure preorders matter, but more importantly its who's going to pick up a ps4 or X1 beyond the hardcore fans? I believe Microsoft has the edge so far because of its core games launch lineup which will steadily grab a lot of attention as the drm fiasco has lost much of its steam, remember micro hasn't really begun advertising yet and gamescom seems to be the start of whats to come but also I think micro has a wild card up their sleeve with Kinect and their all in one TV approach is going to have a lot of appeal with the non-loyal folks looking to buy a next gen console= 10's of millions who don't preorder and easily eclipse the loyal fanbase of both consoles several times over. So with that said if preorders were so important ask Nintendo about this:

"The Wii U Needs to Be Replaced By A Real Contender – Now"
http://www.slashgear.com/th...

"The Wii U is in trouble. Yesterday it was revealed that in the last quarter Nintendo’s latest home console had sold only 160,000 units globally, with only 10,000 being sold in Europe."
http://www.thesixthaxis.com...

"Nintendo talks up former glories after Wii U sales flop"
http://www.theverge.com/201...

-Need I go on? There are now literally 1000's of Nintendo is in trouble and Nintendo sales flop stories but hey there were 1000's of Nintendo will sell like hotcakes stories based on preorders too. Unfortunately beyond Nintendo hardcore fans(preorders) non-loyal gamers and casual consumers haven't found much value in the wii-u. If this doesn't demonstrate preorders don't matter as much as YOU THINK then I don't know what does.

nukeitall3898d ago

@Kobe357:

it can also be the difference of 1 and 2 million.

That said, there are so many factors coming into play. Remember the PS3?

Sold out everywhere, but the market quickly collapse and out of nowhere the Wii was a huge hit! Outsold everything else and it wasn't even on the pre-order radar!

Todays console is a lot more than just the niche core market....

Ulf3898d ago

n4rc is right, with regards to the pre-order ratio.

The PS4 will only outnumber the XB1 sales in the beginning, while the hardcore crowd (the kind who read N4G) jumps onboard. It will likely mirror this generation, after that, unless something serious changes, over the next couple of years.

Sony's new pay-to-play-online policy may swing the sales toward MS in some regions, since free-to-play used to be a major selling point. Likewise, if one platforms exclusives outshine another's, that will change things up as well.

No_Limit3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

KIobe
"You do realize that 2-1 could be the difference between
10million-5million
20million-10million
60million-30million
Etc. "

LOL, do you really think that there will even be that many systems at launch?

Also, the Gamestop 1.5 million vs 700,000 (the current 2-1 ration) is not how many pre orders there is, it is just what the title said "first to know".

From gamestop: "PowerUp Rewards members can join the First to Know List to receive title announcements, trade and pre-order details, and similar offers related to the PS4.*"

LOL, this thing is getting sillier and sillier everyday.

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zerocrossing3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

It's entirely subjective.

If you're actually interested in those games then yes MS may have the edge, but if you honestly don't give a damn about those games mentioned then the Xbox One has nothing that places it above the competition.

The same goes for Sony's PS4 and Nintendo's Wii U.

Shadowsteal3898d ago

I love how Xbox fanboys can't see what happened to their beloved 360 the last exclusive title worth playing released in march, Gears of War Judgement. Which was crap, all my Xbox friends were severely dissapointed.

Meanwhile we on PS3 got or will get:
Ni No Kuni
God of War: Ascension
The Last of Us
Tales of Xillia
Kingdom Hearts HD
FFX HD
Rain
Puppeteer
Beyond: Two Souls
Gran Turismo 6

Truth is 360 gamers got nothing to play, that's why they're hyping up Xbox One lineup.

But little do they know, that sooner or later after their lineup releases and PS4's lineup releases. Xbox One owners will have nothing to play but on PS4 you'll start seeing.

Uncharted 4
Littlebigplanet 3
Last of Us 2
Gran Turismo 6 or 7 for PS4
Ratchet and Clank (Into the Nexus proves there will be more coming to PS in the future)
The Last Guardian
Media Molecule New IP
Sony Santa Monica New IP
Guerrilla Games New IP
Quantic Dream New IP

And so many more us PS4 gamers won't know how to count. All of these new IP's have been confirmed by either the respective developer themselves or Sony to be in the works. Trust us Xbox enthusiasts with PS3 we've been blessed with hard hitting exclusive after exclusive to the point that we've been spoiled. And we know exactly what to expect with PS4. And know to expect nothing else from Xbox One.

pompombrum3898d ago

PS3 also had Time and Eternity and Dragon's Crown. Just looking at the exclusives so far this year paints a pretty sad picture imho for the Xbox and why I'm not quick to jump on the Xbox One wagon until they prove themselves.

Shadowsteal3898d ago

@aiBreeze

Forgot about Dragon's Crown great game, perfect for Vita!
Time and Eternity wasn't so hot so I didn't include it.

vividi3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

You left Ratchet and Clank into the Nexus and Sly Cooper that lunched in February

Shadowsteal3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

@viviendi

Wow lmfaoo see how spoiled we are? I can't even remember all of them at once.

PS4Life

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strifeblade3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

SONY FANBOYS BEFORE E3: "The whole xbone lineup will be kinect LOLOLOL"

Reality: More than most people expected- microsoft stole the show in terms of games.

SONY FANBOYS AFTER E3: "Sony's smart- they didn't blow their load all at e3, just wait until gamescom- over 20 exclusives confirmed. MORE THAN MICROSOFT! LOL Can't wait to see AAA titles from AAA studios!"

Reality: Gamescom consisted of pure indy announcement and was a complete dissapointment regardless of what the faboys say. Bunch of confirmed timed exclusives and exclusives shared with pc.

who would have thought sony fanboys would brag about exclusives that are shared with pc or are timed exclusives LOL. The first year in nexgen gaming in terms of games belong on xbox one.

JackStraw3897d ago

Basement Crawl
Deep Down
Driveclub
Everybody's Gone to the Rapture
Galak-Z: The Dimensional [could be timed]
Infamous: Second Son
Killzone: Shadow Fall
Knack
MLB 14: The Show
N++ [could be timed]
The Order: 1886
The Playroom
Resogun
Rime
Shadow of the Beast

vs.

Crimson Dragon
D4
Dead Rising 3
Fable Legends
The Fighter Within [Kinect]
Forza Motorsport 5
Halo
Killer Instinct
Kinect Sports Rivals [Kinect]
Powerstar Golf
Quantum Break
Ryse: Son of Rome
Sunset Overdrive

15 > 13?

strifeblade3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

You do know deep down is not confirmed exclusive, not ever was there a mention by the developer of the game being exclusive. So i am tired of hearing this game as confirmed exclusive because if it was they would have advertised the crap out of it. All is known they are making a ps4 version- thats it.

Playroom is a techdemo comes comes pre installed on every ps4. Oh you conveniently forgot to mention titanfall. I don't care if its a 1 to 1 and a half year console exclusive- it matters. Resogun is a schmup on psn, if your going to include this small psn title and not include arcade exclusives like lococycle (not much to brag about honestly but neither is resogun lol), or below another exclusive, or project spark? Pretty biased list missing a few on the x1 side and adding 2 too many exclusives on the ps4.

17>11?

JackStraw3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

@strifeblade well seeing as the game has only been announced for ps4, and in that announcement it was said the game is being made with an engine developed specifically for the ps4, it's safe to assume that it's a ps4 exclusive.

but feel free to QQ more.

titanfall isn't an exclusive, it's a console exclusive. want me to list all of the console exclusives for ps4 as well? i can. i didn't include lococycle because IT'S NOT EXCLUSIVE TO XBOX ONE. neither is below or project spark! below is a timed exclusive, project spark is a console exclusive. i know that's hard to grasp, but i listed EXCLUSIVES for each console. not console exclusives, not timed exclusives, not brand exclusives, just plain old exclusives.

take playroom away. 14 > 13.you bash on resogun, yet have no problem with those mediocre kinect games? OKAY!

again, feel free to QQ more.

christocolus3897d ago

Lmao...you are totally right.I actually forgot about all the arrogant comments some sfans were making before these shows...lmao...

jessupj3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

It's funny how MS fanboys are bragging about exclusives all of a sudden.

Both launch line ups are comparable, but I would still give a slight edge to the X1 line up. Keyword there being 'slight'. To say games belong to X1 in the first year is completely untrue.

But the fact is all this talk about how much better each launch line up is stupid. Like a few other wise people in this thread have said, I'll be playing my PS4 for years to come, not just the first 3 months.

The much smarter thing to do would be to look at past history to determine what the next 8 years will look like. Sony absolutely smashes MS in the exclusive department. It's pathetic how few exclusives MS have released in the last few years for the 360, but certain people like to forget this little inconvenient fact.

But I of course expect MS fanboys to cling onto the unimportant launch line up, because as soon as they do they smart thing, they realise the PS4 is a much more attractive option to a core gamer, and they can't have that now, can they?

Keep clinging to your launch line up because I'll be enjoying exclusive after exclusive for the ENTIRE next generation.

Good day sir!

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quenomamen3898d ago

Strong line up of launch games on a weaker more expensive system. What about in a year ? What about 3 years from now. A good line up of launch games is just that, a good line up of launch games.

s8anicslayer3897d ago (Edited 3897d ago )

In all fairness if you take away Ryse and maybe 1 or 2 other xbox one launch titles that were originally pinned to be on 360 you'll then understand why the 360 lacked some AAA games in 13 and why the One is launching with a "Potentially stronger lineup". Imagine if Sony saved TLOU as a PS4 launch title how the PS4 would've been bolstering a deadly launch lineup with full retail games and free to play and PSN games not to mention the free PS+ you'll get. Both systems offer a great launch lineup the bigger question is who will offer the most games within the launch window and first year.

Christopher3897d ago

This is like the 5th article saying this exact same thing from forbes since day 1 of gamescon.

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NateCole3898d ago

???. 33 vs 22 for PS4. If we are only counting AAA games then we already know the story here. PS is the home of AAA games. Sony have proven this since 1995.

All indications point to an early PS4 lead in anycase. Both hardware and software.

thrust3898d ago

Day one games are not good tho, unless you like indie indie indie!

I have my tablet and phone for indie games while am traveling.

Both consoles will do great tho.

Shadowsteal3898d ago

The thing is that this Generation we have Massive third party support alongside the Launch.

So I'll be Playing

Killzone
Knack
Watchdogs
Drive Club
Assassin's Creed 4
Battlefield 4
Infamous: Second Son

So I don't think I'll have time for "Indie, Indie, Indie"

So many gamers have the wrong perspective on Indie's. Insomniac is an Indie look at their games. The Indies you see PS4 touting are starting their games with Sony support. Yknow why? because they're going to be incubated with Sony and at one point join the ranks of SOny top-tier developers with AAA games. Quantic dreams is technically still indie, they choose to make their games exclusive to PS.

gamertk4213898d ago

The same applies to now. Oh, 360 fans don't have anything to play since Gears, but I'll tell you what I played since then. I enjoyed Bioshock Infinite, State of Decay, caught up on the Walking Dead game, playing Splinter Cell, going to get Diablo 3, Madden and GTA5. Hell, I even played Last of Us, but you're too narrow minded to dream that someone might actually have...(gasp) both consoles! The only other PS3 game you listed that I might possibly play is Beyond, but that will definitely be a weekend rental. See, I don't care as much about exclusives, so much as games I enjoy, so your diatribe means little to nothing.

DigitalRaptor3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

So you can describe Killzone: Shadow Fall, DriveClub, Knack, War Thunder, Watch_Dogs, Battlefield 4, AC4 and several more as "not good" without even playing them, and then oust a plethora of unique and creative indie games as a kind of "saving grace" for PS4.

Every single one of Sony's game's ships as a complete game, the same cannot be said for MS.

I'm used to seeing people ignoring years of historic evidence but it never makes you any less short-sighted. All I hear is "launch" this and "launch" that - Short term mentality is not something to be proud of.

@ gamertk421

And what if someone doesn't have both consoles? The job of a console manufacturer is to support their consoles for the long-term, something Microsoft has not done historically. Shifting your lineup to next generation to attempt to compete is not admirable or respectable.

FrigidDARKNESS3898d ago

MS has the better launch day line up for gamers it doesn't natter how many titles a console has.

OpieWinston3898d ago

LAUNCH LINEUP (Note I didn't say EXCLUSIVE LINEUP!)
Dead Rising 3
Ryse: Son of Rome
Watch Dogs
AC4: Black Flag
Killer Instinct
Zoo Tycoon
Skylander: Swap Force
Battlefield 4
Call of Duty Ghosts
Crimson Dragon
Fifa 14
Fighter Within
LEGO Marvel Super Heroes
Lococycle
Madden NFL 25
NBA 2k14
NBA Live 14
Peggle 2
Powerstar Golf
Need for Speed Rivals
Zumba Fitness: World Party
Forza Motorsport 5
Just Dance 2014

it has a bit for every console gamer, even a bit for some PC gamers making the integration to console gaming like a new look on Zoo Tycoon is going to be nice to see.

Killzone Shadow Fall as a launch title? It's a mediocre FPS especially since Battlefield 4 and CoD Ghosts are both coming out at that date. Titanfall and Halo will be positioned perfectly, after the Battlefield/CoD hype goes down for MOST they will jump on Titanfall and seeing how hyped it is right now the hype could go all the way to the next Halo launch...Sooo yeah Xbox One is home for Shooter lovers definitely.

Rant Rant Rant Rant

Point is...It's a better launch lineup if you look at the facts. PC ports don't make a good launch lineup AT ALL!

KonsoruMasuta3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

Opie, the PS4 get's most of those games too. I don't see how you can use them in an argument that the One has a better lineup.

Blastoise3898d ago

^

Yeah Killzone is mediocre but games like Peggle 2, Ryse Son of Rome, Crimson Dragon and Fighter within are going to set the world on fire right?

/S

DatRealBoy3898d ago

@opie r you mad because most of the hype train is going towards ps4 im not saying xbox wont sell but it will be out sold by ps4

PFFT3898d ago

@Blastoise

You know youll be playing Peggle 2 when it releases on the PS4. So stop with the sarcasm.

JackStraw3897d ago

@opie what are the "facts" that "pc ports don't make a good launch lineup"? most people who will buy a ps4 have never played games like ps2 or warframe, so they're pretty much new games to them. they are perfect for a launch lineup because 1) it opens up the console to devs so they can get used to it for future game releases and 2) it gives more games to play on the console at launch, for the reason i listed above. most people who will buy the console hasn't played them.

i guess pc ports don't make a good launch lineup but 360 games that have been updated for the one & kinect games do?

hey, logic!

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1lawrence3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

it better have a better lineup what has microsost been doing the last 3 years nothing plus all three exclusives are not original ips makes it eaiser to make at least sony started out the gate with two new ips drive club n knack u may not like these games but at least there still taking risk with new software instead of the safe no imagination route that microsost takes just buy third party games

christocolus3897d ago

I feel same way..its shocking how sony fans are listing indies titles as core launch titles and bragging about having the advantage...its really weird

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from the beach3898d ago

They seem to be - and should be - pushing this 'best for games' angle.. that's what will sell the console through the launch period.

Funny now looking back on all the 'TV' stupidity!

n4rc3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

Its not stupidity.. Its incredibly useful IMO..

I'm 30 years old.. I watch TV.. A lot more then I play games..
Having my cable run through the xbox is a huge selling feature..

Can come home from work and just say "xbox tv" and boom.. Tvs on.. A friend is online and wants to chat or play a game? I get the notification and can instantly switch to the game..

Then i can keep watching the leafs games while its sets the match up Or instantly and effortlessly switch back and forth while never leaving my game

Edit: original AND clever.. Lol.. Full package there ;)

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from the beach3898d ago

n4rc

You've mistaken my point, I meant the people who complained that Xbox One was focused only on TV features, before the games were announced, now look stupid.

I'm pumped for the switching / voice on features too!

Braveheart_NZ3898d ago (Edited 3898d ago )

I am buying my consoles for games first and foremost and both companies will have great exclusives that I will enjoy, but regarding cable tv, it doesn't look like Microsoft is the only one that is going to have TV on its system. Sony is in talks with several high profile media organizations to help populate an internet-based service that will stream channels and offer up on-demand content. The offering, which Sony is apparently looking to launch by the end of the year, would be the realization of some long time aspirations. Viacom is apparently at top of the list of potential partners, as the home of channels like MTV, Comedy Central and Nickelodeon. That deal is said to be in the preliminary agreement stage.Sony's also been holding meetings with a number of other content providers like Disney, Time Warner and CBS. It wont need a cable box plugged into the PS4. Those cable services will stream directly through the PS4. I look forward to there future announcement on this matter. I have both consoles pre-ordered and already paid for in full, so I am no fan boy. I will enjoy both consoles for what they BOTH offer :)

DatRealBoy3898d ago

in all honesty I don't see how that's a game changer its a glorified input button

SonyWarrior3898d ago

30 year old 2 bubble troll on n4g.... lmao what a sad pathetic life.

Ju3898d ago

$500 for a voice controlled cable box extender. Well, if money doesn't matter. sure. Why not

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7218h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle5h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga5h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1017h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac6h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1016h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 15h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 12h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 10h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 3h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 4h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 12h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic22h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9022h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 14h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 14h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 11h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 13h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 12h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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