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Microsoft: Restructure will help us win next-gen

The major corporate restructure announced by Microsoft earlier today will open up ways to "provide more value" to Xbox customers and partners, and streamline resources to help it "win in this devices and services era", the company has told VideoGamer.com.

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mewhy323942d ago

ROFL!!!! Aliens from mars couldn't win next gen for micro$oft after Don got done with them. Yeah. PS4/Killzone combo already ordered.

OC_MurphysLaw3942d ago

ROFL... Aliens from Mars would dominate.

As for actually responding to the article... The restructuring will be a good step for MS overall as they move toward a more "Apple" like philosophy internally.

dedicatedtogamers3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Exactly, Microsoft is trying to become like Apple, and look at all the tremendous things Apple has done in the gaming industry!

Oh...wait.

Edit @ below

Yes, I lack vision because I don't worship Microsoft, even though I've been using their products since MS-DOS. I clearly lack vision. I had no idea they are the saviors of the game industry. Gimme some GFWL!

OC_MurphysLaw3942d ago

@dedicatedtogamers... I choose to just look at all the tremendous things Apple has done. I would much rather them go down the Apple path of corp structure than that of Sony.

Just so we are clear, taking on a more Apple approach doesn't mean they can't make a console that plays games. Your narrow minded view clearly just shows a lack of vision.

YNWA963942d ago

Yeah, look at Sony now, PS4 is huge... and its all they have left to be honest when it comes to hardware. Apple have done much more... MS are still huge but not as big as they used to be. Lets keep things in perspective.

S2Killinit3942d ago

you prefer that they follow a non gaming/casual approach to gaming? Good to know. Good news for you is that Microsoft is already headed that way. You know, with casuals and stuff. For the rest of us gamers, PlayStation it is.

Aery3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Looks like we have the "rise" of the Xbone here.

Ps4 already preorder.
X1 ... http://beastmodaldomains.fi...

Loki863942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

@dedicated - you don't lack vision you just lack a middleground because there is no neutral territory with any of your posts. This will hopefully focus MS so they can show their investors that Xbox is entirely justified. Anyways, I want both consoles to succeed and continue to see competition which leads to better products and services, unlike you who is obviously one-sided.

http://www.forbes.com/sites...

Ashlen3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

This restructure is a joke.

They shifted a few people are changed some division names and boom they think their going to win next gen. It's all the same people with the same mindset.

And trying to sell Xbox's to business is laughable and should really show you how little Microsoft understands what there customer wants. And what the mindset is at Microsoft.

The Xbox has been one of the most poorly handled products I can remember in my lifetime. And on top of that Windows 8 is going no where as well.

If a company has too restructure due to there most popular products basically falling flat you know there in trouble.

dudeOplenty3942d ago

@Gman

This is the same thinking I would have if I saw things on a national level. I'm not sure where you're from but I'm the US, and, yes.. Sony isn't that big here. However, when I interact and visit other countries in the world, I've seen that Sony competes with the best of them in terms of sales and popularity - this goes for Europe, Asia, and South America.

YNWA963942d ago

@ dudeoplenty, I am in Canada last 13 years, From Ireland though. Not saying Sony are small, but they have lost huge market share last 15 years I think. They do make quality stuff, TV's and so on, but there is now always a cheaper alternative that is still decent quality. Apple ended there dominance with discmans, walkmans. Samsung own TV market now. They are a non player in cell/mobile market. While they still sell well, they are not the monster they once were. PS is a priority now for them, for a long time Playstation division in Sony was the poor cousin in the overall Sony structure, but with all others losing ground, PS became important, an area of growth. I think MS are still learning with how to do hardware, and it shows, but being honest they have stimulated the console market.. Happy for that.

badz1493941d ago

win next gen? lol with what? by putting another non-gamer in charge?

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pete0073942d ago

Ok, ryse, forza5, and about 10 others combo for me!!!!

Martywren3942d ago

Yeah im excited for ryse and quantum break, and this is good news for MS fanbase i really want xbox one im still waitin too see waiting on seeing wat MS gaming restructure business are.

JBSleek3942d ago

Yea I know right what the hell are they thinking. It's not like Sony had a $600 console and that in the beginning everyone was saying it was over and turn out to be fine.

How dare Microsoft think they have a chance in a generation for them that starts in four months and will last years.

/s

dark-hollow3942d ago

But that was about our lords and saviours! Of course they gonna turn around things for the better while the evil M$ gonna go bankrupt because the user "kaz<3PS4life" on n4g said so.

devwan3942d ago

Sony turned things around in many ways. Reducing hardware costs, focussing on great exclusive titles, offering great value to ps+ subscribers and supporting their machine for a respectable amount of time. They held their hands up and set off in a new direction, one that resonated well with consumers (given the sales of ps3 overtaking those of the 360).

It's not in ms' interest to try to put that kind of effort or spending in place to put things right with xbox one, all this restructuring does is further reinforce the concerns of genuine gamers as there's nothing tangible here for them to believe in.

They're starting off in last place with lesser hardware at a higher price point... that's where they'll stay as they're too much the big bungling monster corporation who will only do 180s in the face of absolute failure and unprecedented pressure rather than putting systems in place that sit well with consumers to begin with.

zebramocha3942d ago

@jbleek they had a $600 console with none of the drm crap that Ms had and supposedly better spec.

Imalwaysright3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

That €600 price tag was the reason why Sony lost half of their market share this gen and they were coming from a gen where they absolutely crushed their competition. What makes you think that a weaker brand won't suffer the same or even worst fate?

DoubleM703942d ago

These idots think XboxOne is done before it comes out. PS4 will stay at 399 for the rest of it's generation. While the XboxOne is going to get cheaper and better as the years go by. Quit being a Sony Pony buy both consoles.

imt5583942d ago

@DoubleM70

If XO get price drop, PS4 will get it to.

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DiRtY3942d ago

I love it when N4G users comment on financial stuff.

Here are my favorites:

Ashlen:
"If a company has too restructure due to there most popular products basically falling flat you know there in trouble."

dedicatedtogamers:
"Either way, the Xbox brand is not a big money-maker for Microsoft nor is it their focus right now. They are losing tens of billions of dollars in their OS, Office, business, server, mobile, and online divisions."

logan_izer10
"Wow. Buying an Xbox One sounds like an even more terrible decision. Gong show over at the Microsoft offices. Anyone who has worked in an office where they are shuffling around responsibilities like this will know that this means trouble."

All just days away from the annual earnings release of MS. This might be the first time ever MS managed to make 20 billion USD profit in one single year. That is an all time high for the company.

Oh and stock price is up 2.93% today.

Never change N4G, never change.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney3941d ago (Edited 3941d ago )

aliens from mars made ps4!! They wear fake skin like MARK...

greenlantern28143941d ago

Companies restructure when things are either going poorly or they want to put people in place that are more inline with the company. Another way of saying people that will do what they are told to do by the real boss.
Which could be a very bad thing for Xbox1 and Xbox fans.
It might be good, but I think you the Xbox fans should question the 2 people put in charge of the 2 divisionsthat now make up Xbox are not from a gaming back ground. IMO this should worry you

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dedicatedtogamers3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Notice how they specifically say "win in this devices and services era". They say " we remain focused on shipping Xbox One and the amazing experiences we have planned for this holiday."

The word "game" was not once used, was it?

Yeah...um, no. The restructuring is doing to mean that every macro-decision for Xbox One is going to be made in the context of "how does this help the Microsoft ecosystem? How does this help Windows, WP8, Surface, Skype, etc?"

The Xbox division was started as a very separate entity, able to make its own choices and decisions apart from the overall Microsoft direction. Starting in 2007 when Mattrick joined and Ballmer started to get more involved, we've seen what happens when the Xbox brand starts to get more integrated with the rest of Microsoft: more services, fewer games.

FanboyCrusher3942d ago

It's a gaming machine, it's a given. We know it's going to play games, hell we've seen a lot of them already. Them getting features down is fine. They should do more games, but we still have a few more conventions before launch. Don't complain about features either. Anybody that owns a computer, or a smartphone and complains about features is a hypocrite.

dedicatedtogamers3942d ago

Do you know what a hypocrite is? I buy a videogame console to play games and I buy a PC to multitask, but I'm a hypocrite if I want my videogame console to focus on games?

You do not know what that word means. I bought a new refrigerator the other day, but I guess I'm a hypocrite for not wanting to pay extra to have my car equipped with a fridge. What a hypocrite I am! Lemme guess: if I own a webcam, I'm a hypocrite for not liking Kinect, right?

S2Killinit3942d ago

its not a given. Microsoft banks on people thinking that no matter how much they favor the casual over the core gamer, gamers will follow them. that is why they started the charge to play online, that is why they were pushing for DRM, that is why they will incorporate kinect in the box. They know you are buying their console no matter what. Then when you are outnumbered by casuals, they will dwindle down support for core gaming, and focus on casual and kinect. (kind of like the second half of current gen, except this time kincet is already bundled in). So yeah, go for it and support them, hopefully you wont have to learn too late that you supported the company that see's gaming as a mere catalyst into more profitable markets.

FanboyCrusher3942d ago

@DTG Do you own a cellphone? Then you're a hypocrite. Buying a PHONE is so you can call people. It's the least of what you use it for, guaranteed. We live in the age of convenience, complaining about this is pretty stupid. You should go and complain to Sony over the fact the PS4 won't have a Blu-Ray player. Of course it does have one but you seem to need constant conformation of something for it to exist. The vapid morons on this site never cease to amaze me.

Belking3942d ago

"we've seen what happens when the Xbox brand starts to get more integrated with the rest of Microsoft"

Yes we have. What happened was selling 4 times as much as last gen--------dominated the largest market for the past few years----grown a online service to be the standard for the industry------taken considerable market share from their competitors-----developed a successful 3d cam that help prolonged the life of xbox360---- built a strong brand name in xbox around the world. yea, we've seen it all.

dedicatedtogamers3942d ago

All of the gaming-related advancements the Xbox brand made were when the division was still a separate entity. Once Mattrick took over, that's when everything shifted focus to dashboard advertisements, avatars, Kinect, and yearly rehashes of the same franchises.

D-riders3942d ago

lol is this serious. first off the standard for gaming ai steam. that is what companies are trying to achieve.
next they where the first console out, bam that already sold more than last gen.
dominated America, but have been the slowest selling console for 8years
nintendo actually took the market share from sony.
lol kinect successful... just cause people but it doesnt mean it worked. it probably cost more to sell it than the game profited and its a major downfall of xbox one.(spyware)
then the xbox brand was tarnished and confused with the xbox 1 name.
get your fact straight.
here how about this ,
Implemented a system that would force gamers to be pay for services that are free on anyother system.
inflated numbers due to rrod
figured a way to charge consumers for every part of the their system
broken disc tray which cost more moeny in replaceing the system
made advertisement more important than gaming
focused on netflix mroe than games
no handheld
has not release and new AAA exclusive IP in three years.
what happens when microsoft incorporates all their products.
windows 8 .... and what happen it sucks thenw hat windows 8.1
get your facts straight quit being a fanboy

Death3942d ago

When was Xbox a seperate entity? They were part of the Entertainment and Devices Division for years. Now the division has been expanded to house Surface along with the rest of Microsofts devices being sold.

creatchee3942d ago

Oh shut up, dedicatedtogamers. You add nothing to most threads that you "contribute" your "thoughts" to. What you do accomplish is perpetuating the idea that Sony Fanboys run this site and driving a wedge between supporters of both sides who aren't raving madmen like you.

The only thing that you are dedicated to is your personal agenda.

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OC_MurphysLaw3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

Are Forza 5, BF4, COD:Ghosts, Ryse, Watchdogs, AC:4 Black Flag, etc... all still getting released this holiday on Xbox One? Yes... those are games... so I don't really care if in a PR blurb they don't say the word "game" when talking about changes on the overall structure for Microsofts Xbox division.

MS is becoming a unified ecosystem...just like Sony is. It is the smartest decision they can make given so much of their services and devices can logically interact with one another. Having some splinter group that doesn't work or interact with the others makes ZERO sense when integration is a goal of all the major players in the computing space.

D-riders3942d ago

diacy
your 100% right excpet for MS isnt a game company

Death3942d ago

Neither Microsoft or Sony are game companies. Both companies offer gaming consoles though. Nintendo is a game company that only sells gaming products. Usually.

Glad we got that confusion out of the way.

OC_MurphysLaw3942d ago

@Death +Bub for knowing your business

XabiDaChosenOne3942d ago

Well that's a very short sighted perspective on things.

badkolo3942d ago

actually they have been making games way back on the pc before they hit the console market. there is a reason they came into the console market and did well.

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dark-hollow3942d ago

PlayStation fanboys are REALLY desperate for a Xbox one with less focus on games.

Please spare us your insightful nitpicking (I mean analysis) of their comments.

They've showed games, they've showed more exclusives and more new IPs AS YOU ALL WANTED!! you've been crying and bitching for new games and new IPs for the Xbox and all laughed at how the Xbox one e3 conference gonna be full of kinect and kanye west. They proved you wrong and they showed tons of games. move on please.

zebramocha3942d ago

What about 2009 until they xbone unveiling?they were showing less and less from a first party perspective.

GodGinrai3942d ago

@Zembamocha

That was acknowledged in dark hollows post. We ALL seen those E3s. WE all agree they were terrible showings. But in 2013 with X1 they have shown games.

X1 is a gaming platform. It just so happens to be a lot more than that and people seem to negatively spin that into.."X1 is not about games".

Do you know how most N4G posters come off like to me? It comes across like Most of you want them to fail. like most of you dont want them having japanese games, or being successful in japan. like most of you just like to dislike MS. That cant be helped. But It does mark you out as trolls and fanboys. I personally have no nagative feelings towards big companies..or good ones to be honest. They are not aware of me. I dont give them the emotional energy I see people on N4G give off. Fanboys and trolls. Everywhere on N4G.

tuglu_pati3942d ago (Edited 3942d ago )

@dedicatedtogamers

How the hell you got so many bubbles :0.

On topic, I don't see anything wrong with my gaming consoles having other features as long as they keep pumping out good games and as of right now MS is as well as Sony.

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D-riders3942d ago

LOL, THAT ITS WAY TOO LATE FOR THAT THE HARDCORE HAVE SPOKEN.
what Ms forgot is that the hardcore lead the way not, the casual market. what ever the hardcore buy the casual follow. you can look at alomost any industry and see that. look a the ipad, th ehardcore apple fans bought it first and then bam. the iphone the apple lovers got it then bam . samsung galaxy the hardcore(people who line up) got it first the bam.

MS lets target the people who wont line up for our product and then... oh shit that didint work. .lol

CRAIG6673942d ago

Hardcore gamers also bought the Atari Jaguar, the Sega Dreamcast,the Nintendo Virtual boy...
You have absolutely no idea what you are blabbering on about... seriously get a life, it's sad.

devwan3942d ago

"Microsoft's plan to "win in this devices and services era" suggests that the firm may not be only going after Sony's PlayStation 4 with its upcoming Xbox One, but other rival platforms and services, too."

Aiming to shoot down all comers but ends up shooting itself in the foot time and again.

Their rhetoric is as poorly conceived as it is bafflingly banal. They really don't see the xbox one as a games console, that's just their trojan horse disguise... but it's one fewer than they expected look willing to welcome due to their arrogance and taking their fanbase for granted.

They're making all the wrong noises when GAMERS should be their priority (at least in the early stages, to get the dedicated supporters onboard and word of mouth under way).

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7220h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio3h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga6h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21835h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga4h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan24m ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

purple1019h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic5h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 16h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 14h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 11h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 4h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 6h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 2h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 14h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9023h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 15h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 15h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 12h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 14h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 14h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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