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Xbox One and PS4 interest ‘balanced’ suggests retailer

Trusted Reviews: "With a back and forth of consumer interest flitting between the two consoles, Microsoft and Sony are reportedly neck-and-neck in a bid to tempt potential customers into plumping for their respective next-gen consoles ahead of that of their bitter rival."

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pedrof933954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

I don't think so. PS4 pre-orders are way superior. Just take a look at Gamestop or amazon pre-order results.

Skips3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Anonymous retailer

vs.

GameStop and Amazon

LMFAO!!!!!!

NewMonday3954d ago

after 1 year in the market PS4 will likely sell over 12m consoles and the XBone less than 5m

dedicatedtogamers3954d ago

Yeah, the double-speak is funny.

It doesn't say "sales are balanced suggests retailer" which would indicate pre-orders from X1 are catching up.

It says non-words like "interest" instead of sales "balanced" instead of more specific words like "matched" or "exceed" or "nearly there".

And of course, the retailer is only "suggesting" it. They're not even coming out with hard data.

greenpowerz3954d ago

People are writing stories about the massive momentum shift. If momentum doesn't changed talking about how Sony had more sales due to DRM will be a moot point soon.

TheTwelve3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Greenpowerz, I googled "momentum shift" and "Xbox One" and I found no stories. Can you link me to one?

@Greepowerz --- N4G may be an pro-Sony haven where all negative stories are blocked, but they shouldn't be blocked from my view on Google. O.o

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MysticStrummer3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@TheTwelve - If you keep track of green's comments, you won't expect much in the way of proof.

@green - You're actually claiming N4G's approval process has anything to do with a Google search?

lol

Skips3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@greenpowerz

What "massive momentum shift"??? LMFAO!

Xbox One has been at the same spot on Amazon pre orders for weeks, even AFTER the DRM change.

Amazon updates their "best selling" DAILY. So you would've expected Xbox One's position to change right??? Well they haven't. XD

As of now, PS4 is beating Xbox One pre orders in the US by quite a margin (PS4 is #3 while Xbox One is #6) and is CURB STOMPING it in the UK, (PS4 is #4 and Xbox One is #69).

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

Last time I checked, the US and UK were Xbox dominant territories, yet is getting destroyed on the largest online retailer in the business.

Just imagine how much PS4 trounces it in PS dominated territories, like pretty much the rest of the world.

Manic20143954d ago

You do realise that Hameley's is one of the biggest toy store's in the world its located in London and also operates a franchise called GAME which is UK's main Video Game Store same as gamestop.

Skips3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

^

Hmmm, true. I should've put "Anonymous person" considering all we know from the guys is "a lead buyer for the iconic toys and games retailer", according to the article.

Still all he said was "Interest", not actual pre orders numbers...

And I'd take Amazon's http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/... actual chart (which tracks everything, that also updates daily) over a quote from some anonymous dude saying "INTEREST is pretty balanced". lol

EVILDEAD3603954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@ Sonic 2000

There has definitely been a positive momentum change for Xbox ONE since the announcement of the DRM reversal.

Best sellers on Amazon change daily. Xbox ONE has been at number one quite a bit since in the last week+

Right this very moment as I post this:

Amazon US: Xbox One #4th & the PS4 8th

http://www.amazon.com/best-...

Amazon UK: Xbox ONE #7 & the PS4 5th

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

This doesn't suddenly mean the Xbox ONE suddenly overtook the PS4 but there is a shift.

Momentum proof is in Mover & Shakers section of US Amazon and the Xbox ONE is #3 and the PS4 is #4

http://www.amazon.com/gp/mo...

Let's keep it real, no one knows the true numbers these are places on an Amazon chart. Even in your US links the only thing separating the two consoles are Xbox Live and PSN cards.

At the end of the day, even after the barrage of negative press the Xbox ONE which is 100 dollars more expensive than the PS4 is selling well at retail.

This is June and MS hasn't even start promoting the system yet.

Post BS policies, the Xbox ONE is going to sell out of it's preorders and inventory pre and post launch.

Both systems are going to enjoy a great holiday.

It's going to be fun times as we get closer and closer to launch.

Evil

Skips3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

^

"Amazon US: Xbox One #4th & the PS4 8th
Amazon UK: Xbox ONE #7 & the PS4 5th"

I'm talking about these... -_______-

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

You know... OVERALL??? -_- Xbox One is getting smashed...

US: PS4 = #3 OVERALL, Xbox One = #6 OVERALL
UK: PS4 = #4 OVERALL, Xbox One = #69 OVERALL

Even AFTER the DRM change, Xbox One hasn't even moved up ONE spot in the OVERALL pre orders. THAT's what I'm talking about and that's literally the only chart that matters. lol

If you didn't notice, there's a difference between the OVERALL pre order chart, and the CURRENT pre order chart.

OVERALL > CURRENT

The only reason why Xbox One pre orders are showing higher, or almost the same CURRENTLY

http://www.amazon.com/best-...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/...

is because the PS4 DAY ONE edition is ALREADY sold out and has been for weeks! lol

Not to mention the PS4 bundles that split ALL the pre orders into, like 5.

Xbox One DAY 1 edition hasn't even sold out, and it's practically the only one up for pre order.

So of course it would show higher, or almost the same as 5 SPLIT pre orders. And not to mention 1 THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SOLD OUT, just days after it went up. -_-

bviperz3953d ago

lol, nice try evil, trying to spin them numbers. You should work in the media!

JokesOnYou3953d ago

No spin Evil spelled it all out pretty well, sony's initial preorders were higher, yes the day edition is sold out, micro had a lot of bad press, plus higher price, no ads yet, its still a long way until Novemeber, and on the current best sellers list X1 is holding higher than ps4. Sure ps4 is split and leading overall but again who knows what the gap is now and more importantly what it will be come launch....that's not spin, that's facts.

EVILDEAD3603953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

@ Sonic,

No one is claiming MS suddenly overtook Sony preorder sales overnight. That would be silly.

What Amazon does prove is Xbox One is currently gaining positive traction.

MS only changed their policies a week and a half ago, the console isn't going to miraculously jump the overall sales gained by the PS4 immediately, but the console has been at number one in the US throughout the week.

Not taking away anything from the great job Sony has done gaining the good pub through E3, but considering that Xbox ONE is the 100 dollar more expensive console that has had to overcome the negative press, it definitely could be 100 times worse.

The bottom line is Amazon charts don't show actual sales numbers. At the end, of the day the real rubber is going to meet the road when the ad campaigns kick in and the masses start flocking to these consoles in the Fall leading all the way into holidays.

I just honestly see a big holiday for both consoles and sellouts on Black Friday, with Sony doing better worldwide.

Evil

Diver3953d ago

I looked at the pre orders an the ps4 easily leads at gamestop an best buy with it just behind the x1 at amazon an both x1 and ps4 dropping at amazon.

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ftwrthtx3954d ago

People seem to forget that not all retailers clump their PS4 pre-orders into one number. Bundles can be counted separately and then not added to the overall PS4 pre-order total. Amazon does this as the SKU's are different from a launch ps4 and a Killzone Bundle.

adorie3954d ago

This might sound immature, but the way they tally consoles is a bit stupid. A console sold should be a console sold. End of. But, what-everrrr.

ftwrthtx3954d ago

Completely agree with you adorie.

Timesplitter143954d ago

"Gamestop or amazon pre-order results."

Is there a place where I can see those?

CoolBeansRus3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@ TheTwelve
How often does that update?
What is the total number of pre-orders on the site?

Those are things you cant answer therefore that site is irrelevant. It shift up and down, im sure the playstation is ahead but that site proves nothing. I've seen the xbox one on top on that same amazon link. You just dont know how often it updates.

TheTwelve3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

If you read the websites (top left), it says that it updates daily.

While we don't know exact numbers, you will note that the PS4 is sold out while the X1 is not, yet the PS4 is still ahead (and quite a bit ahead in UK). If something is sold out, it can't advance any longer on the ranking and yet the PS4 still hold very high rank.

Also, you can also get a relative view of how things are going by comparing it to items sold around it.

For example, you can see in the UK that so far the X1 is being outsold by the "Skylanders Giants Character Pack:...whatever the heck that is.

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@CoolbeansRus
--- The "Launch edition" is indeed sold out.
--- We don't know how many PS4s are available, but point is that more PS4s are being sold. I suspect it will only look close(r) in US (as Amazon reflects)

CoolBeansRus3954d ago

Twelve, the ps4 is not sold out. It lets me pre-order right now. We also dont know how many PS4 are available compared to X1. Yet another reason why this site is unreliable.

jeffgoldwin3953d ago

Interesting how the sony chums come out to clammer a lead in pre-orders, but when a xbot does it, it goes like this: why do sales matter, do u own stock? Or maybe you work for ms so your opinion is irrelevant. Fans will be fans.

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CoolBeansRus3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Some of you need to grow up and stop with these silly comment. Just a bunch of trolls doing this:
BLAH VS BLA I dont think so MUAHAHA
LOOL LMAO!!!!!
AFTER bla blah 203 billion copies LMAO!!
Xbone muahhaha

The people who actually write something intelligent get thumbs down, but the trolls get thumbs up.

kickerz3954d ago

Totally agree wit u coolbeans.

brave27heart3953d ago

Ive made my decision. Regardless of what official sales figures are theres nothing that can devalue that decision.

GribbleGrunger3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

It doesn't matter which company sells the most the quickest, what matters is which company can ship the most. To put it another way: If Sony ship 1 million a month and sell those in 1 week and Microsoft ship 1 million and sell them within the month, the result will still be that both companies have sold 1 million units each in that month.

In the short term, when hardcore fans are buying, the difference won't be that noticeable. It will then be entirely down to who can ship the most and who can get the greatest mind share. Then it becomes a case of which company can actually shift what they ship because you can't sell more than you ship. With Sony announcing shipments to India and Mexico recently, and MS struggling to do the same, it looks like shipments for the PS4 will outpace those of the X1 quite significantly.

All Sony have to do is equal X1 in sales for America and the rest of the world will take care of itself. Success for the PS4 looks assured, whilst success for the X1 is not quite as clear.

adorie3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Well, if Sony sold 1 million in a week, imagine what the total sales would be VS the 1 million Xbones sold for that month?

*eyes crossed*

GribbleGrunger3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

lol. That's not quite what I meant adorie.

It has recently been mentioned that a company has been commissioned to make cheaper GDDR5 RAM and I'm guessing that it's Sony that commissioned them. The company making that GDDR5 RAM is likely to start production next year, according to the rumour. IF this is true and IF indeed it is Sony, then this suggests Sony will start producing more than a million consoles a month.

1.5 million a month would put them within the rumoured 16 million target for the first year ... but we still don't know if that figure was legitimate or whether, just like the PS2, that figure includes PS3s too.

Here's the rumour. Take it with a pinch of salt at the moment:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

"Had a conversation with a source in semi-conductors this morning, said that one of the major memory manufacturers is currently testing 8Gbit GDDR5 chips of identical specification that would be required for 8GB at 176GB/s. The source said that chips would be ready for commercial devices by the middle of 2014 and would lower the cost for Sony by around a third if they use these chips. They added that it seems like these chips are built to order for one major buyer (Sony I'm guessing)."

jeffgoldwin3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

"announcing shipments to India and Mexico recently"

Since when did Mexico ever become relevant? Kinda why immigrants are entering into the US by the thousands each day.

Come now, let's work on your troll here. India was an ok start (maybe). In the future, start out with Europe and next japan, then you will be well on your way to at least being a semi-logical fanboy muppet. I didn't want to step in, but it was sad to see a prospective muppet struggling to poorly.

GribbleGrunger3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

They announced shipments to India and Mexico ... What part of that don't you agree with? Let's ignore Mexico just for you. Read it again without Mexico, ok? Now carry on.

I'm not sure you understand the meaning of the word trolling. I've given MY opinion, that's all. Only a blithering idiot would not recognise that Sony are in the better position at the moment, and part of the reason is because of Microsoft's greed and incompetence.

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fermcr3954d ago

If Xbox One and PS4 interest are balanced (witch i don't believe), then that's pretty surprising. With all the crap the X1 has been taking, all the negative news and 100$ more expensive, i would of thought that the PS3 would be making a killing in preorders.

GribbleGrunger3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

Currently the PS4 is outpacing the X1 in pre-orders, but as I said above, that doesn't really make much of a difference in the short term. It does, however, make a difference in long term mind share.

At this point it appears that Sony will begin to pull away after three to four months (in WWS) and I'd say we could be looking at a 2.5 to 3 million lead after the first year of sales. Of course price will be a factor, as will exclusive games, but if the gap is bigger than that I'd have to say it will definitely be down to yield problems -- at least for the first year.

After that, like I said, it's ENTIRELY down to mind share and at this point Sony have a HUGE advantage in that respect, unless MS start a campaign of deceit and misinformation to 'slow' the sales of the PS4 (as opposed to boost the sales of their own console). I believe the road map has already begun in earnest ...

reaperofsouls3954d ago

PS4 is spanking XBOX in us/uk pre orders. These are M$ two biggest markets , so when you add on japan and the rest of europe it is a total victory for the Gamers console

DeadlyFire3953d ago

I think this retailer just sold out of both so they don't know how to measure it after they are out of units.

Gekko363953d ago

just checked the stats here is the UK and they seem to be pretty much the same in preorders and 12 months down the line it may still be the same.

I popped into GAME in Bangor Wales and they are saying the same that there are plenty of each knocking around and order are pretty much the same.

I suppose it's due to the near neck and neck install base for both xbox 360 and ps3. Most people are upgrading and sticking to their own brands which makes perfect sense.

Some core gamers may bitch and moan but to be honest there isn't going to be much of a difference really in the long run.

Both systems are similar, both have 7000 series graphics cards both have bluray, same for 8gb ram (yes gddr5 vs ddr3 with esram and that cool bandwidth move gizmo), both online, both pay for play (it's only £32, fuck all really). So not realy that much to get your knickers in a twist over, Xbox owners will probably stay put, same of praystation owners.

All this stress over fuck all really.. bless

jeffgoldwin3953d ago

Im tempted to say eff the whole console thing (neither are BC anyways, charge for online, and cost $400 or 500). Might just stick with a gaming pc and Steam. Then go plug and play with a next gen controller since 90%+ of games multiplatform anyways.

Idk than I miss out on a some exclusives. My head hurts now....

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DxTrixterz3954d ago

I was at my local GAME shop two days ago and I've asked how are pre-orders going. They said that there is a very high demand for both PS4 and X1 and both are being pre-ordered in nearly same amounts although they did not say which was getting more pre-orders.

Lwhit63954d ago

I think thats how its going to go. PS4 will win sales wise by just a few thousand units. But the Xbone will be close. (This is my prediction at least.)

CoolBeansRus3954d ago

Yea, i dont think the beginning will matter either. I think both systems will sell out, the race starts when they're both on shelves for people to grab not at the beginning when they are both selling out.

devwan3954d ago

CoolBeansRus, actually it does if one company has many, many more units available for launch and the holiday period.

CoolBeansRus3954d ago

Good point, but what matters at the end when the hype is gone is the system experience itself. We'll see how it goes, i personally will wait till the smoke clears before making my leap of faith.

devwan3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

@CoolBeansRus Yeah, a lot of people will be waiting to see what their friends bought as well for the multi-player.

Relientk773954d ago

From what I've been hearing there's more demand for the PS4

Automatic793954d ago

You have avenues like Amazon which actually have Xbox 1 currently at number 3 and PS4 at 8, Gamestop has been reportedly doing well with both systems and don't forget on Xbox Live they are taking Xbox One pre-orders. This race is not over and we still have till November to see who is actually going to be pre-order best sellers.

NewMonday3954d ago

XBone has 1 bundle, PS4 has multiple bundles, do think this fact will go away if you repeatedly ignore it?!

Automatic793954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

So why is it that those bundles are not on the top 3 or best sellers list?

CGI-Quality3954d ago (Edited 3954d ago )

They have to be in the top 3 to prove something? OK, news to me.

Look again at the best sellers list. The PS4 has multiple bundles in the Top 20.

Automatic793954d ago

Why is it that any of those bundles are not on top?

TIER1xWOLFPACKx3954d ago

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/... amazon uk ps4 is beating the xb1, http://www.amazon.com/gp/be... amazon us ps4 is beating xb1 aswell

HammadTheBeast3954d ago

Hey guess what. The Xbox One launch bundle hasn't sold out yet (number 3 still lol) while the launch PS4 has sold out, even after being restocked once.
Not to mention there have been tons of pre.orders for the other launch bundles, and those a dying down now as people wait for Gamescom and other launch bundles.

CGI-Quality3954d ago

Why can't you just answer the question. Why does the PS4 NEED all of its bundles at the top?

chrismichaels043953d ago

@MichaelLito - basic common sense. MS is only offering one option, the launch bundle. Sony already sold out their launch bundle weeks ago on Amazon. Demand for PS4 is so high, that Amazon had to open up 3 new bundles which offer different games. Some Sony gamers prefer the Killzone bundle. Others might prefer the Watchdogs bundle. So now what happens is the PS4 sales charts get spread out while Xbox gamers have no choice but to buy the same one available launch system with no other options.

The Xbox one launch console may have more sales than the PS4 bundles individually, but what happens when you add up all the PS4 bundle sales together? Now add to that the fact that Sony already sold out their launch system and that is how you get your answer. Still confused? Let me make it easy for you. The system that is in higher demand will have more options available to buy. I mean seriously, didn't they go over this in basic grade school math class?

jeffgoldwin3953d ago (Edited 3953d ago )

"I mean seriously, didn't they go over this in basic grade school math class?"

If your follow up your explanation with a childish insult, it makes more accurate. And plus you look a lot more classy and smart.

Gekko363953d ago

Sorry didn't do "Math" is primary school, I did "Maths".

However in response, in the UK it's pretty much an even playing field. People seem to be going for an upgrade to what they already have. PS3 to PS4 and XBOX 360 to XBOX One.

With both current consoles on an even playing field install-wise, it's not a stretch to see a similar outcome next gen. in order for PS4 to be a run away winning it would mean XBOX losing significant market share, and to do that would mean a huge gap in not so much specs but in features.

To be honest they both have their own strengths, ps4 slight edge on specs and xbox on motion, voice, etc.

However I remember the PS3 fan fair where the CELL processor was to become the de-facto processor of the world, since it was so powerful. But in the end you couldn't really tell the difference between ps3 and XBOX 360 and the cell died a death of deaths in the server market place.

Th fan fair here is similar so I'm not expecting a huge shift this time round despite Microsoft's negative press of late. You forget that Sony is just as much a twat in the business as Microsoft. Tit for tat as they say.

Automatic793953d ago

@chrismichaels04

I didn't know preorders let's us know who will sell the most consoles. I thought when the mass go out and actually buy the systems would let us know. Idk, maybe I'm wrong about what sells mean.

Currently at Bestbuy.com the PS4 and Xbox1 are 1 and 2 respectively in the pre order chart.

At Gamestop.com, both the individual Sku are sold out on both consoles

At Amazon.com, the Xbox 1 is #3 and the PS4 is #8. and for most wish for, the PS4 is #1 and the Xbox1 is #2.

So yea, both are going to sell out at the end of the year and both will be best sellers; claiming it otherwise will just make you guys look like fools

Stop following me around like a mindless troll. LOL

chrismichaels043952d ago

@michaelLito - so by your logic...pre-order sales have nothing to do with a products overall sales performance? Your excuses continue to amaze me. Also...you continue to show how clueless you are that you can't understand how Amazons simple sales charts work. Xbox One may be #3 this week, but overall for the entire year, PS4 is still the Amazons 2nd highest sellling videogame product of 2013, while Xbox One is all the way down at #8. Also, "wish lists" dont count for anything. Funny how you say pre-order charts dont prove anything, but "wish lists" do. LOL Once again, you continue to spread lies and misinformation on these forums. As long as you continue to make ignorant comments, the N4G community will continue to call you out on it and flood your comments with disagrees and as a result, you will continue to lose your bubbles.

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chrismichaels043953d ago

@CGI-Quality - don't even bother asking MichaelLito a question. He makes ridiculous and biased comments all the time and if you call him out on it, much like many N4G gamers are doing right here, he'll just ignore you and move on to make more biased comments in other articles. Most of his comments are filled with disagrees, yet he continues spreading misinformation and trying to pass off his opinions as facts.

Hicken3953d ago

Blatant ignorance should count as trolling.

You can't possibly be so dense as to not grasp this. I seriously don't think it's possible for this concept to be so difficult for you, and yet for you to be able to string together coherent sentences.

You, JokesOnYou, EVILDEAD... you guys have GOT to be trolling, because there's NO WAY you look at the overall trends, see how the launch bundle for the PS4 has sold out while the launch bundle for the XB1 has not, and yet STILL believe that the XB1 is ahead.

If you guys genuinely believe the things you say around here, then you're perfect examples of the type of stupidity that drives people to kill. Bubble me down for a personal attack or whatever, but at some point, this ridiculousness has got to stop.

All this misleading BS and straight up lies from these guys need to end. It's not funny, and it's worse than your average fanboy. For all the other crap that gets moderated around here, this stuff needs to be marked as spam or something.

I'm tired of seeing it, and I highly doubt I'm the only one.

MikeMyers3953d ago

Get your emotions in check buddy. This is videogames. If you feel they are spamming or trolling them mark it and move on. You are actually making things worse by acting in such a emotionally unstable manner where you need to get all excited and personally attack others because they don't share your passion for Sony.

Whether it's 10-1 in favor of the PS4 or 10-1 in favor of the Xbox One for sales at the end of the year should not give reason to have a breakdown. Enjoy your system, what they say should not have any impact whatsoever on your own enjoyment. Both systems look very good. Both systems will be fun to have. Both systems will bring joy to consumers, but for some odd reason we have individuals who have isolated themselves from being open-minded to other gamers and other platforms. They have grown up to become loyalists instead of gamers which to me is just a form of ignorance and immaturity. When you can only think of a company like Microsoft when talking about games like Forza 5 something is wrong with these people. I couldn't fathom ignoring Gran Turismo because it's on a Sony platform, same with Forza. I will never understand this mentality of it's either you're with us or against us attitude.

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DEEBO3954d ago

the ps4 is doing better but it also has more consoles to preorder.if you really want the x1 and you're waiting to reserve it.don't wait too long or you're going to be Sh.. out of luck.there is going to be a shortage.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-47m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 7h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken18h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 3h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 3h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 3h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 2h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 2h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 1h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 18h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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