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Are You Excited About Xbox One? Microsoft Fans Say 'No'

Tynan Muddle at Aussie-Gamer.com writes: "Microsoft seem to have shot themselves in the foot with a recent Facebook post asking fans if they're excited about the upcoming Xbox One console.

Over 4,200 people responded to the question "are you excited about Xbox One" with the overwhelming majority deciding, in many colourful ways, that they are not."

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jc485733989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

it's amazing. I want to see more people switch side, support nintendo, buy ps4, stay on pc, stick with good old 360, etc. By all means stay away from xboxone, unless you're one of those who enjoy being enslaved.

M-M3989d ago

I just want Microsoft fans to wake up and see what Microsoft's intentions truly are. If you love your system so much, why are you trying to support the bad features so much that will eventually make it fail?

jc485733989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

you won't believe how many dumbasses I've seen in real life. They do anything to support the "brand." One good example is Capcom fans. I mean, I'm simply asking them to realize what the Company is doing wrong, but you'll be amazed at how they respond with words like "but the game is good, I can do whatever I want with my money" or "I think it's worth the 50 dollars I spend on Resident Evil Revelations" and yadi yadi yadi ya. We keep telling them to answer with their wallets, but how many of them are doing so intelligently and consciously? Is it wrong to spend your money a little more wisely? companies should be paying us to use their brands btw.

Godmars2903989d ago

And the same has to be said about Sony should they get anywhere near what MS is trying to do.

Though at the very least I believe that when they say you don't have to be online all the time, they mean it.

NatureOfLogic3989d ago

I've come to simple conclusion that MS are using these tactics to control your NOW free physical content like they do with your digital content.

DeanSanchez3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Games have changed. ID-tagged players carry ID-tagged consoles,
use ID-tagged games. DRM inside their software enhance and regulate their playability...

Game control.. Information control..
Account control.. Retail control.

Everything is monitored, and kept under control.

Games.. have changed.

*who just read this in Old Snake's voice?*

Godmars2903989d ago

And now we know the real reason why MGS4 will never be on the Xbox...

BigPappaPump3989d ago

Dean, this bubble's on me for being funny =)

S2Killinit3989d ago

@Dean Sanchez
I laughed when I read your post lol gave you a bubble.

ABizzel13989d ago

@jc48573

I agree with you, my uncle is one of those people. We both sat and watched the same show, and saw all the BS, but he's still going to get an Xbox One. because he flat-out refuses to buy anything PlayStation and his only excuse is "I don't like PlayStation" which is beyond ignorant and does do it for me.

I secretly think he's upset that Sony came in and succeeded where the Sega Saturn failed, then killed Sega with the PS2. So instead of getting a PS2 the most popular gaming console of all time, he held out to get a Xbox, then went with 360, and even after seeing this mess he's still sticking with Xbox.

Some people are just stubborn, to borderline ignorance, but it's their money, let them wast it (even if it hurts you).

BeZdaBest3989d ago

that same quote can be thrown at any company..

"________ fans to wake up and see what __________ are"

sony.

.removal of BC..proceeds to sell hd ps2 games
.psn hack.. takes three month to acknowledge
.lauches controller wo/rumble "sez they cant" then not even a year later introduces dualshock 3
.starting to become like nintendo with specific ips..( god of war.. uncharted .. granturismo..sly cooper) ( not a problem as long as games are good)

*ps4
.removal of BC..proceeds to charge people via gaikai(need to be connected to the internet at all times just to play..ironic isnt it)
.heavy integration of social life.( im not a fan)

microsoft..

.charges alittle more for just about everthing.
.also has a BC problem
.kinect

x1..

.everything(as of right now)

NIntendo

.overall strange company ( not bad but weird)
.doesnt follow trends. (power trend i dont mind but lot of people do...)
.nintendo ips (more old then new ips.. once again not a problem as long as the games are good)

RiPPn3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Another thing, if you point out what a con job Xbox Live Gold is, 360 fans will call you poor, or cheap, they just love giving their money to Microsoft.

All you have to do is look how they treated the 360, they gave gamers what they wanted at first to get the 360 in peoples homes, then they screwed them over while catering to the casuals.

Why would anyone trust them not to do it again. I suspect they will show some great games at E3 to begin the trojan horse process all over again.

Lvl_up_gamer3989d ago

I am very excited for X1.

Day one buy for me

MikeyDucati13989d ago

It's the "Save Face" syndrome. We are all guilty of it when we don't want to be wrong. Still, I can't help but invoke my inner Nelson and say...

HA HA!

solidjun53989d ago

LMAO!! Dean, that was classic. +Bubbles

@LvL_Up_gamer: What a surprise. they could show you a cardboard box and you would still makes that statement.

liquidhalos3989d ago

Im a very, very disgruntled xbox fan. M$ has just said thank you very much for supporting us over the life of the 360, thank you for paying for live for all this time so you can maximize your gaming experience but you can fuck off now, we dont want or need you.

Im so disappointed, the stick we've had to put up with from ps fans regarding the consoles shortcomings, eg pay to play online and what not. And they were right, it turns out supporting an M$ console was the wrong choice.

We tolerated Live subscriptions, we scraped through the kinect fiasco and now M$ is done with us. People seem to have forgotten, its a games console, we want games with entertainment as an optional secondary function. I dont want a hyped up sky box cross wii. i want games, i want what ive always wanted from a games console, GAMES...

Sorry, its just upsetting. rant over :(

SHORYUKEN3988d ago

To all gamers.

If you are a gamer then you won't buy xbox one. Gamers are smart and they won't buy the ANTI CONSUMER box.

If you still buy the xbox one then you are not a gamer but a stupid Fanboy!

PiTCHBLaCK3988d ago

@ BeZdaBest

That Social media part on the PS4 is game related, and I use Youtube, FB and twitter very often. Works for me.

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miDnIghtEr20C_SfF3989d ago

@jc48573..... i can't wait to see if you change your tune when you find out that Sony is going to make you pay to play, and have their own version of what MS is doing. EA just didn't give up on season passes on sony's side just because.

It's coming.. and you Sony fans are going to see it's going to happen to you too. But oh well right.. because there's always the PC. LMAO.

SexyGamerDude3989d ago

Just because MS is doing it doesn't mean other companies will. By your logic, the WiiU should be charging us fees and forcing us to be connected. Why isn't Nintendo doing it?

kneon3989d ago

Sony does not require online for the PS4 which makes implementing any viable DRM impractical.

I'm not saying they won't do something that will piss people off, that's a possibility with any company, but DRM is not likely one of those things.

1lawrence3989d ago

thats like saying xbox 360 charges for u to play online so sony is going to do it. but they didnt so your logic is flawed

RiPPn3989d ago

If Sony pulls what Microsoft is doing, then I'm Wii U, Steam Box, Vita, and 3DS all the way. That's the beauty of choice, we don't have to put up with these tactics at all.

T23989d ago

Its sad how people actually try to defend well thought up arguments against a company's shady practice with "others will do it too"... and wish for the whole gaming industry to go down the toilet just so they can justify their argument or say "i told you so".... pathetic.

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slpknt6sic63989d ago

Microsoft didn't show anything that benefits gamers. They should rename the console to Xbox one out of Ten lol. all I saw was Tv and apps I don't want. we want games plain and simple. Its clear that Microsoft have games at the bottom of their list of priorities. to the blind fanboys saying games come at e3, why did they show multiplatform games then? it wasn't to surprise you at e3, it was because they are behind on development like reports earlier this year stated. how could they mess everything up when they had 7+ years to prepare for the new xbox. its inexcusable and I will NOT support them this gen. its sony and Nintendo for me this time.

DragonKnight3989d ago

How can anyone be excited about the Xbox One unless they are illiterate or lack any sense whatsoever? I mean, every day new information about the Xbox One comes out and NONE of it is good. Absolutely NONE of it. Like the new patent MS filed for the Kinect 2 which is a form of DRM that will make you pay extra money if more users than you registered on you console watch a movie or something. Microsoft really don't give a damn anymore. They are blatantly greedy and are trying to target the brain dead sheeple of the world.

Xbox One's Official Theme Song.

MikeMyers3989d ago

So on top of people being morons for buying Diablo III, everyone is now illiterate that may buy an Xbox One.

Thankfully we have you telling us all what we should and shouldn't buy. Why don't you just worry about your own purchases?

PiTCHBLaCK3988d ago

@ MikeMyers

Consider it from a concerned player, Get mad...at MS not DragonKnight.

NextGen24Gamer3989d ago

My bet would be that the ps4 outsells the Xbox One at first. But, once friends of friends start seeing the games in action and all the cool things the xbox one can do outside of gaming...the tables will turn and turn quickly. Its funny because I was thinking why would Microsoft make a console that was less powerful than the ps4. Microsoft has all the money in the world, all the tech in the world, and a huge user base. But the more and more I read about the cloud and the infrastructure that Microsoft has built with thousands and thousands of servers....It all makes sense now. The xbox one is 10 times more powerful than the xbox 360...you can stop there and I as a gamer am pleased with just that...but then you add in the cloud and it gives developers 3x the power of one Xbox One and BAM!!!! You have games that will be 30x that of the xbox 360 games. That blows my mind and it's future proof! It's not limited by the hardware....The crazy part is, MS could always add more and more servers in the cloud and take that 3x the power and make that 6x the power halfway through the xbox ones life cycle and the Ps4 wouldn't be able to keep up. But heres the catch...the only way that works, is if developers know that 90% of the xbox one owners are CONNECTED!!!!! With the ps4, even if they wanted to play catch up and start building servers and adding that into their development tools...they would need to assure developers that everyone who has purchased a ps4 is connected! Not going to happen...and they are way too far behind. Ms has been planning this for 7 years and have an unbelievable amount of servers powering their cloud. As a Gamer, I'm IN! If people don't want their console connected and play the most high tech games...keep playing on your xbox 360 or buy a ps4. In 5 years we will all wonder how we lived in an era where we weren't connected online anyway!

theBAWSE3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

.. And there goes your answer to.... ' what happens when you drink to much redbull listening to major nelson podcasts on repeat in your bedroom? '

T23989d ago

holy sht, there's delusional and then there's full on bat sht crazy. You must get a huuuge cut of every xbox sold. Congrats.

Aceman183988d ago

You know elite even if I saw one of my friends playing the "box" I still wouldn't buy it since its anti-consumer. If somehow Sony pulled the same stunt I wouldn't buy their system either.

As it stands right now the only two consoles I will be purchasing will be ps4 and wii u, but again if Sony goes anti-consumer I won't purchase console and just keep gaming on my ps3.

I love how here in America we have people complaining about not having enough money but are so willing to give away money so easily even though what's happening isn't in our best interest.

Also I already have a cable dvr box why would I want something that can't even do that right. Would also like to say this voice command crap will definitely be for the lazy Americans we have here lol.

PiTCHBLaCK3988d ago

@ Elite24Gamer

You're just trying to sell people Bullshit, Luckily some of us have common sense. I prefer options, not restrictions....The more I read about the XBO the pisser I get, and I'm not a XBOX fan but I am a Game fan.

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NewZealander3989d ago

so many idiotic comments being made about XBOX ONE on this site.

i think its crazy how people especially rabbid fanboys will go on a rampage and tear the competition to shreds, i think people need to take a step back and realize it is just a console, newly announced and there is still a lot we don't know about the product.

people need to quit all the chest puffing, we have seen some good ideas and not so good ideas, but this thing is still in its infancy, as is the ps4, ill wait and see what comes from E3, but for now im excited, so many negative people round here!

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IBleedXbox3989d ago

why not. the kinect is always on. listening and possibly seeing you. and it is an always online system since cloud requires online and the kinect

Hufandpuf3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Not technically. The system requires to be connected once every 24 or so hours just so it can operate. Still sucks but not AS bad as it's made out to be.

EDIT: Technically not, but I don't even care I'm not even getting the Xbox One.

IBleedXbox3989d ago

Once every 24 hours? Still always online

PiTCHBLaCK3988d ago

Actually some games will require an always connection according to some Articles. Also when youre online, playing MP or whatever the Kinect will always be looking at you....Kind of scary.

Majin-vegeta3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Every video i've seen so far of the xbox Juan,The top comments have someone saying their switching to another platform.Good job M$ keep it coming and let Sony and the other platforms reap in the rewards.

SexyGamerDude3989d ago

I know what you mean. I used to be a MS fan. It feels good to be on the dark side of the force.

Aquarhane3989d ago

I wanted Microsoft to prove all the rumors wrong, but when they gave us all of this, the want for another xbox console quickly died.

Jek_Porkins3989d ago

I'm a Microsoft fan and I'm excited, and I'm sure others will be too when some of these messy misunderstandings get cleared up, and some games being shown will do wonders too.

Now that it seems like used games are just like normal, I expect a lot of the hate to die down, we can get back to just being excited about the idea of that sexy new controller, dedicated servers, 15 exclusives over the first year and a ton of other great things on the horizon!

M-M3989d ago

This is one of the people I'm referring to.

duli143989d ago

He will bend right over for M$

Brazz3989d ago

Respect the guy, everyone is entitled to opinions and choices ... If he wants to continue with the xbox so be it.

militant073989d ago

Are you crazy, if you don't buy PS4 then you're consider animal, there is no right or wrong.
PS4 is out religion and life.

-Typical N4Ger

bluetoto3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

@brazz

"Respect the guy"

why, he doesn't even respect himself, so why should we?

@unicron

Sadly you are correct and it helps when your supporters are a bunch of braindead nimrods.

T23989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

People get so defensive on a simple debate too - hey you could go buy an AMC gremlin to drive around in too, but don't expect people to try and educate you on why you maybe should have thought it through a bit better.

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Unicron3989d ago

"some games being shown will do wonders too"

Sleight of hand baby. Show the people something shiny on the right while stomping on their rights on the left. Classic.

Why o why3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

You either have a strong PMA

Or you're an employee of ms.

Cant quite work it out but I'm kinda veering towards the latter....lol

I'm kinda excited as ms usually have a trick or 2 up their sneaky sleeves but e3 better be choca block full of games. If I hear tv tv tv tv again, I'm out

Oh you never seem to cuss.....suspicious

Gamer-Z3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

Lol Jek_Porkins i bet even if somehow the console sprouted legs and kicked you in the balls every day you would still support it.

Retroman3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

@ jek_porkins

one question: ARE YOU SERIOUS???? and you wonder why you have 13 disagree's

Jek_Porkins3989d ago

I'm on N4G, of course I'm going to get disagrees if I say anything positive about Microsoft. I believe a Facebook poll accurately represents how Microsoft fans feel about the next Xbox about as much as I'd believe a poll from N4G members about the next Xbox.

That isn't even journalism.

Retroman3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

@ jer

but you know X1 is a flop we gamers was wondering are you on drugs for making that useless comment.
im sure you are a MS fan but after reading soooooo many articles from here IGN,GAMESPOT so on of RROD,E74,DISK TRAY SUCK, game scratched and gamers saying they bought 3-8 360's why would anyone go through that all over again with X1?? im not saying ps3 /ps4 better but damn less problems i had with my 60gb ps3 bought mine back in 2007 she still humming.

BeZdaBest3989d ago

if you invested money on one platform for so many years(which im assuming by the way)i dont see why he shouldnt buy ONE.

honestly i like tech' and i liked the tech aspect of it.but if it really needs to watch me like sauron all i have to say is..

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

basically what im trying to say is.. "to each his own"

Pillsbury13989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

This guy likes to "stay on target". Even with all the restrictions and fees he still will support his Microsoft overlords.

ShwankyShpanky3989d ago

"Now that it seems like used games are just like normal"

Can you clarify that statement?

Unicron3989d ago

Theres a rumor going around that MS changed its stance already. Since its positive, its clearly now a fact.

http://www.polygon.com/2013...

Jek_Porkins3989d ago

Sure thing buddy :)

http://www.theverge.com/201...

Now yall can focus on hating the Xbox One for other reasons, acceptable reasons being:
They still charge for online! To which my reply will be, Xbox One will have dedicated servers for all their games! http://www.wired.com/gadget...

So on and so forth...

ShwankyShpanky3989d ago (Edited 3989d ago )

"according to sources familiar with the system."

"The ultimate system that Xbox One will use for used games and online authentication sounds like it is still in open debate on some level internally."

Yeah, I'd call that a rumor. The same article also says:

"authentication on the console's hard drive tied to the game is then verified regularly through an internet connection. When a person sells the game or it is installed and played on another system, the game is deauthenticated on the original machine until the disc is brought back and used to re-authenticate the installation."

So does that mean if you sell the game to GameStop (as an example) that you can still actually play the game until someone buys and installs it? Or does GameStop authenticate it to cancel your authentication? Or are you supposed to report the sale to MS? This is all very up in the air, so to say that it is "just like normal" is pretty disingenuous.

"They still charge for online! To which my reply will be, Xbox One will have dedicated servers for all their games!"

That Wired article doesn't explicitly state that dedicated servers for all games are a given, it says that's one of the potential applications of the cloud. It would be excellent if that ends up being the case, though.

I do like this prospect:

"multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32"

...but didn't Zipper already do 256 players three years ago with MAG (the "small" matches were 32v32)? The game sometimes seemed like just a proof-of-concept, but I found it fun while the community lasted.

"Now yall can focus on hating the Xbox One for other reasons, acceptable reasons being:"
-24hr periodic handshake
-mandatory spyware
-DRM restrictions still up in the air
-paying for online (use those dashboard ads to pay for dedicated servers)

PiTCHBLaCK3988d ago

Actually it says, "no fee to reactivate a used game" But what if your friend wanted to play it at his house? can he just Install it and play?

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RiPPn3989d ago

Microsoft is going to show you the games you want at E3 to get the box in your home and to keep you giving them money for Xbox Live Gold. Then just like the 360, they will stop focusing on games and hope 3rd parties carry them, all while trying to shove more casual crap down your throat.

I don't see how anyone can trust them going forward no matter what games they show or how they spin the negatives.

liquidhalos3989d ago

How many of these 15 exclusives dont rely on kinect?

Jek_Porkins3989d ago

How many Sony exclusives are going to be core? Do you think they'll still use Move? Or there camera that is a lot like Kinect?

The point is, we don't know. I hope since Kinect is with every console that they at least implement it as an option where it makes sense. Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 and Forza 4 show that as an option or addition, it works pretty well.

I'd venture to say of the 15, maybe 3-4 will be full Kinect, but certainly not Black Tusks game, the Remedy offering and the old school Rare project.

We wont know until after E3, but hopefully they offer some compelling games.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7217h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle4h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga3h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21832h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1016h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos5h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac5h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1014h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 13h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 11h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 8h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 1h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 3h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies23h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 11h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic21h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9020h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 12h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 12h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 9h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 11h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 11h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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