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Microsoft Responds: Xbox One's DRM, Always-Online, and Focus on TV/Games - Adam Sessler Interview

Before we left the Xbox campus at Microsoft, Adam Sessler got a chance to chat with Matt Booty, the General Manager of Redmond Games Studios to discuss the Xbox One -- and the public's reaction to it. Hear what he has to say about the DRM and used games situation, how the console connects to the internet, and why we didn't see a ton of games today.

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Donnieboi3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Okay confirmed. It's a DRM/Always Online console. Watch from 4:19 and watch.

He says only "some" game modes "might" be able to be played offline. It is heavily dependent on online. Don't get mad at me, watch the video.

cl19833991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Its up to each game developer to decide how much online the console is for their games, ie bungie destiny is pushing for constant connection, similar to wow. http://www.polygon.com/2013...

Donnieboi3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

That's not what he said in the video, though. He makes it seem as if offline play will be a rare thing. As if it will be a mode called "offline", they way that we have to have a specialized "multiplayer" mode now. He makes it seem as if it would have to be implemented somehow just so that one can play without needing the internet to check up on you every once in a while.

EDIT: @cl1983: I don't know what else to tell u bro. The guy in the video confirmed it. LOT's of things have been going arounf the internet, many of which were actually STARTED by microsoft themselves. There's so much confusion because of their flip-flopping. But if the guy in the video says it's always-online--then dude, why would he tell such a self-damning lie? MS benefitted from lying and saying it wasn't a DRM console, but NOW I believe this video more because admitting to having a DRM console is not the kind of thing that microsoft would make up just to garner more support. If anything, more people will hate the system. So, if he said it, even though it was not in his favor to say so, then I gotta believe that it's just a painful truth that MS had to finally admit despite the fact that it's unpleasant news.

cl19833991d ago

@Donnie it was said in some of the interviews with others http://www.polygon.com/2013... "While an "Always On" function isn't a requirement, a connection is still necessary for streaming and accessing multiplayer through the new console.

"Gamers can calm down," said Microsoft's Don Mattrick during today's event, "we got you covered."

However, Xbox One will offer game developers the ability to use its Azure cloud computing service throughout development, according to Wired. This way developers can rely on the cloud — as opposed to the Xbox One hardware — when necessary. Doing so would indeed result in the need for an online connection."

Snookies123991d ago

@cl1983 - "Gamers can calm down, we got you covered."

If that were the case, they would have focused more on gaming at their event. :\

I still await E3 for a final decision on the console, but things are not looking that great for MS right now.

LackTrue4K3991d ago

what is all this mambo jumbo with Microsoft?!

"CANT THEY JUST SAY, ITS DOSENT HAVE TO BE ONLINE....IT CAN BE THAT HARD!!!"

there just full of it...in my eyes, it is what it is.

Hydrolex3991d ago

Hey Microsoft, goodluck !

People who have tried forcing people to do what they want have always failed if you look at the history... you want to force people to be online all times ? Well we will see your sale numbers

Thanks god there is SONY !

theBAWSE3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Wow..... So it's true no game lending... It needs to be online and that is microsofts way of checking game licenses incase gamers try to get around the no game lending by thinking just play it offline... No game can be played offline until it's been checked online first... The whole landscape has just become that much clearer

Privacy issues... Kinect is always listening

Who the hell would buy this..

thechosenone3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Even when you have a rep from MS saying that you need a persistent internet connection to be able to play your games some people *cough*cl1983*cough* still can't accept it. Amazing.

Cupid_Viper_33991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

The sheer amount of Sh1t that they got wrong with this console is simply unbelievable.

It's as if when they were researching for the console, the board sat down with a "HOW-DO-WE-FCUK-UP" list and sratch them off one by one. And then the director of the board got pissed as they simply could not come up with enough Fcuk ups. So they went out and scouted the world for people with Doctorates in Fuckupeneering and hired the very best.

Here's a list of things that are just mind boggling.

1. It requires an internet connection
2. No used games
3. Controllers still require batteries, in 2013
4. It does not support ANY current Gen Gaming Headphones.....
5. Kinect is required at all times
5. Knect is always listening and awaiting commands
6. Microsot got in trouble for spying on Skype users http://www.globalpost.com/d...
7. TV, TV, TV, TV, Sports, Sports, TV, Television, Call of Duty....TV TV...Dog. Fish move out the way...

longcat3991d ago

^^^^
rage all you want but keep the dog out of this
#collarduty

Freak of Nature3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Hey XBONE.... Do you or don't you, have to be online....?

XBONE response:.....
In the absence of any internet connection, you're going to be able to play blu-ray movies, and there are... **"likely"**... to be ...**"some games modes"**... that you'll be able to continue to play. But again, the XBox One was really designed to take advantage of the modern era where people have got high speed internet...

Key words... **"likely"**... to be ...**"some games modes"**...

A original and 360 owner here aswell as PS1,PS2 and PS3 owner here, so as neutral as they come...But thus far, a total clusterfu*K of a start for Xbox 1........

andibandit3991d ago

@Donnieboi

"That's not what he said in the video, though. He makes it seem as if offline play will be a rare thing. "

Im pretty sure it's because they are pushing their Cloud services as much as they can. Apparently the Xbox1 cant draw 2 polygons without having to send the calculations into the cloud.

Why o why3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

That guy demonstrating the voice features seems like he had a device in his left pocket. The timing of his hand in his pocket was way too suspicious. Is this just more smoke and mirrors. Smh

"Transformers, cable boxes in disguise"

GribbleGrunger3991d ago

'Gaming is included'

Gee ... thanks.

gaffyh3991d ago

MS is like a charging bull right now, not listening to their fans at all, and if they continue on this path, I hope they charge right off a cliff. I never thought I would be saying it, but the WiiU looks incredibly good right now. Iwata and Kaz must be laughing their asses off.

loulou3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

i know this is n4g, where reality is warped and twisted. but do you lot honestly think that microsoft have took the decision unilaterally??? if you do, then you are stupid. and no amount of disagrees will change the outcome.

is it not obvious now why nintendo is seeing no 3rd party supoort?

and just say that sony does decide against this. what then, are they going to risk the wrath of all the major publishers?? who have undoubtably lobbied hard for this.

think about it.

sony also complicit as to what is going to happen next gen. what did sony say "they will leave it upto the publisher/dev.. there's your answer right there folks. publishers have got what they wanted... e3 will be telling

i posted this yesterday

Freedomland3991d ago

@loulou

"SUPOORT" Yes, I know what you mean here.
#Xboxgohome

BISHOP-BRASIL3990d ago

Adam Sessler... What a tool! The guy should just had plainly asked: "if you don't have a connection at all, if there's no internet where you live, can you still play games on Xbox One?" That alone could answer the always connected concerns much better than this whole phylosophical bullcrap about what is always online or how often online and how much offiline can you really go...

Look at this whole comment session, people simply still don't know how it's going to work, which means the journalist's mission to inform us had failed. But that's gaming journalism today, they love to answer questions with another question, or answer in a way to give raise to even more questions, nothing is definitive, gotta keep gamer fellas clicking on my site so ad revenue stays high.

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Conan-O-Brady3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

"In the absence of an internet connection you'll be able to play blu-ray movies and they're likely gonna be some game modes you can continue to play."
What does he mean by that last bit? Either you can or can't play offline....why is it never black and white? Always a fuzzy gray answer....Thank god Adam was able to get him to answer all of our questions....lol

Donnieboi3991d ago

^ This. Now let's all stop making up excuses. it is a confirmed always-on console, that has to go out of it's way just to allow us to "enjoy" a few brief moments offline, until we need to do another mandatory online certification check just to keep playing. Sounds like gaming-prison.

xPhearR3dx3991d ago

Well, to be honest, if you're purchasing an Xbox you're planning on being always online anyway. You bet your ass if I'm paying $60 a year I'm going to use to the fullest. I don't know many gamers this gen who bought a 360 for offline use.

Objective3991d ago

Seems to me like you and your ilk are deliberately construing what is said in clear terms to be somehow still unclear. Or it could be plain inability to comprehend. Or a pre-pubescent disposition at trying to be clever or difficult.

He has said the Xbox One is designed to take advantage of the modern technologies that internet has to offer but there will still be games modes you can continue to play without internet connection. That pretty much means it is up to the game developers how they wish their games to be played - if they want game modes that do not require internet connection, it can be done.

Exactly what your PS4 will likely be doing.

RM-TatoTiburon3991d ago

"In the absence of an internet connection you'll be able to play blu-ray movies and they're likely gonna be some game modes you can continue to play....OFFLINE"

Those modes likely will be the campaign mode that you can play it offline

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dedicatedtogamers3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

EDIT added links

Something I saw in the news:

Microsoft got in trouble for spying on Skype conversations (MS owns Skype).

Am...I the only one who is disturbed to the core by that? Xbox One has Skype built in. Kinect 2.0 is "always listening" according to MS so that you can turn it on remotely with voice command.

http://techiecode.wordpress...
http://www.globalpost.com/d...

Donnieboi3991d ago

Yeah it was creepy how he said it's always waiting for u to make a command into it. Just freaky.

Count3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

What's funny is that you think MS is the only one.

Testfire3991d ago

At count, he never said MS was the only one did he? No he didn't. Difference between Xboxone and other devices. I can unplug my webcam and my pc will still have full functionality. I can disconnect my PSeye and still have full functionality. IF you unplug Kinect on Xboxone, you basically just crippled the system and can't do anything. It needs to be connected for the Xboxone to work. I don't want MS or the govt spying on me and my family. It's not cool, and it's not right.

DragonKnight3991d ago

@Count: MS is the only gaming console developer that's doing it.

Beyond that, what evidence do you have to come to the conclusion that the other posters believe that MS is the only one that violates privacy in this manner?

M-M3991d ago

@Count, I'm sick of your constant trolling on here. We all know that they aren't the only one that does things like this, websites and applications have access to a lot of information that we don't even know they can see. Thing is, is that when you have a service like this combined with a camera like Kinect that has to always be online and can always hear you, is a big issue.

Bathyj3991d ago

Bookmark this post.
This is where Skynet starts.

Of course when it happens we wont have computers to come back to and check, but I'll be smug knowing I was right.

imahustla193991d ago

someone mentioned that a few comments ago but i agree, a company that has been known to spy will be having a microphone & camera in house's is a bad idea. could you imagine smoking a blunt and the cops kicking in your door saying its all on tape on your xbox one.definitely not in my future.

Pl4sm43991d ago

Overly attached Kinnect .. noooooooooooooooooooooooooo

B1663r3991d ago

You mis-spelled $kype...

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AngelicIceDiamond3991d ago

The Xbox One has to be the sloppiest reveal in gaming history.

M-M3991d ago

I still can't get over how corny the Skype video call was, I laughed at it because of how bad it was.

denawayne3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Mark my words right now. You WILL be able to play games offline on Xbox One. That is, if the game has an offline mode. Some developers will elect to use the cloud which forces you to go online. The offline game will not download onto your hard drive. It will play from the disk. No License will be attached to your profile BUT stuff like achievements, updates, multiplayer, etc will not be accessible. Basically the way it's done now on the 360. The minute that particular disk is taken online for online required gameplay, it will attach itself to that profile until it is transferred to to next online profile. Only one online profile can play that license at a time. You want to play offline? hell, take it and play it on as many offline Xbox Ones as you want as long as you don't take it online. Once again, mark my words on this.

Edit: I also believe there will also be some sort of "lending" system. If I want to lend the game to a friend, I will go on my console (or theirs), sign into my profile, elect to "lend" the game to said friend, which will give them access to play the game but will make it so I can't play the game anymore until they "lend" it back. Once again, only one online profile can play that license at a time.

theBAWSE3991d ago

@denawayne Hmmm do Ibelieve a deluded fanboy or phil Harrison and now this video?

Rainstorm813991d ago

Do u have a link to back up any of this? Because MS top execs have been saying otherwise.

....and Remember gut feelings and wishful thinking doesn't count

Raccoon3991d ago

This ignorance is why xbots get raped with fee's, because they always find a way to justify their demise.... I mean did you even watch the interview? Do you speak English? 5 billion transitors? rocket science level stuff?

gano3991d ago

This is the fight people.
The ones who justify, even after the reps, and
workers admit it.
wow.

amiga-man3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

denawayne
Edit: I also believe there will also be some sort of "lending" system. If I want to lend the game to a friend, I will go on my console (or theirs), sign into my profile, elect to "lend" the game to said friend, which will give them access to play the game but will make it so I can't play the game anymore until they "lend" it back. Once again, only one online profile can play that license at a time.

Do you even listen to yourself, why in the world would gamers want that? your not only giving M$ control over things they have no right messing with but also making excuses for it some people really are blind to the damage M$ and it's greed is doing to gaming wake up for gods sake.

imahustla193991d ago

so then those single player games aren't going to look very good. microsoft already said they would use the cloud to help developers. no online means no help from the cloud which means crappy looking games.

memots3991d ago

So regardless, you still need online connection.

You cannot go and buy a game and play at all if you do not at some point have a connection. So its basically requires online at all time to use the device.

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Maddens Raiders3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Let the bodies hit the floor. Microsoft's gaming division spent countless hours approving this garbage? These people are what's wrong with gaming today and why crap gets dumbed down just to fit into their money grabbing paradigm.. Personally I'm sick of it.

Samsung Galaxy SIII

Legion3991d ago

So where is the confirmation of DRM/Always online?

He says "So in the absence of any internet connections you are going to be able to play Bluray movies and there are likely going to be some game modes that you are going to be able to continue to play."

And this was in answer to the question of a game that is purely single player based.

MrMister3991d ago

@Legion

Are you serious?! What more do you need to hear? Wow...

colonel1793991d ago

OK, say you don't have to be always online. However, in order to begin playing a game you must be online because the Xbox links the game to your profile. If you are NOT online, then you won't be able to play a game. .

AFTER you link your game to your profile, THEN you will be able to play offline, IF they actually allow that (which that part is not very clear yet).

Legion3991d ago

@colonel179

The point is none of it is very clear and it all is a speculative mess right now.

I am sure MS is on the wall on which direction they will take heir move? Not having fully jumped into the 'we are doing this' stage yet. just giving out feelers to people saying... this is what we expect from the system.

They still have an option to not have any required connection at all in the end. But we won't know for sure until it gets closer.

And for sure nothing is confirmed here. Not until MS says... "this is what we are doing and this is what is going to happen".

cee7733991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Here's A nice treat guys this video is so epic

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Xbox one ftw lol

InTheLab3991d ago

The boxer at the end punching himself in the face is the Xbox One reveal in a nutshell...

showtimefolks3991d ago

E3 get here because till than all these rumors, speculation, and they said this or that in that interview

Come clean at E3 and get his mess over with

CalvinKlein3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

I would hate to work for MS and have to explain all the dumb shit they do. They constantly do things in order to try and milk more money from the customers they already have and alot of these things probably cost them new/repeat customers.

For instance Make xbox live free, possible offer a better teir paid that gives you something(some media functions, could include TV shows, netflix, movies, games, ms points, DIGITAL GAME RENTAL etc, and no adds) to get some money still from subs. Put up more adds with the free one. Get more xbox buyers, more money spent on games/MS pts, more xboxs connected to the Internet(big one there) and get more money for showing adds on xbox live free then subs could ever bring in when less than half the xbox owners are paying for gold currently(more adds and more people seeing them means more money for showing adds)

but no, instead they worry about taht extra 50$ per year instead of realizing how to add value for customers and still make more money then they do with subscriptions.

Now they will probably loose half their customers from last gen, maybe more. Last generation seems to have made console makers forget how hard it can be to sell a console. Wiiu and vita are learning now. Sony learned with the ps3 that success isnt guaranteed based on last gens results, and it shows with the ps4. MS will learn this gen for sure, but I doubt they will be making an xbox 2 after this failure we are about to see.

colonel1793991d ago

If every game has to be linked to your profile for sure it has to be online to be able to play it.

Microsoft is acting as is everyone has the same internet technology that they have at their campus or in the best parts of Japan. If they really want to sell this console worldwide they need to figure something out. There are a lot of countries that have very bad internet or no internet at all, and if they don't allow people to even play an offline game (because it has to install and be linked to profile first) they will fail miserably.

They are being completely delusional.

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scofios3991d ago

Why is every one surprised they did that with arcade games on the 360 you can only play them on the account who purchased them .
The difference Now is they want it on Retail games too.

stloony3991d ago

Last I checked, you still cannot buy a used arcade game but if you are really lucky and look hard enough, you just might find a store, or maybe even an individual in which you can purchase or borrow a copy of a retail game.

And I'm sorry if I have confused you with simple logic; it can have quite an impact on those unfamiliar with it.

N4Flamers3990d ago

@stloony

I hate to point this out but you can buy used arcade games. I bought limbo, splosion man, and trials mx used at gamestop.

Studio-YaMi3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

6:23 to 6:28

"maybe a little of stretch to say but this maybe the last console that you'll ever need to buy"

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN !?
are they going to make this Xbox One a PC ? upgradable ???

This doesn't make ANY sense ! :|

Nicxel3990d ago

If you take a look at interviews about this subject, you will find that in an X amount of years, ALMOST everything the xbox processes in terms of graphics/rendering for example, will be done via Cloud. I don't remember all of the tech talk right now, but the potential for gaming will constantly increase without reaching a limit since its not limited to the tech inside of the box. Where as the xbox360/ps3/ps4(maybe ps4) will hit/eventually hit its limit. so the ps4 may have better specs than the xboxONE, but the ps4 will eventual hit a wall (will need to come out with a ps5 now) while the xboxONE, when it hits its wall, will just use Microsoft's Cloud to continue to exponentially grow.

just look up interviews on the matter. it's been talked about now for a few years and this was their answer. its too costly to manufacture new hardware every X amount of years, so they had to eventually come up with an idea where they can advance gaming/entertainment via the internet/software without making tons of Xboxs or hardware.

Morgue3991d ago

" You don't need a space heater in your living room "

Prcko3991d ago

ps4 decision is here,good

NewZealander3990d ago

why do people act like always online is a bad thing? in this age everything is online dependant, my phone is always online, my 360 is always online, the second MS says the new console needs to be online they get lynched.

if yall are so scared of new technology then go live under a rock or whatever.

the DRM thing sucks tho, i hope they tweek it to be a bit more user friendly.

NextGen24Gamer3990d ago

It makes me laugh when the same sony fanboys that scream and yell about how the ps4 will have better graphics than the xbox one..(which tells me you have the proper 1080p HD Tv to get the most out of your console)..but yet you complain about internet? Who doesn't have internet in this day an age but has a 1080p tv? All gadgets...use wi fi in this day an age. Everyone on this site uses internet connections...But yet you complain that the tech has advanced to a point that it would prefer to be connected at all times. What are you dinasaurs afraid of....Mark my words...in 5 years...everyone will wonder how anyone can NOT BE CONNECTED. I actually feel that way right now....but....some of you dinasaurs will get to that point. Thank you Microsoft for pushing technology and advancing the gaming and entertainment industry instead of giving us more of the same. The way some of you think, we would still have wired phones and tape recorders. LOL....

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swansong3991d ago

Microsoft is controlled by our government,which wants to keep an eye on you. The Obama administration has told microsoft to implement a way that the government can spy on you inside your own home. LOL!

Virtual_Reality3991d ago

*Puts dramatic music in the background*

jacksheen00003991d ago

@ swansong

Agreed, Microsoft is controlled by our government.

BTW, I said the same things on a comment hours ago and got disagreed for it.

good post!

Rainstorm813991d ago

If thats what you believe....Here's an easy solution..............don' t buy MS products.......simple

003991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Ms is clearly trying their hardest to have people not spend money on the xbox One piece of shit.

how monumentally stupid of them, this is going to crash and burn.

NameRemoved00173991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Microsoft: Call of Duty: Ghost

Sony: We have that too and our console runs it better on our superior hardware, but that is besides the point because we have actually good games like Killzone, Gran Turismo and God of War.

The PS4 and PC look like the only viable options for gaming as of right now.

Legion3991d ago

Funny... Sony said the same thing about the other CoD games... and still the Xbox 360 ran the CoD games better. Shocker.

NameRemoved00173991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

The One's specs are equal to or worse than the ps4 and they are both x86. I have no doubt that games will run smoother and look better on the PS4.

stragomccloud3991d ago

Too bad Sony seems to be taking the Microsoft approach to used games with their next console. Still, at least they have good games!

denawayne3991d ago

Wait till Sony announces a similar plan.....

Beahmscream3991d ago

If it does, I will have no choice but to abandon console gaming.

003991d ago

Sony has a massive advantage now, they would be retarded to follow in MS footsteps.

denawayne3991d ago

MS has the potential to make a lot of money by going this route. Do you really think Sony is going to pass up that opportunity too?

M-M3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

@denawayne

You say it like Sony fans would praise it even if they had a similar plan. If the tables were turned and Sony was doing what Microsoft is doing and Microsoft is doing what Sony is doing right now, I would go with Microsoft.

Soldierone3991d ago

@denawayne

Sony has an opportunity too. If they are the "saving grace" to this, then guess what? Everyone flocks over to them. They sell more, and get a lot of their fans back, while MS milks the few that stick to them.

Narutone663991d ago

Will MS still make money if no one is buying their product?

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NameRemoved00173991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Its cool to put the TV features on it and all for some people but don't shove it down my throat like I need it and make it the focus of the console.

nigelp5203991d ago

Im getting a Wii U and PS4 this fall. I dont want tooo much restrictions to play a flipping game

Sky_Walker3991d ago (Edited 3991d ago )

Wii U? Something about that names just does not sound right for a 27 year old like me to be saying SMH.

nigelp5203991d ago

The specs are shit but as logn as it has good games and not restricted the wii is gonna have to do lol

live2play3990d ago

oh yea and SKY-WALKER is soooo grown up....
idiot

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18817h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga7h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan3h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus232h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10110h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 19h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 14h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 7h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 9h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 5h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 2h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 18h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 18h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 15h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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