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Could Skype Be The Killer App For Microsoft's Next Xbox?

Forbes - As we look ahead to Microsoft announcement of its next Xbox, there’s as much attention being paid to non-gaming uses as there is to actual games. That’s good and bad — while broader appeal is always nice, this is a games console and it needs to attract gamers. The notion of a TV tuner has gotten a lot of press, but there’s one other app that could prove crucial to marketing and selling the next Xbox: ubiquitous videochat client Skype. For one thing, you don’t buy a company for $8.5 billion and then not enable it on a new piece of hardware.

iGAM3R-VIII4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

I disagree 100%. How can it, it is an entertainment app on a GAMING console. It may be a plus to the console BUT I doubt that Skype would be the killer app

GalacticEmpire4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

Chances are it'll be on PS4 too or just one of the MANY other video apps out there. PS3 even has video chat right now, how could Skype possibly be a killer app for Xbox 3?

matrixman924018d ago

Microsoft bought Skype...so no it wont be on ps4

OC_MurphysLaw4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

Given MS now owns Skype...I doubt you will see an actual app for it on the PS4. I think the reason people are saying it could be a killer app for the next xbox is that its widely rumored that skype will be integrated into Xbox Live voice chat so when on the xbox you will be on skype not needing to run it as a secondary app.

@Yo Mama... Sony does not "own" blu ray. They are part of the Blu Ray Consortium which licenses out the tech.

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Yo Mama4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

@matrixman92

Sony owns Blu-Ray so it won't be in the next Xbox..... See how that works?

But on a serious note, I fail to see how an app that's on virtually every Tv, phone and Blu-ray player can be a killer app.

JBSleek4018d ago

@ Yo Mama

Sony doesn't own blu ray or should I say isn't the sole owner in it.

jimbobwahey4018d ago

@matrixman92

You do raise a valid point however I think Skype is available on the Vita? I'm not 100% certain though, and have no idea if Sony integrated it before the Microsoft buyout.

I wouldn't say there's 0% chance of Skype being on PS4, but at the same time it is highly unlikely. I guess it depends on if Microsoft decides they want to boast exclusivity of the feature or try and make some money off Sony for letting them use it.

I've no doubt though that Microsoft will go crazy with the social features of the next Xbox, but I think Sony have probably left plenty of free memory of the OS available for integrating any features they're missing via patches. I recall Eurogamer mentioning that Sony reserved 1GB ram for OS functions.

MysticStrummer4018d ago

@Diacy - So if it's integrated into XBL will it be replacing regular cross game chat? Obviously there's a video aspect to it as well, but won't that impact system resources?

Yo Mama4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

@Dlacy13g

Sony was the main driving force in developing Blu-ray. Just because corporations have joined the board doesn't mean they own it. Apple is listed, but tell me if you have ever heard of them using Blu-ray in one of their macbooks? No.

All I'm saying is that just because MS now owns Skype, doesn't mean they won't license it out to Sony...just as it doesn't mean Sony wouldn't not license out Blu-ray to MS.

OC_MurphysLaw4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

@MysticStrummer that is part of the excitement if you ask me. Supposedly MS has upwards of 3GB of RAM set aside for OS. If that is true this new machine should be able to handle Skype running in the background easily and video too. Again all speculation... but the rumors of skype replacing the current game chat have been very strong for some time. It really makes sense when you realize MS owns skype and that they want this connected eco system between phones, tablets, pc's and the xbox. Skype would easily connect all those platforms together effortlessly.

@Yo Mama, you raise a very fair point about licensing out skype. Certainly MS allowed Skype to go to the Vita even though they had bought Skype on May 10, 2011 and the Vita didn't launch until December 17, 2011. They certainly could have tried to fight it but chose not to.

link to info on the Blu Ray Association/consortium: http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

Sitdown4018d ago

@GalacticEmpire

I know people don't usually click and read the article, but Geeeeeeeeez, you don't even read the little summary.

sprinterboy4018d ago

Agreed, I have never used or even no anyone who has used there PS3 video chat to call mum or grandma, dont get me wrong used the video chat for people I met in home but calling grandma to say night will not take off, skype as a service sure will add to the MS features though for those who might want to use it for gaming.

MysticStrummer4018d ago

@Diacy - How it impacts the OS wouldn't be much of a concern to me. How it impacts games would be. Thanks for the answer though. It was an honest question.

shoddy4018d ago

There are so many other ways to video chat.

CEOSteveBallmer4017d ago

Duhh to these people ranting about skype on xbox, The vita has skype in it. What can you guys say about that??

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Knight_Crawler4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

I was wondering when this would eventually happen. Skype seems like a no brainer....I have Skype on my tablet, my desktop, my phone....And Yes, I wouldn't mind being able to Skype on my Kinect. It would be great to have your whole family in front of the Tv talking to Relatives...if you don't like it don't use it

Edit: Having the ability to use Skype on the NextBox does not take away any other abilities from the NextBox. Its not like they had to remove the ability to play games because they've added Skype instead. People should be seeing this as a good thing, Party chat, which is heavily praised and seemingly sorely missed on the PS3 side, is now possible between different games, and different systems/devices.

This will probably be the new voice chat, replacing what XBOX uses now. Now its going to be ridiculously easy to talk to people on different platforms, and even make calls (but who does that anymore). Skype is also integrated with Facebook, so you can easily send messages to anyone you want without putting down your controller - this will actually be so useful.

Bigpappy4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

Yeah Knight. Lots of people see Skype as video chat. But you don't need 'video on' to use Skype. it is also good for calling up friends on other devices when they are out and about.

Having this on the next Xbox would be a major plus on the next Xbox. I use it daily right now to talk to friends across the world even when out shopping. This keeps the phone bill out of the picture.

Sorry Belking. One of those disagrees is mine. I didn't notice the quotes. Yeah, I use the metro version of skype in Win8 all the time. It works great for sending photo's, making calls, chatting, video chatting... I just let it run in the background while I do something else on the PC. Very nice actually.

MikeMyers4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

Just like cross-game voice chat being a feature some like I imagine some may like this too. Same with the share button on the PS4. This is all to create a more social experience. We now live in a world where most devices that can access the internet now have Facebook. Skype also serves to millions and millions of customers.

Killer app? Not really, but it could be a complimentary feature many will enjoy having.

dcbronco4018d ago

Skype being a killer app may be going overboard but it would be another feature that pushes Xboxes. If you could call people on their phones, home and cell, through your gamertag and too their gamertag. Also if the new Xbox really can be a cablebox, having Skype video chat makes it far more likely Grandma orders a Xbox cablebox as opposed to a Motorola box. She may never play a game, but Grandmas are usually loose with the wallet when the kids come over and the kids might order games and movies.

rainslacker4018d ago

What's even cooler is that you could use Skype on your Xbox to video/voice/text chat with people playing on their PC, smart devices, Vita and PSP(yes, it's available on both of these, even support pages for it on the Skype website), and hopefully PS4.:) Now we'll have cross console chat, and be able to leave this silly argument over cross-game chat behind.

Seriously though, some of your assumptions are possible, and integration into Xbox live is very likely, given that Skype now replaces Windows Messenger.

As far as killer app(which isn't what you suggested), I think it's just an added feature for the convenience of the user. I doubt it will make or break the system either way.

Overall MS has a lot invested into Skype, and has bigger ambitions with it than just using it for Xbox communication. Some of the other commenters on this thread would be wise to remember that.

GribbleGrunger4017d ago (Edited 4017d ago )

You guys have got to remember that Gaikai is designed to stream 'anything'. You can clearly see that you can stream video while someone is playing a game (even connect to help them), so it's not much of a jump to suggest they'll be a setting for just video chat too.

And Gaikai can be installed on any device (within reason) so Skype has NO advantage there either.

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chrismichaels044018d ago

People forget Sony already has a Skype app on the Vita. Anyway, back to topic....no, Skype is not a killer app. A killer app is a must have exclusive game that cant be played anywhere else, not a free social app that is available on everyones phones, PCs and tablets.

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4018d ago

lol u think MS cares for games? lmao

cee7734018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

panasonic and sony are the majority owners of blu ray lens and disk patents thats where it counts not the Blu Ray association.

Panasonic owns most patents for Blu Ray lens, players etc.

While sony owns most for Blu Ray Discs

Meaning if 720 were to have Blu Ray Playback panasony will receive royalties off every 720 sold and if the games are on Blu Ray same scenario

Why do you guys think sony was willing to lose so much money on Ps3 with Blu Ray I mean sure there are many owners of Blu Ray But panasony benefits most from it (because they own most of the patents) every blu ray player, disc etc Panasony takes in A nice chunk of the Royalties.

Just as anything wifi enabled motorola Takes in A huge chunk of the Royalties because they own most of the Patents.

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MariaHelFutura4018d ago

I remember when Killer Apps were games.

greenpowerz4018d ago

Yeah like back in the day when Cellhpones were huge blocks and only barely made calls :P

Williamson4018d ago (Edited 4018d ago )

Isnt skype on the vita as well? Games make the consoles while apps are usually secondary to it.

metsgaming4018d ago

yes its on vita, and i dont see anyone saying its a killer app.

Reborn4018d ago

Skype would probably be welcomed, but killer app? I'd use that term for something that greatly enhances/improves the quality of game delivery.

DA_SHREDDER4018d ago

All I know is Windows 8 skype sucks a huge one. Cant record, can't even figure out how to pay for the friggin premium?!

Belking4018d ago

"All I know is Windows 8 skype sucks a huge one."

Not mine. It works fine and it's all good...lol

OC_MurphysLaw4018d ago

Skype works fine on Windows 8 ...UNLESS you use a recording program like Pamela, etc... Most of those external programs have not updated for Windows 8 and thus in order to use Skype and record you need to use the desktop Windows 7 version of Skype and access it via desktop view and not the tile hub.

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk772h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

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More Job Losses At Xbox, “There’s More To Come”: Paul Thurrott

Paul Thurrott in a recent episode commented on the on-going Microsoft fiasco hinting at more job losses and that "there's more to come".

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Sonic18812d ago (Edited 2d ago )

There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future . Xbox has to pay Microsoft back. It might take two decades to do that.

sagapo1d 23h ago (Edited 1d 23h ago )

I don’t understand what you’re saying. Xbox IS microsoft so there’s no “paying back “.
And MS gross profit in 2023 was over 140 billion dollars so forget your 2 decades.

Unless you mean the money MS invested in Xbox (acquisitions included) and the time it will take for xbox as a brand to gain that money back on it’s own, then yeah, that could take a while.

romulus231d 17h ago

The better term to use might be return on investment, xbox is simply a division of Microsoft one that MS can easily do away with if profit margins are not met. So in that regard he's right, if xbox isn't showing the expected return on investment the higher ups are expecting than it's unlikely Microsoft will acquire any other studios any time soon, especially if they are spending billions buying developers just to shut them down in the end.

MrBaskerville1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 10h ago )

Xbox is a division that they discussed shutting down but doubled down on after Gamepass was pitched.

It needs to make money at some point. Big money.

KwietStorm_BLM1d 9h ago

So you do understand it or..?

rokos1d 7h ago

According to Statista the net income of Microsoft is about $72.4 billion dollars which is a bit lower than last year profit. That is almost as much as Activision's acquisition but I assume that would be a one off since it costs so much plus I see how their focus has been shifted to AI, thus any major future investments will probably be in that area.

Markusb331d 7h ago

i think you are really missing the point

VariantAEC21h ago

@romulus23
That is not why MS buys studios. They might continue to buy because it's about taking that sweet sweet IP out of the corporate husks of their acquisitions.

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SonyStyled1d 23h ago

“There won't be no more acquiring game publishers from Microsoft in the future”

No bro, there do be is for Microsoft not acquiring for what is now if not what it be is 😂

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ChasterMies1d 11h ago

Xbox isn’t a separate company from Microsoft. It’s all Microsoft.

Abear211d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

Let’s be real, this is the media spinning all the acquisitions and liquidations of said developers and spinning it to make M$ the villain.

This was bound to happen, a bigger slice of pie and cut costs, when the games come they stand to make more and that’s their agenda—it was the writing on the wall when the sales went through and legally all those who approved the sale and mergers knew this would happen.

Snowflakes need to realize business is ugly and you can cry all you want but this is how capitalism works. And it works.

That said, M$ needs to steer the narrative and grab hold of all this, make their plans known, hype the hell out of all those dead IP’s they plan to revive, and be honest about the timeline. This is likely to involve mobile and IP on other consoles, and most people realize that.

The problem is this company is incapable of being transparent and seems to often want to dissuade and confuse is customer base. The lack of E3 has hurt Microsoft and I don’t think they know how to properly or effectively market their brand anymore.

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jwillj2k42d ago

There really needs to be a class action lawsuit here. You buy these companies just to put people out of jobs. And it’s not like something happened to derail their plans this WAS the plan. Microsoft has no business in this space at all.

franwex2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Microsoft has been doing this for years. They simply want the IPs. Look at Nokia. Look at Skype. This time it simply expanded to games. Gaming is not as important to Microsoft’s executives as it was to the founders too. Bill Gates was willing to sell the og Xbox at a loss. Steve Balmer approved the red ring of death fiasco. This CEO isn’t really a gamer.

-Foxtrot2d ago

Maybe it's time though to put a stop to it and use a big giant like Microsoft as a huge example to the rest of these big companies.

There has to be a line drawn somewhere.

People like the FTC and the like went against Microsoft yet their Actvision deal was still allowed to go through yet look what's happened...it's not even Acitivisions studios aswell, it's Bethesdas.

VariantAEC21h ago

Years?

Try several decades, and in the gaming space 2.3 decades.

Jon615861d 6h ago

You do realize this happens in ALL industries? Or are you just saying this because it is Microsoft? In any case I feel for those that are being let go but the trch industry is suffering right now.

jwillj2k41d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

This absolutely does NOT happen all the time. Let me know the last time 1 company with a terrible product track record spent 100 billion onto acquire MULTIPLE successful companies in under a year only to shut them down and stop making their products regardless of how successful they were. Not merge them, completely shut them down.

And you can’t use Microsoft in your example.

Notellin1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

Class action lawsuit? The law is on their side and protects them at all costs. There are no rules to protect the people at the bottom.

jwillj2k41d 1h ago

Not true when it comes to mass layoff do your research.

RNTody2d ago

Ninja Theory, Perfect Dark, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Wolfenstein 3, Dishonored, Prey, Doom, Quake... something tells me that bad things are going to happen to these entities under Microsoft.

MrDead1d 15h ago

ID software, the makers of Doom and Wolfenstein that have been with us since 1991 could be gone and MS will keep the IPs.

I hope some of these studios can buy their freedom from MS otherwise this is going to be even more devastating for the industry and gamers.

Yui_Suzumiya1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

That's exactly what I'm worried about. I've been a fan of id since Wolfenstein 3D and I'm honestly afraid.

lodossrage1d 9h ago

Toys for Bob saw the writing on the wall and bought themselves out.

Wouldn't be the first time a company did that under MS either. Bungie and Twisted Pixel did the same. Considering what just happened, I can see some other devs trying to buy themselves out too.

anast2d ago

Good thing the bosses of all those small studios made their money.

glenn19792d ago

they cant do it right now they will get burned

XiNatsuDragnel1d 16h ago

Phil and his team need to be gone

lodossrage1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Won't make a difference.

The whole structure needs to be overhauled. Anyone that replaces Phil will be no different than him, Mattrick, or anyone else.

Until the company changes how they go about business, nothing will change

glenn19791d 6h ago

I just don't have any idea what they would do , they have done sooo much damage on their xbox brand, they have a show at July or June I think, but will it even matter even they show amazing games, idkn

lodossrage1d 9h ago

True,

But they may as well get it over with. Whether it happens now or later, the burning is going to hit the same.

Reality is the ONE move that can alleviate a lot of this is the one move they can't make. Remove day 1 from gamepass.

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Microsoft Opening Xbox Mobile Game Store in July

The Xbox brand is expanding, as an Xbox mobile game store is opening this coming July where Microsoft will brings its "first-party portfolio."

Jin_Sakai3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

“Bond adds that they will start on the web”

This will go nowhere.

Nice knowing you Xbox. This is what happens when the house never gets cleaned.

MrDead3d ago

The only this MS is expanding is the amount of feculence it sprays on everyone who just want to enjoy gaming and make games.

The best thing MS can do for the gaming industry is leave and never return.

XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good luck with this even it might not succeed.

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