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This Week in the Business: 'The Public Isn't Aware the Wii U Exists."

What's happened in the business of video games this past week .

Sandmano4017d ago

The Casuals dont know but the hardcore do, theres your problem Nintendo...

Mustang300C20124017d ago

Even the so called hardcore are not buying it.

Sandmano4017d ago

Thats my point, the hardcore know but dont want it.

_-EDMIX-_4017d ago

I was in a Best Buy in February returning something and saw the Wii U boxes sitting in the middle of the Isles and completely forgot they existed.

I also think it has to do with the lack of buzz that's going around about it I don't think its just marketing.

SilentNegotiator4017d ago (Edited 4017d ago )

Why should the casuals want it, though? Most of its games are currently on cheaper systems and touchscreens no longer wow people.

That's the problem. It doesn't have a fundamental attraction for the casuals and lacks in what impresses the other end of the spectrum (the hardcore). What can you expect without the support of the masses OR the support of the group that spends the most (per individual)?

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4017d ago (Edited 4017d ago )

HEY!

I am not trying to Flamebait,
-but if you are a Nintendo Fan (& If you Don't Mind)-

Please post something about the WiiU.

Either use it as your Profile Pick on Non-Gamer Social Media or Tweet it or make it your status.

Get the word-out to the Casuals.

PS Spare me the "That's not my job! Nintendo should have done that!"-Talk.
-I said, "(& if you Don't Mind)".

Raccoon4017d ago

I do mind, That's not my job! Nintendo should have done that!

LOL_WUT4017d ago

Why does he need to do it or anyone for that matter? It's Nintendo's responsibility to get the message across. ;)

WildArmed4017d ago

I think it'll gain more track once the other two big HD consoles are out.

People will begin to realise there is a nintendo counterpart for the upcoming gen.

With time it'll happen, esp. when people start talking about the games Wii U offers (and you build a game catalog over time, so it'll get there).

Mustang300C20124017d ago (Edited 4017d ago )

This makes no sense. Honestly ths sounds just like the same excuses said about Vita. If people want a Wii U they would get the Wii U. No one knows or cares for the system. No commercials. No shelve space in Best Buy and 3rd party not taking a chance to invest. I am sure price drops will help but if you are relying on a price drop to help your brand new console move in less than a year than you already lost. Along with appeal for games in addition to negativity towards the tablet controller getting a gimmicky vibe. People can hype and talk about impressions but they are not translating into sales

Games alone are not the solution. The initial impressions and lack of consumer knowledge it even exist is the issue. Just like the Vita.

_-EDMIX-_4017d ago

agreed a price drop pretty much means your system is not worth the money you're trying to charge for it. mind you the Wii U is pretty cheap compared to what PlayStation 4 and Xbox are going to cost

at this rate it's only going to get much more worse.

CouldHaveYelledUiiW4016d ago

LOL

I meant what I said.
But Raccoon and LOL_Wut still made me laugh.

@WildArmed I think you may be right.
But I am going to do my part still.
I just want to get this dumb branding crap-out of the way so that it does not dampen my future WiiU investment.

Sony makes great games with movie like sensibilities, Microsoft has great Online, But Nintendo Rules Gameplay- I need All of these companies for the Industry to go where I want it to go.

@Mustang & -EDMix
Slow your horses there brohams. Aren't you forgetting something?

A: The PS4 and the XB720 have no quantifiable sales data as of yet. Using your logic the WiiU is 3.5 Million Units in the lead,

But we will see if that remains or if either Microsoft or Sony has a ruff start.

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BullyMangler4017d ago

nice im lovin this . the wiiU is so underground rite now . sweeet!

LOL_WUT4017d ago

And how is that a positive thing? ;)

BullyMangler4017d ago

because only a select few know about the wiiU, the rest will find out about its presence when it is time.

Hicken4016d ago

Anything to not acknowledge the negative, huh?

It's not like it's doomed or anything, but at least admit the damned thing needs a marketing push.

fairyblaster4016d ago

Why don't you understand what the mangler just said? Pay close attention to the words he uses.
Confused you are lol.

Jek_Porkins4017d ago

Hope it doesn't become to hipster to own one, eventually those types of people are going to own one and I'll have to distance myself...lol

Seriously though, if this is true, maybe it'd be better if they stop making the standard Wii altogether? I think they can do a better job at advertising the Wii U, maybe rebrand it or something?

Not sure how the Wii and Wii U are confusing, but Xbox/Xbox 360 and PS1, PS2 and PS3 aren't? I think those all might be confusing to some.

rainslacker4016d ago (Edited 4016d ago )

I mentioned before launch that the U really had no context to it being the next Nintendo system. New names made sense in the old days when it was just gamers who brought this stuff(Genesis, Saturn, etc). Sony's 1/2/3 is a natural incremental increase that is universally understood to be a way to denote successors, and 360 made sense because it had some standing within the nature of gaming(3D works in a 360 degree world).

Wii U just tacks a letter onto the Wii name(notice not the Nintendo name), using the same nomenclature of every Wii accessory released for it's predecessor(WiiMote, Wii Fit, etc). On top of that, no one knows what the U stands for at all. Just some random speculation, which unfortunately doesn't light up the masses interest like the name Wii did.

Other than that, I do think people know about the Wii U, and know that it isn't the Wii. I've seen people I wouldn't consider gamers be able to talk about it. Realistically though looking at it now it just seems to be something that not many want. If it becomes hipster, then at least it can gain a better install base...for better or worse. I'm sure it'll find it's legs at some point in the future, but the waiting for games is become rather frustrating.

Jek_Porkins4016d ago

The thing that gets me is that Nintendo never focused on the console itself, it really isn't a console with a lot of personality in my opinion.

Nintendo focused on the tablet controller and that is all well and good, but when you unveil a new console, you should show the console! That would probably help people to understand that it is a new console, the Wii U looks like a slightly bigger Wii, but uses blocks to stand up, the Wii was actually much more aesthetically pleasing.

rainslacker4016d ago

Honestly other than the Wii being bigger, they look almost exactly the same outside of some of the angles used.

One thing that I think struck a chord with the consumer on the Wii was that they showed it being used in a family setting where everyone was having fun. Even the name "Wii" implied a group of people.

Wii U is simply negating that group feeling that drew in the casual crowd of the Wii. Showing that one lone person off in their own little world while others are having fun seems to make the whole notion of a tablet counter-intuitive to what made the Wii so successful.

On top of that, there is nothing about the tech itself which is really exciting. Motion controls were exciting(for many) on the Wii's launch as controllers were a barrier to many in gaming. Tablets have been around long enough and are so commonplace, it does nothing to really boost the appeal of the system.

I don't mind the tablet myself, I see potential in it, but it seems Nintendo would be better off making some must have games for the casual and hardcore to get it to sell. Stop worrying about the gimmick and leave that up to the devs to figure out, and instead push the system as a game machine instead of trying to make it into the next fad that was the Wii.

Grimhammer004017d ago

I think many casuals know that Nintendo does something for that system they bought before tablets and cell phones really took off.

They realize that other system that was so hot really had no games worth a damn. Maybe a dozen in its entire marketed lifespan?

This new system that Ninny is not really trying to sell...isn't much of anything to really be excited for. Old ips rehashed ad nauseum. (Yes that applies to the other consoles too. )

If Ninny wants to get attention...lets see some modern ips that aren't family oriented.

Basicly....lets see Nintendo grow up. Even if only a little.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7218h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle5h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18813h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga5h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21834h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga3h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

purple1018h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos7h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac6h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1016h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic4h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein17h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno13h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k412h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson11h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu12h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson11h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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The INDIE Live Expo 2024 event is to feature over 100 game titles

INDIE Live Expo, Japan’s premiere online digital showcase series , will debut never-before-seen games & content updates across more than 100 titles on May 25th.