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Microsoft Xbox 720 to have omni-spatial gesture and Glasses-Free 3D UI

The US software giant has developed a unique User Interface which will let users enjoy a 3D experience with wearing any glasses. The system is based on an advanced Omni-spatial Gesturing input mechanism.

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Snookies124029d ago

This doesn't actually come with the 720 though... Right? I mean, if so that would be awesome. Though I'm pretty sure it said this was for all sorts of devices and wasn't specifically for the 720.

3-4-54028d ago

So basically Microsoft is including all the stuff we DON'T want into a next gen console.

* 3DS already has this tech and I love my 3DS but never use it. It's almost gimick.

* Nobody outside of maybe 200 small children actually want Kinect 2.0

We are going to have to pay for both...if....you purchase the new box.

I'd rather them think outside the box.

SephirothX214028d ago

199 small children. Get it right dammit!

SJPFTW4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

I dont even want Kinect but it does gives developers options. Skyrim, Mass Effect and especially FIFA and Madden integrates Kinect well into the experience granting greater immersion

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

but obviously Fanboys can't think outside of the box. and obviously a facebook-esque profile page on the PS4 that forces you to use your real name is obviously what gamers want in their next gen system *rolls eyes*

@BrunoM. Another gimmick that adds nothing to the core experience so excited

BrunoM4028d ago

SJP I see what your "trying" to say but very poor job at it and as far as you HAVING to use your real name on the new ps4 UI that's a lie even them selfs said If you wanna keep using you user name and avatar you can as easly do that ..

But hey fanboys and haters will hate

malokevi4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

Its odd, the people whom assuming makes an ass of...

I can't wait to get my hands on the new Kinect. Didn't go for it this gen. but with universal inclusion with every Xbox and improved hardware, I'm looking forward to great things.

Not to mention I'll never need a freekin XboxLive microphone again, because I can just yell at my Xbox... :D

If they can manage 3d without glasses on massive HD TVs, my jaw will drop and I will subsequently jump for joy. But, somehow that feels like a rumour to me... I'll believe it when i see it.

Anyone who doesn't see the potential in this thing is suffering from serious tunnel vision.

Edit: ohhh i see its just for the UI. STILL that would be so cool flipping through a 3d menu, sans glasses, with a flick of my hand.... bwahahahaha!

edit again: "a 3D experience with wearing any glasses.".... and this is why the article lacks credibility.

Qrphe4028d ago

"3DS already has this tech"

If this were to be true, the 3DS wouldn't have this tech at all. The 3DS works off a the limited parallax barrier effect, something that would never work on a living room TV.

3-4-54028d ago

whoa...You guys want 3D ?

You want Kinect ?

I'll stick to solid story, gameplay and a cool art style over 3D and kinect any day.

4me24028d ago

@SJPFTW

".... PS4 that forces you to use your real name is obviously what gamers want in their next gen system *rolls eyes*"

Facebook integration is optional, NOT forcing you to share your name with everybody, and is only visible to to your friends.

DOMination-4028d ago

And just like that, 80% of people on n4g claim 3D is terrible and pretend they always thought it was a gimick!

Ps. This is one rumour i really cannot believe

andibandit4028d ago

@xxLuckyStrike
ROFLMAO!!!!

sad but true

xbox gets:

3D --- I WANT 2D!!
Vibrant colors --- I WANT BLACK AND WHITE!!
Amazing graphics --- I WANT TEXT BASED GAMES!!!

Urusernamesucks4028d ago

What the hell, is the matter with you?

you use to be all about the xbox, but now, man your just disgracefull. So you think that by kissing sony's ass you youll fit in better here, its not worth it man. Even if all your saying is realy meant, there are BETTER things than games.I LOVE GAMES btw and anything else is like frosting to that.

Dont take this personaly btw, this goes to all those ex-fanboys such as Marcus_Phoenix.

ShinMaster4028d ago

to create a faux 3D effect? Sounds plausible.

@andibandit
You're ridiculous.

UnholyLight4028d ago

Always good to say no to something like Kinect 2 when you don't know what it's potential capabilities are.

Some people don't want 4k TV..well guess what, such is the way of the future, new things will be developed and become more commonplace.

Too bad for you!

sikbeta4028d ago

@3-4-5

Dude, talk for yourself, if you didn't try it, how you know don't want it? how you can be sure it's not some great feature that can change the way you interact with the console...

ziggurcat4028d ago

@ SJPFTW

"but obviously Fanboys can't think outside of the box. and obviously a facebook-esque profile page on the PS4 that forces you to use your real name is obviously what gamers want in their next gen system *rolls eyes* "

where are you getting your information from? because that's not even remotely true/accurate.

your attempt at trolling is a pretty big fail.

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Jessika_S4028d ago

I call bullshit on glasses free 3D only because all 3D content is Glasses free if you have a Glasses free Monitor or Television. You cannot implement 3D in a Non 3D tv, so you can't turn a non glasses free tv into one.

CommonSense4028d ago

Sony is bringing Move to PS4, i don't see anyone complaining about that.

What is with the insane double standard on this site?

Tr10wn4028d ago

lol 200 small childrens, i have 0 interest on kinect but im not stupid enough to think only a handful of people like kinect, go to the mall and you see a bunch of people playing kinect go to a party and the one thing playing on the tv is a kinect, that thing sold more than 24 millions units now you do the math.

3D is a gimick it self you just lost it there but there is always way to improve a gimick and it is by eliminating those stupid glasses, and again you must be really stupid if you think MS will put a 3DS style of glassless technology on their console especially when its meant to be played on HD.

Sony fanboys are extremely ignorant this year i mean they never seen beyond N4G this is their place but wow you must be a retard to think that kinect is pointless, an add-on to a console that sold millions... come on.

nveenio4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

First of all, glasses-free 3D is display dependent. The Xbox 720 may be 3D capable, but without the display to support it, "no 3D for you". Perspective shifting using head tracking IS NOT 3D.

Mr_Writer854028d ago

@CommonSense

Sony is bringing Move to PS4, i don't see anyone complaining about that.

What is with the insane double standard on this site?

That would be a valid point, if the following points couldnt be made.

- Move is still a controller
- Its optional

Now the first point Kinect cant change. But people are reacting to the news Kinect WONT be optional, until its confirmed its is. Then you may have a point.

But until then its not really double standards is it?

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SilentNegotiator4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

Why would the console itself have specifically "Glasses-Free 3D" built in? Would it not have 3D in general and the TV itself would mean glasses-free or not?

This rumor reeks of made-up-ness.

BISHOP-BRASIL4028d ago

I don't think it's any kind of stereo-image that's usually marketed as 3D now a days, but a kind of head tracking, making it possible to move around to perceive third dimension... Something like Desktop VR displays, all you need is a camera (and Kinect already can track your head, it's just a metter of coding really).

It can have pretty good results but the best is when you combine both the head tracking and stereo-images. Stuff really seens to come out of the screen.

braydox214028d ago

i think a better thing to add-on would be those tv glasses, i don't know what they are called but i saw them at the EB games expo on the xbox, and i they were like normal glasses and you put them on and its like when you use binoculers (just without the maginification effect) playing halo reach, it was pretty cool, so maybe a gimmick like that would be better then this 3D stuff.

p.s if anyone knows anything about these glasses wether they are being sold or not, please tell me im thinking about buying myself a set hopefully they work on ps3.

SilentNegotiator4028d ago

@bishop

If that's the sort of thing that they meant then calling it "glasses free" makes zero sense and sounds like it's coming from someone that has no idea what they're talking about.

Either way, this rumor sounds made up.

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Gamer19824028d ago

Glasses free 3D still requires a spaecial glass if it was possible without the glass then we wouldn't need 3D tv's for 3D.

Droid Control4028d ago

Well I don't like Kinect and 3D. I think they are both gimmicks. I'm more interested in resolution and frame rate. I'd rather M$ use their money and invest in in kick-ass hardware solutions like Sony has with the PS4.

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Gazondaily4029d ago

Sounds really cool albeit unlikely. Here's hoping its true!

jimbobwahey4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

Remember that guy who came up with that amazing 3D effect using the Wii remotes and sensor bar? Where it presented a 3D effect on the TV screen by moving all the objects on it in relation to the position of the Wii remote?

Microsoft could replicate the same thing with the Kinect sensor, where it adjusts and moves the UI on the screen based on the position of the viewer. So for example if you're sat in front of the TV and tilt/turn your head (maybe moves your eyes? apparently Kinect 2 can track eye movement) then Kinect could track this and move the UI as you do so, creating a pretty crazy 3D effect on the screen without the requirement for glasses.

The same thing could be done in games too, but obviously require a lot more processing horsepower compared to doing the same thing with a simple UI.

Edit: Here's a video example. http://www.youtube.com/watc...

CandyCaptain4028d ago

It most likely is true, since I believe Microsoft picked up the guy shortly after that demo made a huge splash on news sites. He ended up joining the Kinect development team.

thesummerofgeorge4028d ago

I've seen this before, and the effect is amazing, but isn't the problem with it that it only works for one person at a time?

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Gazondaily4028d ago

Ah yeah I remember. Makes sense actually. Can't wait to see what MS pull off.

kneon4028d ago

If that's all it is then I'm thoroughly unimpressed. This has been done before and isn't all that useful.

I was working on 3d ui's about a decade ago and for the most part it's just eye candy that doesn't actually improve usability except for a few specific use cases.

maniacmayhem4028d ago

Wow, just watched that Youtube video and that was very cool. If MS could pull that off for their next system UI and more importantly implement that in games then I would be on board.

TheKayle14028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

this guy that invented that project with the wii after the video on youtube get that success....worked in ms as a researcher in 2008 and then moved in end 2011 for google

http://www.microsoft.com/ap...

LNDCalling4028d ago

Looks kind of cool, though I do see the following problems:-

A) The effect can only be seen by the 'single' person being tracked.
-Not so bad if you tend to game alone admittedly.

B) It's not 3D unless you move, i.e. you wouldn't see depth if you were sitting still like you would for 3D content on a 3D TV!
-Generally when I'm navigating a UI or playing a game I do so without wobbling my head about all over the place! :/

Tr10wn4028d ago

@Kratos_Kills
"How would this work with more than one person sitting in front of the Xbox?"

It doesn't he said it in the video although he said its a more immersive experience for the one using it and you can clearly see it when he puts it in the camera and more importantly it doesn't require a 3D TV, we really dont know anything MS has done with this tech we will have to wait and see how its work if its true.

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CandyCaptain4028d ago (Edited 4028d ago )

Looks like they added support for a smart phone or tablet device to control the new system. Basically a more advance form of their smart glass tech. Too bad I hate touch controls, though this should allow for Wii-U/ps4 remote play capability without being limited to a certain device.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1012h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad46m ago(Edited 45m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10125m ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 9h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 7h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 4h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN21h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo23h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies19h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 7h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic17h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9016h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 8h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 5h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 7h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman11d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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