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Xbox fans outraged at Orth’s comments, Greenberg doesn’t know who he is

Aaron Greenberg, Chief of Staff for Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft, was shown Adam Orth’s tweets and his reply was really surprising.

NastyLeftHook04048d ago (Edited 4048d ago )

too late, he already did the damage. people in rual areas should feel insulted.

oh and i like how they say "may get fired" his behind is gone for sure.

@convas, please refrain from using racist/insulting comments on here. that is childish.

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ThatCanadianGuy5144048d ago

Convas... you seem to be having a bit of a meltdown the last few days? Are you okay?

on topic, it's strange to see MS take this route.I expected xbox and playstation to duke it out next gen again for round 3.

Instead, wii U is D.O.A and Microsoft seems hellbent on killing the xbox so it looks like it's just PS4 vs Ouya at this point lol

dcbronco4048d ago

Or at least rumors are hell bent on killing the Xbox. MS hasn't said a thing.

OpieWinston4048d ago

Rumors bro...
Sony had similar rumors, it's just people from both sides of the console war focused on destroying the other sides fanbase at all costs.

Microsoft will either A) Host a conference and show their game off, OR B) Wait till E3 and collectivally show their console and exclusives off as well as answer questions for the Xbox fans.

I will agree Wii-U is practically stuck in current gen, only thing keeping it alive is it having kickass Exclusives.

Personally I'm 70/30 getting a 720(LET THE DISLIKES COME) but I understand why people want the PS4 and I respect that, I've realized this console war is just pathetic and people will buy what they want.

Rant...Rant...Rant...FUCK RUMORS!

cyguration4048d ago

@Opie

The rumors about the PS4 were shot down a year before Sony announced the console (especially regarding Always-on and a ban on used games).

I'm not linking to those articles anymore because people should be informed before saying ignorant things without researching them first.

xursz4048d ago

I don't know what all this is about but I feel like Microsoft has made a string of bad calls recently. Didn't Win8 just fall flat and their flagship tablet fail to take off as well?

I have to wonder what the heck is going on over there.

Gaming1014048d ago

Developers are quoted as saying "Make sure to pay your ISP bills", so I can hardly say the always online is a hoax. If a guy working for Msoft says its always online, and devs are clearly indicating it, then it's happening whether you like it or not.

Microsoft needs to formulate a message with its marketing and public relations people to ensure they spin this in their favour as much as possible. Having a smug, ignorant piece of garbage mouth off like a douchebag, full of Hubris on Twitter is NOT good messaging, and terrible public relations. Quite frankly he should be banned from talking about anything even relating to Microsoft publicly, as there are certain secrets that need to be kept secret for good reason.

Sono4214047d ago

What did the tweet say??
Can somebody please tell me.

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fei-hung4048d ago

This is worse than Sony making a comment about getting 2 jobs at the PS3 launch, difference is, they didnt add salt on the wounds by calling Sony gamers "cheapskates" or "homeless" or "stingy."

MS needs to rethink their next gen strategy to make sure they are not D.O.A (DOA like in the FRIENDS theme song not the video game).

Cueil4048d ago

the difference is that was said by the head of Sony's entertainment division this was just some guy

silvacrest4048d ago

i doubt that matters, all most people will see is an official microsoft employee spouting ignorant nonsense

Skips4048d ago

@Cueil...

One of Microsoft's Creative Directors isn't just "SOME GUY". -_-

rainslacker4048d ago (Edited 4048d ago )

Both comments are unprofessional, and not very considerate of your potential consumers. Two wrongs don't make a right. Doesn't really matter if the guy isn't a high level CEO, in this instance he still has an obligation to be respectful to the consumers due to his ties with MS. He is perfectly entitled to his opinions, but given his position, he should consider how he presents them better. Also, as I recall Sony got a lot of heat over that comment, so not sure why people are trying to draw the correlation.

All that being said, Twitter is a bane on society.

Cueil4048d ago

Yes... he's just "some guy"... everyone knew Krazy Ken no one knows this guy... not even the guy in charge of the Xbox

extermin8or4047d ago

That statement wasn't said with any malice though- this guys tweet is deliberately said in a way to get people pissed off/riled up :/ Also he's a moron he likens having an internet connection to your console tot hat of an electricity supply. Idiot-one is ESSETIAL to the machine working- nothing anyone can do about that, however internet connection is an optional choice and only compulsory if they make it so.

SonyPS3604047d ago

Dead or Alive?

Isn't that a beat 'em up?

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dcbronco4048d ago (Edited 4048d ago )

If you think a person even in Greenberg's position knows everyone, even people in high positions, you're kidding yourself's. If you've ever known someone that hires large numbers of people for a company that has hundreds of employees you'd know that they still don't know everyone they hire. They are filling spots not getting to know people. MS has 65,000 people. I'm sure he doesn't know the vast majority of them.

Half the people on this site probably don't even know who the Vice President is.

Or you could attribute it to a fanboy attitude. Any hint that something might be negative about what you like and it instant defense force.

I do agree that the Orth comment was way out of line. Even if you think it you don't need to say it.

Sparticus_14048d ago

uh...we have a vice president?

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otherZinc4048d ago

I agree with Aaron Greenburg, I dont know who this guy is either. I think he works at SONY.

Good_Guy_Jamal4048d ago

Thanx for changing that obnoxious picture you had had before. I can now agree with your comments.
On topic, this whole mess is a PR nightmare. Glad I'm not on the team responsible for Xbox image.

MYSTERIO3604048d ago

Its understandable that Mr Greenberg didn't know this guy considering there's possibly hundreds of Creative directors working at MS. It doesn't mean that what Orth said isn't true and indeed he does work there.

Daves4048d ago

The problem is the damage is the truth.

NateCole4048d ago

It's good though. The more the xbox fans stand against this the greater the chance MS will not do something like this.

extermin8or4047d ago

at this late stage in the game, it's likely to be hardware related, so it's probably too late- if they aren't well underway with production- there's no way the next xbox will be out, smaller things cost more and are harder and take longer to prodice btw before anyone sys it will be small or something...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4048d ago

Glad to see all the good xbox press. Nice!

ps4 day 1 though.

Lior4048d ago

Some major Xbox fagboy ass hurtin on n4g today

extermin8or4047d ago

you realise that's a spoof account right? I follow it too has some bloody funny tweets :p

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MEsoJD4047d ago

There's a rumor that he was fired.

MYSTERIO3604047d ago (Edited 4047d ago )

I can see MS new marketing slogan now '' xbox 720 always online deal with it''

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majiebeast4048d ago

Hell if i was Greenberg i would also deny that i know the guy.

Ezz20134048d ago (Edited 4048d ago )

what i find funny that he deny that he know the guy
when that guy Indeed work for MS
and yet still didn't debunk what he said
unlike sony ...when the rumor abot sony blocking used games ..sony was very fast and debunk it
http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

omi25p4048d ago

That was after they had announced the PS4. When all the rumors were floating around they just said all will be at the conference.

Which seems to be exactly what Microsoft are doing.

_-EDMIX-_4048d ago

@omi25P- The rumor wasn't regarding the PS4. Sony had a patient that would ID the disk to the system and many believed this could be in the PS4.

No leaks for VGleaks or Kotaku or Edge etc said anything regarding PS4 devkits blocking used games.

Thus, Sony debunked it after PS4 was announced, but it wasn't part of any of the spec leaks.

The 720 bluray installs and always on DRM IS PART OF THOSE SPEC LEAKS! MS should bite the bullet and just say (We are working on 720 or XBNext and NO, it won't block used games) thats it!

At this point, they will mess up big time if people JUST keep thinking it really does block used games. But....I mean thats really if it isn't true. At this point, its pretty much all but confirmed. TOO MANY DAMN sources are confirming this to be true, many of which leaked out PS4's specs...all of which where 100% true.

So the whole "rumors" crap is just getting more and more sad. People....its pretty much all but confirmed to be true. Good enough for me! LOL! I said it before and I'll say it again....no system has been announced under sire secrecy.

TheSurg4047d ago

MS can't debunk anything because MS never said it works on next xbox. They can't even defend themselves from rumors untill next xbox is announced.

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THEDON82z14048d ago

yeah me too!!!!lllooollll!!!!

Anthotis4048d ago

Glad this smug prick got fired.

I wish misfortune on anyone who supports always online DRM and other draconian BS.

Rivitur4048d ago

Well you better start praying for Microsoft's demise then.

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Microsoft Survey Asks About Handheld

A new survey from Microsoft has further hinted at the possibility of an Xbox handheld being in development.

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EasilyTheBest5d ago

This is definitely happening, I just hope they have 2 versions one with a much bigger screen.

GamerRN5d ago

I'll be happy with this, and a PC console hybrid that rivals anything we have power wise

Number1TailzFan4d ago

The problem with bigger devices is playing them on your side in bed, Vita and before that was fine. Since the Switch you gotta have a gooseneck holder & controllers detached so you can lie down holding them, or your arm will quickly get tired.

1Victor4d ago

@thesofware: “A much bigger screen than what?”
A gaming laptop 🤷🏿🤣

Kosic4d ago

Than the screen originally planned...duh... :D

darthv724d ago

it kinda already did... https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

They are just gauging interest in one of their own.

crazyCoconuts4d ago

A Xbox version of Logitech G-Cloud?
I mean, why bother? Not like the G cloud is flying off shelves and what would Xbox add to make it better?
They're surely not going to create bespoke architecture here and there are already a few Windows handhelds out there. I have little confidence in their ability to put together an attractive UI in the way Steam did. So I doubt anything will come from this.

KicksnSnares5d ago

Day One buy for me if they'll make a dedicated handheld device.

darthv725d ago

i have that logitech g-cloud. Its a sweet little piece of kit. I like that it can also install games from the play store unlike the other android based handheld.

mudakoshaka4d ago

It sure is! Don't understand why you get the down-votes. Whoever does not like the G Cloud must have been dropped down a well, head first, when they were of a younger age.

PassNextquestion5d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will perform better in Japan if they do actually make a handheld since everyone says handheld and mobile are king over there.

TiredGamer5d ago

This looks like the future of the game industry... all three platforms with a handheld option.

I wonder if the Playstation Portal is a technology test-bed/prototype for a future Playstation handheld?

rlow14d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It’s a possibility but I can’t help but think would that be the best way to go about it? Though it would give you data on how much it is used and game type. It’s still not a true portable device and so people approach it differently. I think that data on phones, tablets, and of course the competition would give a better indication.

But I really think if Sony is considering a new PSP that could play ps5 games, now would be the time to dive in. Honestly, if they do this, it would be huge.

Traecy4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Doubt if Sony PS wants to support a new handheld with first party games. Something they lacked with the Vita. What they should do is have a handheld that is like the PS Portal which can play all games but play those games on the go as well as at home. Something like that is a better investment.

TiredGamer4d ago

Agreed that you will probably never see a separate line of games specifically for the handheld (a la PSP or PSVita). The modern economics and expectations of game development make that cost prohibitive. What makes more sense is if the full-fat game on PS5 or PS6 has a special "handheld" profile that is automatically optimized for the lower spec handheld. There would be some significant compromises compared to the bigger console variant, but it would be the same game overall and would only require a single purchase.... somewhat what the Switch does with a lower resolution when playing handheld versus docked.

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Xbox Games Showcase Followed by [REDACTED] Direct Airs June 9

- Xbox Wire - Mark your calendars! The Xbox Games Showcase followed by [REDACTED] Direct airs June 9. More info inside.

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bionicstar5d ago

Will they show Fable 4, Stalker 2, GoW 6 & Perfect Dark?

PhillyDonJawn5d ago

Crossing fingers for Fable and perfect dark. And State of Decay 3

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

And maybe Clockwork Revolution, South of Midnight, Contraband, Project 007 & OD? lol
and whatever happened to Everwild ?
+ that rumored Wu Tang RPG

Sonic18815d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Will they have official release dates and gameplay?

anast5d ago

Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming.

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Lightning775d ago

It's an Xbox showcase that they have every year.

Make smarter comments for once.

anast5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Tell me what a smarter comment is.

If they don't sell game pass the entire time, then I will be wrong. All of this can be proven once the show gets underway. Let's wait and see.

InUrFoxHole4d ago

@Anast
Anything you didn't type. Good day sir!

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Lightning775d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Wow too easy.

You went from MS going all streaming to selling gamepass content in which we all know they are.

Which one is it?

Pretty clear you don't know what a smart comment is at least you admit you don't know.

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anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"Another game pass event with their plans to go all streaming."

It's both. I would worry about your own intelligence at this point. It seems that there is not enough to go around for you to worry about how smart other people are.

Lightning774d ago

It's just a regular event announcing games. Nice one captain obvious they're gonna mention gp stuff like they do every year what else is new.

The all streaming part is just you, being you I guess. They have streaming options but going all streaming again is just you pulling stuff outta thin air.

anast4d ago

You don't know what a smart comment is or isn't. You're welcome for the help.

Lightning774d ago

No you said something dumb then you tried to back track and mention GP.

Again make smart comments for once.

anast4d ago

And we have broken record syndrome.

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darthv725d ago

Wonder if they will address the handheld rumors....?

jimb0j0nes5d ago

For a brief moment I thought we might get a whole Direct for Gears 6 - seems like it's COD though!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7210d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning779d ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga9d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv728d ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19928d ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21839d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan9d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit8d ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus239d ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv729d ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica8d ago (Edited 8d ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier8d ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan8d ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1019d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos9d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-9d ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac9d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9d ago (Edited 9d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic9d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead9d ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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