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Developer on Xbox 720 always-online: "All I can say is be sure to pay your ISP bills"

GC: "Xbox 720 rumours are flying thick and fast, and it seems the always-online rumour is getting more credibility."

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Godmars2904039d ago

This is quickly turning into MS's, "You have to work more to buy a PS3" comment. They have to be trolling at this point. Either themselves or their fan base.

Then again, its not like gamer community has ever really stood by its online protests.

sengoku4039d ago

this is going to cost M$ customers for sure..

sithsylar4039d ago

Not sure if it will cost them. 3rd parties love the whole anti piracy bullshit move. What if microsoft gets more support from them because of this move which in turns gets people to buy the console because its where the games are.... All i want is for them not to be rewarded for this shit move if true.

Skips4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

^^^

And ignore the MASSIVE install base the PS4 is sure going to get (even helped more so from this VERY inconvenience to consumers)???

Unlikely...

Dee_914039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Kaz's response
http://i.imgur.com/rixjoS6....
WIN!

after this backlash if MS dont change or alter this, they are done.I mean a delay to the release is well worth not having this .... "feature"

Dee_914039d ago

^^ thats not actually kaz btw

nix4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

it may not be Kaz but that was funny.

EDIT:

this is funny too... http://www.quickmeme.com/me...

Bathyj4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Damn funny but

Edit
Dammit nix, I was saying that.

NewMonday4039d ago

guess it's true then, only thing left is for Ballmer to dance around in a big stage yelling "always-online".

stupid and crazy, someone needs to tell MS core gamers are a tough crowd, just ask SEGA, Nintendo and Sony.

oh well, many will be saving 400-500$+ years of Live subscriptions.

BitbyDeath4039d ago

Saw this on GAF brilliant.

vet_medic4039d ago

Whoever is behind that fake Kaz twitter is one brilliant individual.

ps3_pwns4038d ago

@sithslyar the ps4 will have all the games and then some with better quality and better everything. at this point the only actual related game thing ms has is halo which is the only thing. one game which is no longer good should not make you pick a system thats trying to make you a slave to the system especially when the alternative is far better in ever single way. let go of your crap achievements everyone will be gaming on the ps4.

why are people fighting the ps4 and still trying to protect ms? do you work for them because as a gamer at this point it doesnt make any logical sense. id like somone who wants the next xbox to tell me why so i can show you why everything you say will be on the ps4 and better except for halo thats not even being made by bungie anymore.

Army_of_Darkness4038d ago

Apple drove Microsoft mad I tell ya.... who else is expecting an iBox 720??

nosferatuzodd4038d ago

like i said i told you so just doesn't cut it anymore I TOLD YOU SO lol
what if everything we heard has rumors and hear say is true damn

DatNJDom814038d ago

I hope you xbox guys learn ur lesson. This is what you get for supporting their sleezy ways. No surprise here all.

Pixel_Enemy4038d ago

EVERYONE remembers when PSN was down for an insane amount of time. Stuff like that happens. Internet service providers have service problems and so do the consoles with their services. Xbox Live went down for a week during christmas one year.

What everyone is seeming to forget is that while PSN and LIVE and your ISP are down, you could still play single player games on both consoles. MS is going to make it so you can't even do that next gen. It is pretty sad and unfortunate.

badz1494038d ago

So I guess if the rumors are indeed true, they must be thinking like "why not go a bit further this time around?"

Just think about it. There are xbox gamers still defending their "pay-to-play online" policy with just "xgame chat is worth the $60 a year fee!" Sony has proven that online can be offered for free and the Vita can do xgame chat with ease over a FREE network!

So...I can see that this is something that MS would do, knowing that they are dominating the US market and what can't ads do to help sell their next console to those unknowing masses? After all, they spent millions upon millions on ads every year. Remember the $500m budget for Kinect's ads. And then remember the XBL commercial with the LBP song? They lied in the face with that ad and THAT is definitely how they will market their nextbox.

JohnnyBadfinger4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

Bullshit! What is with the PS community? How fucking dare any of you try and dictate which console anyone buys. I'm buying the next Xbox now solely out of spite of ps fanboys.

And as far as I'm concerned the next Xbox is still a good year and a half away. But I bet you there will be multiple levels to the Xbox live service. Gaming will most likely be the lowest level but will still be pay to play. I have never used my 360 for anything else other than games and watching tv and movies off the computer. This will not change wheb the next box comes out. Plus 90% of the apps and partnerships the Xbox live services have aren't supported in Australia. So the drm is pointless. Apart from foxtel cable tv, which if I did have is unmetered usage through my ISP.

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SOD_Delta4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Microsoft should call the 720 "Zune Box", because If this rumor is true I believe it will turn out disastrous.

hesido4039d ago

The difference between the arrogant "You have to work more" comment and "Why would you live in a place without reliable internet anyway" comment is that, the former is simply arrogant and nothing else, but the second tells up how the platform is intended to work and affect the platform through-out its life cycle.

Zechs344039d ago

Adam Orth?!? Is that you?

Saigon4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

@hesido,

Do you hear yourself? Seriously the the comment about why would you live in an unreliable internet connection area is more arrogant. Mainly because some individuals can't help where they live. Its not there fault basic cable can't get to them. People own farms and such would have this issue because of that. This also affects individuals that live on hills where the only connection is satellite based. The comment about working more is not arrogant at all; why you might ask, because if it was a new phone, or new speakers, or TV, or such; most people would work a little extra to get what they want. Its harder to move than to work a little extra.

hesido4039d ago

The disagreers did not get it: (I don't think anybody got it)

"You have to work more" is arrogant, and bad, but it does not affect anybody's experience of the console.

"You have to live somewhere else" is indeed MORE arrogant, and for places with problematic internet access, it signals that people will have hampered experiences throughout the life-cycle of the console, and it is WORSE.

hesido4039d ago

I'm expecting too much from people to read between the line.

Saigon4039d ago

seriously, it didn't sound like sarcasm...and if that was the case I take back what I said...

T24038d ago

The comments were obvious trolling if this guy was really a ms employee maybe he was disgruntled ... But going all elitist about where people live is beyond stupid ... Society needs farms, rural development, etc ...WE cant all live in the city ... What are we all gonna eat mcdonalds ? Lol

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AngelicIceDiamond4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

No not really? I'm sure the internet bill will be the same. I dunno why or how it would go up. I use my internet heavily and no surge in the bill.

But the rumor is stupid nonetheless and its even stupider MS is defending this.

I think its time for MS to come clean, and enough BS'in.

EDIT: Ok wait a minute this technically coming from MS. I hope they are trolling or playing mind games, Because its getting dumb.

DragonKnight4039d ago

It isn't about your bill going up, it's about you paying your bill so you have internet period. Meaning if you don't have internet, you can't use the Nextbox.

JeffGUNZ4038d ago

@ DragonKnight, how do you know you can't play it off line? That makes no sense. I'm sure the system will be designed for internet connection, meaning better features, better smoothness, etc. We still haven't seen anything saying you can't play offline.

Sideras4038d ago

@ JeffGUNZ, that's true but if that was the case why not just defend the "feature" by saying it won't require it instead of being a smart ass?

Zha1tan4039d ago

Millions of morons will be lining the streets to buy this piece of crap anyway so online protests will be a vocal minority and gamers are to good at arguing amongst each other to come together and protest crap like this.

Cupid_Viper_34039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

"are to good at arguing amongst each other to come together and protest crap like this."

Hey man, gamers on the PS3 have, for 6+ years now, been telling the Xbox 360 gamers to stop paying for stuff that is free EVERYWHERE else.

So in my eyes, they've made their beds and now it's time to sleep in it. Or get a PS4.

They've defended every single thing Xbox 360 related. From RROD, to Disc Scratching, to Overpriced hard drives and Wifi Adapters, $500 millions for Kinect advertising, lack of exclusives, $50 million for GTA timed exclusives DLCs. I mean, the list goes on and on....

So what better ways could MS possibly thank them, than by doing this?

Kinect was the ultimate proof that MS needed to show them once and for all that they can sell "sh!t on a stick" to millions as long as they advertise it. Kinect's budget was $500 millions, Expect the Xbox 720's budget to be close to 4 times that at a cool 2 billion.

Hercules1894039d ago

So the people who've got the money to afford both are morons. Be a gamer, not a hater, plus we need to invest more money in american products anyway. And the Ps2 was just as faulty as the 360 but that didnt stop people from buying it over the original xbox.

T24038d ago

@ cupidviper - you make some good points ... I bought my 360 used so I never thought about all the extras but the noise of it, no wifi and xbl bills still pissed me off ... That and they do not let you remove your own credit card online... Fn bs

nosferatuzodd4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

Zha1tan
Zodd the immortal like that well f#cking said man i add some bubbles for that one

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GribbleGrunger4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Microsoft MUST respond to this and quickly. Even if it turns out to be untrue, there will be millions of gamers out there that still think it IS true. With no reply from MS thus far, we can only assume there's some truth to it though ... I wonder if it's too late to change their policy? I'd imagine MS have managed to strike some pretty sweet exclusive deals with devs because of this (if it's true of course)

Gazondaily4039d ago

MS conducted a survey recently and the results were a resounding NO about this always on malarkey. If MS do go ahead with it, then it really does speak volumes about Microsoft as a company.

But you're right; a response needs to be forthcoming very soon.

MikeMyers4039d ago

Why would the same people who read these rumors not read the hard facts when it does come eventually? There will be plenty of time to get the truth out before people make their purchases.

JANF4038d ago

@MikeMyers

Boy your are making too much sense. Oh, i forgot "sense" is not a word in the N4G dictionary.

:)

GribbleGrunger4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

@Mikemyers:

Because everyone will have heard this news now, even those that don't come on sites like this very often and those that have friends who will tell them. Once it's out there it's almost impossible to take it back. People will still believe it even if it's not true. Then you'll have people who will preorder a PS4 based on this between now and when it's finally admitted or retracted. Not ALL of those people will cancel that preorder.

This needs an official response from MS because if they don't it gets more and more likely it's true. And even if MS don't go this route, people will assume it's because of the stink this is creating ... which of course will lead them to believe that MS may reintroduce it at a later date.

MikeMyers4038d ago

I understand what you're saying Gribble and there is probably some truth to that but likely on a very minor scale. Those who are already per-ordering the PS4 were likely to do it anyways regardless of these rumors.

Microsoft wont comment because they don't want to even announce its existence yet. Everything seems to be in secrecy. So if they say its not true then that admits there's a new Xbox. We all know its coming but Microsoft no doubt wants to make a big splash when they do announce it. Likely not until E3. This isn't helping matters, you're right, but it the end if its not true then it's likely not to matter.

This E3 will also have mainstream media and known TV coverage. So anyone who still believes these rumours if they end up not being true after that will have to live with whatever they pre-ordered without knowing the facts. We don't even know all the detas yet on the PS4, and more importantly the price.

It's amazing how frantic the forums get over anything.

GribbleGrunger4038d ago (Edited 4038d ago )

It's gone viral now though. I can't totally disagree with you on some of those points of course, but I do believe just a simple statement from MS could stymie any serious fallout from this. Here are some of the sites that have now covered this story:

Amaebi.net
3DJuegos
CNET
CNET AU
CNET UK
CVG
Destructoid
Develop-on
Digital Spy
Eurogamer
Eurogamer Portugal
Eurogamer Sweden
Game Informer
Game Revolution
Gameplanet
GameReactor Sweden
Gematsu
Huffington Post
IGNth It'
Inside-Games.jp
Jeux Video
Joystiq
JVN
Kotaku
Mashablere
Meristation
Metro UK
MTV UK
Official XBOX Magazine
Penny Arcade
Power Unlimited
Shack News
Technobuffalo
TechRadar
The Escapist
The Verge
TheSixthAxis
Vandal
vg247

GraySnake4038d ago

@ Gribble

Not to mention memes are starting to be made from the situation.

MikeMyers4038d ago

What MS could say is they have no interest in creating a game console that must require an online connection at all times without mentioning the next Xbox.

I'm starting to think they will have some sort of validation code or the game disc having a handshake so to speak with the hardware. We all know the Xbox 360 was pirated and we also seen the rise in online codes to try and curb used games sales now. The worst case scenario for me is that MS comes out and says it needs to be online at all times and will not be offering a free way of playing multiplayer. That would be an instant no buy from me.

But again I' not going to jump to conclusions and write if off until I know for sure. If people want to believe everything off the net that's fine.

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RyuCloudStrife4039d ago

Yes M$, bring the Xbox into extinction HURRY!!!

Syntax-Error4039d ago

If any of this is true, say goodbye to my Gold Membership. PSN+ will get my money!!!

otherZinc4038d ago

Again, M$ has announced nothing, period.

brave27heart4038d ago

Thats kind of the problem.

A simple "We are not considering implementing always online for future hardware designs at this time" would minimise the damage.

Now its too late. The big issue is that if they are going down this route releasing that information on their terms in their own way could have lessened the impact. Instead we hear it from the mouth of an arrogant obnoxious toss pot and thats how people are taking it.

If MS make no comment before the end of the weekend its going to cost them millions in lost sales. They need to do some serious damage control right now.

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CoryHG4038d ago

@sithsylar

It's called the crash of the gaming industry.

imdaboss14038d ago

you dont need 2 jobs to afford the xbox720 you to move to another dam state for great internet access.

Nilemonitors134038d ago

All I know is that if this is true, and people still buy the new xbox, it'll prove that people will let anything or anyone stomp all over them, let us Ps fans enjoy our console, and let xbox people "enjoy theirs" there's only so much we can do to warn them to avoid M$ dirty business practises, in time they will realise their mistake, stubbornness cannot be cured. Let's only care for our future as gamers and support our company.

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a_bro4039d ago

Something tells me that the reason why Microsoft isn't talking about the 720 this early in the year is because of this crap. They know this is going to cause controversy

Godmars2904039d ago

Which has now officially - whether they say so or not - exploded because of this.

Ezz20134039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

really ?!
then what the hell is happening right now ?!!

majiebeast4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

1 big PR nightmare for MS. Also they cant fire the guy cause it will only fuel more rumors.

I think he has learned not to tweet about his job in such a manner even if its against a friend.

The internet where your stupidity is recorded forever.

http://www.quickmeme.com/me...

clintos594039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

It always ran in my mind why microsoft never ended these rumours because they are always quick to debunk rumours & are always 1st to it when it comes to sales but these rumours have been floating around for quite some time now. Also the guy who got arrested for durango info is more proof alot of these rumours maybe true & is why microsoft is so quiet.

Software_Lover4039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

They are not quick to debunk. They usually say we do not comment about rumors or speculation. That is usually their response.

No FanS Land4039d ago

Sony is the one famous for this type of response.

Ms tries to spin most of the time, but it is still true that MS is NOT saying anything, shying away from something.

clintos594039d ago (Edited 4039d ago )

Yet they havent even said anything which leads me to believe these rumours are true.

Software_Lover4039d ago

Well there goes his future, since they found him out. It would be funny as hell if they are just feeding the trolls. But it would be sad if they weren't

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7213h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle52m ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Cacabunga18m ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

purple1013h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac1h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos51m ago(Edited 49m ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 10h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 7h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 5h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN22h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies20h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 10h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 7h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic18h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9017h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 9h ago (Edited 1d 9h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 9h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 9h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 6h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 8h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 7h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref11d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde11d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197211d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville11d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref11d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan11d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref11d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde11d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197211d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197211d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier11d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto11d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts11d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts10d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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