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What did console developers learn from this generation?

This is a tough scenario. What, if anything, have the big three console manufacturers learned from this generation? Will the same mistakes be made again? GoozerNation takes a minute to reflect on the end of this generation and looks at both the positives and the negatives and speculates on what it all means.

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Feline_Pornographer4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

Sony: Graphical dominance over the much weaker Xbox 360, massive first party exclusive developer array, and strong support in all key console regions was the key to making the PS3 sell at the same rate as the top selling console in history, the PS2.

PS2 14 years * 11 mil/yr ~160 million
PS3 7 years * 11 mil/yr ~78 million

Even if the PS3 has isn't on the market for the full 7 more years the PS2 was the PS3 will be Sony's third 100+ million selling console.

Nintendo: Nintendo learned that you can't just sit back expecting profits to keep rolling in. They did almost nothing to capitalize on the huge mindshare and money they had from the first half of this gen and they are paying the price now with the Wii U.

Microsoft: Rushing out junk and underpowered hardware with the Xbox 360 in the desperate hope that it will give them an advantage was a complete disaster. The Xbox 360 ended up in last place this gen despite launching a year early, being 200 dollars cheaper than the PS3, and padding out its installed base by millions and millions of extra consoles sold due to the RRoD fiasco. Microsoft learned that it is futile to continue to take on Sony and instead have thrown in the towel and given up taking on Sony and instead are trying to turn the next Xbox into some sort of Wii type graphically weak motion control casual shovelware box.

Software_Lover4064d ago

PS3 not selling at the same rate as the ps2. Its outselling the 360 for sure, but not the ps2.

bourg4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

The PS3 is selling at a slightly lower rate than the PS2.

Absolutely amazing job by Sony considering the PS3 launched at DOUBLE the price of the PS2: 600 dollars vs 300 dollars.

Even if we assume the PS3 only remains for sale half the remaining time the PS2 sold for - 3.5 more years vs 7 more for the PS2. The PS3 will easily outsell the 105 million selling PS1, outsell the Wii's installed base ending up the top selling console this gen and be the second highest selling console in history only behind the PS2 in worldwide sales.

PoSTedUP4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

wii sold a lot of "crap", PS3 has inferior ports (in the begining) because it was hard to develop for but had superior graphics in their exclusives, and 360 had superior ports but exclusives couldnt compare to the Ps3's.

final judgement: the most out of your game: PS3
better sales but less out of your potential: 360
lowering your standards and possibly "banking": wii

: P

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MikeMyers4064d ago

1) That they can release games broken in hopes of fixing them with an update

2) That DLC and other online components were used to help sell games and to keep gamers with that product.

3) That going multiplatform was the way to go.

4) That they can keep recycling IP's and take little chances.

5) That some of the above comments show there is a very vocal minority who are very loyal and are the ones who mainly attributed to the console wars.

mcstorm4064d ago

That was well put and what I was thinking.

I do think the cost of this gen has forced developers to keep recycling the IP's because there has been a lot of new IP's that have cost a lot to make but sales have been poor.

I would like to see more IP's next gen but this all depends on how expensive it will be to develop game next gen. I think the PS4 and Next Xbox will be quite similar on how they are made and this should help developers bring the cost of making games for the Next Xbox and PS3 but we will have to wait and see. I do see them carrying on making DLC for games but if im honest ide rather developers make a game and then rather than bring anther one out 12 months later the developers give us a DLC for £20 that gives us a new SP mode and some new MP levels a little bit like Dice have done with BF3 but I cant see them doing this.

Hingle_Mcringleberry4064d ago

Sony: how to blow billions in one generation. That is all.

aquamala4064d ago

N4g should stop giving new accounts 3 bubbles, otherwise trolls are just going to make new accounts like this when their real account is down to one bubble

MikeMyers4064d ago

You're right and I know a few of them off-hand that have multiple accounts. It should be like Neogaf, one account per ip address and if you screw up too bad so sad.

BitbyDeath4063d ago

GAF stops SPAM by only allowing in users with paid email address (blocking the likes of Hotmail and GMail etc)

IP bans don't do much when someone can easily get another.

Problem is implementing this method could potentially kill a website as a large percentage of users would have to sign up again.

Good_Guy_Jamal4064d ago

It's like they are incapable of saying anything without dragging the other consoles through the mud. It is disturbing.

maniacmayhem4064d ago

What's hilarious is this guy will have 4 bubbles by end of day,

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Murad4064d ago

How to f***k gamers over.

Canary4064d ago

Or, rather, they learned that they can **** gamers over and gamers will bend over, lower their trousers and beg for more.

CalvinKlein4063d ago

thats the one thing I was thinking they learned for sure, how to squeeze more milk out of the cow.

Prodigy-X4064d ago (Edited 4064d ago )

What? Nothing But DLC!!!

silvacrest4064d ago

more RAM is always a good thing?

phantomexe4064d ago

I hope it's not to release a 500 or 600 dollar consule. More RAM as well.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7212h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

purple1011h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac27m ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13m ago(Edited 12m ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers21h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken8h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g18h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing17h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H917h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola14h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66916h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle16h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 8h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 6h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 3h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN20h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo22h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies18h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 6h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic16h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9015h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 8h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 7h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 4h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 7h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 6h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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