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Why the Playstation 4 and Not The New Xbox System Is the One We are Getting at Launch

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an opinion piece stating that the Playstation 4 and not the new Xbox is the system that they will be picking up at launch.

They cite past issues with the Xbox such as paying to play games and the red ring of death as factors why they will take a wait and see approach with the new offering from Microsoft.

Knight_Crawler4066d ago

Very bias article - nothing has been confirmed about the 720 as yet and everything floating around is based on rumors, as far as we are concern the 720 does not excise.

Also the articles states that they will take a wait and see approach before they buy the 720 but are willing to buy the PS4 with knowing if Sony will charge for the new online experience or keep it free or how much the console will cost.

People need to relax and wait to see what both will show after E3.

Snookies124066d ago

I agree, the next Xbox hasn't even been revealed yet... I'm definitely getting a PS4, but seriously? How are you going to say that you're going PS4 instead of the next Xbox when you don't even know anything official about it?

kingmushroom4066d ago

Easy , Sonys Diverse First party exclusives

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MysticStrummer4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

I can see how some people might have made their decision already. I know several people who swore never to buy another MS console because of their experience with RRoD. Others might make their decision based on the available games, since fun is subjective and one side's catalog of exclusives might appeal to them more than the other's. Another group of people might have realized that XBL is the only network that makes you buy your games, then pay again to play them online.

I'd say that last group is the reason 360 will end up in 3rd place, if it's not there already. People who waited this long to buy a PS3 or 360 did so mainly because of price, so they won't want to pay extra to access online play. Because of that, most of the people that helped PS2 sell so many more units after PS3 launched will buy a PS3 when the price gets low enough. Those late adopters who also buy based on quality games will see that one side has more exclusive GotY winners and graphics awards.

Those who buy every console may not understand it, but it is possible to have made your next gen console purchase decision already, based on the past. New info from MS can always change things though.

Army_of_Darkness4066d ago

I'm happy with Sony's software support and free online gaming as of now so as long as they keep this up with the PS4, I will pick it over xbox 720 without hesitation! especially if they release near the same time frame as each other.

ICECREAM4066d ago

Yet you have made up your mind.

princejb1344066d ago

it all depends on the games and of course free online
i still refuse to pay a subscription service for xbox live
yea xbox had the best online experience this gen but they lacked in games that i just didnt like

i could honestly care less about the specs as long as the games are fun and look decent

shoddy4066d ago

Easy, free online and no waiting for download

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knowyourstuff4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

It may benefit you to wait to see the defect rate on Msoft's new console, especially if you don't want to experience the same nightmare that was the RROD. Microsoft isn't a hardware company, they're a software company, and are more than willing to rush out something even if defect rates are 30% and higher right off the bat if it means releasing in time for Christmas.

ShinMaster4065d ago

Microsoft has had ulterior movies and doesn't seem to care that much about gaming. The Xbox is a Trojan horse for something else.

insomnium24065d ago

The media sure is kissing Sony's a** this time around. What happened to BD is dead, PS3 is doomed and x360 is more powahfull?

TheRealSpy4065d ago

The article sites the RRoD as one of the reasons they are waiting. Why is Xbox now held back cuz of that but nobody said this about the ps3's launch after the massive failure rate of the PS2. Such hypocrisy.

Personally, i'll be buying several of each at launch. Plenty of people out there too stupid to preorder.

@kingmushroom: Those "diverse first party exclusives" didn't start showing up on ps3 for a long time, buddy.

@knowyourstuff: umm..8 years is rushing? also, see hypocrisy comment.

@insomnium2: what psycho, victim world are you living in? the media has always had a love affair with sony and nobody ever said 360 was more powerful.

loulou4065d ago

lol n4g. i especially love all the trash sites that write rubbish just for the hits..

i can't believe how swamped n4g is in fanboys.

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Garethvk4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Hey guys, we missed a paragraph that was not added. It has been replaced now. Sony will not be charging for their games to be played online and we know the console will be below $600.

We have talked with third-party developers who work on games for both systems. They have told us that while both have nice features, the PS 4 is a better system with more power and features.

classic2004066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Their fanboyism is the one that blinds them, they won't believe sony will be free online.

Derekvinyard134066d ago

I hope it's below 600 maybe 400

Gildarts4066d ago

You guys are not real journalist, you do not have any form of contact with third-party devs, stop lying. Real journalist will pick-up both consoles at launch or even before that regardless of its predecessors faults. Real journalists don't judge something before it's even released let alone revealed.

Gildarts4066d ago

Don't PM me, If you were a real journalist you wouldn't PM me.Real journalists would just ignore that, they don't give a shit about what people think as long as they are getting hits. It just proves that i am right and that you are a liar.

DigitalRaptor4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

Cheers Gareth

It's good to hear this coming from a real journalist. Charging $600 again would be foolish on Sony's part and something I've believed wouldn't be repeated. Again, DigitalRaptor has been pushing the notion that Sony will never charge for the ability to use your own Internet bandwidth for online gaming, but I was met with "Sony are losing money and need to charge for online". To which I replied "they have their business model in PS+ and will only continue growing as the years go on".

So thanks for confirming this again.

PS4 is looking to be a great thing for the industry - that's gamers AND developers. I'm looking forward to seeing the anti-Sony fanboys to pull things from their asses to try and downplay what looks for be something amazing.

What I know is that charging for online play is going to catch up with Microsoft at some point, and they won't have the mistakes of their staunchest competitor to lean on since Sony are in Viper mode. All we need are some brave journalists to expose the truth about paying for XBL and free apps etc.

@ Gildarts, I only have to look at your Microsoft defense comment history to understand why you would attack Gareth like that. A real journalist, in fact, gets their hands dirty and talks to the people. I'm not talking about corrupt members of the press, but real journalists who do what they can to seek truth. And real journalists don't always have the money to afford everything at once. Not every journalist outlet has the budget of say IGN or GameSpot. Real journalists use past experience to shape future decision.

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classic2004066d ago

Waiting on E3 for kinect 2.0 with casual games, xbox tv, kinect tv, third party games already on PS4/PC, fable mmo, more talk about app, halo 5 and one new IP from black tusk.

Rumored DRM or online always system.

only the new IP I am interested in which might be a launch title but not enough to keep me interested.

With Microsoft being so predictable why would people feel comfortable when we know how the last 3 years of E3 look, microsoft as not been the microsoft of last gen or early this gen.

unicron74066d ago

Pretty much this. They turned their back on the hardcore about midway through this generation. I don't see them returning any time soon. I'm not buying a console for purely Halo alone.

nirwanda4066d ago

They have alot of studio's that haven't done anything for a couple of years so I expect alot of new games at launch probably even more than sony and it will be better at media stuff than the ps4, but the ps4 will probably have better specs

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MYSTERIO3604066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Im split on this one part of me wants to see what MS has to show at E3 the other just doesn't care what they show after how they treated their customers. I just feel the whole Gold membership deal is put me of MS plus many of the exclusives titles i bought a 360 for are multiplate i.e. Mass effect, Bioshock and Ghost recon.

Muffins12234066d ago

Really then why did xbox order the fbi to raid the guy that leaked durango if they where fake...

AngelicIceDiamond4066d ago

Its very, very, VERY pathetic to bash a unannounced console.

Articles like these aren't proving anything besides shadiness and complete and utter stupidity.

And gamers wonder why, WHY the mainstream media don't take our profession seriously...

InMyOpinion4065d ago

If anything it would make more sense to assume that the Xbox 720 will likely be the console with the least hardware problems, looking at the hit they took from RROD.

kickerz4066d ago

Next Xbox day 1 purchase for me :)

fsfsxii4065d ago

Have fun playing kinect 2

CoolBeansRus4066d ago

Why is this news? This is a opinion based on rumors. Why would anyone make up their mind on a system before actually knowing any details about it. That is called being bias, which this article is. The article should be renamed, " Why we are bias towards Sony."

KwietStorm_BLM4066d ago

You were marked as well said, but you have equal agrees and disagrees.. Lol this site is the lulz

Snookies124066d ago

@ICECREAM - Who said I made a choice? I said I'm getting the PS4. I might get the next Xbox as well. I like having all the consoles and PC. That way I can play any and all game releases. :]

Shnazzyone4066d ago

God, I kinda wonder how N4g is gonna react if there's any point ps4 is being outsold by wii U, let alone the 720. I hate articles like this because you can literally tell nothing right now from the available info, I mean, we don't even know what the ps4 or 720 will cost, and as the last few gens have taught us, price is king. We can quibble over specs all we like, In the end, the decider is going to be what each system costs.

ALLWRONG4065d ago

Begging people to buy a PS4. LOL only here.

morkendo234065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

what i know so far about ps4 (no BC) not looking appealing, specially using cloud for (BC for ps2,ps3 games) also the 720 not desirable either with Allen wake,Halo,Forza,Gears only. this new generation of console do not have much to offer far as games to want. military, first person shooters,zombie killing,action multi-player role playing games not for me.

i'll pass at 55 time to hang-up the controller.

OLD SCHOOL GAMER retiring

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Gimmemorebubblez4066d ago

Based on my experience with Sony Playstations I will be getting one on launch day. BUT while the Xbox 720 rumours don't sound good, they are just rumours and I will reserve my judgment for when the Xbox 720 is unveiled. This article is baised and is only ment to draw attention to start the clash of the Fanboys. Microsoft is successful for a reason so don't dismiss them ever.

AO1JMM4066d ago

I'll get both because I'm a gamer.

aviator1894066d ago

what excuse?
as a gamer myself, I want to be able to get the fullest gaming experience I possibly can.
And if that means getting all the consoles for the games that I want, I don't see that as an excuse. Rather, it's rational reasoning.

AO1JMM4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Excuse????

There WILL be numerous games on both systems that I will want to play. This isnt football or baseball, So I will not limit my choices based on some blind fanboy dedication to a console manufacturer.

pixelsword4065d ago

Sarcasm: missed on you two guys.

lol :D

unicron74066d ago

I'll get the 720 eventually when I have more money. But I know at launch, PS4 for sure. I'll give MS a year or two to prove to me that it still has hardcore chops. I'm not buying it for purely Halo alone.

DaPrintz4066d ago

Agreed. I have a 360 for Gears and Halo, but I need to decide whether I want to continue paying for Live. Everything hinges on what Live will cost and the games that are there at launch. I may be able to hold off for a while depending.

KEEPNITREAL4066d ago

That's the best response I've read today ! Tired of all these fanboys , Sony fanboys are the worst ! What's so wrong with people getting an Xbox or wiiu instead of your precious ps4 . Real gamers get to enjoy all types of games whether it's on their favorite system or not. We get to enjoy the Uncharteds,Halos,Killzones,For zas,Mario bros,Witchers,Crysis,Zeldas,Sp linter cells,Call of dutys,Battlefields,World of warcraft,Diablos, ECT. So many Badass games all around !!!

Jazz41084065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

The new oxm specualates ms will have a stripped down online available for free on the new xbox. If you want the bells and whistles then live is the way and I think sony will take a similar approcach with plus but we need to wait and see as bein biased before sonething is even announced is verh unprofessional when ms lead sony for alot of this gen and may stilll do so never underestimate either sony or micro espeially when you dont even have any clue what ms is doing next gen as they have said nothing. Just be patient and lets see what ms is doing with twenty studios they currently have now with the eight studios they have purchased in the last two years that have shwed nothing.

jessupj4065d ago

I'm a gamer, and until MS proves they're passionate about gaming, I won't be considering them at all.

puamdefokejpn4065d ago

they be filled with cocaine,.. youtube Ballmer,.. they are passionate alright ,.. just not about the games

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HeavenlySnipes4066d ago

Don't even know what the next Xbox is and you're making this article....

Garethvk4066d ago

I know alot more than you think. I work with game developers all the time, I also work with both companies all the time. Microsoft is having us out for their Gears of War launch next week. All I am saying is that we are taking a wait and see approach on the new Xbox. There is no bashing of it, no saying that it will not be good, etc. Simply saying that based on what we know and on past experiences, we are getting the Playstation 4 first.

greenpowerz4066d ago (Edited 4066d ago )

Sounds like you're scared/worried as is most other Sony loyalist and or supporters.

Trying to condem a console and shape public opinion about it before anything is know about it is behavor of fanatical fanboyism.

I find it foolish to waste time trying to do Sony's job for them by attacking the xbox and promoting the PS4 when MSFT has not announced the new box and with Sony's history of lying and overpromising on thier new hardware time after time.

This attacking the unannounced 720 and chossing what 720 rumors to believe so you feel good about your future purchase is silly. Using certain devs after their *falling outs* with MSFT as scripture is very revealing how importand PS3 fans need Sony to beat MSFT this time/revenge even for this gen.

-Kinect attacked because Sony didn't envent something so popular and revolutionary

-The talking point that MSFT has no games comes from MSFT winning the 3rd party developer support and PS3 fans using it to deflect. Most of the games Sony has that PS3 fanboys boast about are shovelware and or game delayed over and over agin some being from almost a decade ago.

-The attack on MSFT's multi media plans comes from Sony supporters angry MSFT is doing it better and faster. (((IT ONLY DOES EVERYTHING)))

-Sony had no games for the 2012 holiday leaving a lot of bord Sony fans around to troll.

How can anybody say they would rather have a PS4 when the 720 hasn't been announced and Sony strategically lies about the console specs, launch dates, console capability, game launches.

*Sony changes specs when reality sets in.

*Sony purposely announces games not ready then canns them or delays them when they can't cope.

*Sony is following their leader MSFT and has been for a decade

*What Sony says their new console can do is never true

*Most of the exclusives are overhyped shovelware and filler barely worth the rental due to the way PS games are designed no replay value(waste of money)

So again how does this article make sense? Why would the masses choose the PS4 over the 720? Simple they won't. unless Sony earns that right, no amount of fanboys in forums is going to win this for SOny LMAO. MSFT's consoles are attacked because what their doing keeps iving then the edge and people ahte them for that.

In the real world the masses see added value in a machine that can replace amny devices it's delusional to think a multi media device is going in the wrong direction.

mojoGAMES4066d ago

How is he attacking the Xbox? He simply states an opinion based on past history. If you had issues with a specific car, brand of TV/DVD Player, or even cell phone, would you be likely to get the same thing the next time around. I personally wouldn't, at least not right away. I would wait a bit until after the new product has launched and worked through it's bugs. If you actually read the article, he even said he was going to do just this. So am I, and I am not in gaming journalism as he puts it.

EZMickey4066d ago

While I agree for the most part that it's a little short sighted to rule out the next Xbox before it's official details have been released, I don't think it's unreasonable.

Most gamers have already chosen their sides, for similar reasons. They know what they like and what they trust.

I think the disagreement in the comments stem from the fact that there are still quite a few gamers undecided.

I thought Sony set the bar quite high. I thought they did very well, covered all the grounds that they needed to and showed consumers what they want to see; A solid product that aims well into the future in it's design, build and as well as the services it offers.

However, I'm an Xbox gamer. So I will wait. I would buy an Xbox 360 primarily for Halo, I'll admit that. I love Halo, I love Forza- genuinely, so it hasn't bothered me that Microsoft has given me more of what I love.

Would I buy the next Xbox primarily for Halo? I don't know. There needs to be more. Everyone has said it already, we want more and not just more of the same.

I'll play wait and see just as I did with my Xbox 360 and 3DS, while every "journalist" on the internet writes Doom articles for the new consoles weeks after they've launched.

@greenpowerz

It's clear to see why you have one bubble.

DigitalRaptor4065d ago (Edited 4065d ago )

@ greenpowerz

Honestly, who is more worried after THAT insecure bout of Sony hatred damage control?

"Trying to condem a console and shape public opinion about it before anything is know about it is behavor of fanatical fanboyism. "

So releasing opinion and making decisions based on valid reasons and truthful things that happened in the past is wrong? Microsoft's specs have been released. You lie that SuperDae's info is not correct, but at this stage all you are doing is defending something out of ignorance, desperation and fear.

"Kinect attacked because Sony didn't envent something so popular and revolutionary"

So Microsoft invented controller-free gaming? Or was that PrimeSense, or was it Sony before them with EyeToy, or was it Sega before them with the DreamEye. Brush up on your history kid, Sony fans know very well the inadequacy of that type of input for gaming. We've been burned before, but you're experiencing less than stellar motion gaming for the first time. Good going.

"Most of the games Sony has that PS3 fanboys boast about are shovelware and or game delayed over and over agin some being from almost a decade ago."

Said the hypocritical Microsoft fanboy. Most of those games are... ACTUAL games with ACTUAL focus. Ranging from average to great. Plus, you can't even downplay the diversity and risk taken from new IPs.

"The attack on MSFT's multi media plans comes from Sony supporters angry MSFT is doing it better and faster."

Not earlier though. You need to get your facts straight. PS3 was placed into the market as a multimedia hub long before Microsoft planned to initiate their plans to lock in your multimedia entertainment by making you go as far as paying for it. When Sony's online network impresses gamers enough that they don't mind not paying for the very basics, you won't have a leg to stand on.

"Sony had no games for the 2012 holiday leaving a lot of bord Sony fans around to troll"

And you must have no games at all by that logic, if you're here trolling. Holiday is all people like you seem to care about. You mustn't be used to round-the-year treatment.

"How can anybody say they would rather have a PS4 when the 720 hasn't been announced"

Because they're not blind and are smart about future decisions based on historical behaviour. RROD, charging consumers to use their own bandwidth for P2P gaming, casual focus, lack of support from Microsoft for their current console other than one game of which there is little to no hype for, lack of new IPs since 2010, lack of diversity in promoted exclusives, lack of risk in niche ideas that would be fruitful if they took risks.

"Why would the masses choose the PS4 over the 720? Simple they won't."

So you're critisizing the author for saying that he'd prefer to get PS4 when the 720 hasn't been announced, yet you're confident that people will choose it when it hasn't been announced. Hypocrite. Double Standards. Sound familiar?

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So fanboy in denial - greenpowerz - knows better than developers of next gen consoles it seems? Knows better than those with industry contacts?

Basically, when what one person says about their personal opinion (that they will get the PS4 before the next Xbox), makes you gush a hateful anti-Sony tirade of nonsense, it really just goes to show how MASSIVELY insecure you are about the direction of the next Xbox and scared that PlayStation could just be on a resurgence that Microsoft won't have the benefit of being able to silence, now that they have developers and Gaikai on their side.

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WarThunder4066d ago

Maybe, who knows.

But i will be buying the system that has the most games i prefer and i like.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7222h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle9h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18816h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio6h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga8h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21838h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga6h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus231h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10111h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos11h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-47m ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac10h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1019h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic8h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 18h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 16h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 13h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 6h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 8h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 4h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 16h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 2h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 1h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 18h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 17h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 14h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 17h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 16h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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