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Microsoft: “Everybody Knows” PS3 “Isn’t as Good of an Entertainment Console” as Xbox 360

Right before Sony had to eat humble pie when the PS3′s launch cost them billions and market dominance, they were criticized for being arrogant and cocky. Now they’re seen as a much more likeable and respectable company that doesn’t tell people to get another job.

Clearly not having learned anything from Sony’s past, Microsoft is now playing the villain.

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Dylila4088d ago

it isnt as good because its better

Enemy4088d ago

Microsoft has no games left, no blu-ray, inferior Netflix, and a subscription-based service. Sony is opposite to each of those things.

PS3 isn't as good, no...it's better.

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patterson4088d ago

Ah this just sounds like Microsoft playing the FOX News game of declaring something as true without backing it up with facts.

morganfell4088d ago

I would like to see the face of Yusuf Mehdi when he realizes that as he was talking nonsense all of the lifeboats left.

007Bond4088d ago

Yea it's better at being horrible! JK although PS exclusives are mostly overrated and most do not look interesting at all as well as xbox's

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rainslacker4088d ago

I hope when MS announces their new platform, Sony just wishes them luck, like they did with the Wii U. It's so much classier.

Darth Stewie4088d ago

No its because the PS3 is the better gaming console.

nosferatuzodd4088d ago

Microsoft is always like that,they never take their lumps like a gentleman.

Instead they bash and sabotage just like how they made that scroogle add when Google is kicking their cheep windows phone ass, or when apple came out with the iPhone.

They find all kind of horrible crap to say about how bad iPhone was, then they copied the siri app lol i hate that company no offense to Xbox owners, the 360 isn't a bad system its just Microsoft i cant stand there greedy snobby cunt.

blackbeld4088d ago

I think Microsoft is loosing they're grip of reality. They loosing battle on every front from phones to operating systems. Except for office 2010 great software btw.

In other words Microsoft is run by teenagers with bold heads.

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zeee4088d ago

I think they are right. As entertainment console, 360 has the edge but when it comes to GAMING console, you know, the reason I bought both 360 and PS3, I find Playstation 3 much... MUCH better.

mayberry4088d ago

Sony doesnt showcase the PS3's superior sound output either, imho. True digital optic 7.1 surround sound only on the PS3.

pixelsword4088d ago

The Myans predicted the end of the world December 26, 2012 but with calendar adjustments it's actually February 20, 2013; and they were talking about the end of a certain type fanboy's world.

Let the apoc4ypse begin.

RumbleFish4088d ago

The Mayans didn't see anything coming. Not even the spanish!

EVILDEAD3604088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Heres my honest opinion as someone who loves both my Xbox 360 and my PS3 for entertainment.

Forget the PR stuff as both of em are taking shots at each other.

If you are strictly talking physical entertaimnent SONY wins handsdown for the Blu-ray. Plus I've always been a huge fan of the music player. Throw a CD in and nobody is touching that Earth Screen saver.

If you are talking in the digital space then MS wins handsdown. The content on Live is like 3 times as much. Especially if you are a fan over music, when Xbox music, Last FM, and I heart radio are all great. But when it comes to sheer entertainment apps..My god. It's not even a contest.

Overall, it's all in what you like.

I love the internet now through smart glass, Youtube, The news stations, HBO GO, Gamespot and IGN TV, NBA through Live.

I love the NFL Pass, the 3D movie selection, the alternate way to view my Netflix menu, and I honestly used to be obsessed with the PSN Store.

At the end of the day, it honestly depends on what your system of preference is. If your on Xbox Live every day you tend to grab more content from there and vice versa for the PS3.

But, I'd say if you didn't pay for alot of Blu-Ray movies then MS has a point.

But, I couldn't live without either one.

Next gen will be interesting though.

Evil

TheBeastX4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

the Ps3 doesn't have any shooters that have such lighting and animations like halo4, or even as remotely as top selling, and that's a fact! NOTHING!

and the last of us and two souls are coming in way too late, and they look dated anyways. by the time these games come out preorders for new hardware will made, and then they will both be conflicting with their sales.

and for the record the 360 had a way better launch than the vita!!

Moentjers4088d ago

I just want a new GAME console. I have a computer/iPad/even a stereo for radio to have my entertainment. On a GAME console I want to play games. So MS Just call it XMediaBox and STFU.

MaxXAttaxX4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

It streams Netflix in 1080p. It outputs sound in 7.1 optical and HDMI. It plays Blu-ray movies.
But Sony doesn't constantly tout that. They seem to focus more on gaming overall, whereas Microsoft is really heavy on the "entertainment" part. I think they're using the Xbox to infiltrate different markets with minimal focus on gaming.

GribbleGrunger4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Wow, look at all those disagrees. This is really hurting the 360 fanboys in ways I have never seen before. Why? It's just another console.

MysticStrummer4088d ago

I'll be forwarding this story to all my gaming friends who bought 360s, then got rid of them in favor of PS3s. Apparently they aren't included in "everybody".

lol @ all the above disagrees from the 360 fans. Your cover is blown, and I never again want to read any of you claiming that N4G is dominated by PS3 fans. Too funny.

MS really does look desperate with that quote, no matter who in the company said it.

Good times.

Ares84HU4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

People say that n4g is full of Sony fanboys. Look at this shit. This article is a joke. How is the 360 better? When it comes down to which system is better you have to look at the exclusives because that is the only thing that makes the difference. The exclusives on PS3 are far better and there are far more than on the 360. Yet when people point this fact out they get more disagrees than agrees. How many AAA exclusives will the 360 have this year?? I haven't heard of a single one. It's all about kinect and casual play on the 360 for the past two years.

N4G is full of Sony Fanboys???? Look at all the disagrees from 360 fanboys! Far more 360 fans on this site. I don't want Anyone claim that this site is full of sony fanboys after this.

TheRealSpy4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

This is a troll article and the person that chose to make this the headline is a completely POS. Don't you idiots get tired of voicing the same tired opinions about your favorite console? NOBODY cares what you think about 360 or ps3. You can sit there and say "but but psn is free and blah blah."

yeah? good for you. I'm still going to play and enjoy my xbox AND my ps3. GROW UP!

insomnium24088d ago

Like gribble, mystic and ares said this news really proves how much of a PS3 fanboy driven site this is.

Even perfectly sane and truthfull comments get almost 50/50 ratio for agrees.

Look at patterson's and blitz's comment's disagrees. Am I seeing things or did they actually get way more disagrees?

also @ evil

"Forget the PR stuff as both of em are taking shots at each other"

So here we are once again trying hard to make all companies look the same. If Sony lies 2 times and MS lies 10 times then MS is 5 times bigger idiot. You simply cannot run with this "oh they both do it" attitude and expect it to stick. That's BS and you do it ONLY because MS is the one with the most cheap shots. We would never hear the end of it if it was Sony doing it.

JamieL4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

@ all the PS3 trolls above, saying "I don't want to hear this is a PS3 fanboy and PS3 ego-petting haven", Yes it is. Did you ever for one second think that these disagrees could have come from anyone who thinks trolls are a joke. Any comment with that number of disagrees is just plain fanboy propaganda, or someone spouting slogans. Every comment that happen to was fanboy garbage plain and simple. This does not "PROVE" anything like what you're claiming, it just proves not everyone wants to hear that trash. The fact they had as many agree's is much more telling.

Elit3Nick4088d ago

@Ares84HU Seriously are you even looking at the other comments? There are a staggering number of sony fanboys who misinterpret Microsoft's statement as "xbox is better than ps3".

1nsaint4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Lol almost everyone that posted here should be voted down for being immature.
Really guys.. You are defending your console like you're getting paid for it.
Both consoles have their flaws but you guys are even disagreeing with cold hard facts just to defend your console.

Just calm ur tits, they're insulting your console, not your mom

Also, for all you saying: just wait untill the 20th
We don't really know what Sony is announcing on the 20 February, but it seems highly likely that it'll announcement its next-gen PS3 successor, presumed to be called the PS4

Nothing is sure yet though.

Gamer19824088d ago

No sony isnt as good as an entertainment console its a better GAMES console though. Sont doesnt care about Hulu and Netflix, it give consumers that as they want them but it gives gamers games first and foremost. The fact MS said this just shows they are completely out of touch with gamers. Even 360 owners cannot deny this. We buy consoles for games first and foremost and if you dont then your just silly as theres a lot cheaper ways to get the same content your 360 offers you and no live needed to use it!

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Sharingan_no_Kakashi4088d ago

And here comes the pr bullcrap. It took 4 years for them to stop bashing each other this gen. Now they're back at it. Obviously, MS is feeling threatened by all the buzz that Sony has been getting involving their feb 20th conference.

aceitman4088d ago

the bluray player alone makes it better, and u not having to pay to use the same features the 360 has makes it better.the 360 is good but he ps3 is just better. I have them both its my opinion.u can see it in my profile pick.

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CryofSilence4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

@007Bond

The majority of games today (moins PC) are peer-to-peer rather than dedicated servers; therefore, your point is invalid.

Eldyraen4088d ago

@CryofSilence: PSN servers do suck when it comes to download speeds for many people. I have a 30+ download speed and its practically a snail's pace for me no matter if I only have the PS hooked up to my cable modem. Not sure if it has to do with launch PS3 (a friend had similar problems with his), some hardware issue, or simply PSN itself.

My PC can download infinitely faster, my 360 the same, and even my cell phone on wifi can download faster than PS3 hooked up to the modem. It doesn't matter what PSN settings are, its just pathetically bad for me. Granted I download most things over night on it fine but when I bought DC Universe to play with console friends... omg that sucked.

If for some reason download speeds weren't so bad for me I probably wouldn't think so poorly about PSN though as I do like it being free, PS+, and the overall feel of the store. The new look though blows the old out of the water however download speeds are still terrible for me. I just hope when I get a PS4 it was a hardware problem.

RumbleFish4088d ago

I don't think that his point is invalid. Many games I played had match making issues on PS3. That's not peer to peer, that are server issues.

CryofSilence4088d ago

@Eldyraen

Yes, their download servers are pretty slow, but I said games and the act of gaming, not downloading.

THC CELL4088d ago

Ps 3 has crap servers bwhahha. Mag played better than most games on Xbox, Xbox would cripple if u put 128 people in one area and dropped a air strike on them. And why is dust514 a exclusive and the only games that are inferior are the games that bum Xbox call of duty then again I hardly note on my console but its the game most people bitch about been laggy.. Ive had some great times on Xbox live but to say this is too much of a laugh, bwhahha, developers make.a server not Sony unless it's a exclusive.

kenshiro1004088d ago

Crap servers? Right...

And I suppose the ones you pay for on the 360 are any better?

TheRealSpy4088d ago

1) PSN doesn't have the same features.

2) You don't have to tell us that your opinion is your opinion.

@Kratos_Kills: You mean like when FF13 was announced as a multiplat so you all went nuts when FF13 VS was announced as an exclusive? Or do you mean like when PSN went down for a month and as compensation for not encrypting our credit card information we got a couple cheapo games? Or do you mean like when Bioshock finally came to ps3 a year later? and on and on and on...

don't be so immature man. who cares how people react to news? i can't think of anything less interesting. plus, it makes you sound like a hypocrite.

Eldyraen4088d ago

@CryofSilence. The only reason I mentioned psn servers dl speeds was you were you responding to a more general (trollish) comment about servers in general. That and the flamebait article was actually about multimedia and not gaming side of consoles so dl speeds are more important as it does make a differencs in which is "best" for some people (for multimedia purposes). Again its all dependant on connection and whatever is causing all the bottlenecks with Sony's servers for those of us that experience the problem.

I havent had many problems while gaming though (depending on the game which usually gets patched at some point anyways). Its just as you said most games use peed to peer so that isnt a PSN issue anyways. If they fixed download speeds though psn would be much better all around for everyone. Streaming is fine too though which is why I just wish I knew what the issue was as psn really is great otherwise.

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Root4088d ago

This is hilarious

Sony marketed the PS3 when it came out as an entertainment system. I mean thats why blu ray was such a big thing for them at the time

Now that MS is trying to catch up they are saying they are better....come on MS you guys are becoming a tad jealous don't you think

Seriously Microsofts arrogance is going to hurt them next gen, it hurt Sony....least they learnt from their mistakes

dubt724088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

It's hilarious how sonyboys talk about how arrogant MS is when they were the ones defending sony's arrogance before the PS3 came out. Remember Kutaragi? Y'all were suckling at the sony teat! 599 US Dollars!!! Unbelievable...
@root, not so much your comment as the ones earlier in the post. I was just too lazy to scroll all the way back up, lol.

steven83r4088d ago

Ummm ya PS3 was 599 and you got your moneys worth. Bluray was expensive back then. Also 360 was 399. Then 150 for HD Dvd, oh you want Wifi too well that is going to cost you another 50, Memory card readers..dont think so, play files offline off a USB not happening, bluetooth nope! wireless controllers..Nope. Tell me again how PS3 wasn't worth the extra 200.

nirwanda4088d ago

@dubt72 and if it launched on the same day as the 360 it wouldn't have had bluray either at the end of the day if you look how fast gpu tech moves it should have battered the 360 but instead they had to work around it with the cell.

TheRealSpy4088d ago

@steven:
"Tell me again how PS3 wasn't worth the extra 200."

Cuz it didn't have any good games. I waited a year, paid much less, and by then there were some good games for it.

BlackTar1874088d ago

The question is what were the good games 360 had at launch?

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Persistantthug4088d ago

I'd be interested in seeing it for myself.

Muffins12234088d ago

This article title is full of bullshit.." "isn't as good of an entertainment console " as xbox360 " Notice how they dont quote the last part because they did not say that..

Thatguy-3104088d ago

It fills in the gap for the entertainment I need which basically are hulu+ and Netflix. It thrives as a gaming console which is basically the reason I bought it in the first place. Don't want all that extra apps that I won't be using what so ever.

MGS_fanatico_4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Oh, Mehdi... What have you done!?

http://25.media.tumblr.com/...

shutUpAndTakeMyMoney4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

yes it is kaz as superman. Starts of behind and with and iron fist still ends up in front!! Just like ps3!

Know I really believe the ex exec who said they only want to stop sony.

"PS3 now the top device for Netflix streaming to a TV
Even outstrips PC viewing at times "
http://www.techradar.com/us...

MS so mad and scared.. They thought sony was gonna wait for e3.

This is awsome why? It's like to e3s!! PS4 now and ps4 later nice.

It will be a big show. They just booked a ballroom that holds 2,800 people.
http://www.psxextreme.com/p...

And now sony has the new marketing team who are ex google chrome marketing team headed by creator of Halo 3 Believe + Gears 2 Rendezvous campaign.
http://gamrconnect.vgchartz...

They are good.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

showtimefolks4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

oh yeh its starting and we are months away from launch or even E3

its gonna be a fun ride

Offtopic:

VTW the advertisement firm sony just hired did a lot of work for MS and did the campaign for Halo 3 lol

this is gonna be a fun time to just sit back and watch the PR war. I like how sony's side is fighting back lol

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

remember this lol

you are hurting my elbow he says in the end lol.

i want to see more advertisement like that, imagine kratos standing outside MS offices and calling out master chief lol

sorry about all the LOL's, i am actually laughing since watching the crash commercial

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Chris5584088d ago

I guess microsoft's jimmys are rustled

kenshiro1004088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

I love the silly PR talks. Microsoft is running around like a chicken with its head cut off.

IAmLee4088d ago

Does this really matter?
People can slag off each console, but in the end it all comes down to personal preference. I prefer the ps3, due to its exclusive, where as others prefer xbox for halo and shit.
Don't see much point in sparking a riot over something as pointless as this..

Tonester9254088d ago

I remember when the PS3 was released and Microsoft was criticizing the PS3 on how it was just for entertainment and not for gaming. I'm sure they're biting their tongue off lol

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Foolsjoker4088d ago

Yeah, because I love watching Blurays on my 360...

PeZuS4088d ago

So...PS3 has more Netflix use, Blu-Ray, 7.1 DTS Master-Audio support and it goes on. Meanwhile, you have to pay a yearly price just to unlock most of the entertainment features on 360.

RuleofOne343 4088d ago

Does it bother you that people prefer to pay for something than be a welfare recipient or expect things for free or given away.

poopsack4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

So every PS3 and PC user is a welfare recipient, because thats what getting access to the internet you already paid for is, receiving welfare.

one2thr4088d ago

Better yet, to support the only gaming platform that has its customers/gamers pay to use their very OWN bandwidth... Yet thats right Witwicky your paying to use YOUR OWN BANDWIDTH to use/access Xbox Live... Sad reality, yes?

PeZuS4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

@wit: Some great "wit" you've got there. So because we don't have to pay we are "welfare recipients". Amazing analogy, almost this-will-go-down-in-history-b ooks amazing

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poopsack4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Sillyyyyy.

MasterCornholio4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Correction

"Yeah, because I love watching HD-DVDs on my 360..."

LOL remember what happened to the accessory and the format?

mr_kubrick4088d ago

Yeah watching 1080p mp4 on xbox is fun and working like a charm.
Who cares buying BluRays when u can play downloaded HD-Files on the xbox?

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Snookies124088d ago

Wow Microsoft, wow... *shakes head*

LackTrue4K4088d ago

dam....this is like the 3rd articals about MS, trolling Sony. Are they really that shallow??
is that there strategy?? just down talking Sony??
lol...

yavorsv4088d ago

M$ trolls $ony trolls Nintendo

UltraVegito4088d ago

Console warz 2 is around the corner.

Find your nearest popcorn stand now.

DonFreezer4087d ago

Wow PS3 fanboys, wow *shakes head*

Snookies124087d ago

What in the world does this have to do with PS3? I certainly didn't say anything about Sony. It's just idiotic and way too arrogant to claim something like this on Microsoft's part. A little trash talking I'm okay with between competition, but to blatantly say that EVERYONE knows they're better than competition is completely stupid and Microsoft employees should think a little more next time before saying something like that again.

Which is better solely depends on OPINION, so no, not EVERYONE knows it's better...

Chaostar4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Sony: Your overconfidence is your weakness.

MS: Your faith in exclusives is yours.

http://i.minus.com/ipfT6X7q...

LOGICWINS4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

Either way you slice it, both the figureheads at Sony and Microsoft were jackasses at some point. Sony in 2006 and Microsoft now. Sure hope Microsoft learns to swallow that humble pie like Sony did.

Gaming_Guru4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

You do realize a company will never say their product is not as good as the competitor's. I just don't understand why people thought Sony was arrogant and now think Microsoft is, hate the game not the player.

This is why we have journalists to filter what is bullshit versus what is truth. Would you tell your potential customers to go to the competitor's while you lose money?

LOGICWINS4088d ago

"You do realize a company will never say their product is not as good as the competitor's."

Of course, but companies CAN neglect to talk about their competitor's all together if they choose too.

rainslacker4088d ago

@Gaming

true, but they don't have to outright bash them...and that goes for all sides of the fence. It's one thing to say your better, and quite another to prove it. Talk up your console, and leave the other out of it. There are enough fan boys to do the dirty work for these companies, and it's better they stay above it.

Snookies124088d ago

That link gave me a good lol. :]

Chaostar4088d ago

Thank you, I was worried that my obviously light-hearted comment was being taken too seriously when I saw the disagrees piling up.

-Mika-4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

That true. PS3 does have essentials apps like Netflix and Hulu but it also missing stuff like the HBO,Comcast and TMZ apps. MS really did turn the 360 into the ultimate entertainment console in these 7 years it been on the market. Hopefully next gen, sony isn't playing catch up and it has it own unique and innovative ideas of it own.

Omar914088d ago

lol 23 agrees for a dot. lmao thats awesome

DarkBlood4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

lol what can i say i try my best :P

NameRemoved00174088d ago

Yes but you have to pay extra $ for Hbo, Comcast and TMZ. Why watch something on your xbox that you already pay a fee for a dedicated cable box for.

Codeman4204088d ago

THANK YOU FINALLY SOMEBODY SAYS IT!!!!!

Enemy4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

The more apps, the more subscriptions. So, on top of having to pay the annual subscription fee for Xbox Live, you have to pay the additional fee for each app. At least PSN is free, and the optional PSN+ gets you free games every month.

@ below: And you're paying for Xbox Live which gets you what for free? I'll answer for you, actually; nothing at all.

ALLWRONG4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

hdshatter but you don't mind paying for those "free" games you have to pay for do you?

The mind of a PS fanboy = "ha ha you pay for Live! now excuse me while I go pay for my rental service"

Skips4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

^^^

LMAO, the free games aren't the ACTUAL service we're paying for smart one. The service is cloud saving, automatic updating while you sleep, early access to beta's, 1 hour full game time trials, discounted and FREE DLC's etc.

The free games are just bonuses. Pretty effing damn sweet bonuses if you ask me.

DigitalRaptor4088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

ALLWRONG, are you special?

PS+ is a subscription service for access to games. "Free games" is a figure of speech, and it goes without saying that a subscription service isn't free. Yet you keep repeating "it's not free" like we don't actually know that. Highly amusing.

So, PS+ is a SINGLE barrier to entry, and will ALWAYS be optional. PS+ is also about MUCH more than "free games", but as an Xbox fanboy you might not know that.

XBL is a subscription service, but you have to pay for that subscription service to get access to services that you also pay subscriptions for: Netflix, ESPN et al. That's a DUAL(!!!) barrier of entry, which quite frankly is completely disrespectful to a consumer base and should be illegal. Do Microsoft care?? Ha! Most sane people would say that's bad enough, but Microsoft also put a barrier of entry before basic P2P online play that (if you know how that works) is another "what the hell, how can they get away with charging for that?" moment.

But Microsoft just don't care. They just want to pad out "value" to their service even to the cost of their consumers. If you can't see the difference, you might just need help.

Next generation is going to be very telling indeed, and with comments like this you can tell it's just baseless damage control against the buzz for the upcoming Sony press event that will have the Internet buzzing even more.

BlueTemplar4088d ago

@allwrong

The mind of an xbox fanboy - mocking people for paying for a service where they get games they dont already have, while happily paying to rent the multiplayer portion OF GAMES THEYVE ALREADY PAID FOR

The hypocrisy astounds me.

THEDON82z14088d ago

Right I don't own a home theatre system for nothing!!! f@@k Microsoft!!!!

rezzah4088d ago

@ALLWRONG

Your name suits you well.

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wolokowoh4088d ago

And PS3 has all the sports packages, both have Amazon instant video but PS3 had it first, and a lot of other stuff(country dependent) to counter 360. It doesn't matter. They can keep going back and forth but what matters is games and Microsoft needs to invest more in that next gen. How about a new Killer Instinct from Rare instead of generic Kinect titles. As long as Microsoft markets it, it will sell.

Heisenburger4088d ago

T.....M....Z....

S.....M....H....

omi25p4088d ago

You cant speak the truth on N4G's so dont bother.

Hicken4088d ago

So if I speak the truth and say you shouldn't have to pay a DIME to a console maker to play the online portion of your game, is that something that shouldn't be allowed here on N4G?

Should I not say Sony is showing the PS3 more support than the 360 is getting from Microsoft at this late stage of the generation?

I imagine those are truths you'd rather not know, huh?

Bladesfist4088d ago

@Hicken I don't think you understand that word. True truth has to be a fact and not change from person to person.

Pillsbury14088d ago (Edited 4088d ago )

@ bladefist TRUTH: Sony released more exclusives than Microsoft last year, FACT.

dcbronco4088d ago

Pillsbury1

Truth, non of them really sold many copies. Silent trees buddy.

And poor Hicken. Nice to see you haven't given up the fight to determine how other people spend their money.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv7220h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18814h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio4h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Cacabunga6h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff21835h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga4h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan30m ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

purple1019h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos8h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

XBManiac8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1017h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic5h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 16h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 14h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 11h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 4h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 6h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 2h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 14h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows9023h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

Profchaos1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 15h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 15h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 12h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 14h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 13h ago (Edited 1d 13h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 14h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10112d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai12d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate11d ago (Edited 11d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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