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Reality Check: There’s a Strong Chance We’ll Have a PS4 and Xbox 720 A Year From Now

Kotaku
We talk to people. It's part of our job. And lately we're not hearing any big bombshells about the next generation of game consoles, but we're hearing the same buzz we've been hearing all year: the next generation of Xbox and PlayStation are right around the corner.

The vibe I get when I hear about Durango is that Microsoft is on the mark. Sony appears to inspire less confidence, though I've had a hard time nailing down why and discerning how much lost confidence is due to the on-and-off troubles of the PlayStation 3 and the struggles of the Vita vs. how much lost confidence is due to any problems looming for PS4. What I do know is that confidence is high that the next Xbox will be out in time for next Christmas. Confidence is less high that Sony will pull off the same feat, though they want to.

wishingW3L4152d ago

we'll know for real in 5-6 months anyway.

I_LOVE_MYSELF4152d ago

I have a strong feeling that new consoles will be announced. I need them to be announced now so I can enjoy my PS3 for a couple of years and ease into next gen at a price drop. I don't want to be bored of this gen and feel the need to buy a next gen console at launch.

Y_51504152d ago

That's werid...
You say that you are bored of this generation but you can last a couple more years of this generation? Read what you post please.

I_LOVE_MYSELF4152d ago

I said I want to enjoy my PS3 for a couple more years meaning I won't be bored. If a new console isn't released by the end of those years then I will be bored. Learn to read properly, please.

ABizzel14151d ago

Kotaku trolling Sony once again. Surprise, surprise.

"The vibe I get when I hear about Durango is that Microsoft is on the mark. Sony appears to inspire less confidence, though I've had a hard time nailing down why and discerning how much lost confidence is due to the on-and-off troubles of the PlayStation 3 and the struggles of the Vita vs. how much lost confidence is due to any problems looming for PS4. "

What the F()@# does PS3 and Vita have to do with Sony's or anyone's confidence in the PS4. MS and Sony are rumored to be using practically the EXACT same GPU, most likely the EXACT amount of RAM, the EXACT same media format Blu Ray, thus the only difference being the CPU in which case MS's should be the more powerful (but Kinect 2 will eat some of that power) while Sony's is better for games and graphics which is the selling point of a VIDEO GAME console.

This is beyond ignorant to me. Both companies are suppose to be using off the shelf products besides MS CPU which is why MS is the unlikely company to launch 2013 because they're supposedly having problems developing and mass manufacturing the CPU.

SONY IS BUYING OFF THE SHELF AMD-A10's. WHY IN THE HE!! WOULD THEY HAVE PROBLEMS LAUNCHING WITH OFF THE SHELF PRODUCTS.

It makes no sense. Sometimes a tiny bit of critical thinking goes a long way.

"What I do know is that confidence is high that the next Xbox will be out in time for next Christmas. Confidence is less high that Sony will pull off the same feat, though they want to."

Of course confidence is high at MS. They want to get the Nextbox or Xbox 1080 (thanks Kotaku reader for that one) out by the end of the year, so they don't have to miss holiday sales, and they don't give Sony a head start, so they're doing everything they can to get the CPU running and into production. SOny on the other hand has nothing to worry about because AMD has all their stuff taken care of (if the AMD rumors are true).

ABizzel14151d ago (Edited 4151d ago )

Then he wraps up with:

"But is there room for both against a year-old Wii U, potential Valve-backed hardware and the generally-resurgent PC and the presumed iPad 5 and other tablets of Christmas 2013?"

Wii-U will have no effect on gamers who are looking for PS3 and Xbox exclusives, and if the PS4 and Xbox 1080 are superior to the Wii-U as the article states then HD gamers are going to pass on the Wii-U until it gets a larger enough library of core games, and a price where it's a must buy.

And as far as PC goes, that's going to hurt Xbox a lot more than it will PlayStation because, PC and Xbox share nearly 90% of the same library, where as Sony can still count on it's vast amount of exclusives to entice the PC gamers.

iPad 5 isn't going to do anything. It may cut into sales a bit just because people will choose to buy it, but GAMERS are going to buy a games console or a PC, not a iPad.

"What happens if Sony slips to 2014?"

EXTREMELY UNLIKELY. MS is more likely to slip. The only way Sony slips to 2014 is if they want to give the PS3 another full year of games, but seeing how all their big exclusives are scheduled for the first half of 2013 I seriously doubt that's going to happen.

"Through all of this, what if the impressive console-market-leading momentum that the 360 has had for two years continues... and people don't feel the need for new consoles? What if game-makers feel the need to keep making games for the 360/PS3/WiiU standard not just through 2013 but into 2014 and 2015, too?"

"Console-market-leading momentum that the 360 has had for two years continues." I'm not even going to comment on that. As for the rest, it happens all the time. Developers who can't afford to move to the next generation will continue to develop for Xbox 360, PS3, Wii-U. That's why Sony can say their console will have a 10 year life cycle. It's also why MS says they want the Xbox 360 to last for 10 years now, and it's what the Wii-U is banking on if the PS4 and Xbox 1080 turn out to be powerhouse consoles. Games will continue being made for the PS360 well into 2015 and possibly into 2016 and beyond, until budgets are lowered and tools make developing easier (although it should be easy since they're both practically PC's).

However, the big third party developers like EA, Activision, Ubisoft, Kojima Productions, Capcom, Square Enix, and more will be moving on the to PS4 and Xbox 1080, and those developers / publisher control the success of a console (along with first party). If they're not making games for your console you're not going to succeed unless you a casual gaming device like Cell Phones and Tablets.

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ritsuka6664152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

Sony not learned anything from this generation?

If they're releasing PS4 in Autumn 2014, then they have to absolutely be praying that the new Xbox is specifically, only targeting the casual/Kinect crowd and PS4 can come out as the hardcore console gamer choice. I rally don't see how else they survive next gen.

caseh4152d ago

Uhh yeah, because the PS3 has clearly stuggled this genration hasn't it. I mean to say, if the NextBox releases Halo 5 Sony will clearly be f*cked...

/s

stage884152d ago

The PlayStation brand is stronger than ever. You must live in the USA...
I'd be more worried for Microsoft. When PSN is upgraded MS won't have any features that warrant payment for Live.

Conzul4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

This is quite true, unless Sony bungles and ties too many of its new features into PS+

Megaton4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

The PlayStation brand has never been weaker. Microsoft has spent billions to make "Xbox" the trendy console name, and now it is paying dividends.

Sony became the console king right out the gate, and then continued their dominance with their second offering, the PS2. The PS3 has been a colossal failure by comparison, trailing behind two rivals they easily crushed in the past. The console market was theirs to lose, and lose it they did.

Shaman4152d ago

"The PlayStation brand is stronger than ever"...maybe on N4G it is, but in the real world? I think you need reality check.

Thatguy-3104152d ago

@Megaton
Well if the 360 trailed the PS3 with selling 50+mill more consoles then I would have agreed with you that they fell this year but it didn't. Yes it didn't conquer like it did the past two generations but they kept up with the competition which is Microsoft so they didn't really lose. Think both consoles will release around the same time. Couple of months tops a year I doubt it.

BitbyDeath4152d ago

PS3 have sold 10 million more consoles than 360 if you start from the PS3 launching so it's not really losing.

All a matter of perspective, but that said we should stop playing numbers and just enjoy the games.

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ABizzel14151d ago

The fact of the matter is the PS3 has been outselling the Xbox 360 EVERY YEAR since 2008, hence the reason the 360's 8 million console lead is down to barely 1 million, and at a price that has always been higher than the 360.

The Nextbox is rumored to be more Powerful than the PS4 (simply because it'll need a better CPU to run Kinect 2.0), so it's likely to cost a bit more, unless MS takes a cut and use XBL to replace the loss. But if it cost more then we'll see how things go when the shoe is on the other foot and MS comes out after the PS4 (again another rumor thanks to CPU issues) and with a higher price.

hennessey864152d ago

I'm ready for the next gen consoles now

showtimefolks4152d ago

there is no strong chance let me confirm it for everyone, ps4 will be released in fall of 2013.

ms will try their best to launch same time with ps4 but from rumors you can read that they are having some issue with IBM

i say both will launch around blackfriday 2013

BitbyDeath4152d ago

PS3 games schedule for next year also proves this.

I just hope it launches worldwide at the same time (or close to)

BXbomber4152d ago

amazing....already kotaku claiming sony is doom to fail and xbox will prevail. getting tired of all the love the media gives microsoft.

ALLWRONG4152d ago (Edited 4152d ago )

There is no doom and gloom in the article, just speculation about launches. Let me guess... you must be angry over the comment about the Vita struggling, which it is.

Saigon4152d ago

If I am not mistaken this is what they said:

"The vibe I get when I hear about Durango is that Microsoft is on the mark. Sony appears to inspire less confidence, though I've had a hard time nailing down why and discerning how much lost confidence is due to the on-and-off troubles of the PlayStation 3 and the struggles of the Vita vs. how much lost confidence is due to any problems looming for PS4. "

...and then he mentions the launch.

Saigon4152d ago

I thought I was the only one to notice that...

Who do they talk to when they get there information? The other sites that I have read rumors say the complete opposite. This is why I hate rumor.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218310h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan5h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus234h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10114h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10112h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 10h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken21h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g1d 6h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing1d 6h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H91d 6h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola1d 2h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn6691d 5h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle1d 5h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 19h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 16h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 9h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 11h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 7h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 19h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 5h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 4h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger1h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 21h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 17h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 20h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 19h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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