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Reader Poll: "3D Blu-ray? We'll stick to DVDs, thanks."

PCW: In a recent PC World poll, over 35 per cent of readers claimed they had no interest in Blu-ray whatsoever – and were instead sticking to the DVD format.

With consumers seemingly disinterested in 3D Blu-ray movies and TV networks still dragging their feet, it would seem 3D gaming may be the last bastion of hope for 3D TV. Unfortunately, gamers are amongst the most cynical consumers in the world.

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MariaHelFutura4937d ago

You watch your DVDs, I`ll keep my BR.

Maybe these people want to game in SD too.

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ALFAxD_CENTAURO4937d ago (Edited 4937d ago )

Well, eventually the Blu ray is getting more territory.

Same with 3DTV's is getting territory, same case happened with the 1st HDTVs in the Market. Cassette VHS to CD's etc.

vsr4936d ago

Do you like to record your Valuable Family events on HD Bluray or Standard DVD ?????

Ilikegames764937d ago

people also said that they'll stick to VCD/CD when DVD first came out.

hakis864937d ago

has PC readers - who visit Piratebay, right?

insomnium4937d ago

Excellent comment! Agreed 100%. Bubs up.

internalbit4937d ago

They will have no choice as DVD is eventually phased out like VHS was. They will have to deal with their anger against Bluray and accept it.

AllroundGamer4937d ago

:) i would say those people are also casual gamers with a Wii, so they don't know any better...

Ares84PS34936d ago

Slowly but surley blu-ray will take over from DVD. I can see it in the stores already.

They can't even argue that blu-ray is that much more expensive when I see blu-ray movies for $10 and under. Especially on amazon.com and at Best Buy.

MNicholas4936d ago

Given the types of people who'd vote for DVD such as those who ...

are without HDTV

don't use disc media much (netflix, etc)

don't know what Blu-Ray is (mostly older folks)

are still whining about HD-DVD losing

hate anything remotely connected with Sony or even Japan

... 65% for Blu-Ray is a pretty huge win for the Blu-Ray association.

SaiyanFury4936d ago

Meh, these layabouts can keep DVD. I buy DVDs when I don't have the extra cash for BDs, then again I don't watch a lot of newer movies anyways. I DO, however, use BDs for archiving purposes in backing up my PC's rather large HDDs. I have 3TB worth of space and DVDs just don't cut it for archiving. I bought my BD burner a month ago for 150 bucks and it was absolutely worth it. I'll stick to gaming in HD thanks.

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MinskyM4937d ago

Wow, fanboys still butthurt over Blu-Ray kicking HD-DVD to the trash heap of failed formats.

ALFAxD_CENTAURO4937d ago

No one mention HD DVDs in the article.

HD DVD is buried.

NewsForMe4937d ago

Are you an idiot? This is a PC site, almost none of them even used HD-DVD. Blu-ray just isn't necessary on PC. It already does 3D and good looking games without it.

baker_boi4937d ago

They not talkin about "games" silly goose.

They talkin about movies. What game you know that's been released on Blu-Ray for PC? None.

But movies on the other hand, ripping those Blu-Rays seems to have a large following on da interwebz.

who knows why somebody wants a 17 gig movie on they HDD though. I can't manage that shit.

sak5004936d ago (Edited 4936d ago )

Well the sony force is strong here and keep defending useless formats thrown by sony. I bet they would have defended mini disc, UMD, betamax to death had they been born during that time.

BD is only popular on N4G, rest of the world hasn't embraced 3D nor bluray in massive amounts even with ps3 trojoning it 4 years back.

Hardly any PCs are coming with BDs and forget about DIY market. I recently built my new machine and used LG 24X DL DRW from 3 years back, that too i changed cuz my NEC from 3 years back coudn't burn DL discs properly.

My new pc is:

i5 750 2.8GHZ 4 core 8mb L3 cache , auto CPU Up'd by Asus P55D-E Preimum to 3.8Ghz. 4 GB DDR3 1600mhz. I reinstalled Win 7 on 128GB SSD ADATA and have rest of the drives amounting to 750GB. And same Asus VGA 5870 1GB. NOw why the hell would i buy a bd drive for my PC when i can buy any game on DVD or DL via steam or other means.

MY Movie watching is done on O!play which plays anything from 1080P MKV files ripped from BDs. So either i watch it in my bedroom on 100" projector or in living room on 50" 1080p plasma.

I'm content with these and wont even consider ps3 this gen.

jack_burt0n4937d ago

Bluray is HD standard, deal with it.

Nihilism4937d ago (Edited 4937d ago )

'HD' was never a standard. HD is a term used to describe 720p...a resolution which is below standard, even though it is 'standard' for console gamers.

It just tickles me that the die hard Blu-Ray loyalists are content with gaming in 720p or less, shouldn't you like get a new PC or something...

See the PC screenshot thread in the forums, there is only one 'TrueHD' platform suckers, and Blu-Ray is not required for it.

P.S I have 2 Blu-Ray players...it's not a big deal, they cost less than DVD players did this far into their life yet people seem to think blu-ray player ownership is somehow exclusive. Blu-Ray players: the sports car of the working class.

baker_boi4936d ago (Edited 4936d ago )

Yeah you said all that bullshit, then you busted your argument by sayin, "I got two Blu-ray playerz!"

The hell you got any Blu-ray players for if your mighty PC is the "trueHD" platform?

Oh! Could it be that you're full of shit? Could it be that movie studios release their movies on physical media first?

Could it be that PC guys rip blu-rays so they can play that 17 gig movie on their PC?

I thought PC's magically generated new movies in 1080p? Well, damn I guess I was wrong.

And also, FYI fuck-boy, HD describes resolutions over 480-520p which folks call SD now.

I don't even wanna say nothin bout yo bullshit ass, "HD is not standard, but is a standard that isn't a standard."

da fuck outta here.

zag4936d ago

HD is 720p

TrueHD is 1080p

TrueHD only comes on blu-ray

mastiffchild4936d ago

My PC is fully "HD" on it'/s 28" display monitor while my two TV's are a 40" LG plasma and (720p)an LCD Panny 42" LCD and guess what? I can't tell the difference with my eyes between any of them. I doubt many people would have a clue between 1080 ands b720 on screens under 50" nor so so why the constant "my res is bigger than yours" BS?

@nihilism-we're allo "working class" unless you don't NEED to work to support yourself and your family. All of us.

n4gno4936d ago (Edited 4936d ago )

This dumb troll always came with "bububu 720", he don't understand that pc just change resolution of the game (even tetris can be 1080), but resolution is not always = quality/great graphics, it's just resolution ! (for movies, it's the real deal when you have native hd, with bluray, but for games, if graphics are poor, you can push to 1080 or even higher, it will be just as poor, just more defined)

by the way, nobody's talking about game here, and bluray are 1080P, true hd audio, and the best quality available for movies, deal with it.

"BR isn't catching on for two reasons. Decent sized 1080P TVs (where BR looks best) are too expensive for many people and the actual movies are too expensive."

Tv have never been cheaper than big lcd/plasma now ! it's just a stupid argument (like the price : it's exactly the same thing than dvd history, and bluray sell even better)

"3D has two problems as well. Requiring 3D glasses when everyone knows there is tech out there to do 3D without glasses (Why buy one now when you know this gen of TVs will be replaced in 3-5 years). And again price."

another xfantroll non sens, 3D without glasses don't have the same quality, first, and a poor 20" will cost a lot of money in 2011, so it's not the time for that kind of competition.

IHateYouFanboys4936d ago

@zag: "TrueHD is 1080p"

No, "TrueHD" is simply Sonys marketing term for native 1080p, nothing more. It's not a technical term, it's not a well known and long used resolution term - Sony simply made it up to make people think their HD was better than their competitors HD.

There is SD and there is HD. That's it. Theres no "True HD", there's no "Super Mega Ultra HD". just HD.

An aside: I'm well aware that there are some 'inbetween' resolution terms, but I had to simplify it for n4gs audience.

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cmrbe4937d ago

Its not for mainstream yet anyways but i will get a 3dTV soon as a Xmas present to myself.

Newtype4937d ago

people who did the pool are either really dumb, or damn poor.

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

Companies, particularly public companies like Microsoft, need to grow.

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gold_drake1d 19h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing1d 16h ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake1d 15h ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

JackBNimble18h ago

MS has educated financial advisers, they knew there was little chance to recoup the 70billion just to break even on the Activision deal let alone whatever other nonsense is going on in MS.
This whole thing was to corner the market for leverage.

thesoftware7301d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman1d 15h ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake1d 15h ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus231d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

BehindTheRows1d 15h ago

Has nothing to do with Sony. Stay on topic.

notachance1d 14h ago

once in a while you see someone too invested in their make-believe console war that everything happened has to be connected to said war…

a bit of banter between fans is normal, this crusade you’re doing now isn’t.

Chevalier1d 14h ago

Wow idiotic. You bring up very old closures not that there haven't been recent ones from Playstations, but, seriously stop deflecting. This has NOTHING to do with Playstation.

Does Playstation got $3 trillion behind them and daddies wallet? No they don't so stop making a fool of yourself.

Xbox has never been profitable really and they just keep losing money so between their worst hardware sales, terrible 3rd party sales and now terrible 1st party sales.

Gamepass numbers that are no longer being announced shows their numbers after 3 years of missed targets has flatlined. Plus their recent gains up to 34 million were ONLY because they folded Gold members in too. Absolutely take your idiotic rhetoric out of here. Keep on topic without deflecting.

S2Killinit1d 14h ago

Ayayayay with these xbox/MS excuses.

Reaper22_1d 9h ago

How dare you mention Sony! Everyone here knows when Sony closes a studio and lay off workers it was the right thing to do. Even when they bought Gaikai and fired almost everyone it was the right thing to do.

Gamers can be such hypocrites sometimes.

andy851d 8h ago

Is it? That's revenue not profit. Completely different.

fr0sty23h ago

The earnings call only showcased how dire the situation is... Even with ABK and Bethesda, they still couldn't make enough to keep investors happy, gamepass subs are stagnant, and hardware sales are tanking.

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thesoftware7301d 13h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

Drake,

"this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt."

You are correct that it's not an MS Vs Sony Topic, but when exaggeration and imagination mix from a one-sided social group, similar examples are needed to ground radical thoughts; in this instance, the example was that shutting down 3,4,5, even 6 studios during a restructure/ buyout/acquisition is not some anomaly(it can suck) that has to be dissected or spell doom and gloom.

"But I'm pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. They didn't, and they closed off some studios."

But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue.

"its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case."

The fact that they did make money, kinda throws this out the window, and besides, you don't wake up and say, hey let's close a studio, you look at the output, you look at the dev as a whole, the long term and short term, you weigh it against all other studios and goals, you keep key members, ect..then you close if they are the weakest links...which by MS analysis they were.

Again, I will make a small Sony comparison, just so some of you can understand and see past the bias; Insomniac, ND, and Bungie have made some of the best games ever created, yet Sony saw fit to cut jobs in every of these studios, even tho Insomniac & ND are the biggest producers of PS games, leagues ahead better than Tango and Arkane, yet, they saw cuts, mind you, while being the TOP produces of PS first party. They were told to cut costs, and more jobs may be on the line, and Bungie is being threatened by a hostile Sony takeover. Put that in perspective, as I know that layoffs and dev closures are different, but if the best of the best is getting cut off, it is less than surprising, that lesser studios are closing.

@Cheva,
My response fits well with your comments as well. You even went on to prove that the dev closures are not just due to A/B acquisition. Then you point out Sony has less money than MS, inferring that MS should keep devs open that they see as lesser earners, while Sony having less money makes it okay to close them. lol...it doesn't work that way.

gold_drake1d 12h ago

im not reading all of that. u have ur opinion, i have mine.

thats rly it.

but this aint sony vs ms.

ApocalypseShadow1d 12h ago

You're trying to compare a 100 billion company to a company that has 3 TRILLION worth. SIE has to live or die on their own. And in turn, PlayStation has helped the main company again and again. Sony has to balance out what is working and not working in the company.

While Xbox has Daddy Warbucks footing the bill to keep the platform afloat. They have been bleeding money from Nvidia hardware in the OG Xbox, the RROD fiasco, the attempted 2013 DRM nonsense and the lies about being the most powerful console in the world and the losses of paying out millions to prop up a service hoping it catches on with enough subscribers to justify its existence.

They're not comparable if Xbox isn't allowed to live or die by its actions. It's subsidized. Revenue isn't profit. And if they were profiting on their own, they wouldn't be closing developers. If they were profiting, they wouldn't need Daddy Warbucks spending 80 to 100 billion buying up 3rd party publishers to sustain a loss leading platform.

They stopped announcing game sales, stopped announcing hardware sales, stopped announcing game pass subscribers, they are putting games on their competitors platforms but you're telling us that they are doing great even after killing jobs and closing developers at Xbox.

Stop drinking the Kool aid. You're drunk.

Chevalier1d 3h ago

Again at which point did Playstation have a $3 trillion company shift the market with a giant purchase?

"But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue."

Lol. No they didn't. Increased revenue was ONLY due to adding Activision Blizzard revenue in. Growth was only 1 percent. It's idiots like you that have no idea what they're talking about is why Xbox isn't better than it is. You guys just make excuses continually.

If Xbox got so much profit then why did they stop announcing hardware numbers? Why did they stop announcing Gamepass numbers? Oh right because they're NOT profitable. Their sales in every category has dropped off the face of the planet. It's why Spencer will be closing more studios and canceling upcoming projects too.

The Wood19h ago

How can they be profitable when they're not selling enough hardware, software or subs. You need take a seat on this one my friend unless you can prove you angles

jwillj2k418h ago

Sony didnt shut down the studios you mentioned after they made last of us or ratchet and clank or destiny. Cutting jobs is not equal to closing studios. Sony cuts are a candle in the sun of Microsoft’s closures.

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WelkinCole1d 8h ago

I am pretty sure MS knew this would happen and this was part of their plan. I mean if anyone with half a brain can see this happening I am pretty sure a multi billion company like MS knew this would happen

The whole strategy in buying Beth and Acti/Blizzard is for

1. Buy established games they can have under xbox because they have done a horrible job in building their portfolio internally for the past 15 years

2. Following from 1, try and boost xbox competitivenss against a dominat PS which MS after 3 tries still can't crack

3. Follolwing from 2, try and weaken Playstation dominance by taking out these massive multiplats from the PS

4. Following from 3, try and profit off from the PS domiance with selected games they will still have on the PS to make money like COD

5. Obviously get the IP's by buying them instead of creating them which again as I mentioned in number 1 they have been woeful in doing

None of these had anyting to do with keeping all the devs they accuried. MS has always been very shitty to Devs under them. Look at what happned to Bungie for example.

I believe MS in court truely mean it when they said they had to do something because PS was just too dominant. This was their last roll of the dice.

And from the looks of things. It has not panned out as MS had hoped. PS5 is still as dominant as ever and xbox is still behind. Worse still their MP's they got is not irreplaceable as they thought. Starfield? lol!. There have not been any major shift in momentum in this console war in their favor so now its time to start cutting their loses and it starts with the most expensive cost for any company. People.

Michiel19891d 5h ago

for a comparison, sony laid of a bigger % of it's staff this year than ms, it's what companies sadly do nowadays. If you think with GP and Bethesda + acti aquisition they were looking for quick cash, you couldn't be more wrong. It hasn't even been a year, "they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen." shows you have 0 understanding of how a business operates.

thesoftware73017h ago

@ Michiel1989

Exactly this!

I'm reading these comments, and it's mesmerizing how off-base most of them are.

I posted a few comments above, and their rebuttals have nothing to do with the points that I presented; when they start doing that, I just ignore them because, at that point, they're debating all over the place.

Profchaos23h ago

30 more like 70 to 80 plus 7 for Bethesda

Tzuno18h ago

meanwhile everything turned woke an inevitably went downward, i'd say it serves them well if they promote such kind of approach, mwuahahahahahhh!

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anast1d 16h ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor1d 15h ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows901d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

Einhander19721d 14h ago

The better question is why did Microsoft buy publishers for a service they were subsidizing they knew couldn't support.

And why are so many websites trying to make people feel sorry for Microsoft instead of truly criticizing the fact they are closing studios and killing jobs that would have been fine if Microsoft themselves hadn't gotten involved.

Quit feeling sorry for Microsoft and start feeling sorry for the industry and the all the gamers who are actually losing out.

THIS IS MICROSOFTS FAULT.

RNTody1d 14h ago

The first thing that happens after any major acquisition or merger is a consolidation of the whole new portfolio, which includes cutting any excess, bloat or portfolios that don't fit the larger MO of the big boy. So far, it's been par for the course with Microsoft and that's why gamers have been so against this acquisition. Tango Gameworks is the beginning. You think Microsoft wants to pay to keep small timers like Ninja Theory in business?

There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Microsoft will improve any of these studios, but plenty to suggest that they will get rid of what they don't need and hold onto the IP. The real agenda of the acquisition was always to acquire The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Fallout, Call of Duty, Candy Crush etc. that will create millions in passive revenue stream for Microsoft regardless of where the games release. Microsoft simply wants their cut.

Because of Games Pass Microsoft has no interest in investing in new IP which is risky and requires creative talent they can neither nurture nor manage. Game Pass has also not grown in the way Microsoft expected it to, even post acquisitions. Therefore the logical thing to do, without serious money makers to release, is to cut as much cost as possible.

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