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PS3 3D has moments of awesome, moments of disappointment

Love it or hate it, 3D is coming to the living room. It may be just a passing trend; it may seem gimmicky to some; and it may even cause “involuntary movements,” “confusion,” “loss of awareness,” or “convulsions” (per Samsung’s 3D TV disclaimer). However, the consumer electronics industry is convinced that 3D is the wave of the future, and after getting to delve into Sony’s preliminary slate of stereoscopic 3D games on the PS3, I have to say there’s a reason for all this excitement but also a reason for the skepticism.

Joule5040d ago

Don't worry 3D is only getting started.;)

StanLee5040d ago

Exactly. It's in its infancy. I will say that Sony is doing more than anyone else with 3D technology and being pioneers instead of adopters.

Conloles5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

Errr heard of Nvidia? Yeah probably not (because they have the superior product) and they have been doing 3D in 1080P since 2008!

@DARKN4IKON

Yes but we're talking about 3D which everyone here will be claiming (eg StanLee) Sony are pioneers - pfft. Everyone on this site will go claiming Sony invented it and Sony's is the best when it is far from it.

D4RkNIKON5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

We aren't talking about Nvidia and your L337 rig...

DigitalAnalog5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

You and whose army?

Right, only the "Alienware" rig users..... my gosh, 3D on Unreal Engine 3. Must be painful for the eyes. I'm pretty sure you're viewing N4G in 3D 1080P now as we speak.

-End statement

mastiffchild5040d ago

I'd love to be able to have a go at the 3D but til the glasses go it's not a possibility. I can't even wear shades when it's really sunny because wearing any kind of glasses just gives me a headache after two or three minutes.

Besdies that two of our kids and the missus wear glasses as it is and they're pretty robust yet STILL get broken every other week and as a coupkle of that threesome throw controllers in a fit of pique the 3D glasses would be dead a lot more! Also they'd get lost and we'd need SIX pairs(you get by with a couple for games but you'd want the films etc for the oputlay wouldn't you?)to begin with! Even at more expensive set costs I see glasses free 3D as less long term costly than a never ending supply of blood glasses that I can't even join in with!

Sooooo, soooo gutted it's gone the glasses route and I couldn't care less about looking daft but I'm not willing to take migraines and yet more breakable bloody peripherals as I already spend a mint on new controllers , etc, every other week! So, impressive or not, I can't buy into any of this til the glasses are gone and that could be YEARS away.

Might still be a gimmick, however, as at the prices quoted for 3D sets I can't see many who just moved to HD even thinking about this for more than a nano second. Not going to get off to a flier even if it eventually sticks even if the glasses aren't most people's issue with all this. Surely everyone else sees the drawback of kids plus fragile 3D specs, no?

sikbeta5040d ago

3D is Awesome and Definitely is Here to stay...

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MNicholas5040d ago

but not with glasses.

I'll wait a few years until Sony reveals their OLED multi-layer 3D TV that has a 160 degree viewing angle.

bloop5040d ago

Agreed. You'd have to be crazy to run out and buy a 3D tv now.

MNicholas5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

bills, child-support, alimony, charity, retirement, or whatever else people spend on these days.

Early adopters, though, tend not to let these kinds of things get in their way. Hence I'm a big fan.

A friend of mine (in who's company I invested) is about to release a product that's aimed straight at the early adopters. Don't let those idiot analysts get you down.

There's a ton of opportunity in any market under any conditions. You just have to be careful where you aim.

Legosz5040d ago

My science teacher from school saves up loads of money every year, he bought himself a 3D TV and says it is amazing. I have no idea if he has a PS3 or anything but I would imagine he probably has a bluray player.

So yes, if someone has the money why not. I myself would buy one but I still rather wait until there is actual 3D channels on TV and etc.

Ju5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

[alimony] hmpf...lol. Somebody didn't pay attention, huh. Live's a b!tch.

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divideby05040d ago

its just the start...wait till this time next year....hopefully the TV prices will drop

erathaol5040d ago

Personally I kind of wonder how a game like Flower would do running in 3D. Would it be horridly convoluted to a point of discomfort or beautifully intricate to a point of admiration.

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NateNater5040d ago

Well it looks like the moments of awesomeness outnumber the moments of disappointment here

Cloudberry5040d ago

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From the article :

"All in all, 3D gaming on the PS3 is something to marvel.

Those who have complained about having to wear glasses most likely have not tried it out yet.

Playing console video games is all about tuning out your surroundings and becoming immersed in the virtual world on the TV in front of you, so wearing glasses quickly drops away as any sort of annoyance or nuisance.

Content is still in its infancy stage, but given how impressive this small smattering of downloadable games looks in 3D, it’s not something to easily dismiss."

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The article also rated the 3D games, based on what I'm reading :

Good 3D games ->
* Motorstorm: Pacific Rift Demo.
* Super Stardust HD.
* Wipeout HD.

Bad / least good 3D games ->
* Pain.
* MLB 2010 The Show demo.

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Looking forward to the 3D impressions of Motorstorm Apocalypse, Killzone 3, etc.

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MorganX5040d ago

I think it's the nature of 3D since the 50's. Moments of awesome, moments of disappointment. I felt the same about Avatar. I don't think that will change.

BYE5040d ago (Edited 5040d ago )

I don't get it, 3D is 3D, where is the place for disappointment?

That's like saying the color red is disappointing.

raztad5040d ago

disappointment because sometimes the 3D effects are not clear. Besides Pain (I dont know what this game even exists) it seems retroffiting 3D has been very positive for Sony games.

I would add some games like SuperStarDust HD got better resolution and framerate as a side effect. It's pretty cool.

BYE5040d ago

OK, that sounds like technological problems, but Morgan said 3D in its nature has moments of disappointment. As far as I'm concerned that's logically not possible, is it.

I'll explain it further, if you have an lcd screen with poor red levels, you can say the red on this screen is disappointing. But you can't say the color red in general is a disappointing color, or water being wet is disappointing, it's just a description.

MorganX5040d ago

What I mean is that people have always expected 3D to wow them. That it will be the end of 2D. It's really cool when it works, but becomes disappointing when you realize it's not going to change things as much as you thought. With each technical generation 3D comes back and is supposed to change everything. This generation we have powerful consoles, TVs, and Bluray. It will be awesome at moments, and disappointing, as it has since the red/blue glasses of the 50s.

Avatar has some really awesome scenes, but in the end, the 3D wore off quickly and it was a formulaic Saturday afternoon show. Then Alice was awesome, Clash of the Titans disappointing. meh, 3d. Good to have the option, but I think it will remain the same until there's 3D without glasses. Great but not super, will remain a niche.

Starlight5040d ago

It's fine. I mean, anyone could realise that Sony's 3D Collection on the PSN Store are games not built from the ground-up for 3-D as the writer illustrates through his words. However, games built from the ground up for 3D like Crysis 2, FIFA 11, Killzone 3 etc, will absolutely blow you away.

I haven't played with this 3-D thing but I think it could be quite nifty and if there is anybody that is going to push forward new tech to us, it's going to be Sony.

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos21h ago(Edited 21h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers18h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos3h ago(Edited 2h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken4h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g14h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing13h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H914h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola10h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66913h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle12h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 6h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 5h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 4h ago (Edited 1d 4h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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