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11mins Of New Natal Footage

Ironstar: "Project Natal was displayed during the D8 conference. Microsoft's motion sensing camera will certainly be the talk of E3, as it will compete with Sony's perspective of motion gaming, PlayStation Move."

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Hallmark Moment5076d ago ShowReplies(8)
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cool cole5076d ago

I find it funny how the Xbox girl keeps going on about the Xbox and its games and whatever else, and the other lady is like "K we don't care about that".

krisq5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

...doing presentation about Natal? Now I'm worried as a gamer :/.

ThanatosDMC5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

It's gonna be flooded with wii-like games and probably PS Move too... unless there's some sort of quality control.

GrooveChampion5076d ago

Are you worried because women shouldn't be around videogames? :P
Or are you worried because of how Microsoft is positioning Natal?

mikeslemonade5076d ago

The woman should slim down a bit. She would be diggity!

CoxMulder5076d ago

Dang!! That must've been the most boring video on N4G ever..

I demand 11 minutes of my life back!!

capital1player5076d ago

come on...i dont wanna play no FU(k!ng soccer in a video game, i can go outside and do that! what i wanna play is some nice shooters like call of duty or battlefield..not some retarded childish games!!!

smoothdude5076d ago

Wow, 9 minutes of talking and less than 2 minutes of Natal. I can't believe how boring this is.

zeeshan5075d ago

Did anyone else notice how the M$ rep asked the dude to move away? How she had absolutely NO answer to a simple question (what if everybody started to scream) and how BADLY it kept lagging? I mean OH MY GOD! How old is this footage? If it's a recent one then I can safely say that M$ has a product that has FAIL written all over it!

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ThatCanadianGuy5076d ago

WTF kind of video player is that? Could barely see anything.
Anyways, pretty lame footage.The kid wasn't into it at all and the women just looked awkward..

Narutone665076d ago

the Jedi mind control are praising it to high heavens.

RXL5076d ago

i have absolutely no interest in this or Playstation's Move...

nothing eithier of them have shown has made me sit up and take notice..

you come out with motion controls/tracking and you're churning shit out worse than the Wii?..

ill eat my words if they start showing some decent to good games but until then..this shit still looks blah

RememberThe3575076d ago

We still haven't seen much of Natal lately but I don't see how this could be fun at all. I'm hoping that MS changes my mind at E3.

dtalon35076d ago

yes if "NEW" is taking someone else's Idea and just making it more precise is your idea of "NEW" then yeah there will be a lot more precise waggle gaming going on.

Desecron5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

New? There was this console called the Wii, launched in 2006, sold 70+ million units. It was pretty big, I'm surprised you missed it.

Blackdeath_6635076d ago

move only showed us sccom4 which might be interesting, i like how playstation dont promise you anything so u dont get disapointed whereas natal they promised to get rid of controllers well... they have a big task on their hands cus i aint lettin go of my controller.

headwing455076d ago

Motion controls have a lot more potential on the PS3 then it did on the Wii. It can take advantage of all the shooters and other games (like LBP2) that the Wii wouldn't be able to do. I'm looking forward to playing MW2 and Socom 4 with the move. However, there isn't much games I'd want to use the Wiimote on the Wii. Not to mention that Sony has done a great jobs proving how accurate it is.

Ju5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

Move showed us (and Guerilla) Socom4. Move showed us Move Party (Archery, Table Tennis, and a couple of other games). Move showed us boxing, Lights Out. Move showed us to play with a pet, EyePet. Move showed some tech demos (that "Minority Report" video).

And Natal showed us ... ta ta ... kicking some balls.

We will see, what that means, literally, at E3. ...

And anybody who says there is no lag is blind. That arm moved 500-1000ms later in that video when that lady moved her arm to calibrate the thing. In a video with normal speed, not slowed down. ... wow.

CJJA5076d ago

move isnt a wii controller idiots.more,way more precise, better looking titles. just because it looks like it doesnt mean it is. theres only so many ways u can design a controller. u could say the xbox an ps3 controller look the same. cause the overall shape is the same. does tht mean there copying? NO.

Mista T5076d ago

if Nintendo does it first, Sony can do it better, member the analog stick? will Sony did it better

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RedDevils5076d ago

I probably have more fun playing football then waving my arms like an idiot :P

Anon19745076d ago

These types of webcam games have been around for a decade, and they're amusing for all of 30 seconds. Who on earth is going to buy this? If they want their kids active in front of the screen, get a Wii. It's cheaper and it has Mario. As for the rest of the gaming world, the average gamer age is well into his 30's. You really think 20 to 30 something gamers are suddenly going to start shelling out to bounce around their living rooms, waving at their tv screen.

I just don't see how this could possibly succeed.

Biggest5076d ago

If they want their kids active they won't buy them video games to provide the activity. Motion control gaming is a way for non-gamers to get into games. It doesn't get you into shape. It doesn't increase your cardiovascular capacity. You'd have more success playing "Duck, Duck, Goose."

feelintheflow5076d ago

Care to wager on whether or not people buy this thing? I am 37 and will be buying it, I have a wii, and love party games for it. I will also get move because it looks to add a lot to hardcore games. There is a place in gaming for this.

Anon19745076d ago

Analysts have been saying that Natal would add 1 billion to Microsoft's revenue. One billion! That means they're expecting 7 million of these things to just fly off the shelf.

I have no doubt that some people who like party games will pick this up, and some people who realize it's value compared to buying a Wii with multiple controllers, but I just don't see this happening.

Not to knock Natal. It's not a bad idea, but it's not being released in a vacuum. It still has the Wii to go up against and it still has Move to go up against.

The 360's a console for hardcore gamers who primarily buy it for shooters. For Natal to be successful they'll have to rope in the casuals, which means they'll have to lure them away from the Wii. When Microsoft dropped the price of the 360 below that of the Wii it caused a brief surge in sales for the 360 but didn't make a dent in Wii sales. I think the 360 is 10 times the gaming console that the Wii is, so doesn't it say something when it can't even compete head 2 head with the Wii when it's cheaper? Is slapping a camera on it for another $150 really going to be the game changer?

I just don't see it.

Sheikh Yerbouti5076d ago (Edited 5076d ago )

Wii's market share is rock solid, while the 360's is falling. People are really underestimating the power of the reigning champ.

I hope for the success of both the Move and Natal, but I don't see either dethroning the $200 Wii. Not to mention that it already has hundred of casual games cheaper than current 360 games. Now if the $149 previously mentioned includes the cost of an Arcade, it's on!

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 1h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle12h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18819h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio9h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning774h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga11h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

shinoff218310h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga9h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan5h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

romulus234h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv724h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

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purple10114h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos14h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-3h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac13h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple10112h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos12h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic10h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead4h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Microsoft Seemingly Closes Bethesda France

As part of its plans to cut 1,900 jobs, Microsoft has reportedly shut down operations at Bethesda France, letting go roughly 15 people

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Hereandthere1d 21h ago

Microsoft should have left them stay 3rd party

GamerRN1d 19h ago

If they are let go, they can be whatever they want. They ARE 3rd party now... 🤦

Barlos1d 16h ago

Yeah, they're also jobless.

GamerRN1d 9h ago

They can form a company if they want, they are just as jobless as if "Microsoft had left them as 3rd party".

peppeaccardo1d 11h ago

"MIcrosoft leaves Bethesda do what they know how to do best" ... close! Oh the irony ....
(Citation from a week old article)

ChasterMies1d 7h ago

I think Microsoft and other game publishers are letting people go because they think ai will replace them. Doesn’t matter how much profit they make. They were always going to be let go.

PassNextquestion1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France was made up of roughly 15 people... they couldn't of being doing much

Bethesda France mainly did publishing and marketing within the region

blacktiger1d 19h ago

that's a shame for you to say that, i'm sure Elite loves hearing what you just said.

Mr Logic1d 5h ago

What a stupid thing to say. The elites give 0 fucks what we say on an obscure website in the comments section.

Crows901d 4h ago

You can always reach out and give them jobs at your company man. Don't wait

blacktiger1h ago

You own nothing snd be happy. I'm sure you heard that

Profchaos1d 21h ago (Edited 1d 21h ago )

Bethesda France focused on publishing and marketing in the region. And 15 people lost their jobs as part of the closure.

I wonder if this is part of Microsoft's strategy to abandoned physical media or possibly gamepass advertising makes their roles redundant you don't need to market a game as hard when the majority of players get the game as part of a sub which already promoted upcoming games

Tacoboto1d 21h ago

It's France too, there's a high likelihood only 1-2 people on the team even had an Xbox.

Profchaos1d 20h ago

Possibly guven all the leaks we know the Xbox brand is really struggling in the region.

Yi-Long1d 17h ago

Well, if your consoles and games are barely found in any stores any more, of course you're gonna struggle finding consumers ...

XiNatsuDragnel1d 20h ago

Tbh Microsoft I think Bethesda being 3rd party same with Activision would probably more competitive than thus scenario imo

Profchaos1d 18h ago (Edited 1d 18h ago )

I think it would have been better for all parties really especially gamers

TheColbertinator1d 19h ago

The recently purchased Activision French offices might take over all the licensing and marketing for Microsoft in France from now on.

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Xbox's Preservation Step Sets A Much-Needed Example, Especially For Nintendo

Hanzla from eXputer inquires: "If Xbox can care about preserving its games and legacy, what exactly is wrong with Nintendo, trying to kill game preservation single-handedly?"

purple10113d ago

Ahh yes the good old game preservation of saving all your games to a removable hhd on the Xbox 360, taking it round your mates house, setting up multiple tvs to
Be met with “save data corrupted, please re download”

Or how about removing 360 games
From the store
, download them now or else, and, better hope to god that save data doesn’t corrupt, or it’s lost for ever

Nice one ☝️

Zeref12d ago

It's better than what Nintendo and Playstation is doing. It might not be perfect but at least they are TRYING. Unlike the others.

DarXyde12d ago

Trying? Take off the blinders for a moment, mate.

1. A failure to preserve games is just that: a failure to preserve games. Don't try to sugarcoat it: NO ONE is doing it properly. Better than awful is nothing to write home about.

2. At the time of this comment, isn't it the case that you need an internet connection to play Xbox games even if you buy physical discs that are hardly in circulation anymore? I don't have a Series X and I can't verify, but I think that is correct. I'm fairly certain you can at least play PS5 games at version 1.0 (not much of a win really when many games require day one patches). I think Microsoft's all digital, licensing approach is by far more aggressive than anyone else's. They really try to push you to game pass where you lose your entire library by umm.... Skipping a month of payments.

I don't think anyone is doing it right whatsoever. Don't get me started on Nintendo, who goes after anyone looking to preserve their games better than they ever would with extreme litigation.

Don't be a simp for any of these companies. Get it together.

PhillyDonJawn12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@DarX never speak on Xbox again. You lost all credibility with your internet connection comment. Smh you have 0 clue and misinformed yet speaking on something you don't no squat about.

Einhander197212d ago

What has Sony done exactly? You guys keep deflecting to Sony but I am not actually seeing any results, and ai am certain nothing that you can come up with even comes close to what Microsoft has done and what they have tried and failed to do, like tie all your disks to your account on xbone.

Microsoft removed their whole indie section when they moved to the xbone because they were going to only allow games on the service that came from a publisher, id@xbox started after xbone launched and it only exists because Sony embraced indie and Microsoft was forced to cancel their plans and reverse course.

And every single game that was part of games for windows live including disk games (I have gta 4 on disk that won't work) so hundreds of games that use that DRM no longer work unless the company themselves patched it out which of course very few did.

MrBaskerville12d ago

Not trying. Tried. they killed of the backcomp program years ago. They set something up again, but sounds like it's more of an attempt to save the current library on whatever they are planning next. With luck they save everything and more, but let's see. I could see them killing off parts of the OG xbox and 360 libraries. Can't imagine that they would allow us to play Forza 5-7 in the future.

With that said, I do like what they've done and really wish they could have done more.

shinoff218311d ago

Zeref

So killing off physical media is trying what exactly. Ms don't really give a fk if you think they do your kidding yourself.

Profchaos11d ago

They are not trying this team is established for forward compatability the team is. It interested in preserving Xbox or 360 games.

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isarai13d ago

Is that why Hellblade 2 is digital only?

Zeref12d ago

Just because it's digital only doesn't mean you can't preserve it. Just put it on an external and you have the exact same functionality of what a disc does.

MrNinosan12d ago

Guess you're trolling, but if you actually think that's how it works, I'd recommend buying some braincells.

mkis00711d ago (Edited 11d ago )

Volitile vs nonvolitile data. A disc will not corrupt either. A drive can be corrupted.

Einhander197212d ago

This is just a scammy PR move to distract from the fact they are going digital only and trying to push streaming and subscriptions only.

No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft.

Without discs there is no preservation, preservation can't be done by the rights holders it can only be done by the consumers, anything else is a lie.

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Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember xblig which Microsoft removed their whole 360 indie section removing hundreds of games from people?

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Zeref12d ago

Do you know you can put your games on an external and preserve them that way? There are no benefits to discs. ZERO. Idk why some of you are still obsessed with them.

DarXyde12d ago

Because games like Persona 5 exist. It's STILL V1.00. On Playstation, that's a win because 1.00 is installed on the disc—no need to download anything.

If a game does not require any updates, it's all on the disc.

Extremely low bar in the modern era, of course. It's not much of a win by any stretch.

But for now, physical media does have a purpose, at least on Playstation.

Einhander197212d ago

That is factually not how game licensing works, try plugging your hard drive into someone else xbox, It's not going to work, and it won't work if the licensing servers ever go down.

Einhander197212d ago

Anyone remember games for windows live.

I have around a dozen games, some on Steam itself that will not work because Microsoft shut off the licensing servers.

BehindTheRows12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

I do. I STILL have games (Gears of War being the big one) I cannot access because Games for Windows LIVE is total garbage and no one has held Microsoft accountable.

Zeref12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership.

Chevalier12d ago

"You don't have an Xbox apparently. Because you can 100 percent plug in your external and play games from it on any Xbox console lol. You just have to be logged in to prove ownership."

Damn how many times do people got to explain your idiocy to you? You can take a copy of Persona 5 like someone used as an example and play that game on ANY console WITHOUT logging in which means I can lend the game to a friend without internet and they can play my game. Can you lend your hard drive to anyone without logging in for them to play? NOPE. That is a huge difference and if you think otherwise then sorry you're an idiot.

Tacoboto12d ago

"No gaming company has pushed harder to remove ownership than Microsoft."

Ubisoft is literally erasing games people bought from their libraries... My PS1-3 discs are useless on modern hardware. Nintendo's re-published and resold almost their entire Wii U library, and the eShop is completely dead with no BC mechanism in the Switch software. Microsoft publishes everything they make today day one on Steam and Xbox/Windows. Sony only brings to PC the titles they think you might want some years later and Nintendo won't even design a functional long-lasting joystick.

You're absolutely trolling and not serious if you think Microsoft today is the worst offender.

shinoff218311d ago

Yay steam

Not everyone fks with computers though. The disc is still the best way as a console player. Period.

Tacoboto11d ago

How do Sony and Nintendo feel about these discs from 2001-2013?

Don't be stupid, you know Xbox is the best at this today.

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Hofstaderman12d ago

Nobody wants this. Sales or the lack of it in the case of XBOX is very telling. I wonder how the adorably all digital series X will fare. Adorably dismal perhaps?

crazyCoconuts12d ago

Only time will tell, but for from someone like me suspecting that Xbox is trying to gracefully exit the console market, that "forward compatibility" team is trying to get Xbox games playing on Windows PCs. I mean, it's nice that they're not planning on exiting with a "enjoy your games while the hardware still works" message, so that's nice. They still have a brand to protect via Microsoft so probably feel obligated to have a better exit strategy.

Xeofate12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

That is not their plan, their plan is to transfer users accounts to the cloud.

Phil Spencer himself said as much a few months back, plans could have changed but I think people are reading way too much into one statement where Phil said he would allow Epic on xbox because he wants to be able to sell xbox games directly on other platforms. Aka, instead of selling Sea of Thives through PSN he wants to have an xbox store to sell his games on PlayStation without giving PlayStation any money.

Again, it's extremely unlikely that Phil plans to put PC on xbox and licensing would prevent them from just giving out other publishers games purchased on xbox copies of thier games on PC, Microsoft does not own their games.

crazyCoconuts11d ago

The thing that doesn't align with the cloud strategy is the giving up on exclusives. You'd still need strong exclusives for cloud streaming - it's still a "platform" , just with a lower upfront hardware investment. I feel like they've learned what PS learned with PSNow long ago. We're not ready to stream games and it's only gonna lose them money to try at this point

FinalFantasyFanatic11d ago

I would love that, I'd buy up some of the Xbox games if they could run on PC, like the Rare Replay, Lost Odyssey and Dead or Alive Ultimate, probably a pipe dream though.

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