DriveClub Uses Real World Weather Physics, Weather Effects Compared With Forza Horizon 2

DriveClub is the epitome of weather simulation in video games. Find out more in our final verdict of DriveClub.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

DriveClub is a stunning game with unbelievable detail. Online issues aside, the high level of detail in this game is undeniable.

[Lev1903]

Agreed. For a guy that loves Horizon i must admit that vissually Driveclub is simply gorgeous. You can see the attention of detail and love they put in this game. Its only a shame they didnt give attention to the other things as they did on the graphics.

[BiggCMan]

They did though. It's just the servers that made it seem like the game was actually bad. The truth is that the game is spectacular, at least to me and my club who are constantly playing it.

Driveclub has a very important factor in it, that a lot of games fail to deliver. It has that "just one more go" factor in it. Similar to Call of Duty for instance.

There is always something in Driveclub that you want to achieve, something that keeps you playing when really should be turning it off.

Getting all the stars in tour mode is a challenging task. Trying to level up your accolades for more fame is an addicting task. Beating your friends on the leaderboards who seem so far out of reach, but you just keep trying to pass them.

Driveclub really needs to be reviewed again because it's 100% stable now. But unfortunately that won't happen because nobody cares about it now.

It's not really these peoples fault, the game just launched in an uncceptable way. But to me, the real Driveclub that the developers visioned, is now a 9.5 game. One of the best games for me in 2014, next to Dark Souls 2.

And I don't care if people think i'm crazy. Those people just look at the low review scores and never cared about the game in the first place. This game is truly amazing. And I highly anticipate the future DLC, because it's one of practically zero games, that does DLC very well.

[CYCLEGAMER]

Simply put...DriveClub has better graphics, Forz Horizon is the better game. Its your choice on which one you would rather have.

[HellzAssassin]

Hell yeah BiggCMan.

I agree with you on the "just one more go" factor. With all the challenges and acolades, I'm constantly playing time trials to best my time, as well as get up in the leaderboards. I've put so much time into Driveclub, and it's honestly one of my top favourite games this year, if not the #1 spot.

'Tis a pity the reviewers won't give it a shot now that everything is finally put together correctly.

P.S. I have the season pass, and anticipate every new expansion. 'Vette C7 and McLaren F1 LM this next pack as me excited!

[Lev1903]

I meant like lack of content. 50 cars and No japanese and american cars is huge deal breaker for a car lover like myself and i also heard that people complained about the bad drift mechanics.

And no, a game should work when its released not months later. Halo should not be reviewed again after they fixed the game and Driveclub also. A triple A title must work on the launch day and should not let everybody waiting for the day its fixed.

[uptownsoul]

@MELMAN26

DriveClub's better graphics have been substantially proven…And this article shows the weather effects are better too…Forza Horizon 2 being "the better game" is opinion…

[Volkama]

@Uptownsoul actually no, 'better looking' is no more a fact than 'better game'. Both are subjective. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, right?

It is widely accepted that DriveClub is better looking. That isn't the same as a fact.

By the same token, it is OK to say that Horizon 2 is a better game. Not a fact either.

It's OK to share opinions.

[uptownsoul]

@Volkama

Who said "better looking"…I said "better graphics"…Graphics, like weather physics, is a verifiable measure…So if you choose to quote me, please be precise

[nix]

wow. the droplets effects. i like how the headlights fall on the objects and they reflect, specially the water droplets. i also like how the stream of water goes up as the car speeds.. i've seen that happen in real life. the water collecting and moving around is just too beautiful to look at.

on the other hand, forza showing water trickling down in the same fashion no matter what the situation was. there was no sign of water droplets hitting the glass on forza.

but of course... "forza has weather too."

[TheRedButterfly]

If only the game played as good as it looks. *sigh*

[darthv72]

Maybe its the compressed nature of youtube but neither game really stood out against the other.

My take is the track conditions for DC was more rain and the conditions for FH2 was a bit less. Which can be true in real life driving. sometimes you get downpours and other times its lite.

Both racers are looking to bring to the table a bit more realism than previous efforts and in that department...both have succeeded.

i would guess there is likely to be an even better FH3 and DC2 down the road (pun intended).

[nveenio]

Visually, Driveclub makes Forza look like a last-gen game. Craziness.

[Kreshi]

I played both games side-by-side today at mediamarkt. To tell you the truth, forza horizon 2 has actually the better image quality overall at sunshine. saying that, driveclub has the better lighting at night as well as better weather effects. where fh2 trumps driveclub noticeably is anti aliasing. 4xmsaa really shows off. in addition to that, motion blurr in FH2 makes it feel smoother than driveclub overall.
letting graphics aside - gameplaywise fh2 definitely had the better collision detection. while cutting corners some centimeters through the grass in driveclub makes your car flip because you collide with an invisible wall, in fh2 you can drve however you like through grass, road and other road-materials. even though driveclub feeled restricted somewhat, the cars felt very tight to control.

[nveenio]

Here is a lengthy and detailed look at the weather and how awesome Driveclub handles it: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

[Gamer1982]

Forzas weather is basic just the same animation over and over. However at least they put it in rather than leaving it out. Better something than nothing I always say.. At least it's not absolutely terrible.. Some of the rain effects we had last gen were horrendous!

[GameNameFame]

This is what that extra horse power gets you.

It is delusional to hope that additional tflop wont do anything.

[Gazondaily]

Yeah you'd be hard pressed to say it isn't an impressive looking title.

Forza Horizon 2 is no slouch in the visual department either. Some of the environments are amazing, especially considering its open world. When you go off-road and see all the cars smashing through grass and bushes on hills etc, it looks amazing.

[Ka7be]

https://www.youtube.com/wat...
water based physics
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
https://gfycat.com/Elaborat...
Its like comparing a last gen game to a next gen game. That how huge the difference is between those games. And btw for some people who say FH2 has better handling. Thats not true. DC handles like a charm. Unlike FH2, DC is demanding at corners. And plus Driveclub has one of the best track design even made in a racing game.

You can disagree all you want. Its fact.
"Stupidity can be cured but ignorance can not"

@Septic "Nice cherry-picked video there."
cherry-picked what? those videos i randomly picked and are not even Full HD lol... DC look even better than those 2 video i posted. Do you even think before you post mate?
There are tons of video go search yourself, if you don't own the game...
http://youtu.be/WpbKvacupO8...

[Gazondaily]

"ts like comparing a last gen game to a next gen game."

Lol are you being serious? Nice cherry-picked video there. You could just watch the video featured above you know?

"And plus Driveclub has one of the best track design even made in a racing game."

Again, are you being serious? If that's the case then you must think the picture below is equivalent to the majesty of the Nurburgring:

http://www.sterling.rmplc.c...

[Lev1903]

@Ka7be So you're telling me that you played forza and made the required comparison or just trolling everybody with your lack of knowledge? Did u took a corner with a Ford Mustang Boss going 100mph? Or drivin truh the fields with a Nissan Gtr? Yeah, i dont think so.

Handling in Forza is been Superb since Motorsport 1.

[Xsilver]

@septic
yeah because in every circuit racer everyone's likes to spend time off the track -_- so what's your point and DC does have amazing turns on tracks and when you nail it boy it's a good feeling. and he said tracks Designs and the tracks in DC are Gorgeous :/.

[Moldiver]

@Ka7be

"And btw for some people who say FH2 has better handling. Thats not true. DC handles like a charm. Unlike FH2, DC is demanding at corners. And plus Driveclub has one of the best track design even made in a racing game."

Dude. FH2 is one of the reasons Im getting an XB1 for Xmas. DCs car handling cant hold a candle to FH2, or any forza. Its laughable that you even make the comparison. Im saying that as somebody that currently has an X360 and PS4. The only console racer that matches the forza games in terms of car handling is GT and soon,Pcars. Its laughable that you consider a pure arcade racer "demanding in corners". FH2 is also an arcade racer but its handling code is rooted in the FM games, albiet toned down for accesibility. DCs handling is pure coding. So simulation whatsoever. The cars dont even simulate body roll relative to speed..because suspension is not being simulated. So your comments are pure fanboy nonsense. Im telling you that as a PS4 owner, who does not yet own an XB1.

Forza horizons weather is based on all kinds of atmospheric mathematics, so the title of this article is pure flaimebait. It implies that real simulation was not applied to FH2s weather. Which as we all know is FALSE. DCs weather looks better because overall the game has more detailed graphics, which is not a knock at FH2, at all, given that FH2 is open world and has to draw much, much more.

[christocolus]

@septic

Lol.

[Utalkin2me]

@Elit3Nick

And ironically enough Septic has 9 bubbles, need i say more.

[WeaseL]

nvm

[5eriously]

It's easy to get nine bubbles like Septic or even loose bubbles. Just go to any Xbox article and post what the idiots and kids want to hear to get bubbles or mention facts of reality to lose your bubbles! That simple!
American kids!

[nucky64]

I agree. I'm not a racing game guy, but driveclub weather is something to look at.

[Utalkin2me]

Not even remotely close. I'm surprised its this big of a difference.

[TheXgamerLive]

The title is idiotic to say. But whatever makes a Sony fanboy feel better. Forza Horizon 2 for the simple minded ones is an OPEN WORLD RACER, drive club is not.
Seriously who tries to compare 2 different game types like this. I could say FH2 has no load times and DC does. Etc........FH2 I can freely drive and race thought an entire country city to city DC does not as its a closed circuit game .......

[BallsEye]

I wonder why all the comparison articles on n4g between forza and DC is always about weather effects? Why not things that matter most which is car customization, amount of cars, tracks, activities, online, number of cars on track(forzas 16+traffic...DC..8)? Oh right, because the only comparisons we got is ones where ps4 has an upper hand. Waiting for article comparing all those other things.

[DaleCooper]

Hit the nail on the head.

[opoikl]

Sadly, for those comparisons you have to read most of the DC reviews...

[Bennibop]

I don't see the relevance of comparing Driveclub and FH2. The only game comparable with Driveclub is Forza 5 as they are both closed track.

[caseh]

@BallsEye

Have to say that's true. A few weeks later when DC still had server issues people were still hyped for weather effects. Like it was suddenly going to make the game better than what they were already playing.

Personally I don't understand that point of view. It's weather, It's not going to change how much I enjoy a game. Not being able to tinker with camber, gear ratios, tyres, LSD settings etc is where it falls down for me.

[tgunzz]

Drive club was meant to have the better visuals (that was the primary focus). The game got delayed another year just for that as well. So yes, kudo's to evolution studios for releasing a prettier closed circuit racer (but delayed to get there) less complete game (that's still being supplied with basic essentials), and Kudos's to T10/playground for releasing a pretty open world game that was masterfully crated (that's still being supplied with incredible bonuses like extreme weather storm island). BTW, a recount is laughable, especially from the ps entusiasts... I have seen countless that should have been there from the beginning comments.

[BG11579]

Not a fan of Driveclub. I actually think of its launch as a failure and that it's not
Yet, I only have to see how those drops of water on the left of wind-shield react and move to be astonished.
They did a really good job, there are many small/great details.

[CuddlyREDRUM]

Online and gameplay issues aside?

[jc12]

I generally like Driveclub, but Im finding one nagging issue with the game so far. I keep getting errors in the middle of gameplay, forcing the game to shut down and for me to lose unsaved data. Its incredibly disheartening.

In my most recent race, I had beaten my friend's time; I was stoked. But then, just as I crossed the finish line, my PS4 got the blue error screen.

Dont know what's going on...but its very frustrating. Is anyone else experiencing this?

[McGruff]

I've had that happen to me too, but only at the beginning of the race and only when I'm trying to enter a challenge. Might be that the DC servers are causing the game to close. That sucks it's happening to you at the finish, all that hard work getting a good time just to get a blue screen at the end. Hope the devs get it sorted soon.

[GMW]

That's odd 😳, I've never had that happen. It is actually the most stable game I've played this generation so far. As far as game crashing or freezing is concerned.

Though I must say this is the most fun I've had in a racing game in a long time. The graphics are an amazing bonus!

http://youtu.be/sVcVaHhBxyM

[jc12]

@GMW: Sadly, while its a solid game, I dont see how you can say its the most stable game you've played this generation, I mean, come on, lets be real.

If this game has been anything, it has not been stable.

Dont know why I get down votes either, some people on this site are ridiculous. Its not like im stating an opinion, Im stating a fact: this game keeps giving me the blue error screen. Ive gotten it 4x, and I probably have about 8-10 hours of gameplay logged. Obviously, its not the best ratio. I hope they get this sorted out soon.

People on this site need to stop polishing Evo's knob though. Face it, the game launced in an unprepared state. Stop the rabid fanboyism. Christ.

[FanboyKilla]

lol wtf do these people want from us with this dc. dc weather looks amazing, but the video of forza looks fishy. i mean fh2 in the video looks nothing like it does on my screen, but dc shows up nice and shiny.

now compare ai, cars, online functions and all the other bells and whistles. lol dc fans and evo are looking desperate for attention.

geesh you look amazing dc no denying it. but fh2 is still running laps around you, no denying that.

playground made the better game. no internet propaganda will change that.

[mmcglasson]

We could start a petition to have big review sites like IGN, GameSpot, etc re-review the game (doesn't mean it will happen) but worth a shot. I don't have this game yet. I haven't played this game yet. I want to play this game.

I don't know if I will like the car selection though. Are there STIs, BRZs, Dodge Vipers, GTRs in this game or only European cars?

[SharnOfTheDEAD]

This is something all should try. Make sure you have some decent headphones, have heavy rain full in a race, mute music, pull up to the side of the road and just listen to the rain falling. Very relaxing

[Xsilver]

Why Gamingbolt trying to start Shxt -_-

[OB1Biker]

Because thats what they do.... 'oh PS4 pretty game'..and then flame bait or troll. thats gamingbot

[Xsilver]

gotta get them clicks.

[HeMan76]

Weather conditions more intense on DC.

[lifeisgamesok]

It seems like Forza Horizon 2 has better everything else

Number of cars, roads, events, customization, handling is better, etc.

[Manic2014]

Drivclub wins in attention of detail. Nonetheless FH2 still looks fantastic.

[georgenancy]

Have you played it though?

[BiggCMan]

"Number of cars, roads, events, customization, handling is better, etc."

Everything there is fact except for the handling being better, since when you bring up numbers, it's always fact. But the handling being better/worse can't be fact, because it's just an opinion.

It could be worse to others in Horizon 2. I haven't played Horizon 2 so I can't say. I'm just pointing out that it's an opiion that can't be proven.

[RosweeSon]

Can you drive on the Moon?! Gran Turismo 6 all the way, the main man behind that lives and breaths cars. Forza is bland/very safe.

[Bennibop]

Not sure why Lifeisgamesok is commenting on Driveclub when he clearly has not played it.
FH2 is an amazing game but your comment is subjective the track design in Driveclub IMO is some of the best track design ever and the amount of cars matter little when you can only drive one at a time.

[KingKionic]

"Everything there is fact except for the handling being better" - BiggCMan

Well how can driveclubs handling be better if it doesn't have any tuning? Forza horizon 2 has tuning for all cars lol

But that`s none of my business...

Im just gonna enjoy this tea.

[Forn]

"Forza Horizon 2 has better everything else..." ... said nobody. Those who haven't played Driveclub are missing out on a great racing and gaming experience. Trolls will be trolls though. I just feel bad that you've become so deluded.

[IGiveHugs2NakedWomen]

@lifeisgamesok

I haven't played Forza Horizon 2 so I can't objectively say if Forza2 great, average, or horrible. I can't say anything about the tracks, I can't say anything about how the cars handle, and I can't say anything about how the game plays.

You and many others posting in this thread have never played DriveClub, so in all fairness, you and those who haven't played the game have no credibility when it comes to commenting on DriveClubs tracks, environments, customization options, the types of cars it has, the number of cars it has, and especially how the cars handle with and without the weather effects running.

[snookiegamer]

@lifeisagameok#

'It seems like Forza Horizon 2 has better everything else. Number of cars, roads, events, customization, handling is better IMO.

Fixed it for you! ;/

[Gazondaily]

Number of cars, roads, events and customisation are not opinions. Its a fact.

[SamPao]

yeah but if that is better, that's an opinion.

number of cars may be great, but are they great?
number of roads may be great, but are they great?
and so on.

I'm just saying

[Gazondaily]

"number of cars may be great, but are they great? "

What do you mean are the number of cars great? Its a higher number. Its greater.

Number of events is a number.

So is the number of customisations. Also, what's not great about the superior options of customization in this? What's the opinion?

The chap above clearly alluded to the NUMBER of "cars, roads, events, customization"

[Oschino1907]

Do you always read things in a manner that helps you justify trolling when you aren't already stealth trolling.

Snookie was only referring to handling.

Ultr was pointing out that more quantity doesn't equal better quality.

Smh you try way too hard...

[Xsilver]

OHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh it's funny how y'all don't play the number game when we talk Gran Turismo VS Forza buuuuuuuut That's not my Business imma go sip this tea.

[Gazondaily]

@Xsilver

And the same goes both ways. Ohhhhhh it's funny how you lot made a big noise about car numbers, particularly when Forza 5 was out but when DC's paltry 56 cars and DLC model were announced, oh how content you were with that eh?

Keep sipping that tea laced with sodium chloride.

@Oschino

Oh he was only referring to handling was he? How did you ascertain that in his post that quoted EVERYTHING in it?

You're wrong mate. I'm not trying at all. I need a better challenge than that.

[Oschino1907]

Imo Driveclub is all about trying to master every car and track/race type, the whole design of tour mode, car/manufacturer/track etc... challenges, event challenges, driver created challenges, online races, Fame accumulation etc... Are all seemingly built around that.

If you want all the extras FH2 has fine, but act as if Driveclub doesn't have those things because it's a lesser game. You know only the most hardcore of hardcore FH2 players will drive let alone master every car in the game.

Driveclub wants you to have the most genuine experience with every single car in the game and challenges/urges you to try them all and master if you think you are up to the competition.

Also between Driveclubs updates, free content every month and the reasonably priced season pass content every month you have plenty of new stuff to bring you back to challenge you for hours upon hours between the cars, tracks, events, etc...

[Xsilver]

@Septic
ONE I've never complained about any racers car list OK So Check YA FACTS because i played racers with less cars and had a blast and I've stated countless times higher car count doesn't = better game -_- and tWO i pointed out how ya'll like to talk about car numbers when it's in your favor hence why y'all never bring it up in a Granturismo VS Forza dispute soooooooooooooooooooooo imma go sip my damn tea while i figure out how full of it you are.

[Moldiver]

LOL.. Septic put the work in on ya'll!

He makes valid and irefutable points. FH2 has more of everything, and even beats DC at its original sales pitch..social gaming. FH2's, FM derived handling is closer to real life than DCs all-code handling. what would be the point of adding suspension tuning to DC, when it does not even simulate suspension? There is a reason it exists in FH2, even if it is a toned down version of FM5s handling model. That is just fact.
There is no debate to be had, there. DC has better graphics. Thats about it. I had DC for about two weeks. Its an ok game. At best. but I am used to better. For Me, ill take FH2, FM6 and GT7 when they turn up. and project cars. the only thing DC has on forza is graphics. Thats all it has on GT, too. and thats only because there is no GT7 at the moment.

@Oschino1907

"Driveclub wants you to have the most genuine experience with every single car in the game"

Then they should have went for a proper physics based handling model. Im sorry but how can you have a genuine experience with a car if the nuances of its set up are not accurately captured. For example; An RUF is a rear engined, rear wheel drive car. It feels notably different to a FW or MR car. These nuances are NOT captured in DC. Its a generic RW model with tweaks to feel of response/handling, to differenciate models. pretty much like burnout or split/second or NFS. DC never lets you FEEL the car the same way a Forza or GT game does. Maybe Its because I am weaned on the like of GT since 1997, that I feel this way. But DC left me a bit empty. It looks pretty though.

[ziggurcat]

@septic:

actually, saying something is better than something else is just an opinion, not fact.

and the fact that he's not played DC, means his opinion is invalid.

[Farmassy]

I just don't get why everyone says people should add IMO all the time. Do people not understand what is an opinion and what is not? Do we really need to start labeling what is an opinion?
Its as if people say, "Oh, by the way. I am an idiot and can not distinguish opinion from fact unless it is stated in the argument. I don't understand the english language well enough to figure it out."

Why can't people just have their opinions and you just know its their opinion?

[MALVAD0]

and more glitches

[RosweeSon]

I really wanna check it out but won't pay for the game until I can play my free ps+ edition, not being stingy but got enough on and driving games for me live and die by the handling, I love a good gran turismo realistic style but then loves good burnout or mario kart style arcadey, ridge racer even, I'm hoping this is more sim style, bit like test drive unlimited which I really enjoyed but having grown up on games like Driver 1 and gran turismo 2 destruction Derby if the handlings not done right might as well forget it, never seem to get on with the EA need for speed games, enjoyed the recent most wanted on vita but nornally the handling is awful real slippy/slidey myself can't stand em but they sell well enough anyway. Guess I'll find out on driveclub in the new year unless they are lining us up some Christmas presents ;)

[memots]

If your going to play it with a Wheel that has FFB, The handling is damn fun. On controller its also pretty good.

Like i mentioned on previous post the handling is right in between, Its not quite arcade as it can be challenging and feels quite good. Overall fun, Way more realistic than most title but not quite on a Level of the Assetto corsa, R3e , Iracing ect ..

Lets just put it on scale.

1 being full arcade
10 being a sim

Rival and Burnout are a 1
Project gotham racing would be a 2
Horizon *the first one is a 5
DriveClub is a 6
Forza 3-4-5/gt5/6 is a 8

assetto corsa, R3e , Iracing , Gsce would be 9

and of course 10 would be the professional sim that Mercedes and Ferrari have for Drivers test.

IMO < -- gotta add that

[Gazondaily]

Try it on Shareplay. Thats one of the amazing things about the service that not a lot of people seem to be talking about.

[StormLegend]

Both loog good, but I think DC has this one.

[Volkama]

Not a like-for-like comparison. Forza Horizon 2 video clearly shows a race, whereas the DriveClub video shows the special AI Conga Line Challenge mode.

[Oschino1907]

Have you ever watched an actual motorsports race in your life? Serious question.

[Volkama]

No. Do the cars stay in a perfect line and adjust their speed so that the one bad driver can keep up?

Have you ever watched an actual motorsports conga line in your life? That's a less serious question, but still feels relevant.

[mcstorm]

I was thinking the same. I know people will disagree on this site as its just the way of the site but Drivatar for me made a big difference to Forza 5 and Horizon 2.
Races feel different and you cant always guess what the AI is going to do.

I do think DC is the better looking game in terms of graphics but for me The Crew and Horizon 2 need to be put up against each other as DC is more like ridge racer where Horizon is open world.

I am not saying one is better than the other as this is not true in life. One thing is never better than other even though people will go blue in the face to tell you they are, But one is better for one type of gamer than the other as we are all different have choice for this reason just like I like to drink JD on a night out but my makes drink Vodka.

If you have DC enjoy it and if you have Horizon 2 enjoy it its really that simple.

[Volkama]

I actually have both, and do enjoy DriveClub. The graphics are smexy, and the handling and track design are tight. But the bad AI, stale presentation, and bad structure totally sap the fun out of tour mode. The online event queuing and stuff is very barebones too.

I would say Horizon 2 is categorically a better game, and the DriveClub PR campaign from certain websites is a disservice not just to the games but to their readers as well.

[uth11]

exactly- I'm more interested in how FH5 compares to the Crew because they are in a similar vein. But almost nobody is talking about that!

Instead they want to compare these dissimilar games because they both have cars and are exclusives.

[Oschino1907]

By your comment you clearly don't watch any motorsports and also never played Driveclub.

It isn't a perpetual in line group, but they are obviously gonna follow the fastest line until an opportune time to make a pass attempt.

If you ever played Driveclub you would know a 1min section of a race won't show all the action from a 5+min race. I have seen cars use far more aggressive tactics than go inline together since the first day I played.

Oh and btw if you ever bothered to pay attention you would notice that you gain Fame(points) for following the racing line accurately, drafting (also best way to gain speed for pass attempts), clean sectors/laps, etc... All things that are easily accomplished by driving in packs.

I have been a fan of racing from Dirtbikes to F1 for years, Driveclubs AI is far more realistic than some want to give it credit for.

@Volkama below, maybe you need Sherlock to help you figure out that I clearly didn't write that and post within 1min of you commenting to the person above me.

Either way if that is true than why are you straight up LYING, why not just be honest? I have never gone around attempting to talk bad about or defame FH2, yet all you do is trash one and praise another daily.

[Volkama]

"By your comment you clearly don't watch any motorsports and also never played Driveclub."

You may not be particularly well-suited to detective work. Have you considered gardening?

[Volkama]

Lying? Nah, I'm not dishonest.

I don't trash DriveClub daily. I've said many a time that I think it is a good game in it's purest forms (online race, various iterations of time trial). I do however think Horizon 2 is a much better game because it is quite consistently great fun and well featured all round.

I admit it may appear I target DriveClub unfairly sometimes, but that isn't my intent. It is a decent game, I'm not trying to take that away or tell people they can't enjoy it. My problem is with the likes of DualShockers for their continued attempts to promote it, and with the tiny but very vocal community that constantly insist the game is more than it is. When I see that kind of imbalance I feel strangely compelled to address it for the good of the universe.

And of course GamingBolt are just being GamingBolt, and milking a hot topic for all they can.

[NeoGamer232]

Both look great!

I drive a lot in a lot of different weather conditions. I don't see this as an apples to apples comparison though. In certain areas I drive, both are completely realistic.

[telekineticmantis]

Yeah, but Forza H2 is still the better game lol. The weather effects/affects seem fun(shrugs), but that's it...

[llxKonanxll]

Driveclub takes the cake.

[MasterCornholio]

Both look good but Driveclub looks better in my opinion.

[Gore-Content]

Driveclub won. Easily.

[WeAreLegion]

I highly recommend both games to everyone. Two of the best racers in years.

[Red]

Drive Club does look better as far as the rain goes, but in all honesty it also looks far less realistic. Water doesn't stay in pools that attempt to flow back to the middle of your windshield no matter how fast you're driving. It looks cool but it isn't an accurate depiction of rain physics. They both look beautiful though.

[Gazondaily]

I think Dc looks amazingly realistic. There have been instances where I've genuinely been confused about whether what I've seen is in game or in real life. Someone on Neogaf shared a gif from DC and to this day, Im not sure if it was real or not.

[Red]

I was referring specifically to the rain. If you can honestly say that when you drive your vehicle at highway speeds in the rain there are pools of water that just sit on the perimeter of your windshield and don't run upwards and outwards away from the center then I apologize.....

[Khronikos]

Game is completely amazing. Crazy to think so may nutters down this for no reason.

[Daz]

OPen world to close track where you get a penalty for going on the grass a little bit.

I think it a bit stupid to compare .
BUt who am i to say that.

[G20WLY]

They patched the penalty system the week after it launched, you should give it another try.

That frustrated me too - and the fact that when someone nudged the rear of your car you got a penalty...both are now fixed and the game is very good indeed. :)

[lemoncake]

One has gone for graphics over gameplay, the other gameplay over graphics and they are very different games. If driveclub didn't look better than forza horizon 2 I would have been shocked as one is open world and the other is not, open world instantly makes it harder to get the best graphics. There's no denying driveclubs graphics are by far the best, but at same time there's no denying that forza horizon 2s gameplay is far far ahead. Now all we need is a game with FH2 gameplay and driveclubs graphics.

[realplayer82]

You forgot to add in your opinion. There are plenty people who enjoy dc gameplay more than fh2.

[Daz]

yeah thats true but there plenty of people who i bias too.

[u4one]

Fh2 is still a gorgeous game. To be honest I don't think dc really looks much better and I have both games. Some stuff in dc looks amazing but sometimes it's inconsistent. I think the rain looks a little better in dc but fh2 still looks amazing to me and its exponentially more engaging as a game

[christocolus]

@daz

Your reply to realplayer above is hilarious.lmao

[u4one]

Let's compare the car rosters, features, gameplay, event lists, tuning, upgrading, customizing, game modes and extras, driving physics and server performance. The things that really matter in a racing game.

[DJustinUNCHAIND]

You won't see that on here because N4G knows that Forza would win by two landslides.

[christocolus]

No need making that comparison cos the winner in all those categories is very obvious.

[V14B]

Are people really paying attention to the stupid weather and scenery when racing? I dunno about most people, but I'm paying attention to the track where the racing is. I'm gonna give this game a chance when they get the PS+ version up, but I really enjoy tweaking my car to try to get that advantage over the next guy.

[marlinfan10]

Are we going to be comparing the order graphics to games like gta? I mean this is kind of a dumb comparison. One is open world, one isnt. One has a ton of cars, one doesnt. One has a ton of events, one doesnt. Im sure if the forza horzion team spent 6 years focusing on a track racer with 50 cars, the graphics would look a lot better than they do now (not that they look bad or anything)

[csbunk02]

I own a PS4 and haven't touched this game yet, reason being to allow the dust to settle.

As a person who enjoys all types of racing games, but also into upgrading (which I'm told doesn't exist) and a little tuning here and there, would I enjoy this game still sans those features?

[V14B]

Probably not.

[Bennibop]

I also like customising cars etc but I have loved Driveclub and it is the only game this year I come back to over and over.

Happy to shareplay if you want to give it a blast.

[corroios]

The diference in graphics is huge in this video... The image is so much clear and the definition seems also very diferent.

Didnt know that DC runs like this, well it would be a good gift to get on christmas.

[Lenrulesdaworld]

Yeah, wouldn't judge FH2 off this vid. You need to play it before you its huge cause its not. However DC is the better looking game but not huge, then again it's IMO

[Hardcore_gamerxbox]

So typical from Sony website trying to compare open world racing game to track based racing game

[ainTgoTTime2bleed]

I'm here for the sales;)...Honest question, which sold best?.
I'm curious...

[Hibsboy85]

Why compair driveclub against forza horizon in my view thay are 2 compleatly diffrent games both are good thos argument is pointless

[Ps4andxb1]

The very fact that linear driveclub is even graphically compared to a huge open world racer forza horizon 2, is massive credit to how great forza horizon 2 was built.

[Saithraphim]

You guys might hate me for saying this but, i can kinda understand why they had such problems. The Game is setting an new benchmark for detail and I think if a team attempts something this ambitious there are sure to be issues you cannot possibly expect. This game just rose the bar...there next title, now having a solid grasp on the tech...will no doubt be great. Not only this but you can bet other companies are looking and learning just what is possible. This will no doubt contribute positively to this generation of games. Its just so beautiful and rich.

[urwifeminder]

Really enjoying the dlc for Horizon 2 thanks MS.

[Morgue]

You know the faster I walk the less rain falls on me.

Anyway.

I just bought DC a few days ago and I like it, the weather effects are pretty insane but in all fairness I can't compare it too FH2 since I don't own an X1 and watching videos on YouTube is kinda pointless but what I can say is. Based on what I've seen in DC so far, I can only imagine what GT 7 is gonna look like.

[ThatArtGuy]

Actually, by moving faster, you'll collect more rain.

[Morgue]

I forgot to add sarcasm

[u-bEttA-rUn]

Yes Forza has more cars yes you can customize them but none of that matters when your game looks like crap... Lol driveclub looks beautiful and It plays just the way its supposed to. Like a racer... Forza is not a bad game at all but nothing about it stands out... I mean nothing. They are two different types of racers made two different ways the question is which one does what it's supposed to do better?

[Speak_da_Truth]

whether FH2 is better is besides the point there are some ppl who prefer DC like myself (I have both games) FH2 is less serious than driveclub and also i don't get this handling debate In FH2 it takes zero effort to get your car to drift It's like driving on wet roads even when its not raining.

[kungfuian]

From a graphical standpoint they look a generation apart. Drive Club looks vastly superior!

As far as overall game play, handling, features, open world vs track based etc...most of this is subjective; although from all the reviews both are really good games which excel in different areas (due to different design goals obviously).

[mixelon]

I love this comparison. They both have their strengths but yeah, DriveClub's weather is insanely nice.

Saying that, the quality of them both is great. We're really splitting hairs here and taking things for granted. Look how cool these BOTH are! Back in myyyy day https://www.youtube.com/wat... was impressive.. And https://www.youtube.com/wat... was amazing.

Kids these days are spoilt, yadda yadda. ;) Everybody wins, guys! Great games for all! YAY!

.. Actually Stunt Car Racer is still pretty cool, wouldn't mind a modern take on that.

[airforcex]

Reading these comments is painful. Forza is the car enthusiast standard. Attested by people that actually drive and review cars. Drive Club was a disappointment; attested by its developers and confirmed by reviewers. I own a PS4. I'm not pretending it's better than Forza. Sony's strategy of releasing GT years into a consoles lifetime is awful. Turn 10 has the correct approach. Until GT is released...move along folks.

[Grave]

Drive Club's lighting and Wx effects are the best I've seen in any racing game.

[DaGamingKing]

The damage done with the shitstorm that was DriveClub has made me loose major faith in this game and I dont care how much gets patched, I'd rather play Forza 5 and Horizon 2 any day of the week over this steaming turd.

[2pacalypsenow]

Then i guess you will never play the Halo Master chief collection (online) or Halo 5 then going by that logic

[2pacalypsenow]

Imagine how Gran Turismo 7 will look :-O

[Mister_G]

I wasn't interested in DriveClub when it was 1st released, but now I see the very impressive weather effects I'm very tempted to try it out.

I think the decision to go with 30fps to enable better FX was a good one :)

[JMyers]

This is truly the best looking racer I have ever seen. The level of detail is seriously unmatched.

It's a shame the weather effects were not ready at launch. It would have given the game a better "wow" factor. The online issues really were tragic.

The PS+ edition will be ready when the team are confident that the server load and issues can be managed with million of downloads... given the numbers of log ins to the game when this is available.

[corroios]

I think Polyphony will have problems with Gran Turismo 7 to match DriveClub graphics and effects, well not DriveClub, but DC2, because when GT7 comes out Evolution already made DriveClub 2.

For me, what is more impressive is the fact that this is the firts game made by evolution for the PS4. If they can do something like this in a new machine, what can the do next...

[GMW]

This game is a ton of fun. The handling and character of each car is unique. The more you drive in it, the more you appreciate! The graphics are an amazing bonus!! The weather patch is phenomenal. Oh yes, also the car sounds are amazing too!

http://youtu.be/_CW21zC9YWE

http://youtu.be/sVcVaHhBxyM...