Assassin's Creed: Unity 900p on both PS4 and XBO? Why?

Boogie2988 discusses Ubisoft's controversial Assassin's Creed parity statement.

He says "I was asked to talk about the #PS4NoParity movement, in relation to the fact that a developer stated that the PS4 version will stay 900p/30fps because thats how the Xbox one version has to be. Very frustrating."

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Blah, blah, blah. Yes because every game on PS4 is 60fps/1080p.

[xHeavYx]

For the million time, it has nothing to do with the PS4 capabilities. It has to do with Ubisoft not using the full potential of the PS4

@donthate below
Typical fanboy response, trying to make your opinion a fact. Did you play Driveclub and Destiny? Or are you going by reviews?
Remember, your opinion =/= facts. Personally I think Destiny is a great game, and I haven't played Driveclub.

Also (this is also typical of fanboys) you say Ubi doesn't use the full potential of the One, but you fail to explain why you think that way

"Spend the time make an awesome experience including compelling story, great story telling, lots of content, awesome game mechanic and social experience. "

You talk like if the game is made by only one person. You can still have a compelling story, great story telling, etc plus great visuals, as they have different departments working on different areas of the game

@donthate 2nd response
"I never suggested my opinion is fact. In fact, I was just pointing out your silly statement"
Oh really? How about "In fact, some of the 1080p games recently has been pure crap. Case in point Destiny and DriveClub" That sounds like a fact to me.

[donthate]

Really?

Because I could also say, it has to do with Ubisoft not using the full potential of the Xbox One.

Resolution does not make a game. In fact, some of the 1080p games recently has been pure crap. Case in point Destiny and DriveClub.

Spend the time make an awesome experience including compelling story, great story telling, lots of content, awesome game mechanic and social experience.

Don't spend massive amount of time eeking out pixels/frame rates to please a group of people, because they will turn their back to you if your game turns to sh!t anyhow.

It happened to DriveClub, and it will happen to you. Be warned!!!

heavy:

"Typical fanboy response, trying to make your opinion a fact."

I never suggested my opinion is fact. In fact, I was just pointing out your silly statement.

"Did you play Driveclub and Destiny? Or are you going by reviews?
Remember, your opinion =/= facts."

I never claimed otherwiwse, but I went with the collective of critics reviewing the game as opposed to my personal opinion or a few fans of the game.

You will always find fans of any game, no matter how bad it is.

"Personally I think Destiny is a great game, and I haven't played Driveclub."

I wasted $90 on Destiny digital edition, and it was pure crap except for the game mechanic ripped straight out of Halo, the great music score and the artistic direction of the game.

DriveClub I am waiting for the PS+ edition, because I ain't paying for that potential pile of crap.

Meilimel:

My point exactly! It goes every way regardless of platform.

[MeliMel]

Yes, and the capabilities of the PS4 are part of its potential. You cant have one without the other. Thats fact not opinion.

[darthv72]

you know, every damn time i see someone talk about the abilities of x/y I think to myself are they really believing what they are saying?

These systems are closer in performance than any previous system EVER RELEASED in the last 30 years. Yes there are differences, no one is denying that but many seem to think that these differences are leaps and bounds over one another.

As if they are comparing a N64 to an atari 2600. Please...if you want full potential to be used then do not look at 3rd party games as a source for that. Look strictly at the 1st and 2nd party ones. They have no reason to hold back anything.

[GodGinrai]

"I'm still waiting for the xbone GAMERS(corrected it for you..you are welcome) to defend their stance on supporting a product that is clearly inferior yet launched for $100 more. I guess exclusives? Lmao"

Well..yeah..have you played forza, DR3 or titanfall? have you played Halo MCC? SSO and quantum break look promising too.I can buy a big game at launch and not experience problems online. Everything works as it should. Purchase justified, one year in. The games dont need defending..neither does the console ( which improves by the month via updates). So I wont defend it. I dont have to..the games are proving themselves. The console has proven itself to anybody that has bought one.

but seeing as you were "waiting" I thought Id be considerate enough to give you a response.

You're welcome.

[Xsilver]

@Donthate
"DriveClub I am waiting for the PS+ edition, because I ain't paying for that potential pile of crap."

then why even play the damn free version :/ So your not gonna buy the game because of 17 mixed reviews one bad one and 36 positive reviews if i relied on what a couple of reveiwers said(even tho the reviews were stupid where people gave it a bad score because it wasn't open world) then i wouldnt of played allot of games that i enjoyed and it's them vs the hundred of people on Neogaf that say the game is really good. then again it's hard to believe you even own a PS4 so stop acting.

[AliTheSnake1]

OK, here's the deal, I am sick and tired of you people. If the game was 60 fps, all of you will bitch and say the graphics are not good, and they were downgraded ( you have to sacrifice a great deal of graphics to get to 60 fps). IF the fps were 30fps, same people are going to bitch about it not being "smoother". Piss off, and let me enjoy my games the way the artists (devs) want to deliver it .
Here's another question, pardon me for I am a bit lost. How do you know that AC Unity and Dragon age:inquisition PS4 is not the better console version ? so what if it's the same resolution as the Xone? there are a ton of other effects to consider, like the textures quality, and the Anti-Aliasing for example.Games can have a night and day difference with better texture quality and the same overall resolution.

http://www.dualshockers.com...

[ABizzel1]

I'm still waiting on these multiple examples of games that have been CPU bound, where lowering the resolution fixed the problems.

There are tons of examples where games that are GPU bound where changing the resolution improves performance, but I don't think I've ever seen one where it's CPU bound.

[Yetter]

And what about the Ubisoft dev specifically calling out the CPU? There are Less ops/cycle, lower clockspeed and higher latency on the PS4. The PS4 has never had more then 30 NPCs on the screen at one time. There are 1000s in this game

[TheXgamerLive]

If you really believe it has nothing to do with ps4 CPU then you use zero common sence and aren't reading what UBI is saying.
Talk about fanboy responses, lol.

[starchild]

@ AliTheSnake1

It's refreshing to see another PS4 owner with some common sense and critical thinking skills. I agree fully with your comment.

@ ABizzel1

There hasn't been any game with anywhere near the number of dynamic NPCs on screen as we see in Unity.

Moreover, just because AI is typically calculated on the CPU doesn't mean that it doesn't have ramifications on the graphics side of things. All of those NPCs are dynamic elements that have to be textured, lit and shadowed, and that's also a lot of meshes/polygons to calculate positions for and animate frame to frame.

What they are doing with scale, density, seamless interiors and huge numbers of NPCs absolutely does involve the GPU and memory side of things, which would naturally affect the resolution the game can ultimately render at.

[ABizzel1]

@starchild

Which again is why I understand why it dropped to 30fps, but to quote the director.

"Technically we're CPU-bound," he said. "The GPUs are really powerful, obviously the graphics look pretty good, but it's the CPU [that] has to process the AI, the number of NPCs we have on screen, all these systems running in parallel."

There wasn't a single complaint about the GPU, the issue was CPU, which again goes back to my point.

[Oner]

Said it the other day so I'll just re-post it for those who DON'T (more like choose to not) get it...and boy are there a lot of you on here ~

Anyone who understands tech architecture & how hardware components actually work will always choose bigger throughput over slightly faster Clock Speed ~ and that's what it boils down to...A few measly MHz! That is NOT a real world advantage! There is no way possible that a larger throughput would be outclassed by a low % increase in Clock Speed of a CPU alone. It's physically impossible.

[MRMagoo123]

@darth

The PS4 has a much larger gap between it and the Xbone than the PS3 and 360 had on each other, and you say 30 years ? The gap between the megadrive and snes was far smaller than this gen too.

[gangsta_red]

Hey Heavy, why don't you go to Ubi and program their game to take "full potential" of the PS4.

Sounds easy enough right!

@AliTheSnake1 and Starchild

That is because most on here think 1080p or bust. They have no idea what else is on screen or behind the scenes that are at work that has nothing to do with resolution but could actually impact it. They were told that 1080p is the only thing that matters so they run with it.

To me it's hilarious that all these gamers only expect 1080p for their next gen consoles. No change in gameplay, design, execution, new experiences, nothing! Just 1080p!

If hitting 1080p is the only thing that makes the PS4 reach it's full potential then I am very sad for this upcoming gen of games for the PS4.

[SoapShoes]

I'm sure it could handle Unity at 1080p/30fps though... And Ubisoft done screwed up by admitting to parity.

[darthv72]

@snookie "Seems mostly Xbox One (or those who'll claim to own both consoles) owners that are in denial when it comes to the whole parity thing.."

do you really want to know why that is? Its because those who have both are in the position to make a rational objective decision.

Lets face facts. if you only had one, then you are naturally going to gravitate to that one side and remain on that one side because you feel you are defending not only the systems honor but your financial purchase as well.

the middle grounders (the owners of both) no longer have that automatic urge to be on the defensive like one siders do. because they can actually make their own conscious decision.

Im not saying there is no longer any preference (because there generally still is) but the decision to buy the game for one platform over another now has more choices. Friends, controller, online service, features....stuff like that.

[u got owned]

@ SoapShoes

"I'm sure it could handle Unity at 1080p/30fps though"

How is that? Are you a developer? Please tell us more...

[CertifiedGamer]

Common sense says all games in the past have had higher resolution and better frame-rate on PS4 than Xbox One. So guess what then that means the PS4 of ASU should have higher resolution than the Xbone version, its not Sony fans fault that Microsoft boned their fan in the X.

[Magnes]

So shadows of mordor, DA Inquisition and a slew of other next gen games the developers all had trouble making xb1 res same as ps4. UbiSoft know something about xb1 programing other devs don't is that what I'm supposed to believe?

[ShinMaster]

That's not what the video said, or anyone for that matter.

[SilentNegotiator]

Reframing a complaint to something unreasonable is the strongest agenda powered reversal the modern world of warped information has to offer.

Instead of discussing the fact that Ubisoft came out and said that they purposefully gave ps4 parity and people not being happy about that, trolls are trying to make it look like the majority are actually complaining that it isn't 1080p60fps.

[3-4-5]

* Shut up and play the game, or continue on with your life and play something else then...

[starchild]

My answer is, why not? Does the extra graphics performance of the PS4 HAVE to be used only for resolution? Is that the position some of you are taking?

As a PS4 owner that attitude annoys the hell out of me. Resolution can help a game look nicer, but there are a lot of other things I think are more important to the visual quality of a game.

I want developers to have the choice to use their judgement in making a game and be free to decide in some cases that other elements of the graphical makeup of a game are more important. Because sometimes they are.

Looking at what Unity is accomplishing I'm so happy that Ubisoft is pushing the boundaries and not being confined by some dogmatic adherence to a certain resolution.

I think the real thing that bothers some of these people is that the game is the same resolution on XB1. But what never seems to dawn on these people is that the game isn't necessarily the same in other areas of the graphics just because the resolution is the same. The PS4 version very likely has other graphical advantages or performance advantages, despite both versions having the same resolution and target framerate.

This is exactly what we saw in Alien Isolation. Same resolution and target framerate, but the PS4 version maintains that 30fps target more consistently and is free from the screen tearing that is present in the XB1 version. It also has better shadow quality.

The point is, just because a multiplat has the same resolution on PS4 and XB1 doesn't mean that each console's power isn't being taken advantage of. Developers should have the freedom to use that power how they best see fit.

[darthv72]

Well thought out. I would also like to add that there were games on the ps3/360 that were 1080p so those who are crying that ALL games this gen should be 1080p are not thinking of the differences in assets now vs then.

without knowing the exact numbers...lets just say that the technical abilities of the current gen systems are able to produce triple the amount of assets on screen (as an example) than previously.

that means that resolution is only one small part of the overall picture. We are seeing much finer details with better textures, lighting, shadows, reflections...etc. So if sacrificing clarity (res) for an increased fidelity (detail) then so be it.

the key to a game is game play. You dont get that from resolution but from a good solid frame rate that keeps things flowing naturally.

[Agent2009]

It kinda worries me that people are more interested in frame rate and resolution than the game itself - and hey, folks, did you notice that the mechanics of the Assassin's Creed haven't freaking changed since 2007?

[Hellsvacancy]

Back in the older days of gaming resolution didn't matter because all tvs were the same, standard definition, now tv's are capable of 1080p, but "some" games can't even hit that pretty standard (in 2014) resolution,

It's not very "next gen" when a game is only 720p or 900p in 2014, if you don't care for resolution game on an oldskool sdtv

[darthv72]

you could go one step further and add that the jump from SD to HD was not as significant as the shift from CRT to panels. And then you need to break down the different panel types. Plasma, LCD, LED, LCD/LED hybrid...etc.

What you see on your screen in 1080 may have a different visual appearance as another persons 1080 screen simply due to panel type. At least with CRT there was a standard and everything adhered to that standard.

there is more to visual fidelity now than simply resolution.

[kstap33]

I guess we disagree on what makes a "next-gen" console. Prettier graphics are only a piece of the larger puzzle. But you bought a PS4, so I don't expect you to admit that the OS, apps, online services, and software stability are as important considering the PS4 lacks in all of these areas. But hey!... look how marginally better this or that 3rd party game look! Keep up the entertainment kiddies!!

EDIT: sorry, responded to wrong comment. Not directed at you.

[u got owned]

@ Hellsvacancy

So for you next gen means resolution? If I play Pac-man at 1080p that means i'm playing next gen?

[choujij]

While there's no denying the Xbox One is the lowest common denominator for the majority of multiplats, it's still inexcusable and very anti-consumer for Ubisoft to artificially impose this parity, regardless of their motives. Parity stifles advancement and competition.

[Ju]

Exactly. That's why I think this is a anti-competitive behavior (and I'd speculate based on pressure from MS). This IS the PS4's competitive advantage. If this is negated, this is done on purpose. There is no reason for this from a technical perspective. Games on PCs and Handheld run different resolutions and FPS and this isn't a design issue at all - nor is the CPU the limited factor. If you process 1 or 1000 NPCs costs the same cpu time regardless of fillrate and ROPs - the main reason for limited resolution (not fps, mind you!).

[CloudyAero]

It's getting a bit old of people downing the PS4 saying it can't be baseline 1080p games. When Naughty Dog confirmed 1080p 60fps for Uncharted 4... And I mean we've ALL seen their past work.
So I'm sure the Ps4 could handle it on a lot of other games.
I say all gamers should just get along really.

[True_Samurai]

*Aiming 1080p 60fps

[MeliMel]

You just have to accept that some games will be at 1080p/60fps and some wont. Its gonna be like last gen all over again. Where the PS4 will flex its muscles with first party exclusives, and some 3rd party aswell.

Btw: these issues can be patched post release just like several games already have.

[CloudyAero]

Yeah, it's not bugging me.
Long as the gameplay is good.
A lot of people get hung up on graphics.

[kstap33]

You should probably learn about games development instead of making outlandish statements with no basis in reality.

[Fkhalf16]

Naughtydog is home to ICE team, some people forget nor know about them. TLOU:R was pretty much made for them to get familiar with the PS4 architecture and use what they got out of it for U4 development.

[poppinslops]

This guy needs to consider his priorities...

[strangeaeon]

Indeed, everyone seems to always ignore the elephant in the room.Talk about a face for radio.

[Iceball2000]

i respect this guy! says it the way it is and the way it should me.

[cyhm3112]

I am amazed by the religion created by xbox fans, the media and other people. X1 has weaker hardware and weaker games and still so many people denying these facts and defending it. Amazing.

[Gazondaily]

"religion created by xbox fans"?? Wha?

"weaker games"

Weaker games? The inferior hardware proved this month why power isn't everything.

[poppinslops]

I think this 'religion' to which you refer is merely the sense we call 'common'...

You want this game at 1080p/60fps?
Well, you're gonna need a PC son - you're gonna need a real good one...

[CaptainObvious878]

I find it laughable you think your stance is common sense. No level headed ps fan is asking for this game to be 1080p60fps. For the BILLIONTH time, it's not about resolution, it's about purposefully holding the PS4 version back to the same level as the xbone.

[strangeaeon]

Wow, if you could only see how backwards your statement is, seen the internet for oh, the last 15 years? There is definitely a religion for a particular console, and it isn't made by MS. As for this parity speculation, I don't believe for a second that the PS4 was running stable at 1080p with everything going on, hence 900p. The PS4 is marginally more powerful than the Xbox One, the sooner you guys accept that the happier you will be.

[CaptainObvious878]

lol.

I think any group on people that can defend the DRM and continue to so viciously defend MS after the fact is right up there at cult status.

[Pogmathoin]

And It was windows OS that was most affected by those attempted DRM cd's...... Oh that was from Sony, that put malware on millions of systems.... I better stay quiet about that... All companies have done some things that did not go down well, MS DRM was needed mainly for the game sharing system that would have been cool. The always on scenario is inevitable too, and if Sony does it first, I bet that would be a good thing.

[MeliMel]

There is some awesome looking weak games and are giving PS4 games a run for the money. But thats just my observation. I could be in the minority.

[Ju]

Oh, we've seen this before. It's talked so much about it that all of a sudden the argument is totally reversed and you have to actually justify why you'd expect the better version on the actually stronger hardware. If you look at this historical since launch you will find a lot of media/marketing activity to water down the argument until it is totally reversed. It took MS about a year to achieve this. They were always very good at steering public perception their way, eventually.

The typical MS fanboy reaction now that 'resolution doesn't matter' all of a sudden is testament for this. Compare this with discussions we had during the X360 period.

[spicelicka]

lol wtf.........

[TheDevKit]

"I am amazed by the religion created by xbox fans."

You're taking this shit way too seriously.

[n4rc]

Bs.. What to know what's frustrating?

Saying flat out bs like "fact that a developer stated that the PS4 version will stay 900p/30fps because thats how the Xbox one version has to be."

Please show me that quote.. Because the developer didn't say any such thing

[xHeavYx]

Right, because Ubisoft will totally send out an official statement saying "yeah, the Xbox is weaker"
Have some common sense, please

[n4rc]

Why are you replying to me with that?

Direct that at the author of this just like I did.. It was never said by the developer yet apparently its a fact he said it.

[Software_Lover]

What if the Xbox One version was 900p/30fps stable and the ps4 version was 1080p/30fps but dipping like Ryse?

That would bring up all kinds of arguments.

Atleast we have the stable version!!!!
Atleast we have the 1080p version!!!

[CaptainObvious878]

"Please show me that quote.. Because the developer didn't say any such thing"

Ok, n4rc, here you go.

"We decided to lock them at the same specs to avoid all the debates and stuff."

I know you're not really this stupid. You're just desperately trying to spin the argument in MS's favor.

You know what's really frustrating? The incredible amount of stupid comments coming from a certain few ms fans. It doesn't matter how many facts or common sense you try to throw in their faces, they're going to blindly defend MS on this issue, regardless on how unintelligent they look in the process and that's that.

I'e already explained in very easy to understand writing why parity is bad about a dozen times, so I'm not going to bother repeating myself.

You can bring a horse to water, but if that horse has an agenda and is being deliberating stupid, no matter how hard you try, you can't make him drink.

[GodGinrai]

You know whats funny?

Over a week ago we would all agree that MS wont be able to *force parity* ( not my words..I dont speak on things I dont have the facts about...unlike most of N4G) because they have half the install base of PS4.So devs simply see no need for it..fast forward a week later and this..

I personally dont believe MS is paying devs to gimp anything. There. I said it. Prove to me that they are. Show me the proof. Ill shut my mouth if ANY of you can show me conclusive, undisputable evidence that a dev has taken money from MS for parity...because MS cant force it..they are 'losing', remember?

I am trying to picture a dev taking MS money to gimp the version that will sell to more people, and probably net the dev more money than what MS would pay ( ASSUMING they pay devs for parity..which lets face it..is what is going on here..lots of assumption) . Unless MS is going to subside any sales made on the other platform..which I just cant see happening. Why would a dev give up extra sales for a bit of cash that would probably be less than what they could make on their own?

Im all ears if anybody can come up with concise, undisputable evidence. Seriously. Otherwise....It is what it is and Ubi made that call on their own.

But answer this. Was parity enforced on destiny even though it was treated as a faux exclusive? I say devs make their own choices. But Im sure many a N4g poster has all the answers. Conjecture upon conjecture..that is all I hear in these threads. No linkable proof. No solid evidence. Just conspiracy theories.

Have a nice day.

[ceedubya9]

You will probably get hugely downvoted at some point, but you are right. Considering the state of this generation, there is no good reason for any developer to do anything in favor of Microsoft. Microsoft wasn't, and still isn't in any position to force anything. What they can do, and have been doing up to this point, is do whatever they can to ensure that the game sold on their Xbox console is at least up to snuff compared to the competition.

People are truly running off with baseless assumptions right now, and giving the PS4, in particular, way too much credit. It is a powerful console for this current generation, but it isn't this leaps and bounds better machine over the competition that will never have shortcomings as games get bigger and better over time. I'm pretty sure i'll get a huge amount of disagrees too, but it is what is.

[dreamed]

Totally agree,dont get me wrong ive been pissed at ubi since they turned the clancy games from hardcore tactical games into run n gun cod clones.

But the fanboyz on this site are ass holes,and need to go off and die quietly in a corner somewhere....this is aimed at all fanboys of all the systems,you are destroying gaming....we'll reading about it a the very least imo.

[Scar-]

Yea so they just up and decided parity on the game they promised exclusive content to M$ for, game that's has only been shown and advertised for the one. Yea it was totally a random decision made completely by ubisoft/ sarcasm.

[GodGinrai]

@Scar

"Yea so they just up and decided parity on the game they promised exclusive content to M$ for, game that's has only been shown and advertised for the one. "

Baseless conjecture. Proof or your just spouting your opinion on the matter, as fact.Destiny has all kinds of exclusive content coming to PS4.The Xbox version was not advertised. they both look and play exactly the same. What is your explanation for that one? I would love to hear it.

You only prove my point. Lots of hot air. ZERO facts. Zero proof. You are simply saying what you THINK. I cant debate theories and conjecture..and its laughable that you actually think you can. I wont debate this further without FACTS. Its pointless.

[Scar-]

I am going to have to start talking down to you so you realize how ignorant and misinformed you are. The target for destiny was 1080p for both machines with the ps4 still out shining the one.

A strenuous performance analysis of Destiny reveals a strict 30fps average for both PS4 and Xbox One. However, Microsoft's platform suffers to a greater extent from frame-pacing stutters, whereas Sony's hardware has relatively few issues.

The Dark Beyond mission, for example, has single frames dropped and added while enemies swarm out of a temple in our tests, causing a jittering sensation, while PS4 remains entirely consistent with a 33ms render-time per frame.

There are walls of text as to why the ps4 version is better. Back to unity they are quoted saying one machine(we all know it was the ps4) reached 1080p 30 fps then they scaled it back for parity.

[Ju]

This is not how MS works. A dev signs a contract with MS to publish on their platform (like eg Google, or Apple or Sony does). Part of that contract are general terms. Some of those are simply "forced" on to publishers. One of those clauses simply is a requirement to "platform parity with a competitor" (probably not in these words and phrased in legal terms). MS will simply pull out if you don't fulfill those requirements. MS is known to enforce their policies...and they might just do that here again forcing pubs to stay in line - despite the smaller market. Of course there is some indirect cash flow - e.g. through expenses paid for marketing activities which saves the pubs a ton of money and probably used to enforce those policies. Positive reinforcement, so to speak. But fact is, someone is pressuring them to do so. In my opinion, contracts which include the competition are anti-competitive and should be reviewed. But there is probably no law forbidding this and no legal grounds to work on and thus the consequence is a business decision, nothing else.

[starchild]

Evidence? Proof? Examples?

Don't have any? Of course not. You and the rest of the fanboys never have any evidence to back up anything you say. Only bare assertions, conjecture and conspiracy theories.

What's worse is that when the facts do come to light you guys are almost always proven wrong. Yet, you continue with the same behavior the next time an opportunity comes along.

When AC Unity comes out and the two versions are analyzed and shown to not have parity in areas outside of resolution, all we will hear from you guys are excuses. No admission that you had jumped to erroneous conclusions and that all of your conspiracy theories were wrong. Nope, we'll just see you guys quietly ignore the facts as you move on to the next issue to twist to your fanboy agenda.

[CaptainObvious878]

You're right, there is no hard proof and since we're the one's making the accusation the burden of proof lies with us.

All we have is conjecture and circumstantial evidence.

But I think you're very naive if you won't even consider the possibility that MS didn't have a hand in influencing ubisoft's decision to not take advantage of the PS4 hardware.

[ToxicSushi]

Who is this Boogie2988 and how is he better or more knowledgeable than any Joe blow person with a webcam and fathead stickers in his room hosting a web show? Can't believe everything you read/hear on the internet folks!

[ddkshah]

he interviewed major nelson or Spenser (i forgot who) on his show on youtube. That already gives him more credibility than most.

[Master-H]

Yea, instead of dealing with the topic at hand let's just ignore that and discredit the one presenting it /s

[ToxicSushi]

Thanks for the info about Boogie2988. I had no idea who this guy was. Do you have a link to his interview(s)? I had no notion of disrespect, just looked like an average bloke with a webcam out of his home hosting a webcast.

[Scar-]

Did anyone watch the video?????? Seriously? Everything he said was correct and highly logical there's nothing to debate. He even brought up there past history of parity in this video.

[Meltic]

ffs stop whine and just pirate the PC version. Dont support developers that doesent give a damn about us players..

[Artista]

How do you know that the games are on par?

Is it 'cause the resolution and frame-rates are the same?

You should remember that, the last creed game had to be patched on PS4 to get 'full hd'.
That was a cross-gen game.

Unity has been in-development for 4 years. . Exclusive to current gen systems and PC.

Why would they 'downgrade' one version of the game for the other?

I know you've been told that the PS4 is the 'most powerful' console.
It is still only a console, therefore it has shortcomings.

Developers are amazing. They've spent time optimising the game for each system,
And this is what they get in return?

All because you've deluded yourself into thinking the PS4 has unlimited resources ^_^

[Ju]

"Why would they 'downgrade' one version of the game for the other?"

Parity clause enforcing this by their major 'advertising' partner which happens to be MS.

It's not the "developers" fault...they are most likely "ordered" to not go overboard with optimization by their business group. I can guarantee you, developers (as in coders) would love to go overboard with each platform if they were allowed to.

[namEuser]

Well no one said anything so I will...Majority of Nintendo's WiiU games that are made properly even at 720p look and run better than Ps4's and Xb1's somewhat library of games if u want to call it that, and I think its funny! Lol I'm an Xb1 owner and I will say later games for it will be better, but also everyone seems to forget that not all of the WiiU's cores have been fully used yet, don't ask for any proof cause I don't have any but I did read about it on CNET...like whatever system u have and just game for crying out load instead of acting like children....

[LiQuiZoN]

I think it is just ubisoft's decision and most likely got some pressure from Microsoft, because they have some friends in higher places. Either way, it is anti-consumer and should not be accepted regardless if you like xbox or playstation.

Only a brainwashed moron would push for parity and accept an anti-consumer agenda, seeing as how you are THE CONSUMER!

[quenomamen]

While I have no doubt ol MS has started writing out checks to Devs, I think this has more to do with the pc times in which we live. When kids sports have no winners or losers, flight attendants instead of stewardeses, Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas, etc. Why should X1 games run at lower specs than the PS4 versions ? Just cause the hardware is weaker ?

[randomguy35]

Make a game the best on whatever platform it's released on..what happened to that!!!Me personally I just can't get into AC played the first 2 liked them both but my interest declined with AC Brotherhood. Tried Black Flag just not my cup of tea.

[cyclindk]

I think.... we should alll have cookies and milk :)

Any takers?

[MetroidFREAK21]

People actually listen to this heap of lard? Give me a break

[cyclindk]

Careful... that's my wife you're talking about there.

[MetroidFREAK21]

Lol

[Donnywho]

Is this a head start on a remastered version?

[stiggs]

Why Indeed. Parity Conspiracy Theorists Please Answer these 3 Questions:

1. If MS paid off the developers to gimp the PS version then where is the outrage from Sony corp? Don't you think that Sony might be a little upset if the competition sabotaged the launch of a AAA title on their system.?

2. Why would a developer risk alienating the larger fan base (PS4) just to appease one that is half the size (XBOX One)? There is no benefit to that scenario that I can fathom. The only “reward” is that it could potentially be catastrophic to their sales due to a negative response from PS4 owners. If your answer is “MS paid them off” then please let provide some form of proof. Also, post your estimate on the alleged payoff amount.

3. We have seen Ubisoft and other developers launch games on the PS4 that ran a bit better than their XBOX One counterparts. Why would Ubisoft choose this specific title to initiate the doctrine of console parity? Do you think that they did not have the foresight to predict the response from the gaming community?

[starchild]

Everything you said was entirely rational and makes perfect sense, yet I'm sure that you will be mindlessly disagreed with; though few, if any, will actually answer your questions or present a compelling counter argument.

Not only do they not have any evidence to support their conspiracy theories, they don't even have evidence that the two versions are truly graphically equal in the first place.

All of them are jumping to illogical conclusions based on one offhanded remark. Ubisoft immediately came forward and stated clearly that they do not and will not artificially limit their games on any of the platforms on which they appear.

I'm not saying we should put too much stock into either comment at face value. But why believe one comment and not the other? The official Ubisoft statement is more congruent with logic and historical precedent anwyay.

What I am saying is that we should use our rational faculties a little bit and determine what is the most likely scenario, and, more importantly, we should wait until we have more of the facts before we jump to all kinds of extreme conclusions.

Sound logic and the known facts do not lead us to believe that the game was intentionally gimped on the PS4.

1. Prior Ubisoft games have always shown differences between the various platforms. There isn't a single demanding Ubisoft game that showed parity across platforms.

2. There's no motive for Ubisoft to purposefully hold back the PS4 version. As you pointed out, Ubisoft knows that the PS4 is likely where they will sell the most copies of their game. The amount of money they could lose from missed PS4 sales if that userbase feels the game isn't up to snuff or was purposely held back would never be offset by any kind of money hat Microsoft could realistically offer.

Microsoft wouldn't benefit nearly enough from a move like this to make it worth spending the kind of money it would require (we're talking probably millions) for it to be worth it to Ubisoft. The economics of it all simply don't make sense.

And that's assuming that everyone involved is unscrupulous and immoral enough to even try to do such a thing in the first place. Not to mention the amount of people you would have to keep quiet, as a huge number of the people involved with the game would have to know about it and maintain the secret. It would be too easy for one of the programmers or designers to come forward and blow the whistle on the whole thing. If the various programmers, engineers, artists and designers are aware that one console is capable of easily doing more and is artificially being held back they would all have to be in on it.

3. We don't know that the two versions are equal anyway. People immediately started acting like because the games are equal in resolution and framerate they must be equal across the board. This is a huge leap.

We have already seen quite a few games this generation that have the same resolution on PS4 as XB1, yet still have other graphical advantages on the PS4.

This idea that because the PS4 is stronger it always has to show up as a resolution difference is a strange one. Wouldn't people agree that sometimes graphics resources might be better spent on other aspects of the graphics?

In any case, I predict that we will come to find out that the PS4 version does have certain graphics or performance advantages over the XB1 version.

I think the evidence clearly and overwhelming supports the idea that the two versions will not in fact be on par and that all these conspiracy theories are false. However, at the very least, it should lead people to take a wait-and-see approach before getting out the pitchforks and going on a rampage.

[gangsta_red]

OH MY GAWD!

Your number one point seriously blew my mind.

These guys on this site are running around convinced and spreading the propaganda that MS is paying all these companies to intentionally gimp or sabotage the gaming world but not once did it occur to them as to why Sony isn't fighting mad and fighting back!

Shouldn't the question be asked:

How come Sony isn't paying Ubi off to make AC:Unity 1080p?

How come Sony isn't paying review sites off to make Driveclub a perfect 10 for metacritic?

How come MS is the only one paying off sites and companies to sabotage Sony?

I have already stated your same 2 and 3 points in other articles and I get no response back. No one can answer that question because they know how silly they sound when they get that thrown in their face. Too quick to blame MS for every bit of gaming evils but when rational thinking kicks in it's either some sarcastic remark that has nothing to do with any point or just ignore the question all together.

Everyone keeps screaming the full potential of the PS4! .... So PS4's full potential is only running the game at 1080p?

Don't you guys out there want to see what this "50%" more power can do for games other than 1080p?

@Starchild
Equally well said good sir...+bubbles for you both.

[bigtrucknd]

I think regardless of the resolution that it's still gonna be another glitchy wonky controlling AC game. I'll wait until it's 20 bucks in January and then buy it used for 15.

[MAULxx]

Boogie2988 shot it straight.

[qwerty676]

why do we need like 100 articles on this one subject?

its the same people saying the same things over and over again each article

guess its my fault for clicking on it in the first place lol.