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Sony, I’d Buy a Vita if it Had SD Card Support

Cory from For the Love of Gaming writes:

"I totally want a Playstation Vita. Combine the Vita with Playstation Plus and you have a device that will get new content every month as long as you subscribe, and eventually will be a great companion for that fateful day when I finally pick up a PS4, but if Sony really thinks I’m going to throw down $300 to get the Vita experience where I don’t have to worry about memory, they are crazy."

Dudebro903518d ago

Totally agree. The price of the cards is downright criminal.

ramiuk13518d ago

its the reason i have never bought one too ,i vote with my wallet and charging about 500% exta for vita cards is a disgrace

Death3518d ago

The memory card cost is very high, but not my biggest complaint about the Vita. The hardware is excellent in both features and quality. It has a high end feel to it that can't be said about a DS. My problem is with support. When the system launched it was marketed as the power of a console, but with the convenience of a portable. Very little content has been released that actually pushes the hardware in any way.

If the memory card is the only thing holding you bacb, pick a Vita up. PS+ releases more than enough content to justify the cost of storage. Just don't expect to be blown away by the majority of the games available. Many come from the PSP's back catalog of games or could easily belong on the previous handheld.

OmegaShen3518d ago

Yeah, you're off by 500%. Its funny. Microsoft does the same thing with 360 and people are ok with it.

The prices are high, but I like to see the system itself have memory build in (more then 1gb).

ramiuk13518d ago

@omega, i bought xb360 consoles with HD built in and you wanst forced to buy extra space.
on vita with all the ps+ games etc u are forced to buy with vita as it does have internal or any included as standard.

and it is about 500% isnt it?
64gb sd is about £15 and isnt a vita equiv about £80?

Baccra173517d ago

After paying ridiculous prices for a memory card for the PSP, I made sure not to repeat that mistake when I saw Sony repeating history with the PSV.

nirwanda3517d ago

While I don't agree with the pricing of memory cards I do see the logic of standardizing them, there's a massive difference between the read/write speed of a class 1 SD card and a class 10.
Even cards in the same class have big differences between them.

darthv723517d ago

sony should have stuck with the M2 design. At least that is more approachable than these specialized cards that are only used for one thing...the vita.

KOIMOJO3517d ago (Edited 3517d ago )

Even though the prices are still crazy, they aren't nearly as bad as they once were. I just got a 64 gb card for 100 dollars. Compare that to the 60 dollar sd card I bought for my 3ds and it isn't too crazy. When the 32 gb card was around 130 though.........

MrPink20133517d ago

OmegaShen

People were not OK with hard drive prices on the Xbox 360. Where have you been? So stop deflecting, besides that system came with a hard drive in the premium model which people preferred. Now the Xbox One allows external hard drives up to 16 terabytes. Now what?

Nobody likes the price of Vita memory cards but sometimes you can get a decent deal. In the real world people have valid complaints like this one and Xbox 360 hard drive prices. Not everyone is a console warrior who can only defend one side.

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BattleTorn3518d ago (Edited 3518d ago )

I sucked it up, and ordered a 64gb card from Japan.

Got it off eBay for around ~$80, which was a steal for when I got it. I think they hadn't even released in NA, and were regularly $150.

Klonoa-dreamtraveler3518d ago

did the same but got it on amazon.

SaffronCurse3518d ago (Edited 3518d ago )

Memory cards shouldn't be an issue. You pay for it once and that's it. There is an onboard of 1gb storage in the 2k series, which should suffice for a good number of physical vita games given that most require as little as 5mb. If you're big on digital downloads get the 32 or 64 gb. They are expensive as hell, but weren't there many exploits off sd/stickduo cards and the battery of the psp?
Sure sony wants to have the device secured as much as possible. It sure seems like there isn't any rampant piracy going on right on with it. The second an exploit is found, they release a "stability" patch.

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SaffronCurse3518d ago

@Tiqila

The average physical vita game requires a minimum of 5mb to install onto the homescreen.

slivery3517d ago (Edited 3517d ago )

@SaffronCurse

Do you even actually own a PS Vita? What you're saying is not true at all. Unless you're talking about incredibly small indie titles, you aren't finding any actual Vita titles that are 5mb to install.

They range from 500mb-8GB including DLC.

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XSpike3517d ago

You only need 1 32gb or 64gb card & then you can fit heaps of games, I say get over it & buy a Vita. Its an awesome console with plenty of awesome games. With PS+ its the cheapest handhold I've ever owned with sooo many games.

RosweeSon3517d ago

I really don't understand why everyone moans about the price of the Vita cards shop around nearly a year ago (11 months) I paid £40-42 for a 32GB card yet today I can walk in to GAME and trade it in for £38 if I wanted to meaning I've lost no more than a fiver, with the consoles being barely over a £100 (£130/150 with memory card and either 6, 8 or 10 games) then all the free games you get with PS+ I can pretty much count the games I've actually bought physical copies for with both hands it's about 6 or 7 and the rest have either been free or in deals through the store so they have to make money somewhere so I guess it's in the totally agreed overpriced memory cards but just don't pay RRP for them like I said shop around 32gb shouldn't cost more than around £40-45 and as GAME and some other places try charge £55-60 trade it in with them as your always likely to get a better price ;) I've only bought the one card was tempted to get a 64gb for £60 but I'll just just the content I have, can always redownload it even if I do like having a nice selection of games (still do a good 4/5 proper vita games 10/15 indies and a good 30 or so ps1 classics, just wish they'd put the ps2 classics on vita but yeah memory card price isn't the biggest problem with vita it's the lack of AAA games but seriously if it's the price of the memory cards that worries you get ps+ at the same time and the free games within the first 3 months or so will basically pay back the cost of your memory card and probably years Ps+ membership, can't really day fairer than that.

paul-p19883517d ago

Although they are a tad on the expensive side, I imported a 64gb card and I don't know why I didn't do it sooner. I have 70 games on there (a mixture of AAA and Indie Vita, PSP and PS1 games and quite a few PS+ games) and still have at least 5gb left.

It might be a high price to start, but it's definitely worth the investment. Also, the reason it's proprietary is to stop piracy which has so far worked, so more studios will support the platform. Look at just how quickly PSP/DS got fully hacked thanks to Memory Stick Duo and SD card.......

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Spotie3518d ago

And so would all the people looking to hack the device for the pirated games.

Dudebro903518d ago

3DS takes SD cards, and that system is doing just fine.

nodim3518d ago

And is successfully hacked.

joeorc3518d ago

@Dudebro90

"3DS takes SD cards, and that system is doing just fine."

I love this, thinking a AAA 3DS games run the same costs in development as a AAA playstation Vita AAA game?

The fact that argument is even entertained show's many are only looking at it from "Nintendo" centric point and not from other companies other than "Nintendo"

Example: "Nintendo releases the 3DS at $249.00"

Than Sony releases the Playstation Vita, @ the same $249.00 and Nintendo than drops the price to $170.00 and that everyone points to the Playstation Vita as too costly!

Lmao

Yeah because its the same thing with each companies offerings..

RosweeSon3517d ago

If only it was that simple, 3DS is fantastic and prob by fave just for it's quirkiest but there's no denying as I own both Vita is the more capable console and yet 3DS still smashes it out of the park even after such a slow start and with games that don't look quite up to vita standards, a way off when you compare say resi revelations and uncharted golden abyss, but yea I don't think it's just the fact vita doesn't have SD cards, sure the cost of the memory cards are pricey as I've mentioned in previous comment it's not that bad and the vita problem isn't just that simple otherwise they'd have added it when they changed the screen it's the fact that there's no AAA games for it and Sony have seemingly given up after a year or 2 once it's finally started to sell a few (specially in japan) but hey ho I'll finish off what I've got for it and then just use it for remote play, at the end of the day tho majority of the top end games come in around the 3GB mark some maybe 4 with updates that's a good 6/7 games on a 32gb card loads more games if there mainly indies. Juggle juggle that free space ;)
Make GT vita GTA vita MGS vita and God of war vita, not to mention follow on to handheld uncharted vita, killzone mercenary 2 and gravity rush and I'm sure they'd sell a few more PSP had their very own versions for all of these series yet all vita has gotten is rehashed ports from previous consoles and generations bar the off gem.

4logpc3518d ago

If people want to hack the system, it will get hacked. Regardless of the type of memory.

HakatoX3517d ago

hasnt been fully hacked yet....

slivery3517d ago

We'll see, hackers are usually clever and get around anything so I'm not doubting you but its been almost 3 years now and no one has fully hacked it yet.

When almost every other system, especially more recent ones have been hacked in less time. So those proprietary cards are definitely doing them some good although it is a double edged sword.

Geniusgaming3518d ago

I agree completely with this article. If my vita came with an SD Card I would more then gladly buy it!

Ilovetheps53518d ago

That's all I'm waiting for. If they would just put an SD card in it, I'd buy it. But until they do, I refuse to buy the Vita.

DualWielding3518d ago

those hyperexpensive propietary memory cards have really hurt vita sales

GiantFriendlyCrab3518d ago

not just that but also ps1 and ps2 emulator

ziggurcat3518d ago

you do know you can play PSOne games on the vita already, right?

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers1d 1h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken12h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g21h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing21h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H921h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola17h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66920h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle20h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 13h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 13h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola1d 8h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197221d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6921d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197221d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic21d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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