And This is Why Sony Cares More About Gamers Than Microsoft

The author applauds Sony's commitment to fresh talent, and says Microsoft doesn't give its customers the same sort of service.

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[Kingthrash360]

Ms has always been about ms...Sony used to be like that. They've changed and now they listen AND act in favor of gamers and devs. Quickly too..that recent tlou pricing prob was solved in a hasty manner...they, by law had all the right to keep that money, but instead they refunded it. Not to mention PS+ giving free games for ps4 AT LAUNCH.. On top of true f2p games...I can go on but we all know this stuff by now.

[Kivespussi]

PS+ is still mandatory for online though. Don't see any reason to have it that way but cash.

True that it's awesome they give great games like Resogun and for cheap. Still, doesn't justify multiplayer being behind a paywall.

[xilx]

@kivespussi

PS+ isn't mandatory for online with f2p titles, at least, keeping them "free" to play (it's up to the publisher I believe, whether they want to be behind PS+ or not, and so far I don't think a single f2p title has opted to do that).

[insomnium2]

Holy hell this opinion piece hits the nail on the head. This is exactly how I see things and this is only going by the facts nothing else.

OMG @nextlevel below. That link is scary dude. There's nothing to add to that really.

[ZodTheRipper]

^They recently invested more ressources into their online network and they compensate these costs by giving away 2 free games each month, how is this wrong? PS+ offers incredible value for your money, it's a consumerfriendly way to bring back the costs of network management. Remember that XBL once cost the same and ONLY offered multiplayer.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

I'd have to agree. Sony takes more risk with new Ips than MS.

With Phil in charge hopefully MS this gen will continue to invest new Ip's and take more risks.

[Why o why]

Thank you angelic. . .I also believe Phil will make a big difference. It's not just him to be fair. Some of the people at the top must have had to change their ways of thinking to appoint Phil and reverse some of the bs

[PingasoFromHell]

Sony used to be like that until they lost 100 billion dollars, at the end of the day they are both just businesses...

[daBUSHwhaka]

FREE games at launch with ps+.Do you get ps+ for free ?.No such thing as free with both xbox or ps.

[Kingthrash360]

@^^^^Blacklight...warframe, FREE...no plus needed....day1
Next.

[MysticStrummer]

"No such thing as free with both xbox or ps."

There are already multiple games for PS4 that are free and don't require PS+ to play online.

OT - It seems the usual argument for statements like the one in the title is something like "Both are businesses, both are in it for the money, and neither care about you."

While this is true, one of them has policies and practices that at least generally give the illusion of caring about gaming and gamers more than the other one.

[kanyewesting]

This is hilarious n4g is worse than neogaf. MS has made better exclusives than ps4 thus far and they've been rolling out updates for us.

Stupid fanboys

[BattleAxe]

It's amazing how naive most of you people are. Someone mentioned that PS+ isn't mandatory because you can play F2P games.....give your head a shake. Nobody buys a PS4 to play F2P games, all of which are on PC anyway.

Another guy says that PS+ is amazing value... you need to give your head a shake too. You need to spend $50.00 per year on PS4 that you never needed to spend on PS3 to play all of your favorite games online. PS+ was a good deal when it wasn't mandatory, but now it really doesn't matter whether you buy a PS4 or Xbox One, because you need to pay to play your favorite games online for both of them.

Everyone seems to have jumped on the Indie bandwagon with the PS4 these days. People seem to forget that Indies were making games on the PS3 from day one also. The difference being that Sony is leaning heavily on Indies to provide content for the PS4 at the expence of providing the amount of first party/2nd party development that fans received on the PS3. It seemed like most of E3 was dedicated to Indies.

I like Indies, but they are not the reason that I buy a console. I've never known anyone who was excited to get their hands on a whole bunch of Indie games, and I really don't believe that most people on N4G are all about Indie games either.

Sony wants to spend as little money on the PS4 as possible, which I believe means that you will not see the same amounts of big budget first party games as you did on the PS3. Instead, what you will get are tonnes of Indie games, the odd big budget first party game once in a while, and a whole lot of digital re-makes of old PS3 games. People will look at the PS3 as being the 'good o'l days' within the next couple of years.

I've been around for all of Sony's console launches, and this one is the weirdest one. There's so much hype, but there's nothing to really get excited about. Sony has fooled many people this time around, and it's astonishing how easily people have fallen for it.

[ThatOneRiggaNob]

Exactly BattleAxe

[Pogmathoin]

The highlight of the Xbox days was the original when it was designed by gamers for gamers.... Sony did the same with PS One when they realised Nintendo was never going to be helpful to them. By the time of PS 3, after the staggering dominance of PS One and 2, I guess Sony thought that just by showing up, they would walk it again. After a few years of struggling, they made the changes that reflect today with PS4. Arrogance also got MS with the latter years of 360, but they too made the right changes since then, especially after the botched launch of X1. Nobody has ever been perfect, all have been smitten with greed and assumption at some stage, and no one still ever knows what is up at Nintendo. The reference though to Alan Wake doing better with PS.... Shows the author here is using emotion with the article. Many games that were incredible on PS3 never received the sales to match the praise its games got, because Sony never seemed to get behind a game that was not Naughty dog or Santa Monica. The only thing the author nails is the statement that nobody is perfect, 100% evil or pure..... Console business is like a merry go round, and you never know what to expect....... Just awesome games on many different systems.....

@ NextLevelofMaria.... How many times have you used that, and yes, those were days that could have been better, like early PS3 years, but as the article says, nobody is perfect. Also, bring something original to the table, you are like an 80's radio channel, can predict the very next comment from you all the time.

[lfc_4eva]

People will be sheep.

[BallsEye]

MS is not commited to gamers? Really? How about xbox dot uservoice com ? Place where anyone can put an idea for xbox one/xbox 360 , it get's voted and if there are enough votes most likely it will land in upcoming monthly updates. Already lots of stuff been added to xbox one that gamers wanted thanks to new voting system.

[MysticStrummer]

@Battleaxe - "Nobody buys a PS4 to play F2P games"

I don't have a PS4 yet because no game yet has made me want one enough to go ahead and buy.

If Sony announced a PS4 Planetside 2 open beta starting tomorrow, I'd go buy a PS4 right now, so your statement is false. As it is I'll be buying one in time for Destiny and then Driveclub the month after.

"I like Indies, but they are not the reason that I buy a console."

No Man's Sky will sell consoles, and rightfully so.

"Sony has fooled many people this time around, and it's astonishing how easily people have fallen for it."

What's astonishing is how many people have already forgotten MS's pattern of a strong start followed by a fade. Sony gamers have a history to look at that makes them confident about what's coming. MS gamers have a history to look at that should make them nervous about what MS will do later in the generation.

[mikeslemonade]

MS spends more money for their games since their relationship with developers isn't as good or close.

Nintendo is the greedy company.

[ITPython]

@BallsEye - And where do you think they got that idea?

I'll leave this here: http://share.blog.us.playst...

[SilentNegotiator]

They're both businesses, but I've always found MS to be more underhanded when it comes to how they do their business.

[ALLWRONG]

And this is why N4G is losing hits and sinking lower into oblivion.

[Exari]

@BattleAxe

"Nobody buys a PS4 to play F2P games"

one of the reasons I bought a ps4 is for deep down. whats your point?

"all of which are on PC anyway"

deep down is a ps4 exclusive and WONT be released on pc...

lol some ppl are either butthurt or dumb

[snipab8t]

Oh my god, you people and your incredible levels of ignorance are infuriating!! Don't you realise that Microsoft AND Sony are billion dollar companies! As either of them give a shit about Gamers, they want your money!!! They don't give a shit about you, or me, or anyone! They only give a shit about making money. They make decisions to get people to buy their console, not to make you happy you ignorant fool.

[jebabcock]

Truthfully. I'd much rather not have to pay extra to play games but the fact remains that almost every game nowadays has an online element or is centered around network play. It wasn't as big of at the start of last gen. But The significant network traffic has to be paid for somehow. At the end of the day Neither Sony nor MS are charity drives... They have to generate enough revenue to remain competitive and make investors happy. 50 bucks a year for additional features and online play for certain games plus a wide array of games on multiple platforms/consoles at no additional charge(is that better than saying free) is taking what MS started and making it an easier pill to swallow.

I hated paying for xblive on the 360 because I don't do alot of multiplayer and I got nothing out of it. With psplus i have been introduced to many games I never would have given a chance otherwise.

[otherZinc]

@@BattleAxe,

That was an exceptional post and very true. I agree completely!

There's no way I bought a nextgen platform to play some Indie Games.

[UltimateMaster]

@Kivespussi
If it worked for Microsoft and the Xbox, then it'll work for PlayStation.
It'll give them the money needed to enhanced their online infrastructure.
As a businessman, billions of dollars in revenue is not something to look away from.

[kreate]

I think Microsoft realize this and they're trying to turn things around.

perhaps u guys should give them a chance?

[Dehnus]

Yup, and they have shitloads of bubbles too so brace yourself indeed.

[ZombieKiller]

I've always felt Sony cares more about the gamers than MS. It's the general attitude in everything they do. I know everyone is in it to make money, that's what a business does. Coming from MS though I feel like they piss on us and tell us it's the rain.

MS- will do something like charge for online because they know they can.

Sony- Sees the competition is making money and fans aren't compaining about the fee (too much) and charges the same fee, non mandatory, and with insentive (free games) for the same price.

MS- Starts to sweat at the competition, offers free games 2 per month.
Sony- Steps game up and offers more recent, better games (seriously, Bioshock Trilogy, Hitman Absolution-offered last year on PS+ this year on XBL, Arkham City, Borderlands 2, Payday 2...I could go on and on) People might see "free games" which is enticing but WHAT free games should be the question (which is what I mean by the piss on face, tell us it's the rain comment)
-"Yeah we have free games too"
-Ok my store gives away free phones with a 2yr activation but that doesn't make it a good phone....

Or even the periphrials with the console.....what about the fact that each Dualshock COMES WITH AN INTERNAL BATTERY AND CHARGE CABLE?! By the time you are ready to buy a freaking play n charge kit, you've spent how much in batteries? Say $10....plus the Play n charge $25, plus the controller $50-60.

Knowing that alot of it's fans are little kids that can't afford this sort of thing, this alone shows why MS sucks at caring whether Sony is better or not. My point is stated very well in the authors closing comment:
"At no point in owning those Xbox consoles did I feel like anything more than a faceless dude with a wallet. On the other hand, as a PlayStation owner, I've always felt just a little more connected to the brand"

[ghostface9]

ya like when the ps3 console came out at 600 dollars and when people said that costs too much they told them to get a second job sounds like they care alot about their customers

[ZombieKiller]

No ghostface, it doesn't sound like they care at all. Could you tell me when they said that though? I don't remember ever hearing anyone say that, and if they did, they would probably be fired. You got some evidence to back that up?
How about the fact that they took a loss on every PS3 sold though? Up around the $200 mark too. So tell me another one.

[Why o why]

They didn't say that zombie but it helps the faction sleep well. They constantly misquote what was said to make a fallacious point. When he gets back to you with the so called quote please school him on group think and Chinese whispers.

[k3rn3ll]

http://m.neogaf.com/showthr...
Actuallt they did say that. They said the console was so good that people wojld get a second job just so they could be able to have one. And then they rode that 600$ for a long long time. Ill look up that quote and post back later for you guys if I remember. But yes it has. There's an entire thread on gaf dedicated to ceo arrogance, the vast majority have come from sony

Edit: heres the thread y'all with all the quotes compiled

[BabyTownFrolics]

"During a recent interview with Japanese economic website Toyo Keizai, ever-charming Ken Kutaragi had this to say about Sony's goal for the PS3: "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

http://www.joystiq.com/2005...

Here is a list of other classics:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

I feel we should take any company to task when the need arises, but cant we agree that both MS and Sony have spread their fare share of BS.

[SouthClaw]

Yeah Microsoft charged for their online system because of quality something PSN didn't have. The amount of downtime is a joke. The PSN hacks were a joke. Sony care? Hey buy our console you can run Linux on it! hey just so you know we are updating the console and we are removing Linux either update and lose it to play online or don't ever play online again. Yeah they care!

You talk about controllers? LOL the PS3 controller was flimsy plastic and didn't originally come with dual shock. The Xbox controller is so highly regarded it is used by the military in simulations.

You talk about batteries? Yeah ok its nice to have it inside you're right. What happens when your battery dies? It happened a lot. You cannot officially replace it yourself and hey Sony won't touch it. Yeah I so love internal batteries.

You do also realize that the games are licensed when they are put on PS+? Sony don't just look through the games they have in their cupboard and go yeah gamers will like that lets give them that.

Such a moron.

[Why o why]

Told them to get another job

for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'

The same? ones talking about the desire they want consumers to have and the other is just brazen. Why not just quote the quote verbatim...... thats right, because most people have probably never read it.

@babytown.... cant argue with your last paragraph. Theres a lot of tripe in those quotes there.... but yeah, none are innocent. I'm just arguing against the '2 jobs' misrepresentation.

[AnotherGamersOpinion]

Sony certainly gives the appearance of caring more about gamers than ms. However, it is just that. Appearance. No company blatantly exists to help gamers. Profits are needed. However, that being said, Sony certainly has a more consumer friendly approach. This is important to remember. Believing a company cares about its consumers is not a common belief on any other product, so ehy should it be with game consoles?

[mcarsehat]

It's only advertising. Consoles aside,it is still just a way of taking our money. No one listens, people are just idiots.

[truefan1]

Of course Sony cares more about gamers, they are a failing company with one successful business unit. MSFT is a juggernaut with many successful units. What should be worrying is that MSFT is offering a better gaming experience than sony in terms of gaming and apps, while gaming is not the primary focus.

Also Sony is a company, you ps4 fans sure love to make it seem like they are a charity. Do you think shareholders give a darn if you like the CEO, they want results. Also if sony was such a charity gaming on psn would still be free, didn't they promise they would never charge.

@Angelice you make absolutely no sense, what new risks are Sony taking. Kzsf, infamous, mlb, tlou, uncharted, bloodborne are all sequels. Ryse, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, D4, Project Spark, Max COB, ScaleBound. MSFT is Bringing the Games!!!! If you count Bloodborne as new then that just adds 2 more games to the XBOX side in Crackdown and Phantom Dust.

[sinspirit]

Lol. That's complete hypocrisy.

"they are a failing company with one successful business unit".

Uh, Sony's movie divisions, music, insurance(in Japan), and obviously PlayStation are profiting successes.

Microsoft on the other hand is in the same position, except I'm not aware of any of their profiting divisions other than Windows, which continues to lose market share because of their lack of respect and failing to deliver on promises to their PC users for years now.

Of course shareholders care if people like the CEO.. It's public image. That's a stupid statement.

Sony is a business, yes. You can't get any more obvious. But, look at how generous they have been with their offers and pricing compared to the competition, that also neglect and deliver faulty products often. Vista, faulty, and they neglect to support it anymore. X360, over half are faulty. XBox Original, neglected as soon as the faulty X360 came out. Windows 7, exactly what Vista was supposed to be, and they are already trying to limit updates to Windows 8, like DX11.x and possibly DX12 because they are trying to force people to upgrade to W8 which is essentially just a reskinned W7 with a few updates. Terrible terrible business practices and they do it because they know they have dug so deep into the market.

I haven't even mentioned how they develop their OS's and then when it's complete they simply cut out features, make different versions(32-bit, home, professional, ultimate, etc.), so that they can release the gimped versions for standard price just so they can raise the price for the complete versions. It's like releasing GTAV with content cut out, keeping it at $60, and then releasing the full versions for a higher price.

[MysticStrummer]

"MSFT is Bringing the Games!!!!"

Yes they are, just less of them.

[Haxamin]

Bloodborne is new IP, crackdown and phantom dust are not.
Also, you forgot The order,Driveclub, Deep Down, EGTTR, Rime, Abzu, Let it Die, without memory, all new IPs.
And if you can count titanfall, then i guess we can count H1Z1, Everquest,and Soma, and so on.

And also, does the fact that one company being more financially stable, MSFT, allow them to be less caring about gamers? No. And yet you consistently have your head up their arse.

Try moving that goalpost.

[k3rn3ll]

Um every os version of every os is essentially a reskinned version of the previous one with a few updates. Thats how it is on mac os, iOS, android, web IS, very rarely do u get anything completely revolutionary because it involves completely scrapping the previous GUI and code , if anything windows 95 was the only revolutionary os out of all the ones I just listed

[nyzma23]

@sinspirit
urg you wrong buddy microsoft is very succesful company all their division is make money both bussiness side and consumer side and a bigger company than google in term of profit and revenue
the device and service division where xbox,windows phone and surface are on also making profit thanks to android patent licensing

[Tito08]

Many successful units? Likehat? Oh you mean flops like Bling, Surface, Lumia and Zune? Lol, nice try.

@nyzma23- Actually, did you know they lost money Zune, and it's being a known fact the XBox division is one of their least profitable divisions, and while it's true Microsoft is a bigger company than Google money-wise, they're not bigger than Google, but they're far behind from Google's success.

[Tito08]

Like what?*

[liquidhalos]

Another typical, my daddy is bigger than your daddy now give me hits article

[TheXgamerLive]

No, not a war but why is it some sony fanboys have to constantly be lieing little bitches?

[snookiegamer]

@XGamer

QUIT acting like pathetic little fanboy trolls. People like you do all you can to discredit each others console brand of choice.

GROW UP & QUIT ACTING LIKE A BUNCH OF PUPPETS & ENJOY WHAT YOU HAVE. HATERS!!

[Magicite]

My friend said Sony are greedy for suddenly charging for online, meanwhile he have been playing for xbox live gold for years.

[SouthClaw]

XBL is a quality service with extremely little downtime and great content. PSN complete opposite in the PS3 days it was down constantly not to mention the PSN hacks.

PS3 wasn't designed as an online console first it was designed as a media machine first with online thrown on top which is why there was so many problems with PSN. It is the reason you could never ever have cross game chat on PS3. Sony didn't care about multiplayer. Microsoft designed all 3 consoles with online in mind. That is why they can charge for it. Sony got jealous and realized they could make up some money that they are loosing as a whole company by charging for PSN now. So sad people are too stupid to realize.

[ZerobyZero]

Sony made the charging for online gaming to improve the security on the psn and not being hack like MS Xbox beacuse I been hack so many times on my 360 and I had never gotten hack on my ps3 or ps4

[gman_moose]

Southclaw, not sure if you are intentionally trying to come off as a raging fanboy, but you are.

There's nothing separating XBL and PSN these days, and PSN is still $10 cheaper per year. Yes, PS4 owners have to pay for online now, but the fact is they didn't for 8 years prior to that. 360/XB1 owners are 9 years @ $60 per year and counting now. You can justify it all you like, but those are the facts.

PSN down all the time? Huh? When they had the security breach it was down for a while, but I don't recall any other major downtimes... then again, maybe I do other things besides play games, and don't notice every single maintenance. You seem awfully mad about gamers rallying behind a company that has gamers in mind from the beginning- no strings attached.

Spencer might help fix MS's image a bit after Don Mattrick took a $hit on it, but if you think it's about anything but the $$$ you're delusional.

[showtimefolks]

that's why when people say every company is in it for money i don't look at sony as some of these greedy corporate types. I know exclusives are each person's personal preference. Some people like Nintendo's or MS first party titles other will say sony

for me its sony just because of diversity, Nintendo and ms are doing the same games over and over again.

[Justindark]

you know who does free? Nintendo enough said.

[NextLevel]

This answers that question, better than anything ever could and uses FACTS, not opinion.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum...

This clearly shows who each is trying to please and who actually "all about the gamer". It's unspinnable.

[lelo]

It would be interesting to see a actual pic comparing X1 exclusives vs PS4 exclusives launched until now.

[NextLevel]

Best I can do.

Xbox One Games

Exclusive = 33
Microsoft exclusive = 14
Console exclusive or timed = 21/3
Multiplatform = 163
Playable = 58 available to purchase (12 of these are exclusive to Xbox One)

There are currently 234 games on this list.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...

PS4 games

Exclusive = 26 (1 of these are free-to-play)
Sony Exclusive = 22
Console exclusive and/or timed = 77/3 (9 of these are free-to-play)
Multiplatform = 144 (3 of these are free-to-play)
Playable = 89 available to purchase (10 of these are exclusive to PS4)

There are currently 273 games on this list (14 of which have been confirmed as free-to-play).

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/w...

Hope that helps.

[jnemesh]

@NextLevel Funny that you are getting downvotes for FACTS! Bubble up for you, sir!

[marloc_x]

"Dance Star Party Hits", YESS!

[gamer7804]

this relates to the year of the ending generation spin down, a better chart would be of the entire generation, not just 1 year. Sorry thats totally spinning.

[voodoochild346]

2010-2013 is one year in your world? Just in case you didn't realise the point of her post, since kinect came out there have been more kinect exclusives than traditional exclusives for Xbox 360. The ps3 numbers are flipped.

[rainslacker]

It would be even more skewed in Sony's favor if you looked at the entire life of last gen consoles. Perhaps you aren't aware, but Sony had a ton of exclusives both first and third party(mostly from Japan). The first six months of the PS3 was kind of slow, but they still had several exclusives for it during that time.

[gamer7804]

@voodoochild

my bad, i looked first at the games and not the date, still less than half the consoles lifespan, and just at first glance, the xbox side is missing Alan Wake (& American Nightmare), thats a pretty big title to leave off of a console exclusive list... wonder what others there are, don't care enough to find out whats all missing. looks like they left out out arcade title exclusives too.

I own all of the systems, i just hate these fanboy wars, no system is "better" than the other, just people trying to prove that there is when it can't be proven.

[doolin_dalton]

@NextLevel

That link is nothing but spin and misdirection.

Why are all of the 360's indie and arcade games missing? It's clearly an attempt by a Sony supporter to make the PS3 look better than 360 by simply ignoring one of the 360's strongest aspects.

It's funny how from 2010-2013 Sony fans ignored indie and arcade games, and ridiculed Xbox fans when they made lists that included downloadable games. It's clearly because MS outshined Sony in those areas. Now all of the sudden, whenever the talk comes to PS4 vs. Xbox One, indies are front and center for the Sony crowd.

Keep moving those goalposts.

[Flutterby]

And when ever the talk turns to indies xbone fans say they don't count ? So which way do you take it either way you don't win.

[snookiegamer]

@doolin_dalton

What are you, like 10 years old or something? Jeez.

@Flutterby

I 100% Agree. Plus, all these pathetic trolling idiot clowns are doing is ruining gaming.

[Tito08]

If we ever ignored indies, then Journey, Flower, Joe Danger and Hotline Miami wouldn't be as successful as they are now, and we wouldn't have got those arcade Neo-Geo arcade classics.

Best indies y'all have going on on Live is Bastion and Mark Of The Ninja, and now since most indies are siding with Sony, now you XBots are spinning your heads and saying indies don't matter anymore, nice try morons.

[Dubaman]

"I would like my car to fly and make me breakfast, but that’s an unrealistic expectation." (Jack Tretton’s thoughts on those who expect backwards compatibility in future PS3s, 2007)

”some of our competitors, seemingly, are losing the plot” (Jack Buser, head of Sony DP, shortly after the company spent a significant portion of their E3 2012 Press Briefing focussing on the Wonderbook)

“[nothing] good has come from the internet, period” (Michael Lynton, Sony PE, 2009)

"I believe that the Sixaxis controller offers game designers and developers far more opportunity for future innovation than rumble ever did. Now, rumble I think was the last generation feature;" (Phil Harrison, 2007)

”With the DS, it's fair to say that Nintendo stepped out of the technical race and went for a feature differentiation with the touch screen, but I fear that it won't have a lasting impact beyond that of a gimmick - so the long-lasting appeal of the platform is at peril as a direct result of that... Nintendo knows its target audience, because it has really narrowed that down; and it's pretty much defined by a boy or girl's ability to admire Pokemon.” – (Phil Harrison, 2005)

"The Xbox 360 is more of an Xbox 1.5 than a next generation console." (Ken Kutaragi on the design of the competition, 2005)

And my favourite little slice of the hypocrisy pie:
"A bit pricey." (Michael Ephraim, Managing Director of SCEA, on the launch price of the Wii)

"It’s probably too cheap…" (Ken Kutaragi on the $599 PS3, 2007)

[corvusmd]

No true reference to anything, it just boils down to "I think Sony is better cause I feel that way". MS CAN make the exact same claim about taking a loss on most titles, that is not a Sony exclusive idea or concept. It's an industry wide reality. (It was one of the reasons that Developers were pushing the idea of DRM so that they could get a piece of the trade market), so that we wouldn't see studios close their doors every other day like we do now. Pretty lame opinion piece really.

[iamnsuperman]

"MS CAN make the exact same claim about taking a loss on most titles, that is not a Sony exclusive idea or concept. It's an industry wide reality."

It isn't an industry wide practice. Far from it. Things that don't make money are discarded and never seen from again. What Sony claims to do goes against the norm and logic.

Microsoft could make that claim but that claim would be hardier to justify in light of how the 360 life played out. Over the years more of their well known and highly profitable (good numbers in terms of sales) franchises took centre stage over those that appeared early in the 360's life (which made perfect sense as they sold good numbers). This is contrary to Sony who had a few exclusive reached similar sale records but most did not. inFAMOUS is a perfect example of this. The first one sold okayish, the next did not (I was surprised to see another after the low sales inFAMOUS 2 got). Sony also went against the grain of new ips last generation (but an argument could be made about the need for them to do that as they were falling behind)

[HeWhoWalks]

You saw a sequel to inFAMOUS 2 because even if it didn't sell as good as the first one, the sales aren't as low as you're making them out to be.

Besides, had that been the case, we wouldn't have seen another one. Much like Beyond - didn't sell like Heavy Rain, but wasn't a disaster, either.

[iamnsuperman]

@HeWhoWalks

NDP says it sold around 300,000 in the US in its first month. I don't think it topped 1.5 million in its total sales (not impressive figures nor was it seen as a success). The first game sold about double that.

[HeWhoWalks]

Without knowing what it did, in full, it's meaningless to speculate on actual figures. We also don't know what Sony thought of it - so again, meaningless to say: "it wasn't seen as a success".

In essence, it may not have performed like the original, but that wasn't enough to prevent a sequel, one that's about to pass inFAMOUS 2.

Edit: In fact, it sold more than what you posted for it's first month:

http://www.examiner.com/art...

If the game were a disappointment, I don't believe Sony would want to discuss any sales figures (this again is considerate of the idea that it may not have performed like the original). Other than that, we have VGC, which puts inFAMOUS 2 at 1 million behind the original, but it knocked out about 1.68mill. They also have Second Son creeping ever so close to inFAMOUS 2 (this is with just 3 months of sales).

There's a reason Sony chose to stick with it.

[P_Bomb]

@iamsuperman
Infamous isn't a "perfect example", as it's one of the better selling open world superhero games. Better than Prototype and the last countless Spider-Man's. infamous 1&2 also sold more than the 360's closest exclusive counterparts, Crackdown1&2. Look it up. Yet MS just announced Crackdown3. Why wouldn't Sony continue as well?

The last Gears and Forza games haven't even hit 2 million themselves, so if infamous doing 3 million is merely "okayish" to you, Horizon, Forza5 and Gears Judgment are disasters. But they all have sequels in development.

DeadSpace3 did poorly, but EA has already said it will be back. RE6 bombed but we know that's not the end either. Tomb Raider bombed a few times, and even the reboot fell below Squate Enix's expectations, but a sequel was announced at E3. It ain't just a Sony thing to keep going. Saints Row 4 bombed too, as did Metal Gear Rising compared to MGS4. Pretty sure MGS5 is still coming

[DigitalRaptor]

Sorry Corvus, but you've been schooled by iamnsuperman.

To add insult to injury, if developers were so pro-DRM, Sony would have built their console around DRM, since they have built their console around what developers wanted, from the specs, the memory allocation to the controller design and functionality, and online systems. Fortunately, they clarified that they weren't making a console that restricted your used game discs back in February 2013, before MS officially announced their cruddy DRM. http://www.dailytech.com/So...

If developers and publishers were truly pushing the idea of universal DRM, we would've seen more of an outpouring of statements from developers other than the infamous Cliff Blezinski (who has no idea when the statements he makes are going to be stupid from one day to the next), when the DRM reversal was a real consideration.

[DanzoSAMA]

Lmao, i see how many Exclusive games coming to PS4 this year.

[RichardDawkins]

More than Xbox.

[True_Samurai]

I guess if you're into Indies a lot.

I'm more focused on AAA exclusives and 3rd party games. Only Indies I'm interested in are Inside, Ori, and Cuphead

[Hellsvacancy]

"I guess if you're into Indies a lot. I'm more focused on AAA exclusives and 3rd party games"

Then you mention three Indie titles you want, that's real double standards right there

[DanzoSAMA]

AAA :)

[RichardDawkins]

@Samurai

I'm not into indies. The only indies I've played are Resogun and Contrast upon getting my PS4. I'd support more of them if they were released physically.

My point is this.. PS4 has more exclusives. Whether they're AAA,indie or free2play. Up to this point, I could present all the evidence and facts that PS4 has more exclusives but because they're not "AAA" then suddenly they don't count. There's no use presenting empirical evidence against a troll. This article isn't even about exclusives... It's an opinion piece about which company treats gamers In a better regard..

[MysticStrummer]

"AAA :)"

I love this idea that a big budget + lots of advertising = a good game

Never mind that this has been disproven again and again.

[DigitalRaptor]

The problem is this.

Indies have the capability to be JUST as fun and feature packed as AAA games whilst being more original and unique, and in FACT, indies have been better rated than most of the exclusive AAA games on either console so far this gen. Go and look it up.

You're going to be stumped in 2015 when PS4 has indie games like RiME, Shadow of the Beast, No Man's Sky, SOMA, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, ABZÛ, H-Hour: World's Elite, The Talos Principle, and The Witness that have the capability to stand practically toe-to-toe with the big releases on either of the consoles and show indies punching above their weight like JOURNEY did. Meanwhile, MS will have their expected exclusives and only their traditional indie games that can't compete with what Sony is curating for their consoles, and the value that is unprecedented through Cross-buy.

PSN: Fantastic and value packed games like Hotline Miami 2, Titan Souls, Broforce, Not A Hero, Velocity 2X, Helldivers, Grim Fandango, Loadout, etc. The list goes on for fun and unique looking indie games that compliment a strong AAA lineup. When Project Morpheus is introduced, this will just be amplified tenfold.

As zeuanimals basically owned below, PS4 has just as many AAA games coming in 2014 as the Xbone does, and he even missed some of them. MS just seems more desperate to let people know that they are making a better effort than most of last-gen, to convince people that they are about games. The PS4 still has more diversity from smaller developers to boot.

The real difference? Sony can keep it up, going into 2015, and doesn't need to announce games that are coming out in 2016, to mislead their audience that they have more games for 2015, unlike MS.

So.... Early 2015, PS4 has 3 AAA exclusives: Bloodborne, The Order: 1886, and Ratchet & Clank Redux. Early 2015, Xbone has just ONE timed exclusive indie game and nothing until the second half of the year. Kinda reminds me of them releasing Titanfall to much hype with practically nothing else of note until the holiday of this year.

The narrative that PS4 has barely any exclusive AAA games coming this year or the next makes me yawn so hard.

[zeuanimals]

They had 2/3 games in the first half: inFAMOUS SS, MLB The Show, and if you want to count it, there's FFXIV ARR.

MS had 1: Titanfall.

The second half, Sony has TLOU Remastered, Guilty Gear Xrd, Driveclub, Samurai Warriors 4, and LBP3. If Planetside 2 manages to make it to the PS4 this year, that'll be another huge game that I'm gonna be spending a ton of time in.

That's 5/6 games for the second half of the year and 7-9 games for the entire year.

For the second half for he Xbox One it's: Forza Horizon 2, Sunset Overdrive, Halo MCC, Project Spark, and D4.

That's 6 games for the entire year. I count Halo MCC as 2 games since it has Halo 2 completely remastered for the Xbox One and the rest are just upscaled and run at 60fps (Halo 1 is the Halo Anniversary edition), so that's 7 games for the entire year for me, but it could be 9 games for you.

7 because there's 5 games without Halo MCC, and Halo 2 Remastered along with the rest of the collection which I count as 2 making it 7 games. 9 because that's 5 games without Halo MCC, and if you count each Halo MCC game as its own, then that's 4 games.

Depending on your standards, they can be the same, the PS4 can have a bigger lineup, or the Xbox One can have a bigger lineup if you count each of the upscaled Halo games as their own exclusives. It all comes down to perception. For me, they're even but Planetside 2 will take many hours of my time.

[Kavorklestein]

Your way of counting games is retarded.
If we are gonna just count Halo:MCC 4 games as only 2 games, then TLOU is only half a game too bro.

Plain and simple, it all counts or it all doesn't. Just for the hell of it, let's say Remasters DON'T count. Now what kind of stupid numbers do you have tallied up for the year?

[zeuanimals]

@Kavorklestein:

I count Halo MCC as 2 games because it literally is Halo 2 completely remastered and the rest of the games just running better and having better resolutions. When people talk about other collections of games, like the God of War Collection, MGS collection, or the DMC collection, they tend to treat them as a single game because it is just the same games but upressed and with better performance. They can state that each collection can be a big deal if they come with a lot of gaming content but they won't treat each individual game as a proper current-gen game.

When people talk about Windwaker HD, they count it as its own game because it's been completely remastered. But it's just one game, so are you gonna call it half of a game? I consider it a fully current-gen game because the devs went back and redid a bunch of things.

So when it comes to collections, I only count complete remasters as their own games because the devs literally went back and redid a bunch of stuff, not just bring the game to a new system and have it run better.

And are you really sure you want to start counting every single upressed game as its own game? If so, nothing's stopping Sony from completely filling their catalogue of games with more upressed collections of games from previous gens and calling it a day, and they'd be able to do so with much more games than MS because they simply have more games they've published. And then the PS4's number of games is gonna balloon up and MS won't be able to catch it, but there's revisionist history and fanboys are gonna start moving goalposts saying from saying each Halo MCC game is its own game to what I'm saying in regards to remakes/remasters when it starts not running in their favor.

I don't want either company to be bringing a bunch of upressed games. I want a higher standard when it comes to remakes/remasters of games.

[JBSleek]

The end of the article is the essence of stupid fanboyism. To me if you love gaming you strive to own all three consoles. In 2015 I'll be playing Uncharted, Halo, and Zelda.

If you let this petty crap keep you from playing great games. Shame on you... Are you even a gamer?

[HugoDrax]

I've stressed this multiple times on N4G lol. This site is flooded with fanboys from both sides, but more so the so called gamers who prefer only Sony over other platforms (MS or Nintendo).

I personally own all 3 consoles as well as a vita, I even have the Destiny white PS4 pre ordered on amazon to match my white vita, and eventually white project Morpheus :-). Now I know everyone isn't as fortunate as me to own all 3, but as you stated, strive to own all consoles if you consider yourself a gamer. The fanboy crap on N4G is why I visit this site less frequently than other sites. I just want to converse with the gaming community in a civil manner, but it doesn't seem possible on N4G when so many articles are about why Sony is GOD and MS is the devil lol.

Anyhow, play games not consoles people......

[JBSleek]

That logic just simply goes over the simple minded people's head. I don't understand why people care so much how other people are enjoying gaming.

Okay some people don't have the console you enjoy. Get over it people like different things is it really that serious that you have to fight over preferences....

I actually laugh when I see people argue because it's a shame people will miss great games.

[Jsoc]

I agree with you I have all 3 systems and the vita and a Gaming PC I love to play games, I'm a gaming junkie..... Lol..... I'm doing the same with the white PS4 when it comes out and I hope MS will come out with a white Xbox One..... But I understand why now ther is so many PS fans doing what they do.... People forget that last Gen when X360 was king there was so many trashing PS fans left and right on this site .... It was like that on most of many other gaming sights .... So I can see where the anger is coming from.... Is it stupid and childish yes. But I understand it.... Is it ever going to end? No !! It will only end when every gamer out there could afford to get all 3 console . And even then I don't think it will end.... IMO.

[kdmai5z]

"To me if you love gaming you strive to own all three consoles."

Tired of hearing that BS line.. How you're a real gamer if you own everything crap. I'm a damn real gamer & i sure as hell don't need to own all three console.. i have a massive backlog & i'm a trophy hunter. There isn't anything on the X1 i want to play or care for. Does that automatically cut me off? People who use that line are ridiculous. Get off your high horses. You can enjoy games on all three or just an iPOD...

[JBSleek]

I never said real gamers so I don't know why you went all crazy about that. Also I worded myself very careful and said you should strive to own all three consoles.

I love playing games so I own all three consoles and a PC because it's my favorite hobby. If you feel that you can somehow get all of your personal gaming needs by just own Sony products(Making an assumption because you said trophy hunter) then by all means do that.

I said personally to me all three systems have must play games so I think everyone should own one.

I don't understand how I'm on a high horse my suggesting that people should own all three consoles if possible. Relax. You only own one good for you.

I just hate when people fight over this crap for no reason. It's never that serious.

[kdmai5z]

I didn't mean to aim that at you. It's just i constantly hear some sorta of "you must own all 3" to be consider something in this gaming community. That i find is utterly crap & anyone who stands by it is no better.

[MysticStrummer]

"Are you even a gamer?"

"I never said real gamers so I don't know why you went all crazy about that."

Your question is arguably worse.

Instead of acknowledging that the person is a gamer of some kind, just maybe not a "real" one (whatever that means… hardcore I guess), you ask if they're a gamer at all.

[MAULxx]

It's not petty crap that keeps me from buying a X-Bone.
I simply don't want one. They dont have games I want to play. Halo 5 could be good. That said, I'm not that excited for it either.
Have you ever ate something that you like for years but then it made you sick & you couldn't eat it anymore? That's what MS is to me this gen. A Sony console took their spot on my shelf. It just so happens that the Bone doesn't have anything I want to play. Nothing to make me want one. Has nothing to do with being a gamer. Just don't need it, don't want it. I'd rather have a Wii U as a second system.

[JBSleek]

Then clearly my comments weren't aimed at you. If you feel that they were you are likely guilty of fanboyism.

[MAULxx]

I was just commenting on your "strive to own all the consoles". There's no point in owning a X-Bone for me personally and others like me.
Im not guilty of anything except hating MS, refusing to buy an X-Bone & not being interested in their exclusives.
Does that make me an autofanboy of Sony or Nintendo?
If so then so be it. Everyone's a fanboy!

[Spotie]

I love gaming so there are sometimes consoles or games I WON'T buy. Striving to get everything isn't good for gaming, and it doesn't prove you're a gamer. That's a stupid assumption that needs to die a horrible death.

What's pathetic is how hard you and some others go to maintain a facade of neutrality while preferring a company you have to make far too many excuses for.

The number, variety, and quality of exclusives is a rather valid way to determine how much a company cares about its target market. (Yes, yes, the bullshit about companies only wanting your money; you'd have to be an idiot to claim they all go about it the same way, though. Let's not use such ignorance, shall we? You'd only be fooling yourself.) A company that delivers a wide variety of quality games in large quantities can be said to care more about gamers in general than a company that does not.

This is strengthened when those games provided are developed in-house, rather than outsourced.

I know how much you want what you say to be true. But at done point, you've gotta stop making excuses and just face reality. Part of that is recognizing that you don't have to support all companies to be a gamer, any more than you have to buy all games.

[MAULxx]

"Well said" Spotie.

[mcarsehat]

isn't it incredibly cheap to endorse these games, they are nothing but prophet so how can it be seen as such a good thing?

[matt139]

They're both there to make money. Stop being so deluded sony fanboys.

[MasterCornholio]

If they earn their cash by pleasing the customer I'm fine with that. So who really cares as long as they are satisfied?

[marlinfan10]

how hasnt MS pleased its customers? the only people that talk about how bad they are are the sony jock riders that wouldnt buy it anyways. what has MS done thats so bad? DRM? omg they wanted to try something new and took it away rather quick after the backlash. big deal. if sony did the same thing people on here would be saying "they took it away, they love the customers!!!" the double standards on this site are mind blowing

[MasterCornholio]

@Marlin

I didn't even mention Microsoft.

Wow you just assume that I'm attacking Microsoft when all I said is that Sony is earning our money by pleasing us. Stop being paranoid and learn to read my comment next time.

Sometimes your just as bad as truefan1.

Your the one being the defensive fanboy here not me.

[chuckyj1]

MS and Sony both just want your money... That's the bottom line profit... Without profits both companies go out of business... But, after years and years of being in the Red Maybe Sony is trying a little harder to get more of your cash. MS hasn't been operating in the Red for a very long time... So maybe they take a little more risk and see if they can skim a little more off the top....

But, neither company really gives a $h1t about gamers they care about gamers money and how much they have.

[WeAreLegion]

That's just not freaking true. Not everyone works just to earn as much money as possible, especially in the gaming industry.

[n4rc]

Publically traded companies do.

[WeAreLegion]

I'm sure some of the executives do, but not everyone. I'd bet a great majority of people who work at the Xbox and PlayStation branches are there because they want to make great games.

[Geoff900]

Companies do anything to earn your money, the games industry like any other entertainment platform is all about MONEY.

This notion that games developers/publishers, console manufactures care about the end user is a fallacy, they make games/consoles to make money nothing more nothing less.

[Volkama]

I like to think their are some people in the industry that make games because games are their passion, yes. Artists, coders, designers, all passionate about what they do.

But usually the people making the decisions are driven by money.

[chuckyj1]

If you as company CEO. If you don't turn a profit you get replaced. CEO calls the shots the bulk of the shareholders want. Sure the EMPLOYEES of Sony games and MS game Studios love games. But, if they don't turn a PROFIT they face the AXE. Bottom Line the CEO and Shareholders Calling the shots (the only people that matter for BUISNESS decisions) only CARE about Profits and Sustainability.

[drjonesjnr]

Nice article its true ps4 is for the gamers. Microsoft are desperate at this point and slowly but surely becoming irrelevant

[Bryanarchy101]

Sorry, this comment screams idiocy.

[Wikkid666]

Sorry... but Sony is far more desperate than MS. Sony needs to make division profitable once again.

[chuckyj1]

Don't know why you got all the thumbs down. If you look at the two companies (MS and Sony) financial states, MS is much, much more profitable and better off long term. The Xbox/games division is more of a side venture for MS and don't need it to work out for the long term business success of the company. MS could pull-out of the games market and do just fine.

Sony has much more invested and as a whole and has been operating at a loss for far to long. Sony needs the games industry to work out far more than MS does.

Didn't Sony just spin off their cell-phone and Vaio computers... and they could possibly be trimming the fat with the Sony Bravia TVs as well.

Sony needs PS4 to succeed much more than MS needs X1 to succeed it's just the facts.

[Geoff900]

MS make development tools, that PlayStation/PC/Xbox and Wii developers use, they have the biggest share of the operating system market.

Not sure why you are saying MS/Sony etc are becoming irrelevant, and by they way I have heard that for years, and yet MS and Sony are still here...

[XtraTrstrL]

Sony needs to stop vamping us with the only option for music/movie streaming being Music/Video Unlimited on PS4. Alright, you had enough time to get enough frustrated users to go ahead and purchase some subscriptions Sony, now add the dang Music App and the media streaming abilities I have on my PS3 already! It's beyond obvious as to why it's taking so long at this point. It wouldn't be so bad if I wasn't forced to pay $50/yr for online play, but all of it bundled with all the other planned $$$ subscriptions is just ridiculous. Let me stream my stuff already please.

Then Sony can be praised as some make-shift Valve with how much they care about consumers, and maybe somewhere down the line they'll be smart enough to fashion the Playstation Store pricing model after Steam's and bring the Utopia to consoles. I value Mark Cerny for his craftsmanship and foresight in the PS4's design, but I don't think Sony is some saints in general. They are getting better in some ways, but they are still doing annoying stuff like what they're doing to us with MP3/Video playback and all while having Music/Video Unlimited fully integrated and working flawlessly from launch. It's just a little annoying knowing why it's taking so long for that music app and media streaming. It needs to get here ASAP though, the delay and lack of any mention of it is getting ridiculous.

[Speak_da_Truth]

IMO the guy is right about Alan Wake. I am a Playstation guy and I watched the playthrough on YT and its the only reason why I would've owned a 360 also its the only reason why I am courteously looking forward to Quantum break. Cus if Quantum break turns out good it along with Sunset overdrive might push me to get the xbone idk.

[Mr-Dude]

Quantum Break is a game, I looking forward to see more of. Still, there isn't a game for me now on the X1, which would justifie a X1 purchase.

Sunset looks great, but I would be bored pretty quick. It isn't my type of game. Like I said way earlier to Mr. X cult follower Truefan1. Maybe I will buy the X1 in the future, when there a games which I like. For now, it's a big NO

[y7jzdgy]

It's silly how you people label others with stupid names just for liking something different. Especially when the same could easily be said about you.

[Rob_Ko]

Sony <3

[SG1_dapunisherX]

This does not prove anything. new ip can be a hit or a miss...ms gave up to releases new ip, do to the fact xbox gamer didn't even brother to care in the 360 era. same with sony with the ps3, the new ip who made them money was uncharted, tlou and beyond 2 soul. while sequel like lbp infamous resistance, and all-star was a flop. sony right now is doing better business decision then ms that all.

[Software_Lover]

Yeah, ok. If there was no money in gaming for Sony, it would be dumped just like some of their other ventures.

[raymantalk1]

shame on you jbsleek for even asking that question as everyone who plays games IS a gamer whether they own all or only one console or pc or game&watch or whatever.

[JBSleek]

You really took what I said out of context but okay. If you actually read what I said I was referring to the ending remark in the article which was a blatant fanboy statement to rile up fans.

Also I never said you weren't a gamer if you don't own all three consoles so not quite sure where that came from. I said.

"To me if you love gaming you strive to own all three consoles"

Do people just skip over the strive part. No where in my statement did I say you weren't a real gamer for not owning all but did say if you let petty crap like this keep you from playing games then I don't consider you a gamer.

Simple as that. Whether you own one console or all if you let console wars get in your way of enjoying great games you aren't a gamer.

[ShadowWolf712]

That still outright implies that if you don't want to or try to own all three consoles by default, you're not even a gamer.

That's also still a crock. If a system has nothing on it to motivate me to shell out hundreds of dollars on a new console, that makes me no less of a gamer. Nor anyone else.

What you're failing to realize is that no one has taken you out of context, but rather you've more than likely worded your intended statement incorrectly.

[gamertk421]

Slow Sunday, I take it. Bottom line is you can't convince a true Fanboy to change his mind, regardless of argument.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Bravo on all accounts! +bub

[FayZ_]

this is just another fanboy article and both ms & sony just care about profits, let's face the facts, sony are in a 2 billion loss and need to maximise profits, so they copy ms and charge for online, and praise indies because they really need their investment, roll out the rip off rental service ps now rather than using these dedicated servers for online gaming, even killzone no longer is on dedicated servers.

they dropped the camera just because of the hate ms got, they can't afford to take a loss like that. congrats to sony i'm glad they are broke because now they are listening which is why ps4 is a good console, just a shame they games still suck. but will always be my ND & multi plat console

[pornflakes]

MS is bringing the games! With Phil Spencer on the top xbox one gamers will jump ahead the cometition.

[RIP_Cell]

seriously Sony (and any other corp) does not care about you

[turdburgler1080]

This whole thing screams extreme fanboy. I love these websites from nowhere that seem to just appear out of thin air. Poorly designed and hastily assembled. They bash MS then the website just seems to fade away like as if it's some kind of sneak attack by the hardline Sony faithful. These folks give neo cons a run for their money lol.

[Legacy212]

Most random sites no one has ever heard of could swear one of these sony loyalists from n4g made it to bash xbox and make people think actual non bias game journalists are writing these articles.

[sungin]

money all they care

[Legacy212]

Flame bait article...
Next!
Also @nextlevel your big scary exclusive picture doesnt include games that were on pc and xbox such as witcher 2.
Also lets do the comparison list for 360 ans ps3 start of the gen because ps3 had a drought until MGS 4.
These extremem sony fan boys and xbox doom and gloom people are so childish. Go play your console of choice and stop trying to convince people that yours is better. Xbox has brought enough games for xbox one and rebooted old franchises. Its so funny when I read commemts about people talking about sony exclusives but ignore they are on pc or they are a timed exclusive but then attack microsoft about games that are on pc or 360 or timed exclusive. Another thing is people keep saying sony has more exclusives and mention games like samrurai warriors and guilty gear? Where were you guys last gen with the excitement for these games? I have a ps4 I got nothing against sony but when I come here and see these people spread false claims or pick and choose evidence that supports them and ignore other facts to manipulate a point to their argument is pathetic. Grow up and play games and if you think sony loves you huys so much then continue living your little fairy tale.

[Majin-vegeta]

*Also @nextlevel your big scary exclusive picture doesnt include games that were on pc and xbox such as witcher 2.

look at the chart, now back to me, now back at the chart, now back to me.

The chart is outlining games that can "ONLY"be played on a console.

*Another thing is people keep saying sony has more exclusives and mention games like samrurai warriors and guilty gear?

Lol did you actually just ask this??Everyone knows both these series have a niche following and community.Hence why you dont hear much talk about them.Unless you go to the specific forums of the games.

[Legacy212]

Lol at the old spice reference.
Anyways these games dont sell well so it doesnt effect much people. Developer probably didnt feel like learning microsoft system or since they dont sell well on xbox they skipped it. Look at dragon ball xenoverse. Everyone thought it was ps4 exclusive and soon as it got localized in NA it went on X1.
Also again beginning of consoles xbox came hard with exclusives. Also since indies now count as exclusives then 360 had WAAAY more exclusives. You see how many indies or on the 360 store

[parentsbasement]

We get it N4G , Sony does everything right and is just a gift to planet earth and Microsoft does everything wrong and with the xbox one just may have opened a portal to hell.......

[MysticStrummer]

We get. You have no counterpoint so you resort to huge exaggerations.

[BabyTownFrolics]

no that is pretty much the case with N4G, like it or not N4G encourages the worst mob mentalities. No matter which console you like if you want to argue pointlessly this is the place to do it.

[parentsbasement]

There was no point to begin with , so , no counterpoint needed......

[MysticStrummer]

The article makes points. You could disagree and say why, but Instead of making a coherent argument you attack N4G mentality, which of course makes you a perfect example of N4G mentality.

If you have no counterpoint, attack the person who said it or N4G in general.

*slow clap*

Very few people think Sony does everything right and MS does everything wrong. That's just meaningless exaggeration.

[sanosukegtr123]

Sony
- Play-station+ Discount on games and with free games every month (long as you stay a plus member)
- Free online play
- Awesome games
- what else... anyone?

[KinjoTakemura]

Wow. The "Fanboy Force" is strong in this one. I've stated my main reasons as to why Sony has been successful this console cycle more than Microsoft, those reasons are public perception, and consumer based sales. There is no doubt that Sony has cemented it's public image with gamers by being friendly to gamers and developers alike. In this industry it would be foolish to focus on management and CEOs when it's the gamers who are spending 29 billion dollars a year on gaming related products. It would also be foolish to not help developers who make the games that people spend money on. Microsoft has a public perception problem. Last year, they attempted to bully their customers with DRM, meaning Microsoft tried to create a policy that would make it impossible to buy or trade used games. That's just one of the things that has hurt Microsoft's image, now they're trying to overcome the image of their company not being Indie friendly. I think Microsoft needs to stop paying attention to their paper pushers and number crunchers and take a look at what gamers are doing on all platforms and pay attention to the people who are spending the money not the people who are collecting paychecks and salaries from them.

[Provolone24]

This guys lets his opinion show a little too much toward the end, but I couldn't agree more. Tell me, what creative and new IPs has Microsoft given us since launching the first Xbox back in 2001? Not many. Halo, Fable, and Forza all originated on the first Xbox and they're still churning those out to this day. I imagine the meeting went something like this: "Ok, guys. We're gonna make a shooter, an RPG, and a racing game. Then we're just gonna keep making those for the next 15 years. Cool? Alright, good talk."

Sure, those are good franchises, but MS has beaten them to death. And they also landed a few exclusive titles over last gen like Gears and Alan Wake, but, because Sony takes these risks and is willing to take losses, you don't see games like LittleBigPlanet, Uncharted/TLOU, Heavy Rain/Beyond, God of War, and the countless indies on Xbox that you do on Playstation. It is for resasons like this that it continually baffles me when people say "Playstation has no games." It just isn't true.

In a nutshell, Microsoft found a hit in Halo and has pretty much been riding that gravy train ever since. Only now do they seem like they finally realize they need to listen to the consumer (somewhat) and expand their games library, and yet they're still pumping out another Forza, another Fable, and three more Halos...

[AnEwGuY]

Everything MS tries that isn't Halo, Forza, or Fable gets trashed by anti-MS fanboys and wannabe gaming "journalists". Crackdown is a fantastic IP, but has always been dismissed by anyone who never played it, and/or never even owned an XBOX. Same goes for Alan Wake, and so far even Quantum Break. And let's not forget RYSE:SoR...still the most next-gen looking game of this gen, yet according to those who've only seen Youtube videos, it's just sub-1080p garbage. And anyone who actually gave Kinect a real chance, has several games that they enjoyed...yet Kinect is also "garbage" to those who hate everything MS does.
So MS sticks to what is knows it does well, and also what's profitable...which is why they are far more successful and financially stable than Sony is, and ever will be.

[Provolone24]

Not really buying that one. I feel as if non-Playstation fans constantly bash Sony's consoles for "not having any games" when they couldn't be more wrong. You really think MS or Sony allow fanboys and journalists to dictate their moves? Not a chance.

Sony wants to bring new IPs to their console, plain and simple. Look at No Man's Sky, Abzu, Everybody's Gone To The Rapture, Deep Down, Driveclub, Rime, The Order, Bloodborne, Without Memory, The Witness, the list goes on. And they also continue their big franchises like Uncharted, but without driving them into the ground which is why I'm glad Uncharted 4 will be the last one. No matter how great a franchise is, it needs to end at some point. As I stated: Microsoft found success in Halo and got lazy.

[Nightcyberspud]

What a load of bull. I've never had a problem with MS customer service. I've never had to pay for a single repair out of pocket and the stories I've heard from friends in dealing with Sony leads me to believe that they are only customer focused at face level.

[InTheZoneAC]

and how many 360's broke on you?

and how many games could you look forward to in the 2nd half of xbox and xbox 360's life?

and you had to pay for what should've been a free service?

[PrinceOfAllSaiyans]

While all y'all arguing I'll be enjoying both my PS4 and Xbone. :p

[InTheZoneAC]

don't even know how M$ got so many followers, it's amazing there's even one out there that bashes Sony for all they've done with Playstation and forcing M$ to offer more with their overpriced Live service...

[Shinox]

Because Xbox 360 was the cancer of the industry and it harms everything Sony built after the PS2 ( Sony also harm themselves with PS3 price + launch time )
M$ Not only harms gaming , it also harms the Japanese industry specifically exclusive titles coming from big names , Now look how M$ separate Kingdom Hearts / Final Fantasy fans because most of them are picking Xbone version instead of the lead platform , The PS4 version which kinda saddens me that people are no longer being loyal fans to the PS brand , sellouts >_>

[Max-Zorin]

There is no such thing as loyalty. And the fact you called a company a disease that causes abnormal growth in cells is mind baffling.

[marlinfan10]

you guys really never give up do you?'

its really sad how much hate you have built up for a company because you think they're greedy or w/e but then you blow sony, who's just as greedy as MS lol. at the end of the day, they could care less about you or me, they care about their wallets. plain and simple. you're absolutely delusional if you think they really care about us.

[InTheZoneAC]

who talks like this?

[KakashiHotake]

I'm sure this article is going to sink right into the hearts of Xbox Fans and resurface in the form of rage. I agree with the author and share similar feelings about the whole ordeal. I remember when Xbox One was 1st announced and there was a backlash unlike anything I've ever witnessed before, but at the same time i didn't blame people for being pissed with the crap Microsoft was trying to pull. Yet even then there was Xbox fans still supporting and defending doing damage control at every corner. I could never understand the logic that goes to defending a brand that's trying to screw you. I guess it's the same logic as women with an abusive bf that just keeps coming back to him. No matter how you look at it, it makes no sense. Not saying that Sony are some kind of saints but on a business/ consumer level they did a fantastic job and the sales figures prove it.

[Nicominoru]

@kivespussi

If people weren't paying for the meat & potatoes of PSN. I think the online service would be a nightmare for us, the money is going to helping them sustain only integrity and to supporting the new features we have. All last gen we got to enjoy online play without a monthly subscription service and thankfully we still can on the PS3. The online subscription fee is still cheaper than the competitors, and F2P(DC Universe Online), P2P(Final Fantasy: ARR), Apps like Netflix, Crunchyroll and PSN Functionality is still available to you even if you don't pay.

9.99 a month or 19.99 for 3 months isn't a bad deal especially considering you get to keep your PS Plus titles and the subscription is for PS3, PS4 and PSVita. No one wants to pay to access games online functionality, but now since we have to with the new generation at least we aren't getting the crap end of the stick. It could be a lot worse.

[Majin-vegeta]

It's actually $17.99 :3

http://ecx.images-amazon.co...

[rainslacker]

Best bet with PS+ is if you can wait until around the holidays, a lot of retailers discount it to around $30-40 for a year. Got two years worth for $70 last holiday. Of course means you have to have the means to take advantage of a deal, which is always true.

[hkgamer]

urghhh... why do people bother reading these articles. low rate authors talking about another article that was from a low rate author/website.

[snookiegamer]

I'm confident Microsoft know what they're doing, so I have no comment regarding Microsoft.

However, after just 8-9 months since the (highly anticipated) PS4 launch. I already feel like it's (potentially) the best Console I ever owned. Period!

..and I've owned a ton of Consoles ;)

[ghostface9]

ya sony cared about the customer when they fixed peoples ps3 consoles after getting the yellow light of death oh wait no they didn't that's why friend switched from a ps3 to xbox 360 cause sony didn't even care to help him out when his console broke because of there malfunctioning console. Also and bringing up journey like it was impossible to come out on the 360 is idiotic where do you think indies started out on the console space that was on xbox. Alan wake would have done better on the ps3 is this a joke theres a reason remedy has stayed with xbox and thats because they love working with them. And on top of that did he completely forget sony pricing their console at 600 dollars and when people said that's way too much they told them to go get a second job. Sony trolls like the guy who wrote this article are the cancer of gaming

[SaintAlpha101]

I like how pretty much every comment on here has almost exactly the same amount of agrees and disagrees.
Guess the fan boys have arrived in full swing.

I sometimes wonder if these types of wars exist in other activities, like cooking.
"I prefer Camembert Cheese over Wensleydale Cheese.
Come at me, Wensleyponies."

[gokuking]

If Sony truly cared, why do they treat Vita and its owners like trash?

[EvilWay]

Sony cares only about the customer (gamer) and not about themselves............

Sony doesn't care about the gamer, they are just falling in a hug financial hole and that is the only way to stay afloat

[kenshiro100]

What does that have to do with the article?

Stop acting like you work for Sony and know about their financials. You don't own a stake in their company.

[Flames76]

Guess thats why the PS3 was $599 in 06 and guess thats why the PS4 has no games.They have no exclusives coming out this holiday.Sorry but that dont sound like they care about their fans.So sorry pathetic sony fanboy nice try but you fail again.I knew sony is in trouble going bankrupt in 2015 but these articles are just getting pathetic.Yes the Xbox divison has been making profit since september 2007.Yes the X1 has been making profit since day one.Yes the Xbox division profits was up 14% ending march 31.Yes its true xbox live is best online service around and you get better deals.Yes the playstation division has lost over 6 billion since 2006 with no profit at all in that time.Yes sony lost another 1.2 billion ending march 31 this year.Yes $200 million was from a loss on the playstation divison.Yes psn is always down.So enough of these sad articles about sony.Real gamers just want to play games while trash like yourself cant except the truth sony is going under.Thats not microsofts fault just because they have a better system.With that said play what you want and what you like.Just shut the hell up with garbage like this

[D-riders]

Wow this guy has no clue about anything. This is my problem with Xbox fanboys. The reason the psi was 600 was cause of bluray. Which now is almost standard. And Sony did what gave it away with a system for 600. Do you research before you talk. Then you go on to comment about the Playstation brand not being profitable. Well there is another comment of you not knowing anything. The play station brand is the only thing that has been profitable for sony. The other industries are strugguling. Then you talk about the exclusives this year. Which is another silly argument. Be cause here your only talking AAA. Psi exclusives not mom or double A exclusive or indy. If you do your research there is actually one more exclusive being released this fall than ms is giving. God fan boys are like republican rednecks. Talk a bunch of shit with no facts

[tommygunzII]

Xbox must be radiating something that is making these folks simple.

[DigitalRaptor]

It's almost like the stupidity of every Xbox fanboy was rolled up into one all-encompassing comment and implanted into Flames76's brain. Either that or he is just dropped on his head as a young child.

PS4 has more games than the Xbone. FACT.

PS4 has had more exclusives in 2014 so far than Xbone. FACT.

PS4 has just as many exclusives in 2014 as Xbone. FACT.

PS4 has 3 AAA exclusives in early 2015, and Xbone has none. FACT.

PS4 will have more games than Xbone in 2015 and forever. FACT.

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Sony has a $20 billion market cap, and over $150 billion in assets alone.

Sony could lose $1.2 billion every year for the next 20 years and still be in business. They could have another 2 gaming generations and still be providing value for the consumer and the gamer.

Four generations running and PlayStation has been the stronger global gaming brand, that Xbox will never get the chance to be. Last gen was as close as they'll ever come to "beating" Sony, so if they can't beat Sony at their weakest, how do you estimate that they get a foothold now they're back on form?

Somehow REALITY is garbage, but your cement mix of absolute drivel is not? Go and get your brain checked, son. Too much of it has been scrambled by worthless anti-Sony propaganda.

[rainslacker]

They also had a $499 model, which also had more features than the Xbox at the time which was at $399. In fact, to get a comparable Xbox(Blu-Ray equivalent excluded) would have cost more than $499. Value huh? At least MS had their arcade version for less, but boy was it stripped of features.

I do love how this argument keeps coming up, all while people such as yourself ignore the $499 version. The only thing lost from that $499 PS3 was a bigger hard drive, which cost about $100 more for the bigger version back then.

Funny how this gen no one has really said much about how MS is screwing over the customer by charging $499 for their current console on release. It's such a value because it comes with Kinect right? Explain how that's different than Sony offering new blu-ray technology at a relatively low price.

This holiday Sony has LBP3 and Driveclub for 1st party this holiday, and quite a few 3rd party exclusives. Really people need to get over the tired argument of "It has no games". They tried it with the Vita, and now the PS4. It hasn't been true either time.

You may want to look up the overall "profit" of the Xbox division. You will find it's not quite that clear cut. MS lost 1 billion in one failed swoop for their 360 replacement plan. They wrote it off in one quarter, so it didn't affect the profits in following years. Look at the overall profitability of the Xbox division. It's not as outstanding as you make it out to be. Then there's all the R&D involved. Realistically, if MS hadn't charged for XBL, the Xbox division would be a sinkhole for money going down the drain.

Sony isn't going under. It's obvious you don't know how business works. Sony main parent company is worth almost 16 billion. It's other divisions collectively were worth about 14 billion last time I looked. That's a long ways off from being bankrupt.

[S2Killinit]

very true.

[sebzhd]

PS for gamers, xbox for casuals. right.

[sin7279]

how more ?? ??? stupid journalists!

[D-riders]

100% agreed,

[B_Real]

My hat goes off the MS and Sony for making people think they give two shits about them. Listen, they are a business, they try to manipulate you by making you feel like they care to increase brand loyalty. If Sony announced that they would be pricing PS4 games at 100 bucks, I guarantee most gamers would lose their shit and trade in their PS4's, while MS would talk about how loyal they are to gamers and their need for affordable games. Sony pounced on MS when they made their poor DMR policy and kinect-included decisions and was able to manipulate less astute gamers, but I still remember the $600 PS3 and the "get a second job" comment. I bought both systems and will support the good games with purchases. I don't care about caring, I care about performance, just make good games, and you have my money and that is all that should matter.

[RosweeSon]

PS+ is still mandatory for online though. Don't see any reason to have it that way but cash.

True that it's awesome they give great games like Resogun and for cheap. Still, doesn't justify multiplayer being behind a paywall.

Said some moron, xbox live have been doing it for years (I was with gold for best part of 7 years) and what do you get for your £40 a year not a lot other than being able to play on xbox live and download demos early, I'd rather take the free games that come with ps+ any day of the week, saves me literally hundreds of £'s in the 6-9 months I've been signed up over 3 systems, xbox is finally getting there took over 6 months on xbox one but it's too little too late on xbox 360, the games are getting better now but they were awful to start with, I wouldn't have even bothered for free, as I say they are better now but got a massive list on my ps3 so I'll be retiring my xbox 360 very soon and playing through all my free games. Metal gear Raiden chappy, far cry 3 remember me amongst others, who cares if there not 9/10 10/10 games they are free!

[kenshiro100]

At the end of the day, you could say all Sony cares about is money. But it solely depends on what they've done to earn that money.

Interesting article.

[zero_gamer]

MS is just more up-front about their bottom line than Sony. All the so-called kind gestures from Sony are nothing more than PR. Can't blame them, but it is what it is. The fact is both companies don't care for the gamer anymore than the money in their wallet.

[OiNioB]

Delusional is an understatement for this articles comments.

Sony cares about Money just like any other company.

The thing is their bleeding money right now, better believe they're going to try there hardest to make it back, even if it requires continuous jabs at the competition or caving to any and every complaint from their customers.

In the end its all about money how some of you still don't realize this is baffling...

[tommygunzII]

I can't imagine the gaming industry if MS called the shots, I probably wouldn't be a gamer because gaming would be one of the biggest scams in entertainment.
Sony on the other hand has proven throughout history that they will not take advantage of the customer and has even given the finger to shareholders in favor of their customers.

Edit: Love how MS fans keep saying they are BOTH businesses trying to make money and that they don't care for the gamer, shows how abused MS's customers are and how much hope they have lost.

[rainslacker]

It's apparent in some people's minds that companies can't make money and try to please their customers at the same time. It's always a, "Companies will screw over everyone for money" scenario.

[Trekster_Gamer]

Sony cares to not tell you that there was system was hacked on the ps3 ....
They cared enough to remove more features than they added on the ps3...

Yeah they cared..

[jams_shop]

I'm sure a lot of people see this way too. Me, I'm a PlayStation guy and always will be. So what Microsoft does or doesn't do means very little to me. Many would say that Sony wouldn't be what they are today if it wasn't for Microsoft. I would say that Microsoft's game division is what it is in response to PlayStation.

[Silly gameAr]

With all of these dup accounts, fud and a certain person with X in his name, N4G has become bonkers. And not in a good way like the cartoon.

[xx4xx]

Obvious click bait trash article.
They both care about one thing = profit.

I remember Sony's version of caring about gamers.
When I had my PS3 it took them 4 weeks to let everybody know they had been hacked and veggie card info was stolen. 4 weeks!!! Yes, they care about gamers.

[McScroggz]

For those that say both are businesses, and both just want to make money: of course that is true. But there are very successful companies that put customer satisfaction as a primary goal to increase business. Amazon and Valve are two great examples. They both make a ton of money, and both emphasize making customers happy.

Sony, or at least the PlayStation branch, have been working towards the same goal of making the consumer happy. It's still not perfect, but I do genuinely feel like Sony does wants to do what they can to make their customers happy and earn some brand loyalty.

Luckily, I honestly think Phil Harrison wants to make Xbox gamers happy. It's too soon to feel like I can trust his vision, but it's absolutely a great start.

[NixonMonoxide]

Hahahah! OMG, the amount of gamersheep on here is truly remarkable. SONY cares about you? REALLY?

Blind fools will always be blind. PS+ titles are NOT free. Lmao @ online behind a paywall. Releasing a PS4 with arguably less functionality than the PS3, no games, no online access....... But HEY! We got indies & re-released PS3 titles. 1080/60FPS!! 1800P/660FPS!

You can't even play your fucking ps3 games, both digitally & physical.

Oooh well, at least they're policies are not as shitty as Microsoft's so, we might as well continue bending over and justifying the mediocre next gen brick.

Open wide sheep.

[Gamer666]

And this is why Sony cares more about gamers than Microsoft....

If Sony loses PS revenue they go broke.

[kenshiro100]

What's Playstation revenue? Explain. You clearly don't know how much Sony is worth, do you?

[Gamer666]

Sony has a ton of patents and is worth many 10's of billions of dollars with a substantial cash reserve of 10's of billions of dollars.

How much they worth is irrelevant. Shareholders who demand profits for their investments demand profitability. Sony cannot continue to lose money as they have for many years without shareholders demanding changes.

Sony has already sold of their HQ office and several manufacturing plants. If they don't get profitable soon, shareholders will force them to liquidate more IP and assets to maintain share price.

If PS was a losing proposition as well, shareholders would've demanded more sell offs.

Listen, Sony isn't going broke tomorrow or even 5 years from now. But, if PS is not profitable and the rest of the company is not profitable, then changes are in order. Nothing is sacred then.

[PhucSeeker]

Who care that anybody care for anyone . Remember the old day ? Ps2 took the lead Xbox came out with bunch of exclusive (though not as much as the ps2). Then X360 took the lead Ps3 got bunch of awesome exclusives . Now Ps4 is taking the lead and i'm very excited for what M$ can do for the Xbone .
And Nin's system is all about exclusives so go buy a Wii U , NOW .

[Revengeance]

Only intelligent gamers know this fact. They always have and always will. As for MS they are just now trying to win back gamers after trying to screw them over, including MS loyalists.

[DeadManMMX]

Oy I would be fine with this as an opinion piece if not for one thing. The article states that they ignored the Red Ring of Death for four years to get people to make repeat purchases. I'll say it once and I'll say it again ANYONE who bought another console within the first four years was an idiot. They were either an idiot or simply to lazy to send the console in and have it replaced for free. Microsoft extended the warranty on ALL original model Xbox 360 consoles by 3 years. This on top of the original year offered and within that frame of time also released the Slim model with Wifi that didn't suffer from the problem. They also took all consoles with no need for a receipt bought first or secondhand. I keep seeing people make that excuse as to why the console sold so well and its silly. Were some people to lazy or uninformed to send their console away only to receive a fixed one a week later? yes. I thanked those stupid people every time I think back at how I bought them for 20 or 30 bucks on ebay for years only to send them in and recieve a perfectly working console. I feel like MS rectified that situation reasonably. Not like my first PS3 that got stuck in a boot loop on a routine update that they wouldn't fix without me paying 135.

[Machiavellian]

Maybe I m missing something but Sony has closed down about 4 studios in the last couple of years. On the other hand MS has opened about the same number of studios. If anything Sony does not take a loss for long and will close down studios that are dragging down the bottom line. Actually the whole article is a joke. Sony is not a charity just like many have already siad. Sony has and will close down studios that are not performing which I guess this article forgot to mention.

[kenshiro100]

http://kotaku.com/5929141/m...
http://www.gamespot.com/art...
http://www.polygon.com/2013...

Are you seriously implying that Microsoft doesn't close down studios?

Again, what does this have to do with the article?

[SH1ELD]

That's why I like to keep my PS stuff because they have special place in my heart.

[Lennoxb63]

I never cared whether a company cared for me or not. The only connection that me and that company has is, I exchange money for said product/service that I want. That's it. If the product/service doesn't apply to my needs anymore, than I stop buying that product/service. I am the same way with both MS and Sony. So this "opinion" about Sony cares more about gamers IMO is stupid.

[Adolph Fitler]

From a personal standpoint as a gamer, Sony really have ALWAYS delivered with EVERY generation they've been in the console biz.... I was 20 or so, when I 1st got hold of PS1, & it was a kickass, groundbreaking machine, & although NO console has given me that feeling of awe again since, because of the HUGE deal of transitioning from 2D, to 3D, & some of the iconic, groundbreaking, truly awesome games that came from PS1, Sony have still delivered in SPADES, with EVERY gen... The real beauty is how they constantly move onto & encourage there 1st parties & 3rd party exclusive developers to move on, & come up with new ip's, instead of doing that whole Nintendo thing... Sure, they do also keep some IP's going & sequel up, with certain titles, BUT, EVERY GEN, Sony are the ONLY company that deliver a completely NEW IP that is considered to be BEST OF.... PS1 had MORE than 1 with MGS's re-imagining, then Resident Evil 1&2, Soul Edge, Bushido Blade, Tekken, Syphon Filter, Medievil, GT, Tomb Raider, Wipeout, Tobal, Einhander, RayStorm, Twisted Metal, & this list could just go on & on. PS2 then delivered GTA3 (the 1st 3D GTA game, & almost as mind blowing as the huge leap from SNES's 2D games, to PS's 3D shift), then Timesplitters, DMC, Jak & Daxter, Ratchet, GOW, Ico, SOTC, Socom, etc, etc, again PS2, like PS1, just oozed masses of quantity & quality games libraries... Then PS3, even though hated on to comical level, by the general gaming media & rabid fanboys alike, PS3 delivered, from MGS4 & KZ2 to new the new IP's I said they constantly come up with, like TLOU, Motorstorm, etc, etc, & not to mention brilliant re-imaginings like Warhawk/Starhawk, etc, etc.

Even Sony's 2 handhelds have been more in line with delivering on my personal tastes, than Nintendo's... I mean, I own a PSP & a PSVita, & I also bought my 5yo gal a 3DS, & it is a great little device for young kids, BUT, even with a more limited library on PSVita, due to it's criminally low sales no.s... Buy this damn thing people, you won't regret owning this little powerhouse, if you can throw your Sony hate aside, as it has SOME BRILLIANT, original titles, & the underated feature of being able to crossbuy, as well as the masses of back catalogue gems from PSP, PS2 & PSone.
If enough people smarten up, put prejudice aside, they will love this machine & it's PS3 & PS4 cross user-ness.

[XxGOWxX]

People forget sony is a business. they dont care about gamers. they have to pretend to care to get your money. MS is rich and doesnt have to be in your face looking like theyre trying really hard to win fans. theyre only trying harder than usual lately because of their PR blunders. sony is losing money and the easiest way to make money is do what fans want asap at the risk of losing innovations. If sony were still making money they never would have backed out of DRM at the start of this generation. Sony push the whole "we love indie" thing because that lets them save money on developing their own games. These things are so obvious but fan boys are so blind they cant see whats happening.

[Droidbro]

And this is why this site sucks nowadays: constant Sony romance articles.

[Picnic]

I'm all for praising Sony after the tough but highly worthwhile turnaround that the PS3 had at a time when Microsoft were coasting on early sales of the Xbox360.

But this kind of very simplistically argued article is now out of date.

New Xbox One head Phil Spencer openly praises Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft are making in roads in to making indie games with Ori and the Blind Forest and getting timed exclusivity on Inside.

The argument that Alan Wake might have sold better on Playstation actually does nothing to advance their argument. Alan Wake is one of the very risks that Microsoft took. So the argument claims that Microsoft don't make risks and then doesn't like them when they do! It ended up selling 3 million. It might surprise people to learn that, because of increased competition in 'artsy games' on the PS3, it wouldn't necessarily have sold as much on PS3 as an exclusive. As an multiformat perhaps it might have but Remedy have decided to be console exclusive. As will Quantum Break. Remedy can be a big deal to some people, myself included.

Another risk was letting Rare make Banjo Kazooie : Nuts and Bolts in to to a vehicle creation racer meets platform game. If that's not one of the most eccentric risks of the last generation I don't know what is. And some people with more interest in construction than I have love that game.

Yes Sony's kinds of risks were more numerous in indie games. Plus Heavy Rain and Beyond Two Souls.
But Sony fans en masse are still not necessarily all Einsteins. They go on about Journey without massively mentioning other console exclusive indie games such as Papo and Yo and The Unfinished Swan.

There is no point to that article at this stage in time. Quantic Dream haven't even announced their next game yet.
Meanwhile lots of people are excited about Sunset Overdrive.

Of course the PS4 is likely to have a bright future. But, if anything, the history of Xbox has been littered with some intriguing risks such as Grabbed by the ghoulies.

[bangoskank]

Another dumb fanboy article. Wake up and pull your heads out of your asses. All these companies care about is making money. They aren't concerned with what you want.
If Sony cared about their gamers they would have fully supported The Last Guardian and that game would have been released by now.

[blib]

Both MS and Sony are huge multinational electronics companies that care about money, and that's it. Anyone that suggests otherwise is fooling himself/herself. Go write some comments about your favourite oil companies or banks. Sheep.

[oSHINSAo]

SONY cares more about gameres thant microsoft...

Has no games XD

Fking logic, they should care more for their employees

[BillmadeAGate]

Read Heading and immediately knew the comment section was more interesting ¥_^

[Artemidorus]

This person is a clown, He didn't mention how at the start of RROD people had 12 months to make a claim and get it repaired for free at the start, didn't mention they redesigned the console both inside and out years later.

PSN lost 77 million accounts information and it's no doubt still around the internet as we speak. http://en.wikipedia.org/wik... for details.

Sony are the same as Microsoft, provides products and services.

N4G is showing it's true colours allowing this garbage.