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Opinion: PlayStation E3 2018 – Great but not worth the E3 crown

The PlayStation conference just ended and Gaming Boulevard concluded it was a great showcase but due to the lack of a big surprise, the crown remains in the Xbox camp.

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Gazondaily2147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

I think the games did the talking. Really excellent showing although I have some questions about Death Stranding.

Spiderman looks MAD.

TLOU 2 looks next gen.

Ghosts looks sick

But the presentation/format of the show was way weaker than Xbox. Don't like this format of overly long talking but luckily the main thing were the games. And stuff looks great.

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pwnmaster30002147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

Agree, it was a good show but the presentation killed it. Not necessary for that music show in the beginning. Like I said in my other comments, I doubt Sony will show off some new games. They don’t need to. The 4 exclusives were enough for me. They were probably one of the best things to be shown in E3. I don’t really care for the other stuff since they already have several studios. I think this E3 was for Xbox, since they had the most to prove.

imo, both Sony and Microsoft was on the same level. Just depends what company you like better and what kind of games you like. If your a Sony fan, Microsoft conference didn’t change your mind to get a Xbox and if your a micro fan, Sony conference didn’t change your mind to get a ps4. I give both B+

-Foxtrot2147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

The way I see it, put all the multiplatform games shown at Microsoft's E3 and inject them into Sony's presentation...then think about them both if you want to do comparisons.

I wouldn't have liked to have seen the exact same trailers as it would come off as filler and people would still moan.

rainslacker2147d ago

The music was there to build anticipation for what they were about to show. In both instances it was obvious what was coming.

While I think live performances such as that are wasteful when they could be showing the game, they do add to the experience.

In Sony's favor, at least these live performances aren't cringeworthy like at every other conference where the music tends to only appeal to a single type of audience, because the music Sony has tends to be more universal

SpaceRanger2147d ago

How was the presentation/format weaker?
All they did was show games and gameplay. No PR, no rambling on phrases we hear every year, or unnecessary presentations.

Not enough cgi or vague trailers?

Concertoine2147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

The "pre-show" ran like 35 minutes into the presentation and it felt like they were padding even more than MS' stage talk. These table talks dont usually happen til after the show, with good reason.

They even said not to expect much from this conference at this pre-show which was frankly kind of strange

Then it was just back-to-back trailers which is cool, but it wouldve been cool to see some of these devs elaborate on their games. Seeing the DMC 5 dev go up there and tell fans he was making the game we've all been wanting was pretty hype and lent confidence to the game.

rainslacker2147d ago

There was a whole ten minute break after tlou where they had staged commentary doing noting but pr.

However, I think many people, including myself, thought the conference started with tlou. When it was actually started after the intermission. After the break, the pacing was fine, albeit short, and there were a couple games I feel they could have spent more time than a trailer on. Kh3 got a.lot of time, and as much as I am looking forward to that game, it's already gotten a lot of time before e3, and at ms conference.

J-DARKnes2147d ago

Not enough 30 cgi, I mean Microsoft shows no gameplay of halo and people go crazy. The gameplay from ori was cool but everything else was meh, also why would Sony show the same games every else showed at e3? RE2 remake was a nice surprise and control by remedy also.

XtaZ2147d ago

Twitch chat was literally spamming and begging them to shut the fuck up with all their smalltalk and continue with the game showcase. The smalltalk dragged on for sooo long.

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RpgSama2147d ago

Sony easily won, The games looked on a whole other level than the competition, Microsoft may have showed more third party games, but at the end of the day their conference was more Forza, Gears + Halo.

Concertoine2147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

The 5 new studios (of which 3 i’d call a big deal since the others were second party devs) is a big win for the MS conference.

Yeah, this shouldve happened years ago but still, this inspires confidence in my Xbone purchase for the first time in a while. Also, Playground games’ new open world IP is a solid announcement that i think youre overlooking.

Greg28012147d ago

@concertoine

Its great for microsoft to have new studios, but it takes years to make games. So you wil probably not play them on the xbox you have now.

It was a good conference for the future of xbox, but not for right now

Dark_Knightmare22147d ago

@concertoine how were the other three a big deal when one doesn’t have even more than one employee and won’t have nothing to show for a long time and the other two have released nothing but mediocre games besides hellblade from ninja

blackblades2147d ago

Don't forget control and nioh 2

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Christopher2147d ago

That choice in having a stage change was a horrible decision and not worth the atmospheric representation with TLoUP2.

Games shown were good, but no new dates on anything and some games should have a release date and have been on that stage in some way (Dreams).

The 10th Rider2147d ago

Yeah, at the very least couldn't they have set it up so that they can host the entire conference there? That intermission was close to 15 minutes long. What an absolutely awful way to start a conference and it killed the momentum from that TLOU2 showing.

rainslacker2147d ago

My thing with that is that the atmosphere is only relevant to those in attendance. A couple thousand vs the millions watching world wide. Those watching didn't get that experience, and we didn't even get go hear the crowds reaction. They even made it seem like the crowd didn't react at all. Those millions watchinthere treated to an intermission with staged or talk, with info that wasn't all that interesting, and a COD trailer.

Terrible decision on Sony's part, but at least the rest of the conference was good.

hulk_bash19872147d ago

Why they were relegating Dreams to transitions between trailers is beyond me. MM are trying to create something amazing and they aren't getting enough attention. The games that were shown blew me away, but the presentation itself was just average.

Ceaser98573612147d ago

Well Sony said it way before E3 that they will focus on only 4 exclusives mainly and it wont be like the traditional e3 they do and will be little different.. So i was well prepared and loved the 4 big AAA games.. Sony is already in the driver seats and they can enjoy that luxury because they are doing so well... and these 4 AAA games along with Days gone will do very very well for Sony and most of them are system sellers too ...

gangsta_red2147d ago

The thing is MS just showed way more impressive and better games. Even their multiplat selection was better shown off on their stage.

It was great that Sony actually showed gameplay for their games which I have always said should be what E3 is about. But besides TLOU and Spider-Man the others didn't really build any excitement for me personally.

Control and RE 2 was also good but Death Stranding and especially that VR game were terrible the rest of the show could use a better format for next year.

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pwnmaster30002147d ago

Let’s be real here. The best game they showed were multiplat. your telling me what they showed for gears, halo, forza is better then tlou2, ghost of t, Spider-Man, and death stranded.

You don’t know anything of death stranded yet. They just finally showed us a little bit of gameplay and it looked beautiful.

I’m knocking Microsoft because I thought they were just as good but most of the games showed were multiplat

Goldby2147d ago

@septic

It was also very evident that both companies not only had two difference messages to say in regards to their show but also the philosophy I think.

MS had how many computers on screen just showing titles of the game showing on the bug screen, huge lights and multiple stage enterences. Not saying that's a bad thing, just that's how they do it, flair and lights.

Sony instead focused on 4 titles, 5 if you include the dreams clips, and wanted to create a show that matched that, more intimate experience between Sony and the audience, now saying Shawn wasn't scripted, but it felt more like a conversation between Sony and the players versus Phil's sales pitch or self evaluation.

That may be just because I have heard and said who knows how many self evaluations in my life.

rainslacker2147d ago

I think death stranding is the kind of game you'll have questions about even after you've played it. Seems like a really atmospheric mind f**k kind of game in true kojjma fashion.

I wouldn't expect to have many questions answered before release, but I'm sure more questions will be presented.

monkey6022147d ago

I had a feeling Microsoft was going to have a better showing. They had an excellent night and it was very much needed for them. The Xbox games individually don't stack up against the PlayStation ones. There is a quality in them that is just unrivalled. But Microsoft had a more exciting night.

In terms of the Last of Us looking next gen. I'm seriously starting to consider that it is next gen

ziggurcat2147d ago

I'm excited for the new Remedy game, too.

imtiyaz62147d ago

MS had a better e3 showing and some great unveilings but when you look at the bigger picture, PS owners will be playing 90% of the games showed on ms’s conference and their own exclusives. By the end of next year Ps fans will have Tlou2, days gone, ghost of tshushima and Spider-Man to play while Xbox will only have another Halo, gears and forza

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Muzikguy2147d ago

E3 is about games. Sony had them. I don’t know what else they should’ve done

terrorofdeath2147d ago

Didn't like the in between format of the show. Having everybody in one tent just for the LOU2 trailer then moving everybody to the other tent for the rest of the show, then it finishes with a panel talking about the games - making me think that there was still another part of the show to be seen.

I don't know, it just seemed all over the place. And seemed like the show was more for the people physically at the expo.

pinkcrocodile752146d ago

I liked the games coming from both conferences, though I wasnt a fan of the inbred banjo player the pipe blowing soloist mind.

I loved the new studios announced, which is what we needed to hear, the hint of xbox 2 was nice too albeit coming nearly a year after Shawn Layden hinted at PS5.

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hench072147d ago

Easily worst conference of 2018. Was less than an hour if you take out the "intermission"

The 10th Rider2147d ago

Not great, but worst is hyperbole. Square Enix's was 90% unnecessary and EA's was pure trash . . . hard to get much worse than either of those.

ObviousGoldfish2147d ago

Definitely worst except for the lesbian antics

-Foxtrot2147d ago

So what? Add in all the third party titles and the same trailers we've already seen, most of them being at Microsofts, Bethesda or Ubisofts?

It added onto the game portfolio...and if they showed new games, ones not ready then people would complain they are "showing games too early". Can't win.

PapaBop2147d ago

Worse than EA's? Come on, at least Sony actually showed their games in action, for that alone puts it above EAs. The presentation was horrible that's for sure but at the end of the day, the games they properly showcased was by far the best games shown at E3 so far. Ghosts of Tsushima was absolutely mind blowing, as a fan of Samurai movies, the combat looked incredible and those visuals were insane.

Platformgamer2147d ago

worse because of the lenght? are you on crack?

AnubisG2147d ago

Not worst this year. But it is the worst Playstation E3 conference in the past 8-10 years or so.

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DarkVoyager2147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

I agree. Xbox had the better E3. Sony showed great games but it was far too short and there wasn’t and surprises or anything. Pretty disappointed. I didn’t like how they did the show this time around.

Baza2147d ago

Oh yeah, you’re right. Sony showed better games. Microsoft’s better E3 presentation is gonna sell tons of systems!

bolimekurac2147d ago

but only spiderman comes out this year, looks awesome but the other main games are far far away in the future

Greg28012147d ago

It was far to short beacause sony did not show 30 multiplat titles...

The gameplay sony showed was on a whole other level then anything i have seen before.

I do agree with the format of the show, they shouldve work that out a lil bit better.

But overall sony won it easily for me

Lokii2147d ago

Only reason it was shorter is because sony didn't fill it with stupid buzz words and lies. Sony wins again.

-Foxtrot2147d ago

I thought it was pretty decent for being a smaller show

One of the better shows this year

AnubisG2147d ago

No, this was bad. You can't even call this a show. They might as well could just uploaded a video of the games to youtube and be done with it.

-Foxtrot2147d ago

Presentation sucked but I enjoyed the games.

They did say it was going to be a smaller show ages ago and constantly reminded us.

AngelicIceDiamond2147d ago

So understand Sony has the crown this gen. With many consoles sold and their games fly off store shelves. They have nothing else to prove this gen, as arrogant that sounds, its pure truth sorry. They can afford to take it easy and really not do to much tbh no point they're giving what gamers want.

Sunny_D2147d ago

What kind of hyperbole is that? Are you forgetting that they showed us never before seen gameplay of 3 highly anticipated games we have yet to see? That alone was worth the wait.

The 10th Rider2147d ago

Great? They literally didn't show a single new first party game. The only thing that saved it is that EA and Square Enix had such awful conferences and Ubisoft didn't impress much either.

neocores80552147d ago

lol sorry they are not xbox. All the 1st party studios are working ON GAMES lol but u would not understand ur so us to that xbox lol

The 10th Rider2147d ago

I don't even own an Xbox . . .

porkChop2147d ago

Yeah, the first party teams are working on games but didn't *show* them. That's kinda the problem. We know Sony make fantastic games, that's why we wanted to see and hear about them. But they didn't show much.

remixx1162147d ago

They honestly didnt need to show any new games cuz we barely new about the ones they had announced, really they just needed to do a better job of presenting it.

The last of us 2 and ghost was mind blowing and spidey was near top teir as well.

But death stranding didnt show much, no release date for dreams and the weird first half hour really pulled it down a peg.

DialgaMarine2147d ago

They’re going to announce everything their studios are working on at the same time. This is a process of of having a few games to talk about at a time, so that it’s easier to maintain attention and avoid the titles canibalizing each other’s hype, and then announce the next wave as each game draws closer to release. Guarantee we’ll likely get release windows for TLoU2, GoT, and DS at PGW and PSX, along with some new game announcements. As it stands, Sony is still on top of the exclusives game.

Greg28012147d ago (Edited 2147d ago )

Why do they need to show a new one? They already have enough first party games coming.

They showed us gameplay of their big games that are coming up.

A new first party title will probably be for the ps5 anyway.

And Nioh 2 was a great surprise.

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein22h ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii18h ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo17h ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows9017h ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

Michiel19898h ago

Not sure why you're getting agrees. an awful lot of console gamers are overemotional twinks ready to go to war over a plastic box, I'll take being a pc gamer then.

Speaking about overgeneralizing much.

qalpha18h ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno17h ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan17h ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno16h ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life198117h ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

SegaSaturn6698h ago

I never liked refunding anything. Even if a film is bad, i dont want my money back. Sometimes things just aren't for me, and it's not the creator's fault necessarily.

Gaming4Life19813h ago

I feel you and i have never walked out on a bad movie cause I payed my money. I also don't refund games cause I'm a gamer and I know what to buy lol. I think having a digital refund is great.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto2d ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger882d ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb19811d 21h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein1d 20h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 22h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 22h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 17h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga2d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 10h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921d 5h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21832d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 22h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d 18h ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 11h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 17h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 17h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1d 6h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan21h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 16h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac2d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 17h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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