Xbox defends E3 line-up: 'We wanted to show games people can buy soon'

Microsoft has explained its decision to reveal just a handful of games at last month’s E3 games show.

The firm showed new trailers for a series of previously announced titles at E3, while the new game surprises at the show came in the form of Dead Rising 4, the expected Forza Horizon 3 and State of Decay II.

[Automatic79]

No need to defend fantastic lineup with Inside, We Happy few, Cuphead, Below, Recore, Forza Horizon 3, Gears of War 4, Dead Rising 4. I can't wait to play.

[christocolus]

I'm going to be broke cos I plan to get all those games including cuphead and we have Sea of thieves, Ashen , Crackdown 3, Scalebound and Halo Wars 2 all releasing first quarter next year. my wallet will cry.

[Abash]

The criticism of MS's games line-up at E3 is that there was no new game announcement that made people flip out the way God of War PS4, Days Gone, Spider-Man PS4, and Zelda: Breath of the Wild did.

[freshslicepizza]

@Abash

zelda was shown for multiple years, not sure how that is a new announcement. forza horizon 3 was a new announcement and it looks fantastic but i think ms could have shown more games they are working on. maybe the next game show they will.

the fact is no matter what ms does they get blasted by forum members. the prior 2 years before this e3 it was all about game after game at e3. did everyone come to the consensus it was a great e3 for them? no, you will always have your anti-ms/xbox vocal group out there.

oh and sea of thieves looks awesome, great to see rare back.

[Tobsesan]

@Shin-Zantetsuken

Funny because MS didnt show Scalebound, Crackdown 3, Fable Legends, Phantom Dust, We Happy Few this and last year.
They showed us great new games like Forza Horizon 3, Dead Rising 4 and State of Decay 2 which all are coming withing 1 year time. They showed us games the past 3 E3 shows GAME AFTER GAME AFTER GAME. Now they show hardware and everybody blames them?

Like last year they show games coming in the near future at E3 and games far off at Gamescom.

[DragonKnight]

@Tobsesan: That's because they showed those games in previous years. Are you saying it's ok to skip an E3 so that you don't have to show anything new at the next one?

[AngelicIceDiamond]

@Abash so I've been yelling new ip's for a while. At the moment MS has a decent slate of games all we need now are release dates/windows for them now. Next E3 MS will show new Ip's but for now I'm actually content they've done they're share of games showcases, for the time being anyway. Side note they're re-releasing Phantom Dust next year so I'll be busy with that personally.

There's always "criticisms" surrounding MS around here. No there's nothing wrong with what MS is doing ppl again and again complain because they don't like the company and the console that's it. I'm right and I know I'm right no amount of downvotes can't change that unless you can come up with a compelling argument or a high quality debate. None fans of said platform will always complain which is stupid because they never planning on buying the console.

God Of War look phenomenal, I don't think Days Gone WOW'ed ppl but it looked ok, Spiderman, yes and yes, Zelda look phenomenal also.

[UltimateMaster]

I do agree with that approach.

[TheCommentator]

Shin, tell us how you really feel. Sony shows games we won't see for years and they get wild applause. Last Guardian, Final Fantasy 7, Shenmue 3 (kickstarter??? WTF, can't take the risk and fund it like MS did with Tomb Raider and Dead Rising 4?), etc. And who's pretending? MS did only show games at this year's E3 that are coming out soon. If they wanted to, they could have shown any one of the more than dozen unannounced games currently in development.

[XanderZane]

Yeah, I'm getting all of those as well. I do wish they showed some new IP's, but that will probably happen at GamesCom. Didn't think their conference was the greatest, but Sony's conference wasn't a whole lot better either. They have a ton of games, but just didn't so many. Think both companies are spreading their games among 3-4 different shows.

[Bruh]

@Shin
LOL oh man fanboys gone into rage mode. " They've been showing the same game for the past 3 years"

Last I checked E3 2014 didn't have Sea of Thieves, DR4, FH3, Gears 4 and so on. Yes a lot of the games were from last year's announcements however cut the exaggeration as you just look like a tool. They aren't trying to spin anything, they're attempting to show games that'll come out in the near future, mostly because they've had a dry season for the year thus far and E3 is the prime time to highlight games on their system coming soon. Not to mention Xbox had WAY more game floor demos than Nintendo and Sony.

[zeuanimals]

Sorry, I don't know about you guys, but I watch E3, not to know when things that are releasing this year are releasing, but to get hyped about things in the future with spectacle and bombs being dropped so my jaw can also drop.

We're all on N4G for crying out loud, do we really need the biggest gaming conference devoted to telling us about this stuff when we routinely get release date announcements through other means? Or am I wrong and this isn't a gaming news site where all of that stuff is posted almost daily?

[showtimefolks]

christocolus

do you also believe in fairies? because that's the only way all those games will come out q1 2017. ms like to push their games to holiday window in hopes of dominating the busiest time of the year

come on ms stop this nonsense. buy soon just like how you showed QB for 3 e3's or crackdown 3 and scalebound? please stop it. only in minds of xbox fanboys ms only showed games that are coming soon just like scorpio is coming soon

both ms and sony show games which are sometimes years away and sometimes they do show games which will be out in 12-18 month window

crackdown 3
scalebound
halo wars 2
horizon
spiderman
detroit become human

these are the exclusives we can expect to come out before fall 2017

how about ms learns to release games all year instead of focusing on last 3-4 months which they end up losing anyway to ps4

[christocolus]

@Showtime

Lol... Pls keep your BS on your side of the fence. Why should I or any Xbox owner take anything you say seriously? One look at your history shows all sorts of bias against MS. What's it to you if these games get delayed or not? You don't own the console and you are clearly biased. For now all those games are slated to release first quarter next year (with the exception of crackdown3) and I'm sticking with to that.

Deal with it bro.

[sammarshall102]

Yes. This is the best lineup of the big 3 this year

We also know when most of these games will release or at least know a time frame

[iDadio]

The best lineup haha, I hope you are not being serious. This year I have moved to PC mainly but as an avid gamer I always watch E3 and the MS show games wise was poor.
We already know about Gears
Forza has become a yearly milk factory
Dead Rising 4 is meh, may pick it up on PC

Out of all of them, Sea of Thieves peaked the most interest for me in what was a dire showing, what's coming out beyond the next 12 months to get excited about?

[TwoForce]

I don't know about that.

[donthate]

I agree.

Ironically, Sony showed Last Guardian, wowed everyone, and then completely silence. That was in 2009. Now we finally get it, the game skipped a generation, which by the way was the longest console generation ever, and finally release in 2016, almost a decade after.

No release window?

Yeah, that game can release in 3-years or it can release in 10-years. Sony even showed the Kojima project already, and although I'm excited, we know we are going to get a clip for the next four E3's before it is released, maybe even five!

I prefer the new format, and the shorter the amount of time the better. I loved it when Bethesda announced FO4, and released like 4-5 months later. Loved it! That is how it should be!!!

Don't string me along, don't BS me.

[P_Bomb]

@donthate
Yeah they do that on PlayStation too. LBP3 and GT6 did that at E3 the other year, releasing a few months later. GT Sport did earlier this year, followed by the VR Batman and RE7 reveals at E3.

But no by all means jump on The Last Guardian bandwagon. Unlike FO4 and the other sequelitis sallys that companies pump out like clockwork, I prefer pulling for the new IP.

[Cohagen420]

Yup, they have the GOTY in their lineup, oh wait..

[wolokowoh]

This holiday season. Not this year. Not for next year. They about even for big exclusives this year. I'm not going to count indie exclusives or JRPGs (except first party like GR2) or remasters here. Quite frankly this would give Sony the obvious advantage because of exclusive JRPGs alone. Also, the Witness, enough said.

Sony had more exclusives in the first half of the year. In the first half, Microsoft had Quantum Break which was great and that's it. Sony had Uncharted 4 which is at least equivalent what Gears 4 will be. U4: better story, great multiplayer, shooting mechanics not as good as Gears. What we expect of Gears 4: the shooting mechanics to be great, the story will be eeh as always, multiplayer will hopefully be great. Street Fighter V was exclusive and its great despite the obvious flaws. Ratchet and Clank was another amazing entry in the series. So in the first half Sony had three notable games all great to Microsoft one great game.

However looking at the whole year they have six a piece. Go into the holiday Sony has another three: Gr2, GT:Sport, and The Last Guardian. All are Japanese first party. All of these are safe bets to be good to great games. For the rest of the year Microsoft has five Halo Wars 2, Sea of Thieves, Forza Horizon, ReCore and Gears 4 . Forza trumps this years GT easily. I don't dispute this. Like said earlier, Gears 4 would Microsoft's best answer to U4. It'll be tough to make the equivalency argument because they are different but I'll go off quality. Ratchet and Quantum Break would be around the same quality for me. Both were great but not the next level up. Sea of Thieves, and this assuming its good, would be a great multiplayer game with friends. I'd say that is what SFV was so I'd say that makes in the same ballpark. The problem with is the rest of these. Halo Wars 2 will be great so will Gravity Rush. You can't really compare those even in quality because of subjectivity involving the genre interest person to person and we only have one previous entry on both of those. They're not proven franchises yet but I expect both to be great but not next level.

Now we're down to The Last Guardian and ReCore. My reason for comparing these two: Both involves puzzles and are Japanese. From what we've seen I'd go The Last Guardian but there is reason to doubt both. The Last Guardian was in development hell and Inafune just released Might No. 9 which was well..not great. However, there is so many things we don't know with ReCore. How involved is Inafune? Is it better or worse for having him not as involved? One of the studios working on ReCore is different than that working on the aforementioned MM No. 9. How does that affect its quality for better or worse? The only games Team Ico have made have been great so even with the development hell, I still believe TLG will be great.

So Forza trumps GT:Sport and TLG most likely trumps ReCore. The rest is personal preference. However look at next year. Sony already has the first half won because Horizon: Zero Dawn. Microsoft has nothing big announced. All of their first party games were released in this year or last. Halo is fall 2018. Forza 7 is guaranteed fall 2017. They will have to rely on Scorpio third party stuff, at most 1 or 2 unannounced non-Forza games, indie games, and bought temporary third party exclusives like Tomb Raider and Dead Rising. Sony already announced has a few big 2017 games and a few big 2018 games.Also Death Stranding for 2019.

[ChiefofLoliPolice]

Only games on that list that even remotely interest me is Horizon 3 and Gears. I'll wait till Dead Rising 4 come out on PS4.

[MatrixxGT]

Well greatness awaits..

[supraking951]

MS has sadly burned Halo, Gears and Forza lol Too many releases on 360 amd now on X1. Forza never charts on NPD Top 10 and Gears will suffer like Halo 5...buy day one and be done with it entirely before the weekend lmao

[Rimeskeem]

All of which will be available on PC :)

[XanderZane]

Not on PS4, PS4 Neo, Wii U or NX. Everything played on PC will use Microsoft's O/S and be paid for through their Win 10 store. More money for Microsoft. Gamers get to play the games on XB1 and PC. Don't see the problem. I'll be playing most of them on XB1 in co-op and multiplayer with friends.

[Saranya]

What? you had a lot of down vote from Sony fans for sure.

[iTechHeads]

The line-up is fine, the competition is just better.

[sammarshall102]

There's nothing bigger than Gears 4 and FH3 on the PS4 in the near future 2016/2017

[DragonDDark]

Lol @sam
Don't make your opinion fact buddy.

[trooper_]

Games that we knew about already....

Congratulations.

Microsoft still hasn't given me a reason why I should buy an XB1.

[-Foxtrot]

They are kidding right?

Crackdown 3 at last years E3...it's a no show

Halo 5 was at the Xbox One reveal....didn't come out until 2 and a half years later

Gears of War 4 shown off last year....not out until the end of this year

Sea of Thieves shown off last year....not out until next year

Recore was shown off last year....not out until September, a year a bit away

Cupheads was again shown off last year....no release date yet a year later

Fable Legends was shown off last year....CANCELLED

Stop bullshiting Microsoft. Most of them were coming out soon anyway since you showed them off last year.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Agreed.

[Chevalier]

Also we knew about Gears years ago. Right when the studio was still called Black Tusk studio before being renamed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...

It was back in 2014 that MS announced they bought Gears, but, we already knew Gears was in development before that.

[IamTylerDurden1]

Sony can show games with no release date at e3 bc they've already shown (or ppl already know about) No Man's Sky, Horizon, Gravity Rush 2, Persona 5, GT Sport, Nioh, Dreams, Last Guardian, Nier, Hellblade, Ni No Kuni 2, Wild, The Forest, Matterfall, Tomorrow Children, Abzu, One Piece BB, Boundless, DQ Builders, Let it Die, Mother Russia Bleeds, Hob, Edith Finch, U4 sp dlc ect coming out in the next yr.

If Sony didn't have all the exclusives/console exclusives coming in the next yr or so, i'd be worried...but they do.

[Errorist76]

I'll love to play all those games on my PC!

[Z501]

We could've went to Gamestop for release dates. I've NEVER watched an E3 for release dates or to see games that are releasing 'soon'. Core gamers usually know what coming soon anyway.

Thanks. I guess.

[ApocalypseShadow]

We all know it's goal post moving. Doesn't change the fact the games being shown were shown last year and the year before that. Don't let them spin it though. Goal post moving....

It's about sales every NPD. It's not about sales every NPD.

It's about metacritic. It's not about metacritic.

It's about this party games. it's not about third party games.

Its about exclusives,it's not about exclusives.

it's not about power, it's about power.

It's not about Indies, it's about Indies.

It's not about VR. It's about VR (that someone else made)

E3 has always been about showing games and being surprised by new announcements. Not about what's coming Christmas time as if 3 months mattered over all year long releasing games.

Sony has squashed so many points Microsoft had and Aaron Greenberg tooting his horn. Sony was called arrogant but Microsoft was arrogant all last gen. Including Dan greenwalt and his arrogant behavior against GT.

Now it's so much fun pointing at all the mouths that have been shut up just from Sony releasing PS4 at the same time which was another thing PlayStation fans said "if both released at the same time, Microsoft would get dominated."

And here we are today. With games and sales. But that comes from preparing beforehand like Sony building studios last gen and letting third parties go multiplatform and not relying on money hatting.

[King_Lothric]

Bulls eye!!!

This is what I have been saying too. The double standards and goal post moving as you said. They change their standards every moment just to fit their justifications.

One day VR is garbage and AR the future, then MS announce VR plans and the next day they say "I love VR and Oculus now".

[AngelicIceDiamond]

"Doesn't change the fact the games being shown were shown last year and the year before that. Don't let them spin it though. Goal post moving...."

So and whats the grand prize? Whats the reward? Xbox fans get to play games soon and you and your fanboy friends sit around and bitch complain and get upvotes? That's the new goal for fanboys have fun with that sounds like a blast. But I'm so wrong.

You realize once MS games release they'll re-new more games next E3 for 2018 and beyond right I mean that's how it goes and that's how it should be. I guess I'm wrong again.

"E3 has always been about showing games and being surprised by new announcements. Not about what's coming Christmas time as if 3 months mattered over all year long releasing games."

E3 is about both games down the line or games coming in either the holiday or the following year it all depends on the publishers, It isn't just about years down the road its up and coming or in the future depending on who you look at. There isn't just one definition. But I'm so wrong though I guess. Once again I'm wrong.

"And here we are today. With games and sales. But that comes from preparing beforehand like Sony building studios last gen and letting third parties go multiplatform and not relying on money hatting."

I guess we'll forget about last holiday where Sony money hatted DLC, COD, Battlefront, AC for third party, Destiny twice once in 2014 and the expansion in 2015, Street Fighter V, Watchdogs and COD again. If you mean overall no Sony has their slate of games and are money hatting less then previous years then I agree. Moral of the story, one company isn't a knight in shining armor both money hat and news flash both Sony and MS will always money hat weather we like it or not that's just the ugly side of buisness. Omg wrong, wrong, lol nope I'm right I'm right on everything I've said nobodies innocent in money hatting third party. But please prove me wrong though I seek the truth not popularity.

[leoms]

Spot on bud, spot on.

[Kiwi66]

Was Forza Horizon 3 shown 2 years ago , bugger must've missed it

[lastking95]

😑 if thats not the dumbest thing I've heard. He doesn't watch e3 for games that are coming soon 😑😑😑 so wtf do you watch it? Cause 75% of it is about upcoming games lol. You ppl need to give it a rest already simply enjoy what is shown rather it's exclusive, coming years away, a sequel, ect. You ppl flip flop and contradict your self so much it's unbelievable. Htf you gonna bash one because the majority they showed sequels then in the next sentence be hyped for zelda and GOW? Lol i could go on but it's not worth any more time. N4G is comical.

[Z501]

'so wtf do you watch it'

To see what developers are working on. What's so hard to understand?

Like i said. 'I'VE NEVER watched an E3 for release dates' Ever.

[leoms]

''Htf you gonna bash one because the majority they showed sequels then in the next sentence be hyped for zelda and GOW?'' Not sure you read his comment but just pretending to stealth damage control. Nowhere in his comment is he bashing ''one''. You seem very sensitive to the reason he is watching e3 though

[SonyAddict]

Says the growing man who puts emojees in his text lol..

[Deltaguy]

microsoft thinks we wanted to see games they announced last year? LOL

[_-EDMIX-_]

As if they have no event shows to do this.

Microsoft is saying this simply because they've actually do not have the same number of teams as Sony has for god sakes Sony has several developers still working in the dark on titles that have yet to be announced.

Get Microsoft spent an entire E3 talking about games we already knew about the years prior smh.

They can't spin their way out of this reality is they just do not have the same number of teams as sony that consistently put out strong releases were ms has a small core of teams that literally makes the same damn things every other year.

[Bruh]

Aside from the actual show, Microsoft had the best E3 by far. They had more than twice the number of floor demos and also had a lot more presence in outside events around Los Angeles. As a regular consumer you only see one side, but to those who watch the presentations and actually attend the show, the conference was great in providing steam to their remaining line-up of games for this year and getting people attending E3 to make the show floor much more crowded. You can jerk off to God of War's footage, but it had no demo, same with Horizon, TLG, Days Gone, Detroit and so on

[_-EDMIX-_]

Lol so aside from the actual show they had the best? So aside from the actual conference that people went there to see if they have the best? 😂😂😂
28514;😂😃㈳ 5;😃😃😃 Sure

Because Sony and Nintendo had no playable games? I never thought even slightly and you guys could read my damn comments before this E3 that Nintendo would have a slightly better showing than Microsoft 😂😂😂
28514;

[Deltaguy]

good point

[Chevalier]

@Angelic

" So and whats the grand prize? Whats the reward? Xbox fans get to play games soon and you and your fanboy friends sit around and bitch complain and get upvotes? That's the new goal for fanboys have fun with that sounds like a blast. But I'm so wrong. "

Wow talk about stupidity. How many exclusives has Xbone players had this year exactly? 1 total game that is NOT an indie game. Remember when people said not to count indies?! Indiestation comments?! Now there are so few games on Xbone indies DO matter so Inside, Cuphead and Ori are important though? Remember the knock on PS4 is 'greatness awaits'?! Well waiting aside here's 2016 so far.

2016 releases

PS4

January
Amplitude
The Witness

February
Earth Defense Force 4.1 The Shadow of New Despair
Gravity Rush
SF V

March
Day of the Tentacle
Samurai Warrior Empire 4 Empires
Salt and Sanctuary
Day of the Tentacle
MLB 16
Nights of Azure

April
Ratchet and Clank
Alienation

May
Uncharted 4
Valkyria Chronicles
Dungeons 2
Shadow of the Beast

June
Odin Sphere
Star Ocean 5
Paragon

In those six months Xbone has

Quantum Break
Superhot
Inside
Cobalt
Flame in the Flood

If you don't include any indie games:

Xbone = 1 exclusive game
PS4 = 13 exclusives

Weird seems to me 13 >>>>> 1

In the next 6 months there are something like 20 more games not including indies on PS4 and what 4 games on Xbone (Gears, Forza, Recore, DR4)?!

With such a landslide of games in comparison why would it matter if Sony shows games in advance?! Unless you somehow think something like 3 dozen exclusives vs. Xbone 5 is somehow impressive.

The amount of goalpost moving is hilarious.

[sammarshall102]

I'm glad Microsoft has a great lineup of games I will be playing this year or early next year

[TwoForce]

And it's somewhat questionable for AAA games. I don't know.

[sammarshall102]

How's that with Gears 4, Horizon 3, and Dead Rising 4

PS4 ain't competing with that for the rest of this year

[Rimeskeem]

Same, I'm also happy I can play them all on my PC.

[lastking95]

Look forward to playing you online. I'll prove pc users don't have an advantage lol Controller>Mouse (ya i said, come get some lol)

[zeuanimals]

@gapecanpie:

I think they'd prefer if people bought on Xbox consoles, though. They can charge you to play online and if you happened to buy a 3rd party game on it, MS stands to profit, and these two are the things that finally helped Xbox be profitable last gen. They can't do that on PC.

[jb227]

Well they ain't exactly alone there...main difference being PS4 has also had a great lineup of games during the first part of the year as well.

I mean it's kinda basic math now that Sony releases exclusives & console exclusives w/ more frequency than any other box on the market, and the huge handful of big announcements at E3 only cements the coming year and beyond, games like Detroit, GoW & Spider-Man will join the list w/ Dreams, Wild, Shenmue, etc....

I fully don't understand this criticism around showcasing games that aren't coming immediately. I mean its obviously hypocritical seeing how the only games that weren't already announced at MS' presser were DR4 & Forza....I mean where was the criticism for MS announcing games like Scalebound & Crackdown? Crackdown will have been announced for at least 3 years by the time it releases. Ain't exactly a fortnite last minute reveal to release there.

Sony are just better at showcasing games imo. They typically always reveal new games w/ full gameplay demos as opposed to the CG trailers that MS typically reveals with...they typically show off games fewer successive times, and they cater to their audience with their show, they don't just throw out a show then try to spin the narrative afterwards. The remarks from this MS exec are just petty.

[leoms]

Lol! No offense but you sound brainwashed.

[Sic_Parvis_Magna]

'We wanted to show games people can buy soon'

Most of which you showed last year

[DreadGara]

Sound like they had thousands hidden exclusive games they kept in the shadow, yeah right... whatever you say MS, I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN YOU.

Wait a sec, I do actually believe them, they have Halo 10, Gears 18, Forza 5000.....and Too Human 2 finally. Guess what, they all coming late 2017 / early 2018.

[spicelicka]

Which is exactly what Sony did this year. You realize you're going to see all the big Sony reveals again next year right? They will most likely be in the same position as MS is this year.

[jznrpg]

We will see them ,bit the difference is there will be new games announced as well, stuff we have no idea about. Sucker Punch and Naughty Dog at least

[P_Bomb]

Except the next Naughty Dog, Sucker Punch, From Software games are still unannounced. Probably something new from Sega, Vanillaware, Rockstar, Criterion brewing since they're all due follow ups. Insomniac will have another project due since they always have at least 2 going at once. Next year's conference is in no danger.

[jb227]

uhh...what about all of those reveals from last E3 that weren't present this year? The only 2 games they had shown the prior year were TLG, which got a brief trailer & release date this year and Horizon, which got another great on stage demo & its own release date.

If we are talking about actual trends & pure facts of history, Sony will most likely only show 1 or 2 of the newly revealed games at next E3, along w/ another big handful of huge new announcements. That's what history shows...It also says that Sony still has more new titles left to announce during PGW & PSX

[trooper_]

Uh...no they're not. There's still unannounced games we haven't heard of yet.

[RosweeSon]

Horizon will be out, Lego Star Wars is out, call of duty will be out, resident evil 7 will be out, even the last guardian will be out so how are Sony gonna be in the same position? The only games possibly getting shown again as they are still early in development is Days Gone, Hideo's game, maybe Detroit and Spider-Man maybe but the rest will be all out and they'll will have another batch cooking up. Microsoft just don't seem to be getting the games they did when 360 was out.

[trooper_]

Lol, Microsoft are a funny bunch.

[RosweeSon]

Meaning it's not looking fantastic for the following year without some major multiplatform games.

[moegooner88]

Comedy.

[Blastoise]

Just their way of spinning that they barely showed anything new.

Funny that they didn't care about showing games people can "buy soon" last year when they showed Sea of thieves, ReCore, Scalebound & Gears. None of which have released yet and all of which they showed again.

[AngelicIceDiamond]

They did smart one.

[jb227]

No doubt...and on top of that, the games that are actually right around the corner that people can play the soonest got totally shut out. Zero Inside gameplay, and a single short trailer for Recore. If proximity is what they base their presser off of, they absolutely missed the mark there. Then a game like We Happy Few will only be in early access this year so it's really untelling when that one actually releases. Sea of Thieves is another one that only has a nebulous window that could slip very easily...of course at that point the conversation will be over so MS can't be called out on being hypocrites w/ statements like those.

E3 has always been about the huge new game reveals, never about release dates. MS' E3 will be underwhelming from here on out if this is their mission statement moving forward. They will drop cg trailers w/ zero gameplay then drop betas & footage in the interim only to show off the same games we already know about. They need to go back to the drawing board on these ideas.

Sony is mainly showing off brand new games w/ full gameplay demos, then letting them lie until they release...all while bringing back others to give us more stuff before they release. Sony's upcoming slate is just gargantuan & 2016 is the year where these games start releasing like clockwork year round & literally never let up until after the generation ends.

[2cents]

A defence indeed, but a good one at that.
He does make a point.

[WelkinCole]

It makes no sense and is an insult.

Gears 4 was shown last years E3 and it didn't come out last year. Same with SOT and Recore.

MS think people are stupid.

[2cents]

insult?

C'mon, this is positively tame compared to some of the low blows that have been exchanged in the past by both Sony and Xbox.
I don't get why you have to be so offended. Am I not right in saying that PlayStation has the larger and more diverse game offering coming out of E3? What more do you want?

Of course they are going to try to do some damage control, this is the only angle they have right now.
People are stupid all on their own, don't need MS to point it out, its obvious.

[DLConspiracy]

#Ps4life

[JOHN_DOH]

Didn't Gears already have a public beta? At this point they just need to release the game, it's been seen enough

[leoms]

''MS think people are stupid.'' They actually take it for granted

[andrewsquall]

Like Gears of War 4, Sea of Thieves, Scale Bound and Recore that ALL debuted at E3 2015 with a end of 2016, TBA Springish 2017 and March 2017 release dates respectively (with Recore rumored to be delayed to December 2016). We Happy Few was at PAX Feb 2015. Inside AND Cuphead debuted at E3 2014. Below was shown at E3 2013.
There is nothing wrong with this of course. Announce your games whenever you want, just PLEASE stop trying to hammer in some bullshit urban legend that Xbox announces games and gets them out quickly. Every single one of those games I mentioned above, you have all known about for a long time.

The Forza games are the only games that ACTUALLY will be announced and then released 3 months later. Only thing is, here is the list ruined for the next 10 years in advance.
Forza 7 E3 2017
Forza Horizon 4 E3 2018
Forza 8 E3 2019
Forza Horizon 5 E3 2020
Forza 9 E3 2021
Forza Horizon 6 E3 2022
Forza 10 E3 2023
Forza Horizon 7 E3 2024
Forza 11 E3 2025
Forza Horizon 8 E3 2026
(But please act surprised when they are revealed anyway).

[Relientk77]

I can't believe they do Forza every year

[SpaceRanger]

Well when you think about it, there's not much else they can do. Then again, MS is the lowest on the totem pole when it comes to having the most and quality exclusives.

[PizzaSteve]

Sales have been dropping too. XB gamers getting tired of Forza yearly release.

[dilbig5]

There's only 2 or 3 years they havent released some kind of Halo game since 2005

[343_Guilty_Spark]

Forza and Forza Horizon are not the same.

[Goldby]

@Pizzasteve.

exactly, that is one nice feature about not getting a Gran Turismo or version of it every single year. it isnt beaten to death with a salami stick before thrown at the masses while shouting "NEW!"

[TheColbertinator]

Excited to play Forza 7. I'm hearing you can pilot helicopters in that one.

[Errorist76]

No you can't. But they transport you if you play coop.

[Relientk77]

Games you can buy soon on PC and Xbox

[ninsigma]

New games are what people watch e3 for not the same games we saw last year. Where's the future for xbox games?? Right now we don't know.

[jb227]

Exactly my sentiments. Shannon Loftis came out & said that MS currently has 15 games in development, as if that was some huge number to brag about, but it sound pretty underwhelming to me when you realize that number includes all of the announced stuff that just hasn't released yet, which makes up over half that list.

Seems obvious that MS isn't showing off new games at E3 out of some weird made up principle, MS isn't showing new games because they just don't have many in dev, and even fewer that are far enough along to be shown off. MS just doesn't have many first party studios, and third parties aren't as keen to jump in bed w/ MS as they were before the gen started & everyone thought they had it in the bag. Xbox is shooting for that multiplat machine status w/ the power & they seem to be putting all of their eggs in that basket for whatever reason. Sony got the same criticism at the beginning of the gen but that wasn't because they didn't have the exclusives, that was because most of their team had been developing for last gen late in the cycle & they needed time to catch up, which is what is happening now as we see new first party exclusives released & announced left and right.

[ninsigma]

Agreed. You can really see the difference now with Sony picking up steam on their big game releases. For me, there isn't anything beyond gears of war and recore that's very interesing for me. I thought the best game they showed at e3 was we happy few (looks really freakin good) but that's not coming from xbox (console or Windows exclusive). Sad thing is the next KI season dlc is probably included in that 15 games in dev.

Edit:
Also, there isn't really a problem with showing games that are coming soon but almost everything had already been shown to us before. To me, that suggests they have nothing to show.

[LoveSpuds]

Trouble is, 90 percent of what they showed this year was at last years E3. MicroSoft treat gamers like they are morons, do they really think anyone buys their bullshit PR? All it does is errode any goodwill Phil Spencer tries to earn.

[S2Killinit]

Tired of the MS spin.

[qwerty676]

lol these threads, just gotta shake your head, always the same tired rhetoric back and fourth.

In my opinion Microsoft had a solid line-up shown. And the fact that dates were attached to almost all of them, the latest being 2017. Hats off to them I guess, they had a good conference.

Still enjoyed Sony conference more, dont care that some of those games shown are probably 2018. I like to see new cool experiences and sonys conference showed that.

[Goldby]

Definitly had a strong line up, but MS and Sony's stances for E3 are like oil and water.

MS has for the last 3 years played catchup, and rarely does that work in someones favor. so with their E3 they are trying to attract new customers and what better way then showing off games that will be releasing within the next 6 months or so. the only downfall to that is that most people have already seen or knew about those games.

Sony on the other hand knows that Playstation Fans follow their incredible game releases. we all know at least 2 or 3 games that are being released within the next few months, and instead use E3 as christmas for PS fans, we know whats coming out soon, but what can we expect next year? the lineup sony brings is perfectly spread throughout the year that we are never itching for a 1st party game because we havent had one in x amount of months.

MS is selling reasons to buy an xbox. (thinking of the here and now)
Sony is selling reasons to stay with PS (Thinking of the future)

[lastking95]

So that's why they're releasing Neo lol it all makes sense now.

[iceman06]

To your last points, I fully agree. There's nothing inherently wrong with wither approach. So, for MS to spin it as an advantage, is a bit silly. Sure, you have games that are coming out soon. Guess what? We know! The media and devs have been keeping us updated. Thanks for the new look. Now, where's the stuff I haven't seen? Imo, I don't mind the updates and reminders, as long as there is something more to the conference than a holiday release review. The tried and true is the steady business (they serve the core), but the new IP, the revived IP, the unexpected IP is what gets the attention and drives the business forward and gets the masses to buy in and stay in.

[trooper_]

lastking, I'm not aware that Sony had a release date for Neo.

Care to point that out?

[Goldby]

No actually, thats why MS is announcing 15 months in andvance their next generation console and used terms like we listened to the gamers, this time we are doing it properly. The entire announcement was a half assed apology video saying they messed up, but these people are going to help us make it up to you.

It was directed more to the gamers who switched to pc or ps4 over the actual xbox players.

Thats why they are releasing Scorpio. Its all starting to make sense now.
Alot of gamers have been quite vocal about the resolution the think they were promised for every game. And MS is promising Native 4K on next generation. Unfortuntely for alot of gamers, they see that as 4K for all games which it will not be afterall, its all up the devs how they tell their story.

Sony is giving people who have a 4K tv and want 4K content. Thats the difference. The Neo is being released to follow the launch of 4K Vue.

[MrSec84]

The thing is you can both show release dates for up and coming games, along with bringing as many new things as you can fit into your allotted time.
If MS had actually used a password on their servers or just kept conference details off of a web connected computer then they would have had some surprises, but for some strange reason that didn't seem to occur to Microsoft.

killing all hype for a new model of XBox One releasing this year, by later revealing a way more capable model will be releasing in 18+ months didn't help either, along with basically making Scorpio pretty pointless or any Xbox console going forward by stating that every XBox One exclusive being available on Windows 10, basically negating the very reason for many original launch system owners buying the platform in the first place.

Yeah this conference is only really seen as a great one in the minds of Xbox One fans or maybe PC gamers that now don't have to buy a console to play the titles shown, people looking for fresh things that would interest them got no new IPs announced (since Sea of Thieves and ReCore had already been announced last year).
I've been waiting for MS to show me something interesting and this conference didn't really have anything for me.

[bleedsoe9mm]

i for one appreciate ms for only showing near term stuff , and not pie in the sky stuff that isn't even really a game at this point .

[Roronoa0411]

besides Death Stranding what did Sony show that isn't a game? I bet everything they showed will be released in 2017- early 2018

[Christopher]

Did you say the same thing last year when most of what they showed was there as well?

It's great you like that, but you can't ignore that there was nothing new or unexpected shown at the MS conference.

[bleedsoe9mm]

hell yes i did i very much like the way bethesda did the fallout announce , announce 6 months later release , i don't like getting my hope up for something that isn't even a thing .

@Roronoa0411 both companies have been guilty of it in the past , sony is still doing it and ms isn't . but they both did it with deep down and shangheist at the console reveals . hyping people for a game where the dev hasn't even choose an engine is over hyping pr garbage .

[jb227]

Uh really? Like Roro pointed out the only game that Sony showed off that was far out was Death Stranding.

The thing is, none of their reveals are ever really 'pie in the sky' stuff....Sony has been far & away the best at revealing games w/ proper meaty gameplay demos as opposed to the CG trailer method that MS has ran w/ this gen.

If we are talking about showing off 'pie in the sky stuff that isn't even really a game at this point' wouldn't MS be the sole offenders of this considering they showed off Phantom Dust when it literally wasn't a game & tried to confuse people by not coming out and saying as much, going against the actual devs themselves? That game went on to be canceled entirely. Then you've got Fable Legends, another game that will never materialize.

I think I'd rather been shown a game too early & have a long wait than to be shown games that will literally never exist.

[Hedstrom]

If that was the id'e they could have done themself a favour and say it at E3. Not after.

I think they held back on this years E3 in favour of next year. They want to show Scorpio and som new exciting games, no reason to show a new console with no new games for it.

[Aenea]

This actually makes sense...

[King_Lothric]

"Xbox defends E3 line-up: 'We wanted to show games people can buy soon"

Of course, because it had been a very dry year for xbox and the few exclusives that has arrived are not commercial hits.

Meanwhile, PlayStation has been delivering a lot of exclusives throughout all the year with many commercial hits and there are a lot of other exclusives coming for this year too so, having the agenda full of exclusives coming, Sony was able to present what games are coming in the future while Microsoft is still struggling to deliver games on the present.

[Rude-ro]

No, you needed a slogan to sell what you have.
It's been 7 years... Their PR spins only give Xbox shills a war cry.

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

What about the old duck on titanic... in the future itll be something of a slogan... "its been 84 years since i had a decent Xbox game"
https://encrypted-tbn0.gsta...

[corroios]

PR stuff again. Spinning aroud stuff. A very weak E3 in term of games. E3 is where we see whats coming. Everybody awaits for big surprises. There were zero and some of the trailer, that werent CGI this time, were just average.

[dilbig5]

All those games people already knew were coming out soon except for maybe We Happy Few even if it was revealed a month or 2 before. Horrible plans for future games. Why show Scalebound, Gears 4, and Recore last year then? Sony at least showed 2 near releases, one of which was in development hell. Nintendo showed some close by titles but more importantly, it showed Legend of Zelda, almost more important than any title Microsoft showed.

[Christopher]

We had We Happy Few on last year's Indie Month here on N4G. It's been known for a while now.

http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...
http://n4g.com/user/blogpos...

[dilbig5]

Oooo lol. Never noticed

[PizzaSteve]

MS always coming up with some excuse. Keep talking cause PS4 is still whopping the butt. Exclusives that were on XB1 is now on PC because they been flopping in sales on XB1. Plus Crackdown and Scalebound got delayed so no not all your games come out sooner and yet again you paying for another time exclusive Dead Rising 4. So what if all the PS4 games don't have release dates. We know they are true exclusives and they coming.

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

Cant wait for them to start doing the whole we sold 5mil across our platforms counting 1 game bought via the store as 2 because of crossbuy to make them look good in the sales compared to sony and nintendo... we know how much MS love to lie about all this stuff... people will dissagree but we know MS will do it.

[Goldby]

Soeaking of dead rising. And timed exclusives, didnt phil spencer himself say he was against timed exclusives on consoles?

[PizzaSteve]

Yep sure did. That 180 turn lol.

[yeahright2]

I think he also said something about not being interested in an Xbox 1.5. That's all fine though. Markets change, I won't fault him for that.

[ScorpiusX]

Am okay with this concept of showing me games I can buy soon .

[TwoForce]

Then you have no patience. Don't start with your dumb argument : " oh, sony will never give us a release date because they are afraid their game will be suck ". It's like you being switched by many different things. I'm still have my own word.

[ScorpiusX]

I have very little patience and like knowing when I can buy a game instead of dealing with developer hell of waiting , second I have never given 2 shits about sony never will .

[Christopher]

What was their answer last year when they showed mostly the same games? Or the year before when a good number of them were there as well?

Easy to say this now if you ignore the last 2 E3s.

[cfc83]

Me - Where can i buy exclusive games for the 2nd half of 2016 ?

Cortana - taking you to xbox store

[343_Guilty_Spark]

At least Microsoft is a little more realistic with their titles than Sony. I mean Ff7, Shenmue, God of War etc...doubt we see those until late 2017 to early 2018.

[HAHAHAHAHAHAHA]

Achievement unlocked
"Goal post moved successful"
;) dont spin what e3 is actually about

[jb227]

How is Phantom Dust & Fable Legends playing for you? I mean I'd rather see a game early than see a game early only for it to be canceled entirely.

Beyond that, Crackdown was shown 2 years ago & still has no release date other than 2017, which indicates there may be issues that may take quite a while to fix...don't see that game launching until late 2017. Then you've got Scalebound, a game revealed a long time ago itself....I mean how is MS a little more realistic? The only games they announced this year w/ a short reveal to release window were Forza, an annualized title that neccessitates a short cycle, and DR4, a third party title that is timed exclusive anyway...

[iceman06]

Providing no release date is about as "realistic" as you can get. In the end, it really doesn't matter because the games are now a known commodity for the PS ecosystem. Just as the games coming out "soon" for MS are. Sony sells the future using games that are in development or just announced. MS, sells the here and now and focuses on games that they hope are within a window of a year or two. Different strokes to the same end...get people to buy in.

[trooper_]

Again, what's this nonsense about release dates?

Are you guys running out of goal posts to move or something?

[merciless]

To me XBOX Press conference was basically this

"This year we've got more Gears, Halo, and Forza. Oh and next year you can play Gears, Forza, and Halo in 4k on Scorpio. Thank you very much, goodnight."

Zero innovation which is why the XB S is being cremated on amazon chart while the PS4 is still selling at the same rate it was before.

[Kemo_Spear]

Minecraft.
You forgot Minecraft lol

[ILostMyMind]

And shows nothing.

[migh_and_highty]

Yeah and most of those you showed last year. A bit of look into the future is not a bad thing MS

[StarElite]

If this is the case then Gamescom2016 better be great (it most likley won't be).

[Silly gameAr]

MS are starting to sound like their fanboys.

[Destiny1080]

but all them games where at last years e3

LMAO

[Petebloodyonion]

MS has a track record of showing game that will be playable in a year cycle.
If you look at past E3 you will see this tendency.

It's just a contrast to Sony who love to announce upcoming project 2 to 5 years in advance

[TwoForce]

Well, at least Sony is not predictable like MS.

[Petebloodyonion]

On that I agree!

[Liqu1d]

Stop lying. Scalebound was revealed in 2014 and Crackdown 3 was revealed in 2015.

[Petebloodyonion]

WOW because 20% to 30% of announced game are not playable in a 2 year term suddenly make's me I'm a liar.

Sorry but there's a huge contrast on how Sony operate their E3 presentation vs MS.
if you loo look at all the game most of them won't be playable till 2107 and beyond.
Not saying it's bad just saying its different.

[GTgamer]

Lmfaoooooo they funny as hell they showed games announced 2 years back ya don't say they coming soon -_- and for the record I don't count forza because theirs one every year now.

[ZwVw]

Then you shouldn't have had your execs lie that you were going to be announcing a boatload of new IPs and XB1 exclusives for the event, only to showcase gameplay footage from games announced two years ago, along with those games coming to Windows 10.
Even the Phantom Dust Remaster announcement seemed random and last minute damage control in response to Sony's overwhelming positive reaction to their E3 conference.

[Lynx0207]

"We wanted to show games people can buy soon" - "So we showed nothing interesting".
I'm not sure if that is the best strategy for them now.

[i3eyond the Circle]

PlayStation fanboys are mad. Using Mircrosoft articles to plant the seeds to their weak ass argument that the barren wasteland of PlayStation exclusives with the occasional oasis is what makes PlayStation great lol. Good job on the Scorpio preparation.

Ratchet and Uncharted. Congrats on two games outside of the Holiday season where you had next to nothing in comparison to the hours put into the Xbox One not even half a year earlier.

Halo 5, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Gears Ultimate made hundreds of hours of fun riding out of 2015. So far on PlayStation combining all of its exclusives since launch....maybe 80? Lol

So continue on with your meta critic buffoonery.. Us folks on Xbox will be playing games.

[GrubsterBeater]

I don't even know what to say to this...

You are so far gone that it's not worth even arguing with you..

[yeahright2]

Pretty sure that was sarcasm. If not, Xenu help us all.

[Monkeycan8]

No Fanboy here but you do know PS4 has way more exclusives than XB1 right?

[Haru]

xbox has 0 exclusives - fact

[CernaML]

Were tears running down your face while typing out that wall of delusion?

[gamerswin24]

No you wanted to fluff your presentation and regurgitate games you showed last year. I dont know where ppl get this notion from but E3 is a place where you show future games and drop mega bombs that will come out eventually, rarely is it to show games in the the coming year because that would have been shown the previous year at E3. Im tired of fanboys moving goalposts and changing the definition of things to suit their agendas. So regurgitated E3 info you shared last year is cool because now it has a release date? gtfo. Oh let me guess but its ok to mention (not even show ) a system that is like 2 years away, not created, nothing tangible lol but in that circumstance its ok? How ironic, Hypocrites for real.

Sony killed it because they gave gamers what they wanted. They showed new games that gamers had no information on and dropped secrets which is what E3 has always been about. and Sony also showed tons of games some coming out within a year like Gravity Rush 2, Gt Sport, TLG, Vr games and more but they kept most of those on the show floor because they had already spoken abou that last year and showed things off.

Dont get me wrong, wharetever Microsft chose to show its ok but please lets not pretend like they showed new games we havent seen before with fast release dates lol or that they did better than others because their games had release dates when all they did was recycle games from years past that they already showed info for.

This discussion has nothing to do with the quality of games but the constant moving of goal posts and trying to glorify a move that a real gamer could see was desperation and done because there just wasn't anything else to show.

[Sevir]

They honestly had a solid showing, even if it were games from 2 years ago.

It just didn't wow because they were very much old games and EVERY announcement leaked.

If these games weren't being shoe horned to Windows 10 they could claim best line up in xbo history, but the truth is Everything shown is coming to PC.

[Monkeycan8]

Solid showing of games we already knew about. Aside from a small select few. But I really want to know how the Xbox Fanboys feel about MS up and jumping ship to PC. What's the point of owning a XB1 if I have a good PC?

[Mkai28]

Well if they "jumped ship" to PC, there would be no more Xbox support.. There are still some ppl that want Xbox, for instance the Xbox one s seems to be doing pretty good on Amazon. It's a top of the line 4K HDR, bluray player, and streaming device for $299 where others cost $1000.(Lots of ppl last gen got a PS3 just for bluray, mostly non gamers)

That is the thing isn't it, having a good PC.. Lots of ppl say," another reason not to get an Xbox. I'll just play it on my PC, lol.." But don't actually have a proper gaming rig. More then half the PC gamers don't even play games in 1080p, and the requirements specs for these windows 10 games are pretty high..

The reason for Scorpio is to keep Xbox relavent, you just have ppl that don't want to game on PC.. People want 4K on a console and that's fine.. Some people don't want to deal with driver updates, mouse keyboard, installing controllers, 1ms/2ms monitors, buying and installing all the hardware.If you're putting all those games on high end Windows PCs then you better have little to no difference in graphics and performance.( between Scorpio and PC ) Can a lot of gamers say they will play @4K on their PCs by 2017? Nvidia's 1080 will be $700, so the option with most will be 2 AMD r480s.. $299 for both.

If you have a good gaming PC you wouldn't even consider having an Xbox to begin with. No need in having Xbox if you already have an established Gaming rig. Ps: not accusing you of not having a proper PC.:)

[JOHN_DOH]

" More then half the PC gamers don't even play games in 1080p, and the requirements specs for these windows 10 games are pretty high.. "

I keep seeing this said by people on here. Where are you getting this info? Yes, more than half PC gamers do not play at 1080p according to the steam survey. That's because they are using higher than 1080p (multi monitor) You cant even buy low res monitors anymore.

1920x1080 - 36%
3840x1080 - 30%
1366x768 - 25% (laptops or tablets)

The R480 will be $199-$250 and will probably be similar to what is in the xbox scorpio. By the time scorpio is out AMD will already have the R580 or whatever.

[DualWielding]

problem is being able to play the games soon means nothing if I don't care about the games, only ones I care are Cuphead and inside and fortunately those can be played in my oldish pc

[OC_MurphysLaw]

I never felt they needed to defend what they showed off at E3, I like seeing the games I will be playing 6-9 months out. I will say this though, I think MS does need to add one more dedicated event/show case to their calendar. It should take place sometime around Dec/Jan. The event should be like the PS Experience show and help keep momentum and excitement for games coming up in the early part of the year.

[iceman06]

You kinda nailed it. While MS does a good job of generating momentum with it's showing of titles to release soon, the momentum isn't sustained by many surprises. IMO, you gotta throw a bone to the core fans (who follow you and already know your release schedule) by giving something completely new. Not just a new look at last year's reveal. But an all new IP.

[TheColbertinator]

Even if there is no longer an exclusive line up at least we can watch 4K Blu-Ray movies on the Slims.

Movies & TV > Games

[GoldenArcanine]

It was a disastrous E3 for Microsoft, that's for sure. Absolutely nothing worthwhile on the games front except the same worn - out franchises they've been milking for the past 12 years like Halo, Gears and Forza.

With such a weak, embarrassing lineup of games and absolutely nothing quality - wise it's not hard to see why the Xbox ONE is having such a hard time down at the bottom of the sales charts.

[MrBeatdown]

I only want my consoles announced too early.

I really want to know about 6 teraflops in the upcoming nameless mystery box, but don't want to hear a damn thing about the games that will launch along side it.

Good job, Microsoft!

[JokerDem]

MS when are you going to understand that no matter what you do people will hate on you.

Just Focus on the games and ignore the ridiculous cult following that is the internet trolls bashing you. Apple did it and look at them now they are the most valuable company in the world.

[Deltaguy]

only impressive game they shown was horizon 3..all the rest was lackluster or will be better on PC....

[iTechHeads]

Yeah, that's why they announced the Scorpio.

[S2Killinit]

I would have taken Days Gone over all the games in MS's conference.

[jairusmonillas]

Only few people want to play Xbox exclusives. That's why they are way behind PS4. They are mostly overhyped mediocre like what happened with Quantum Break.

[3-4-5]

* I'm not impressed with the XB1 lineup compared to the OG xbox & 360.....there have been some good games here and there but I think the 2nd half of the XB1's life cycle will be better than the first.

[SynestheticRoar]

Those were the games from last year E3. That excuse is overuse of late. Fanboys use this line, like a ID card.

[PistolsAtDawn]

Defend what? It was a GREAT lineup of games, and they are all coming soon. (It may mean nothing, but I did get an email from Amazon yesterday that said my pre-order for Scalebound was updated from May 1st to April 28th). Not only was it the best list of games from any console (as in the most games I wanted to play), but they are all around a year or less away. They said they were going to talk about Crackdown 3 at Gamescon too.

Only on sites like this does MS have to "defend" a great list of games. Of all the companies, MS has the LEAST to defend. I'm more concerned while Nintendo only talked about one game (although an amazing game), and Sony talked about most stuff that is YEARS AND YEARS away....then multiplats and non exclusives VR games.

[Sy_Wolf]

While I agree it's great to show games that people can buy soon I prefer Sony's approach to show me why I want to keep my PS4. I'm feeling like selling my Xbox and buying a gaming PC because Microsoft want to unify their gaming platforms. It makes sense from a business standpoint, but it also makes me not want a console from Microsoft's camp. Doesn't affect them either way, since I will still be supporting them as a whole. I'd do the same thing of Sony suddenly launched a platform on PC and released all their big games there alongside the PS4.

[Tedakin]

That's the thing. Sony shows tons of amazing games, but none are coming soon. Most of last year's E3 games still aren't out. Death Stranding won't be out for years, they haven't even gone into full production yet. MS could show games coming in 4 years if they wanted to.

[MagicBeanz]

Well that's one way to damage control it I guess.

[Hotabang]

tired of this salesman type statements >_<

[TheGreatObserver]

Justifying showing the same games over and over with words trying to make it seem like they have more

[IamTylerDurden1]

Microsoft just lies, spins, and moves goalposts better than anybody. Maybe they should take all that energy and put it into 1st party studios and new games. Most of what they showed was shown at previous conferences.

Anyone who criticises Sony's e3 for showing in development games is either uninformed or just a sheep. Does showing GoW, Days Gone, Spider-man ect mean that these games AREN'T still coming in 2016/17? (see below)

Gravity Rush 2
No Man's Sky
GT Sport
Horizon Zero Dawn
Persona 5
The Last Guardian
Ni No Kuni 2
Wild
Nioh
Nier Automata
Edith Finch
Hellblade
Dreams
MLB The Show
The Forest
Matterfall
Abzu
Boundless
DQ Builders
Energy Hook
Mother Russia Bleeds
The Tomorrow Children
Let it Die
Death's Gambit
HeadLander
Rainworld
Ray's the Dead
Detroit
Eitr
Hob

This was off the top of my head. PSVR and games like Rigs, VR Worlds, and Farpoint also releasing soon. This list enables Sony to show games without a release date at e3. The last thing microsoft should do is take shots at Sony's games lineup bc microsoft doesn't have anything close to what Sony does in the oven.

[microgenius]

Well, history talks for it self
Xbox=hype
Playstation=games