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If Digital Only Became Reality with Today's Prices, Would you Migrate to PC?

In this week’s podcast, in light of Industry analyst firm Superdata’s report on the digital games market for October, showing a 7% year-on-year increase to $5.5 billion in global spend, the Sparks discuss what life would be like if gamers had a digital only future imposed upon them with games costing more than they did in store and ask, would there be a mass migration to the PC and its more reasonably priced online services such as Steam, Origin and GOG? Would the sting of high cost digital games on console make the initial larger financial outlay for a gaming rig worth it?

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Fro_xoxo3073d ago (Edited 3073d ago )

probably not, id still stick to my consoles. It just means I'll buy less games, I already do that as not all are worth playing.

uptownsoul3073d ago (Edited 3073d ago )

I'd definitely move to PC...Unless prices on console significantly dropped

Get_A_Job_Foxtrot3073d ago

I'd go to pc. I hate pc gaming cuz I suck with the mouse, but i'll adapt and buy a controller. To hell with an all digital future.

bluebenjamin3073d ago

I migrated to PC and I'm yet to use mouse and keyboard, it's ps4 and 360 game pad for me

R6ex3073d ago

Already migrated to PC, but still gaming with controller 'coz I'm only into SP & not MP games. Best to lay back on the couch & enjoy the immersion of the big HDTV screen.

BrianOBlivion3072d ago

"To hell with an all digital future"
Damn straight.
If I'm FORCED into all digital gaming on the consoles, sure, I'll switch to primarily playing on my PC, because the convenience edge consoles have will be eliminated.
On PC there's better graphics, more options, I'll be able to BACK UP my content and as "R6ex" mentioned, I CAN still continue to do it "laying back on the couch & enjoying the immersion of the big HDTV screen".
Also, I have a HUGE game collection -all paid for, but if I am FORCED into an all digital future, you better believe I'm gonna pirate every goddamned one.

Insomnia_843073d ago

I would stop playing video games. Games on release for PC are always a broken mess and the whole PC gaming is to complicated with drivers and all that crap. I like the convenience of conaole gaming.

Sly-Lupin3072d ago

I can only assume you've never played a PC game before. PC gaming hasn't been a hassle since MS-DOS.

_-EDMIX-_3073d ago

I see many are not factoring that if digital was the only way, PC would also suffer.

Have many not factored that those CDKey sites are for PHYSICAL game codes? LMFAO!

If console went full digital, it would also mean the same with PC as that actually doesn't mean PC would some how be better off, it would actually hurt all gaming.

Consider PC only has those CDKey options because a damn physical option exist in the first place.

The assumption of um "if digital only became reality with todays prices, would you migrate to PC"...is basically making it sound as if the landscape of PC would remain unchanged if digital only would happen in gaming.

It would not. The cheapest game prices on the net for PC titles are due to the existence of physical versions as to why CDkeys are sold, also based on competing with those CDKey sites in the first place.

The second they stop making physical versions, no more CDKeys and hello 1 method and 1 price.

Scatpants3072d ago

Nobody buys physical games on PC anymore.

_-EDMIX-_3072d ago (Edited 3072d ago )

lolz...dat name doe!

But no, PC gamers indeed still buy physical PC games. One of my friends bought the new StarCraft expansion on disk.

http://www.amazon.com/Evolv...

http://www.amazon.com/Dying...

http://www.amazon.com/Middl...

http://www.amazon.com/The-E...

http://www.amazon.com/Titan...

http://www.amazon.com/Assas...

As to why you assumed um "nobody buys physical" on PC, is beyond me. Don't let Steam or GOG users fool you bud. As a person that owns a gaming PC, I can tell you that MOST of my library is actually physical.

Mind you, this is one of the reasons why most of my library is physical.

http://www.amazon.com/Mass-...

and on Steam.

http://store.steampowered.c...

Now...notice its cheaper then the physical...ON SALE! Thus...everyday the NORMAL PC physical price is actually near the sale price. Thus...I most times get the physical as I'm not waiting months to play a game I want to play due to waiting for a sale when I can get it near that any day of the year and own the physical disk.

Soooooooo $5 for a few days vs $6 any day of the year ...as normal price.

http://store.steampowered.c...

lolz, but stand back...that is a SALE TO THEM!

Yet....every day on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/of...

L....o.....L.

Mind you, if no one bought physical, it would not be offered, all major game releases have physical versions and only a small few skip them, most have physical versions. PC has just as much digital only titles now as console does. That is like saying no one buys physical on console because many smaller developers on PC AND console release digital only titles.

The reality is, major releases on PC still have physical versions. Supply exist because demand exist. I even got a physical version of BF3 and Skyrim when they released, same with Company Of Heros and many more.

DarkHeroZX3073d ago (Edited 3072d ago )

Honestly after the crap Disney pulled with my MvC2 and UMvC3 I'd just quit gaming. That or I'd pirate everything.

HumanatPlay3072d ago

Mac/PC are my everything and then some with my GPU making it possible to play 3rd party games at 4k/30fps, 1440p/60++fps, 1080p/overkill. In short, digital only isn't what it takes for one to move to PC, its the love for games and the ability to build a machine that allows you to get the best possible experience YOU want out of them.

Exclusives are the only reason I haven't stopped buying consoles, should the day come when Naughty Dog and other 1st party devs go multiplat, then I will kiss consoles goodbye. Though I don't see that happening anytime soon, so I still keep my PS4 close, but gone are the days of my blind love/passion for consoles.

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madmonkey013073d ago

the price between digital titles and retail, along with no resale value is the main stumbling block for me.

example, battlefront is £55 to download of £39 to buy the disc,

xPhearR3dx3073d ago

Except for on PC. I've never had to pay full retail price for a PC game at launch with a MSRP of $59.99 unless I buy a physical collectors edition. There's so many sites for PC gaming like; GreenManGaming, G2A, CDKeysDiscount, etc that paying full retail price for a PC digital title is almost non-existent.

Honestly, if consoles had digital pricing right like PC does, I'd probably buy most of my games digital. After I built a gaming PC a few years back, I stopped selling my games because I mostly bought digital and you never know when you're going to get that urge to play something. Even if it's for a day.

Sure, its not as cool to look at a list of digital titles compared to a shelf with lots of games, but technology is moving so fast that digital games will be the norm. It's already happened for the most part with movies and music, it's only inevitable that games are next. Although it doesn't surprise me physical game sales are still high. Gamers are more attached to physical content, but defiantly by the next console generation I don't see it being as popular, or possibly not even an option.

MCTJim3073d ago

My opinion is that digital sales should be 15-25% lower than retail on new games. I truly believe that the next iteration of consoles will not have optical drives and everything will be digital. There will be those who resist, but the market is leaning towards it more and more. I myself prefer digital, but there are those who will reject the idea and get out of console gaming...which would be ironic since Steam and Origin do so well. The main problem is always going to be storage. I see prices of external drives coming down rather quickly and maybe, just maybe instead of optical, we will have games on USB style cartridges like the 3dsxl..time will tell

ginsunuva3073d ago

It's like saying jacking up the price of alcohol or tobacco will stop addicts.

They'll get angry but still buy it.

WeaseL3073d ago (Edited 3073d ago )

If it was digital only, console game prices would plummet to compete with PC so No.

Digital prices on consoles are high to appease retail.

Get_A_Job_Foxtrot3073d ago

I want to see gamestop not carry games simply because the digital price is lower. Watch them go bankrupt (which gamestop probably isn't too far from being, if the emptiness of stores is any indication).

Spotie3073d ago

And why, exactly, would you want that? They are the single biggest retailer of games and consoles in the world, employing hundreds of thousands, and you want them gone?

I can see wanting SOME of their practices changed, but to want the whole company gone?

Scatpants3072d ago

Yeah, they're about to go the way of Blockbuster. They're already thinking of all kinds of changes for their business model like used cell phones and stores just for kid stuff. I feel it may take more than that to save them.

Ashlen3073d ago

The gaming companies don't want to go digital because it will give "you" a better price. As soon as it goes all digital and the companies no longer have to compete with resale they will have complete control of the price and it won't benefit you the consumer.

Vegamyster3073d ago

With a console its not a good idea since its a closed platform, PC doesnt have this issue, all these different distributors compete by lowering the price. Example being i payed $50 CAN for Fallout 4 on Cdkeys instead of $80 on Steam.

Peace_Love_and_FPS3073d ago (Edited 3073d ago )

WHERE?!
OT: go flames go

Vegamyster3072d ago

@Peace_Love_and_FPS

http://www.cdkeys.com/

It's $58 CAN now due to demand.

Heyxyz3073d ago

I know, I say this to everybody and they don't believe me. They think if everything goes all digital Sony and MS will drop their prices out of the kindness in their hearts.

JEECE3073d ago

No, they will drop prices to make money when people stop buying the game for full price.

Scatpants3072d ago

If 100% of their game sales are from digital sales they would most likely be forced to drop the price to continue driving sales. They would probably also have more frequent flash sales with more titles offered.

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PlayStation Doesn't Need a Dedicated PC Store Launcher

With all the PlayStation games that are now coming to PC, is it time for Sony to release a dedicated PC launcher?

thorstein5d ago

No, and they already solved any need with the overlay that's coming.

Vits5d ago

Unless they are trying to kill their recently created PC business, I would advise against opening a dedicated PC store. It's an extremely hard endeavor, and people, in general, are very comfortable with Steam. Even Epic, with their billions of dollars invested, is still struggling to find a foothold, and they have Fortnite.

just_looken3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Money is one thing security is another but again millions have 0 knowledge past 2020.

Epic store for years struggled with a shopping cart/account theft/credit card theft

Rockstar launcher/store to this day over 5 years later still has horrific user interface security flaws lost account's and stolen CC

Then you got that activision need phone number oh we lost it launcher

The crown jewel is the ea launcher/store ea app 3 yrs old still has hundreds of threads were people lost games/accounts/game access or just straight up crashes.

Edit" Oh ubi launcher were you buy a game that may or may not be there again or work and the launcher 5yrs old still has no 4K support if you launch it on a 4k screen there is a high chance it will just crash.

ocelot074d ago

Can tell who ever put this together is not all that clued up on pc gaming.

It's just a known fact. The PC gaming community prefer Steam and Steam alone. They don't like different launchers. I personally don't mind them. But majority just stick with steam. Hence why EA and Ubisoft went back to on releasing on steam and why Microsoft release games on steam as people hated buying from the windows store.

The only other launchers that I imagine are doing ok is GOG due to being drm free and epic games due to the free games every week. Sony shouldn't release any sort of pc launcher n

Nitrowolf24d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It literally says in the OP that PC gamers don't like multiple launchers lol. It even mentions Steam being the go to for gamers

Tacoboto4d ago

Title: "PlayStation Doesn't Need a Dedicated PC Store Launcher"

N4G: "Can tell who ever put this together is not all that clued up on pc gaming"

When you don't even read the headline...

ocelot074d ago

I read it and had a brain fart. As read the title then this "With all the PlayStation games that are now coming to PC, is it time for Sony to release a dedicated PC launcher?"

So I hold my hands up on that mistake. Rest of my comment still stands.

Giblet_Head3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Steam and GOG are highly preferred because of the rich feature set. Ubisoft, Rockstar, EA, Epic etc have all set a precedent over the years for customers to instinctively expect individual publisher launchers to be so extremely half-assed that the majority simply don't want to bother dealing with what is almost an inevitable disappointment by comparison to Steam or GOG. Those publishers and their inaction or general disinterest to improve have effectively ruined any future adoption to be taken seriously.

Einhander19724d ago (Edited 4d ago )

This is just another ridiculous double standard article.

It's like how Microsoft can spend 20 years of making nothing but gaas and live service style games to sell microtransactions, dlc and subscriptions and get praise for doing it, but if Sony wants to make a single game like that every website under the sun is writing articles saying how Sony is anti-consumer or whatever.

derek4d ago

Yep, huge double standard look at the tortured reaction to the ps5pro, websites hyperventilating like Sony is forcing people to buy it.

just_looken3d ago

Wait my xbox from 2004 has avengers gaas on it? wow your so smart

m$ Gaas started with the other companies like sony

Gamepass yes they are deep into that but its still a huge money saver sense you do not own your games then get a service like that.

Now there pc xbox launcher that is trash for years now

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Is Driver (PS1) Still Worth Playing in 2024?

"Driver was a technical achievement for PS1, a pioneer in cinematic gaming, and an often brutal challenge - TechStomper asks if its brand of 70s car chase antics still holds up."

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PrimeVinister12d ago

The driving holds up, most of everything else does not.

PrimeVinister12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

@Shane Kim

Well, I mean the driving physics hold up. The draw distance, police AI, visuals in general etc do not

Cacabunga12d ago

One of my all time favorites on PS1. I spent a summer vacation playing this was so good

isarai12d ago

Sadly youd be hard pressed to find any driving game with better physics these days. But the draw distance really kills it for me

PrimeVinister12d ago

The physics hold up ridiculously well. And the draw distance is a real hurdle at first.

__y2jb12d ago (Edited 12d ago )

Nonsense. The physics in any modern game or any 360 game is light years beyond Driver.

Dandizzle12d ago

This game is hard, you will fail and quit

PrimeVinister12d ago

But you will get there eventually... maybe

MatrixxGT12d ago

All in the first two minutes.

jznrpg12d ago

Stop with is it worth it articles. If you want to play a game play the damn game!

anast12d ago

I loved this game awhile back.

Barlos11d ago

Yeah but is it worth reading pointless articles?

__y2jb12d ago

It wasn’t worth playing in the 90’s.

Espangerish12d ago

My thoughts exactly. I bought it at release for full price and got frustrated and bored with it very quickly.

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Is Gran Turismo (PS1) Still Worth Playing in 2024?

Gran Turismo for PlayStation launched a sub-genre and revolutionised console racing - TechStomper asks is it still worth playing in 2024.

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Terry_B14d ago

Well..you can play it completely offline at least ^^

PrimeVinister14d ago

Something we really miss, just turning on the console and having the game start without signing into stuff

Terry_B14d ago

Fully agreed. That and Splitscreen Modes for Racing games.

PrimeVinister14d ago

@Terry_B I miss having people to splitscreen with, but I can't blame anyone for that :-(

Cacabunga14d ago

Not too late.. we can still change that.

PrimeVinister14d ago

@Cacabunga I will let you in, see ya soon compadre :-P

MrBaskerville13d ago

@Terry_B
GT7 actually has 4 player splitscreen. Which is wild in this day and age.

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TiredGamer14d ago

Good news is that Sony released a final update to Gran Turismo Sport to allow it to function offline. Expecting the same for GT7 at some point in the future.

PrimeVinister14d ago

That is great news, I really liked Sport even if many others did not :-/

Chocoburger14d ago

I'm not big into sim racing, but I got sucked into the hype for this one from magazines back then. I just played arcade mode and that was enough for me to feel like I got my money's worth.

Yeah, it's definitely worth playing today. GT 2 has a few interesting fan made graphical mods when played on an emulator as well.

PrimeVinister14d ago

The arcade mode is underrated, it's a great alternative mode and you can even unlock GT HiFi with it.

Fonsecap14d ago

Cars back then had much more personality then those we see today. Modern cars all about the led lights and the tablet size screens and they all seem alike, back then they could be simpler in design but had tons more personality.

PrimeVinister14d ago

That is something a few people have pointed out - that cars all look the same now. I have to agree that a lot of new vehicles lack personality.

fsfsxii14d ago

You guys are so anti-fun its depressing, like who tf cares about personality of objects like wtf? Just learn to enjoy stuff as is.

PrimeVinister14d ago

It's hardly anti-fun to remark that some objects look nicer than others.

And everyone has their favourite era of cars, I sincerely doubt many will pick the 2020s a few decades from now.

Fonsecap14d ago

Dude, like wft cares about personality of objects? What about art? Paintings are objects and they're considered good or bad if they show or lack personality so I ask, wtf are you talking about? Cars are also considered pieces of art, vintage cars, classic cars, classic bikes and so on. Artists are appreciated by the objects they craft, blacksmiths, painters, engineers, designers, so wtf cares about personality of objects indeed... ( Sorry for my English, it's not my native language)

MrBaskerville13d ago

Talking about cars is fun if you are a car enthusiast. Just saying.

ApocalypseShadow14d ago (Edited 14d ago )

That Corvette Stingray to this day is one of the most ferocious whips ever driven. Overpowered against other cars yes. But to drive it and be that close to losing control, but being in command around those curves, just can't be duplicated.

HiFi mode is also something I miss. There should be a mode in today's GT where it's Mano o Mano and the detail and resolution jump full throttle. In today's games, Max Ray Tracing and lighting and textures to make it look even more real..

PrimeVinister14d ago

A modern HiFi mode would be really cool! It would be really interesting to see how real they could go by stripping it all way back.

And Stingray is a solid choice 👌

TiredGamer14d ago

HiFi mode in GT1 was only a stripped down 60 fps mode for one track. Should have been called "Performance Mode" or "High Frame Rate" mode.

PrimeVinister14d ago

@TiredGamer it was only three tracks, but it was still cool

Petebloodyonion14d ago

Not according to Former Playstation president Jim Ryan for he told Time that he doesn't see why anyone would play old games given the advancements in fidelity achieved today.

https://time.com/4804768/pl...

PrimeVinister14d ago

I don't agree with him, but he had a few good points.

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