Metal Gear V Proves Looks Aren’t Everything

Can you really see the difference between 900p and 1080p?

[Sonyslave3]

This ain't going to go well lol

[XBLSkull]

Actual 900p? Yes, provided you are on a 1080p display you would notice the black bars that go unfilled (aka The Order). 900p upscaled to 1080p... it's barely noticeable, if at all. The 1080p image will look barely sharper, and unnoticeable when a game is in motion and you aren't looking at a screenshot.

[sactownlawyer916]

Nice spin. I wonder if ps4 was 900p and upscaled if you would say the same thing. I sincerely doubt it.

[SCW1982]

Good to see your back spreading your bull Skull, after the metal gear 1080p on Xbox article being proved false you went dark for a bit. Always get a laugh out of your 12 year old antics. Keep em coming.

[brish]

This site has games running at 720p, 900p, and 1080p scaled to 1080p

http://www.dualshockers.com...

See if you can spot the difference!

[TFJWM]

I know I can see the difference...How I know is when AC4 was released on PS4 I was like this is blurry for a 1080p game, looked it up and it was 900p upscaled. Once the patch came out it was alot clearer...

[TFJWM]

Also the order ran at 1920x800, 900p is 1600x900 which with a reg HD 16:9 will fill it with no black bars..1080 is 1920x1080 which will also fill a 16:9 screen with just more pixels

[NinjaNick]

Sony trolls have eyes better than eagles. They can notice the difference between 1079p and 1080p on a 10-inch screen from 20 feet away. Spot the missing pixels is the name of the game for them!

And people like to think they can see the difference between 900 and 1080 on a TV from a NORMAL viewing distance, but you can't. Simply because you can't see the pixels of either res at 6-10 feet on an average tv.

PC monitor is the only exception because it's 2 feet from your face.

[VJGenova]

I'm going to play this with my pc at 3840x2160. People say they can't tell the difference between 1080p and 2160p. They are called "blind" people.

[SquidBuck]

The black bars were the developers choice.

[sonarus]

As a Ps4 owner i dont care about these debates cus i know i always get the best stuff.

PS: No interest in pc gaming. Thanks

[Dannylew]

the order is 21:9 Ultrawide Cinemascope Aspect Ratio.. that nothing have to do with this 900p.

[donthate]

Resolution is the least noticeable thing this generation. Stable frame rate is way more important.

That is why it is a shame that PS4 is focusing on resolution, because their customers are constantly chanting it. There have been numerous cases where a stable frame rate could have been achieved, but instead the game performs badly. Even compared to a lower resolution Xbox One version that has better frame rate.

Yup, a lot of chumps traded stable frame rate for resolution! Idiots!!!

[DarXyde]

The Order is 1080p.

[northpaws]

I am curious, for those who say there are no differences between 900p and 1080p, are the developers who make 1080p games for Xbox one doing something stupid then? Since they are wasting resources on resolution instead of graphic effects, perhaps you all need to start a petition, let them know you guys don't want any 1080p games, since there are no differences.

[GMR_PR]

There is a difference no doubt but its a small difference. Games look slightly sharper when they are 1080p.

[bennissimo]

lol That chick looks like Carl in The Walking Dead.

[DemonChicken]

Nope that chick looks like stefanie joosten

https://www.google.co.uk/se...

Which it is

[Conzul]

EEEEEEEEEEEEWWWWWWWWWW GROSS

[bennissimo]

http://um.smash.com/2014/11...

[Fin_The_Human]

Am I the only one who clicked for the boobs?

[Neonridr]

It's the placebo effect unfortunately. People will believe they are seeing a better image even if it's impossible based on their distance from the image or the size of their TV.

PC gaming has the most benefit for differences in resolution because on average you are sitting a mere couple of feet away from the screen.

The game will still be the same for both Xbox and Playstation gamers, so in the end, everyone will win with a great experience.

FPS will be more of a determining factor if one is offering a stable framerate vs the other having a varying fluidity.

[VerdicLinwe]

Just because you need a pair of glasses doesn't mean we all do buddy. I can clearly see the difference no problems at all. I would have to be sitting 17 feet back and at a 42" or smaller display to not notice it. (My living room TV is that far back and a 55" - 900p from AC Unity on PS4 wasn't very noticeable. Episode Duscae Demo wasn't as noticeable at that distance either. On my 42" on my desk at 3 feet away I can very easily see things like that and aliasing.

[NinjaNick]

That's absolutely, positively, false. There are many charts and guidelines done on the average distance that a person can distinguish pixels and higher detail on tv, and 17 feet is sure as hell not it. It's more like closer than 4 feet..

I have good eyesight and i ran some tests on a 40-inch 1080P tv. I put my xbox 360 to output 720P on Geometry Wars 2 and sat back 6 feet from the tv, as it upscaled it to the 1080 native screen res, and then I put the xbox into full 1080 native and played the same game, and there was no visible difference at that distance. Not any blurrier and I couldn't see the pixels. Only at 4-3 feet did I start to see the difference in 720 upscaled to 1080 and native 1080..

[SUCKxITxEZ]

These people need to play advanced warfare on Xbox one. Is has a dynamic resolution that switches between 900p and 1080p. Start up zombies, run in a circle, then stand still for 3 seconds and you can clearly see it switch from 900p to 1080p, or need glasses.

[Neonridr]

of course you can see those differences at a distance of 3 feet. You are 3 freaking feet from the TV screen. Which I might add is probably not very good for your eyes with a screen that big.

There have been countless studies not to mention the fact that your eyes have a finite precision when it comes to differentiating pixels.

But whatever, if you think you are above medical science, then go nuts buster brown.

[DafunkyRebel]

which is why PC gamers are always blind and fat cause they sit alot....and very close

[VerdicLinwe]

Genius!!

[quaneylfc]

I don't get the voting system in these comments.

I'm not a PC gamer but if someone who is implies that the graphics are better on their format, I'm inclined to agree.

[Spotie]

Unless their vision is poor, it's not impossible. Has nothing to do with a placebo.

It DOES have to do with familiarity with the differences, though.

Back before I got a PS3 and an HD TV to match, I couldn't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p. I just knew they were both MUCH better than the 480p I'd spent years looking at. Once I got used to the higher resolutions, though, I could spot the differences in an instant.

All this "People can't tell the difference" stuff is based on that. I mean, how long has 900p been a thing? Certainly not long enough that most people would be used to it. Add in that it's frequently upscaled- something that didn't always happen to 720p- and it makes recognition that much more difficult.

There's a world of difference between a curveball and a slider. But until you know what to look for, all you know is that it's not a straight pitch.

[jmc8888]

Wrong.

Viewing distance is a sliding scale not an absolute.

I.E. When morons say you don't see a benefit for 1080p unless you have a 40" or larger. They are morons.

I.E. When idiots say you don't see a benefit for 4k unless you have a 55" or larger. They are idiots.

Distance... same thing.

There is such a thing as OPTIMAL size and distance, but you still get MASSIVE benefits even if you are way outside those optimal lines.

For instance. Take a cellphone. Most people have 3-6 inch screens and hold it 1 1/2-3 feet away, and so by the morons measure, you shouldn't see anything better if it's 480p or thereabouts. But as we all know, you can see even on tiny cellphone the benefits of a 720 screen, 1080, even 4k. So it's pretty funny when 4k makes a difference on a phone, but people expect it not to on anything less then a 55".

Just like the human eye doesn't see frames, but it has been shown that light variations are notice at well over 600 FPS, and with actual images, USAF pilots could see and recognize exactly what type of plane was flashed to them for one frame that lasted 1/220th of a second...which would correspond to 1 frame running at 220 FPS.

Also PC's aren't all only a couple feet away. With a 39" 4k capable of 136hz input at 1080p, I sit in a recliner about 4 feet away, others have bigger screens and sit on their couches. PC and Consoles can be done the same way. They both can use HDMI.

It's not a placebo effect. Sorry, not even close.

[Neonridr]

so you sit 4 feet away.. how is that not "a few" feet? Does that statement automatically end after 3 feet or something?

A TV would have to be over 50" at a distance of 10 feet or greater otherwise your eyes cannot distinguish the individual pixels.. that is not an opinion, that is the science of your eyes. The pixels become so small at that distance that your eyes cannot pick up one to the next, so they blend together.

If you can see the differences, then congrulations, you are in the .001% of the world and should be using your superpowers for something greater than playing videogames.

[Haru]

blind xbox fanboy is obivously blind

[Neonridr]

PS4 user, look me up - Neonridr

[kraenk12]

That denial.

[d_g]

for sure Pc will have the Biggest difference

but in the end the game will look great on all platforms and everybody will enjoy it

[warczar]

I won't be able to enjoy it unless my visual experience is better than yours. /s

[DEEBO]

I don't care what gamers play this on just play it.

If you only have a xbox one cool cause you still going to have fun.

They even got it to run on the 360/ps3 at 720p so this masterpiece doesn't get miss.

[_LarZen_]

Just another article trying to downplay the difference on 900p and 1080p. Nothing to read here...move along.

[joeorc]

Just like last cycle, Sony's playstation 3 is not worth the cost because Microsoft's xbox360 is putting out better results on cheaper cost system.

It seems to be now it does not matter, now..if the Xbox one was the cheaper system with 1080p and Sony was the one with 900p and more expensive than Microsoft's system, many would be throwing it up in the face of playstation gamer's.

Its getting to a point now, that playstation fans should just say..

To hell with it and just give them the win on gamer forums

Microsoft's system has the best network, the best games, the better system and just let the gamers gloat how ineptitude Sony is with the playstation ran part of its company and how they cannot run a company network and and how much better Microsoft is.

As a matter of fact, why not just let the game console market become a direct clone of the PC market and where one company makes the only OS and Api developers make software for and have Sony just make PlayStation software for Microsoft's system.

Because that's what is best for this market./s

[warczar]

It is fascinating how no one who is pro Microsoft remembers last gen. What's really sad is the original ps3, from a hardware standpoint, was quite possibly the most well built videogame console ever. Backwards compatibility, the ability to play nearly every disc format under the sun, hdmi and optical audio outputs, more card readers than most pc's, oh yeah and it was the cheapest bluray player you could get for like the first 5 years of its existence; none of it mattered because of a perceived ram gap and a few extra fps. I guess you could say Sony learned what the market wants.

[Zhipp]

The Xbone is cheaper than the ps4 now, as it always should have been.

[Sonyslave3]

That one hot guy in that pic though ^__^

[yewles1]

...cheatcc at it again?

[scark92]

Haha We all know what they are like at this point.

[TotalSynthesisX]

I noticed the difference when I played Arkham Knight. 900p on my XB1 looked like crap. Personally I think 720p looks better than 900p simply because it can be upscaled to 1080p relatively easily, at least from what I can tell. Battlefield 4 at 720p looks better than Arkham Knight at 900p in my opinion.

No big deal though. I'm getting MGSV for PC anyway. None of my Xbox friends are getting it, so I might as well go all out and get a crisp 1080/60.

[PlayableGamez]

You contradict yourself badly in this comment.

[NinjaNick]

You're SO wrong it's not even funny. Well, it's a little funny... 1600x900 is a 16:9 resolution, just like 1280x720, and they will upscale EXACTLY the same on a 1920x1080 TV, which is also in a 16:9 format, except 900p will be sharper due to having about 50% more pixels than 720P.

So...900P is always better.

ALWAYS.

And Batman looks great in 900p on the X1. The image is slightly softer than the PS4 version, but it's only noticeable side by side.

Ignorant armchair developers and critics like you is what's wrong with gamers today.

[2pacalypsenow]

The MGS V version ON Ps4 is the best among consoles.

There that's the answer

2.7 Million Pixels VS 1.4 million that's a lot of pixels

[xTheMercenary_]

2.7 million?? almost 2.1 bro not 2.7, probably just a slight mistake on your side.

[UkrainianWarrior]

It's sad that you got 6 agrees when you couldn't even get the math right.

2 million vs 1.4 million pixels.

Sounds like a big difference, however, the law of diminishing returns says otherwise. It's a small difference, much like 4k and 1080P would be no different at all from a viewing distance of 10 feet away on a 40-inch screen..

[2pacalypsenow]

Sorry 2.073 million

[xTheMercenary_]

Hence why i said almost 2.1 million. I knew 2.7 didn't seem right the difference sounded way too big.

[ZaWarudo]

It's a minuscule difference.

http://www.twinfinite.net/2...

http://images.eurogamer.net...
http://images.eurogamer.net...

It's not a day and night difference by a long shot.

[silver-ten]

http://i.imgur.com/TAdvsll....

[Sonyslave3]

Man Japanese people love making guyz question their sexuality with these hot traps lol.

[FreshRevenge]

I only click on the article because I thought the author had more pictures of Quiet to show off.

She looks great and I really hope they use her well within the story.

[scark92]

Hopefully she will out perform Gordon Freeman!

[Tankbusta40]

I am sure the differences aren't too obvious unless you are really looking for them, but since I own both system I will get it on PS4 just because. I am sure anyone who grabs it on XBOX ONE will get a fantastic game worth the 6 year agonizing wait!

[assdan]

Yes, 900p looks better than 1080p. You can argue the BS all you want that the human eye can't tell the difference all you want, but many people can tell the difference at ranges that don't match up to what the author claims. 900p isn't a world ending difference, but saying that doesn't make the ps4 version better is just straight up incorrect. That's like telling me that having $100 is just as good as having $115. It's simply not.

[ChrisW]

This is blasphemy! How dare they try to alter my jaded perception of what should be the standard for resolution!!!

[Jaqen_Hghar]

Not just about resolution. With better hardware comes a more stable experience with less frame drops and some little graphical touches that make it more immersive. Plus you're paying the same amount for a game that is simply better. However much better is debatable but it IS better.

[DrumBeat]

Christ, I'm tired of this.

1080p is better, noticeably better than 900p. Is it night and day? Maybe not, but it's still better to a noticeable degree.

Full HD is Full HD for a reason, and 1080p is the lowest Full HD can be. 900p is not Full HD.

[Ra3v3r]

There is a difference but it's not so noticeable that I have to play or watch everything in 1080p. People go on like it's a huge difference similar to what we had moving from VGA to even QHD years ago in PC gaming.

It's more noticeable in motion due to some of the ragged edges that the upscaling on XB1 produces but even then is usually only if you're actively looking for a difference. Ryse was 900p and it's still (unfortunately) one of the best looking games this generation.

The only game where the difference was highly noticeable for me was Battlefield 4 and even then it was purely due to the HUD scaling - on XB1 I found it was larger and obscured more of the screen.

I'd rather play a game at a lower res if it keeps the frame rate up. Juddering just kills any enjoyment. If I get both HD res and rapid frame rate, then great but as it stands neither the PS4 nor XB1 can deliver that on multiplats.

[SatanicEyeJesus]

If you can't see difference between 1080p x 900p you really need an Xbox One.

[JohnnyRico305]

The few people here arguing about resolution really makes me question what you guys see as important. If you let something like resolution affect which version of this masterpiece you get, then maybe you all should take a step back and reevaluate what's important. It all should come down to what's your personal preference. When did everyone become graphics whores??? Ps4 or Xbox one? It all comes down to what system you prefer. Achievements or trophies? Psn or Xbox live? Dual shock or Xbox gamepad? That's what should matter. By the way it's already been confirmed the final resolution is 1080p on both systems. So the difference is negligible. All I care about is enjoying the story and building up mother base. By the way add me on xbox love or psn. Xbox tag is NinjaassassinX6. Psn I'd is XxREAPER305xX. I'm getting it on Ps4 but may get it on Xbox if MGO is awesome and my friends like it.

[solidboss07]

What?? I sit about 8 ft from a 42" display and can certainly see,the difference. Look Pee-Wee Im not suprised that you cant see a difference with 32" display. I am certain when the game is released that people will notice a difference when lining up enemies in crosshairs. A bit premature writing of glorious 1080p before we can really compare the game across platforms. GZ gameplay or PP screen shots don't cut it. And its not just resolution, PS4 can employ more aggressive anti-aliasing ect.

(was this damage control attempt?? Ha ha)