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UPDATE: PSN Recovering After Today's Outage

PlayStation's PSN status page has recently gone back to green, and is reporting that the PSN is back online. Meanwhile, PlayStation's official Twitter support account has posted this update:

Update: We are seeing reduced reports of network issues. We'll continue to monitor - thanks for your patience and happy holidays!
— Ask PlayStation (@AskPlayStation) December 25, 2014

Kaiyu3143410d ago

Just glad its back up. Happy Holidays.

vishmarx3410d ago

thats odd. i played 5 or so hours of gta last night and didnt suffer a single disconnection

thorstein3410d ago

It's intermittent. The Destiny servers were having similar trouble. I just kept trying once I was on PSN. Seems fine now.

DeadlyOreo3410d ago (Edited 3410d ago )

Yeah, it's still completely down for me in London, England. It's annoying to say the least, especially on Christmas Day :(

Edit: It either says it can't connect to the server, or it's undergoing maintenance.

lipton1013410d ago

It's still down for me.

Testfire3410d ago

California, USA here, can't log into PSN at all. Wanted to watch Netflix, but no go.

SilentNegotiator3410d ago (Edited 3410d ago )

Down/issues for some isn't an "outage"

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solar3410d ago

As a PC gamer, this pissed me off for you PS and XB1 chaps. Hope they get it up and running soon for all. Merry Christmas gamers.

Findingcrybabies3410d ago (Edited 3410d ago )

yeah, but for how long? Paying for a service means they should have defense against constant DDOS, its OBVIOUSLY a constant and ongoing issue.

Spotie3410d ago

Yeah... NOBODY has constant defense against DDOS. Did you bother to look up what a DDOS is first before saying that?

Strikepackage Bravo3410d ago

That's incorrect there are defenses against DDOS. The hackers themselves have said it is a lot harder to bring down Xbox Live. They have never been able to bring down the Xbox one Live service for more than say 90 minutes or so, and even then it is usually just a friends list that goes missing. Xbox 360 is slightly more vulnerable because it doesn't run on Azure. The bottom line is Sony just doesn't have the cash to build a network with the capacity to resist such attacks.

MajorGecko3410d ago

dony should divert ps npw devolopement money fpr psn network defence second time this month psn gets ddosed this problem wont go away sony needs to wake up

medman3410d ago (Edited 3410d ago )

@strikepackage bravo
Uuhhhhh....no. Both my psn and xbox live were down for Christmas, xbox live came back up before psn did though. My psn is still out, while xbox live was gone for about seven hours during the day today for me. Don't hackers have better things to do than pester gamers and game companies with this nonsense? Hack some communists nations already. Leave us alone. I'm not impressed.

indyman77773410d ago

@Strikepackage Bravo that a big lie. I still cant get into Xbox live it is now 9:49 where I am at. It was noon when I last earlier.

To say there is a legit ddos is to show extreme ignorance.

SilentNegotiator3410d ago

That's like blaming cops for someone getting stabbed to death in an alley.

Locknuts3409d ago

@silentnegotiator - it's more like blaming the cops for someone breaking into a police station.

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Findingcrybabies3410d ago

let them live in their stupid little worlds strike. Let them do a few searches and now they're an expert on any subject. The world needs people like them too.

rainslacker3410d ago

My job before changing careers to go into game development was a network security analyst(writing internal security software to be exact), so I didn't do my research on Google, I did it in four years of college, and I can tell you that Strike is wrong in his assertions. While there are defenses against DDoS, no company is able to prevent them 100%.

MS is a bit more adept at getting things up and running when an attack happens due to a massive amount of redundancy in their servers, but to expect Sony to ever be able to match that kind of redundancy is unreasonable since MS makes most of that redundancy available for it's massive business interests. Sony wouldn't have any reason to go that far.

There are very few companies that could afford to have, or even have a need to have, the kind of redundancy that MS runs, and Sony simply doesn't need it to prevent a few DDoS attacks from time to time.

I'm also sure the consumer wouldn't be willing to pay for it either. Truth is, most gaming companies don't have the need, or the resources to run that many servers. Of course, that's not to say that Sony couldn't outsource it to some other service, such as through Amazon, or even MS if they so chose...heck it might even be cheaper for them to do so, and there is no shame in doing so, although Sony does have it's own servers so probably not necessary.

As far as the most recent wave of attacks, assuming that Lizard Squad is to blame, and we take them at what their word, they aren't attacking any of the manufacturers servers directly, they're attacking servers that are upstream, which means that the DDoS is really out of both companies control and it is more up to the ISP(likely a regional ISP one step away from the internet backbone) to take care of it. That means that other services which use the same ISP are likely having service issues as well, but we aren't likely to hear about those because the average person just goes on with their life when a web service is temporarily unavailable.

jc123410d ago

Good to hear, I still cant get on PSN as of right now.

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SeanScythe3410d ago

Mine is still down, my internet is working because I'm using it now to post this.

kenshiro1003410d ago (Edited 3410d ago )

Mine just went down. Said something about maintenance.

Edit: It's back up now.

SeanScythe3410d ago

Friends list is loading but can't get on any online games. Gtav takes you to story mode and says its online is down.

DefenderOfDoom23410d ago

Here in the east coast of USA, PSN down for me , hopefully it will up again tonight .

HollowZbankai3410d ago

im in east coast and i think it went down one time earlier, but i signed back in and it worked. that was probably 5am. its been working fine since

stavrami-mk23410d ago

i was ok anyway till 20 mins ago now i can't get on hope this gets sorted soon

PoSTedUP3410d ago

mine was working. vita has been working but PS3 says its under maintenance.

CorndogBurglar3410d ago

Lizard Squad said they would do this crap on Christmas. Unfortunately I expect them to be screwing with Xbox Live and PSN all day.

GameDev13410d ago

Are we even sure its Lizard squad?

It might just be holiday consoles going live all together as people get their consoles and go online adding to hefty traffic

And Lizard squad would pathetically claim responsibility even if it wasnt them

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rainslacker3410d ago

I'm starting to have my doubts that it is Lizard Squad. Current outages could just be normal Christmas overload. I could see it when they hit several places a few months ago(Blizzard, XBL, PSN, LOL, etc) although someone else also took credit for it, but since then it does seem like they are just taking credit for random outages. Everything seems so random with no real purpose, even if a stupid purpose. They haven't been saying that they will take something down one day, then it goes down that day. They always claim they are responsible after the service is down.

One might say they said they'd do it on Christmas, but slow intermittent service on Christmas day is not out of the ordinary, so it's kinda like a Patcher prediction

They did do a reddit thing where they did seem to know how to execute a DDoS attack, but it's getting to the point where I can't imagine there is any reason to anymore, but it does make sense that they do like some attention without much effort.

There's also the fact that if they had attacked companies as often as they claim, the authorities would have definately done something about it. But if there is no evidence that they actually did something besides trying to be cool by claiming credit, then there isn't much they can do to them.

ALLWRONG3410d ago

"Lizard Squad said they would do this crap on Christmas. Unfortunately I expect them to be screwing with Xbox Live and PSN all day."

Mostly just PSN, some people in the UK had trouble with the "360" for about a half an hour.

Nice attempt though.

Brix903410d ago

Wow nice job sounding like a douche...

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New data suggests PlayStation PC trophies are in the works

A recent trophy list published on the PlayStation Network contains hints that Sony is testing PlayStation PC trophies.

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XxSPIDEYxX195d ago

How sweet of Sony to slowly migrate their audience to PC.

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Sony Quietly Removed the Ability to Transfer Games from PS3 to Vita - PlayStation LifeStyle

Sony removed the ability to transfer games from PS3 to Vita, which unfortunately locks Vita players out of a lot of PS1 classics.

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ZeekQuattro703d ago

Sony really hates the Vita. Years later and they're still finding ways to snub owners of the device.

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Tacoboto703d ago (Edited 703d ago )

Sony really hates the players, demonstrated by an onslaught of anti-consumer moves - from PS+ Cloud Save restrictions, enforced DualSense on-console (despite input flexibility on Remote Play), no DLC Support for PS3 PS+ titles, upgrade fees on not just cross-gen titles but also now on their new PS+ service, to things like this.

Only Nintendo out-snubs Sony on treatment of their players.

King_Noctis702d ago

This I have to agree. Nintendo is the worst when it comes to consumer-friendly moves, and now Sony is coming so close.

Auron702d ago (Edited 702d ago )

Well atleast nintendo dont dictate/cherry pick what deserves censorship on 3rd party titles.

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Goozex702d ago

Ya ms has anti consumer moves like drm

persona4chie702d ago

I fully agree that Nintendo cares less about its fans and stuff, but can we look at each company for what they’re doing not others? Yeah I’m irritated at Nintendo for more or less ignoring drift, limited releases like Mario 3D all stars etc, but guess what when I’m mad at Sony for something I’m not going to keep bringing it up, it’s not going to change the fact that I still can’t transfer my ps1 games.

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Wrex369702d ago

Yeah unfortunately they gave it a decent start then just kind of relegated it to the bin. Really great handheld though and in its day was my favorite. Gravity Rush, Persona 4 golden, uncharted, tearaway, freedom unite monster hunter(psn downloaded psp version), and DRAGONS CROWN.. just to name a few.. such a good handheld I'd wish they'd try again man.

shinoff2183702d ago

Only indie devs helped keep it alive sony got some games made for it. Just most aaa devs didnt bother. That was the vitas downfall

darthv72703d ago

It seems like this was included in the most recent PS3 and Vita fw updates. So as long as i dont upgrade my systems... it should still work.

porkChop703d ago

What, why? I don't understand the point of this.

Inverno703d ago

People, jailbreak you Vita.

IanTH702d ago

Yeah, I'm not sure why Sony did this. It's one more thing to push people towards CFW, and then that's basically priming people to pirate. Why would they take away a feature? Why do companies continue to punish the loyal, paying customers? It boggles the mind.

flyinb11701d ago

This definitely pushed me to do it.

GoodGuy09703d ago

Just mod your vita and ps3 lol.

one2thr702d ago

This, Pokémon Inclement Emerald on PSVita🤯

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PlayStation Network Currently Generates Over $14 Billion In Sales

PlayStation Network currently generates over a staggering $14 billion in digital sales.

MastaMold706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

Yea with this type of revenue could people start to realize and drop the topic of "Sony needs a Game pass. "

TheGreatGazoo30706d ago

That is what all the smart business people are saying "subscription models are a fad."

Silly gameAr706d ago

@TheGreatGazoo

They also said PS Now was a failure. You think all that money is coming from sub models alone?

Bathyj706d ago

The only industry where people on the losing side think the leaders should follow the losers. Sony's clearly fine doing what they've been doing for 25 years. Selling games like the industry has always done.

Orchard706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

@Bathyj "Sony's clearly fine doing what they've been doing for 25 years. Selling games like the industry has always done."

Gotta future proof. I'm sure Blockbuster folk said the same thing about Netflix when it first came on the scene. Business models and consumer expectations change over time.

SullysCigar706d ago

^ sure Orchard, Blockbuster is one example. Another might be Netflix losing subscribers to the point they're changing their policy and threatening their customers.

Netflix started off as good value, then was amazing as the content was great as well as the price, but now it's expensive compared to it's peers and has lost a load of content to them. Original content is mostly crap now and I'm betting a significant crash in users is coming for them late this year.

My point being? Gamepass and anything Sony may do along those lines may well face the same fate. There's nothing wrong with diversification, but you have to focus on your main money maker and people are lapping up PlayStation traditional model - for good reason.

ABizzel1706d ago

They don't "need GamePass" for financials. They needed the revamp to ensure consumer engagement, loyalty, and market share didn't shift in favor of Xbox due to the potential short-term / long-term success of GamePass.

This is why we have the new PS+. They don't need a direct GamePass competitor, they simply needed an easy to get into and well-marketed subscription service that offers a library of games for the more casual consumer since the core fanbase actually buys games on PS.

Godmars290706d ago

Though, aren't they getting a Game Pass. Just that theirs wont include day one major releases.

MrNinosan706d ago

@Godmars290
They had it for years, way before Gamepass was a thing.

Obscure_Observer706d ago

"Yea with this type of revenue could people start to realize and drop the topic of "Sony needs a Game pass"

Well, whether Sony needs a "Game Pass" I can´t tell but, I´m certain they can´t allow themselves to stay idle and not react to Xbox´s recent advances either. According to Newzoo´s latest report, Microsoft´s year-on-year growth is +9,6% vs Sony -2,3% vs Nintendo +1,9%.

https://venturebeat.com/wp-...

Also once the Activision/Blizzard acquisition is completed, Xbox is expected to become the second biggest company in gaming, right behind Tecent.

https://venturebeat.com/wp-...

https://www.gamesindustry.b...

That´s why Sony´s future investments will be more focused on subscription services, GaaS, Multiplatform, PC and Mobile. There are also rumors of a PS Plus launcher for PC coming soon.

Die hard PS fans might hate the direction that Sony is apparently following under Yoshida (CEO) and Ryan by making PS games and services "less exclusive". But inteligent and reasonable PS fans knows that Sony must do what they have to do if they intent to survive trillion dollar companies like Apple, Google, Amazon and Microsoft while continue and deliver high quality game and services.

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RickRoland706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

“Gotta future proof. I'm sure Blockbuster folk said the same thing about Netflix when it first came on the scene. Business models and consumer expectations change over time.”

The difference here is overall convenience. You had to drive to the store and browse then purchase get a game/movie from them and drive home. You have free access from your house to browse and purchase on PS Network. If someone really wants a game and it is of quality and has great reviews they will buy it. Blockbuster lost to internet convenience, not pricing.

Over time subscription services get so large that the fees have to increase, making the value decrease…and as we have seen with sub services quality decreases also. Not everyone wants another monthly bill in their budget for 2-3 games a year they really want to play. A reliance on a sub service weens once you sift through the initial 3-6 months of library access. I know for myself that my gamepass subscription was much more amazing when I first got my series x than it is now 1 year later. At this point I’m just waiting for exclusives…which I wouldn’t mind purchasing without a monthly script because it’s a few games a year.

BehindTheRows706d ago

He knows that, he’s just on the “opposing view” because it’s PlayStation. If Xbox generated this much, and more than PlayStation, it’d be a whole different tune.

Truth is Sony has the winning model and should keep doing exactly what has won them generation(s).

1Victor706d ago

But but but I was told that PS3 was Sony last console and Microsoft was going to buy them.
I want my money back from those damn cheap pact of Gypsies predictions 🤷🏿

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neutralgamer1992706d ago

In fluffy's voice "DAMN"

PlayStation is universal brand. It sells in every country and the brand recognition is just on another level. I think it was like 2018 or 2019 when PlayStation generated more money than Xbox and Nintendo combined

MastaMold

Sony doesn't need GP because they have a huge library of games from their past generations that people can't wait to play again with trophy support. And they have been the best ever since launch of PS5. Game after game while as a Xbox series X owner I am playing the wait game. HFW, GT7, GOW, TOKYO Ghostwire and rumor has it TLOU remake will release this year too. While Ms have all the resources and not much AAA content

Hopefully 2023 is when Xbox can get on a steady schedule for releasing awesome games. Honestly this is the last straw if anything like this happens again than Phil has to and I do mean has to go. He can't be failing this badly with the amount of resources at his disposal

Aloymetal706d ago

''PlayStation is universal brand. It sells in every country and the brand recognition is just on another level. I think it was like 2018 or 2019 when PlayStation generated more money than Xbox and Nintendo combined''

You're absolutely right with both statements.!
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Eonjay705d ago

I would like to point out that even though is evident that Sony doesn't 'need' GP, they are going to profit very handsomely from their own subscription and they are going to do it without compromising the revenue they get from their first party releases.

Sony Nintendo and Microsoft have worked together to enrich each other. Sony took PSNow, rebranded it to be like GamePass with it's catalog of newer games and then added in Nintendo's retro service. They deserve credit for taking some great aspects of their competitor's programs and making it work for their business.

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Flawlessmic706d ago

Love to hear it, now keep giving us the usual AAA single player bangers, keep the gaas rubbish to a minimum.

thesoftware730706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

That's good money!

Playstation Network includes all digital purchases, DLC, MT, the monthly/ yearly fee, PSnow and any other paid service on the network.

120mill PS4 and 20 mill PS5, I'm not surprised.

Lol, why mention they don't need a GP service when they are actually doing a similar service come June. I would take that to mean they see more $$ coming from it.

I would surmises the other 2 systems generate in the billions for their digital services as well.

SullysCigar706d ago

"why mention they don't need a GP service"

Because they don't. It's called diversification. They're aiming to offer choices and the best of all worlds. To suggest they 'need' it, though, when they're taking profits like that would be plain wrong.

thesoftware730706d ago

Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?

Subscriptions services are what all gaming associated brands are doing, Amazon, Google, Nvidia, Ubisoft, EA, MS, Nintendo, Apple, and even Netflix.

Please stop with the "they are diversifying", spin nonsense. They all are, if you can purchase games in a multiple way on

thesoftware730706d ago

Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?

Subscription services are what all gaming associated brands are doing, Amazon, Google, Nvidia, Ubisoft, EA, MS, Nintendo, Apple, and even Netflix.

Please stop with the "they are diversifying", spin to make them sound different nonsense. They all are diversifying by definition, if you can purchase games and services in multiple ways on a platform then they are all giving diversifying options lol. Sony just like the rest of them sees money to be made.

You can buy, MS games on PC, Xbox, in a store, digitally or sub to GP...see diversifying. You can buy Nintendo games on Mobile, in a store, digitally or you can sub NSO..see diversifying. You can buy games, and 1000 different apps on IOS and android or you can sub and get them...diversifying. Sny is no different, their games selling well means nothing, Subs are industry standard and they are just now bolstering that specific dept. because GP and others popularity can't and shouldn't be ignored.

No need to make them sound like they are doing something special, they are simply moving in a well laid out direction as well.

****Sorry for the double post, had to tend to something***

SullysCigar706d ago

^ "Uh-huh, but who claimed they "needed" it?"

Well, you, when you said, "Lol, why mention they don't need a GP service", but it's no big deal.

By the same token, nowhere did I claim Sony is doing something different, nor did i employ spin. I'm sorry, I might not be the fight you're looking for. I'm just pointing out the situation, not comparing them to any other company.

GamingSinceForever706d ago

What Game Pass does is offer all 1st party and some 3rd party games day one. So no Sony doesn’t need to copy that. That is what was meant when people said that.

thesoftware730706d ago

The 14 billion is not from games alone, it is generated through ALL service sales and usage on the network, even movie streaming, HBO Max, Netflix, Spotify, 3rd party services in general, and yes the gaming division.

I get that it's making money, but the whole "no need for GP-like service", when they are indeed doing a GP-like service is pure worship and a pointless thing to say. Offering the 1st party games on day one has nothing to do with this, technically none of them have to do that, they just chose different directions with that one specific thing.

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GamingSinceForever706d ago

Sony doesn’t need a GP like service, but that isn’t to say one wouldn’t be nice to have.

Anyone with common sense would love to have the option of playing Playstation games on day one at a monthly cost, however Sony in their current position doesn’t need to go there because they are still making a nice profit selling games at full price.

So no it isn’t worship, it is just stating the facts. They feel that giving away their games would dilute the quality.

MrNinosan706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

They had PSNow for years, they're just rebranding and cleaning it a bit.

John_McClane706d ago

I wonder how much of the money generated comes from their movie company?

Deeeeznuuuts706d ago

Separate division of Sony, so none.

John_McClane705d ago

@DeeeezNuuuts They sell their movies on psn don't they?

P_Bomb704d ago

They stopped selling movies/tv on PSN a while back.

jBlakeeper706d ago (Edited 706d ago )

Because the service they are releasing isn’t meant to compete with GamePass.

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