Is Uncharted 3 a Disappointment? iNintendo Podcast Ep 8

After a seven month hiatus, Carl, Joey, and newcomer Christian return for an eigth episode of the official iNintendo podcast. The crew discusses Batman: Arkham City, Lord of the Rings: War in the North, and they ponder whether or not Uncharted 3 is a disappointment.

[omi25p]

I was a little disapointed by the story. But the gameplay, graphic and everything else is great

[TheBlackMask]

Whaaaa...

The story was brillaint as always, the only thing which I was dissapointed in was small things like how even though ND listens to fans to have more Sully on screen time the other characters suffered because of this. Chole felt like a waste, another great character like Charlie wasn't used as much and Elena was hardly in it...kind of like what happened to Sully in U2.

Aside from that the story was great....I think people just like to nit pick.

[omi25p]

I would post the reasons i didnt like the story but last time i did i was marked as spam for posting spoilers to soon after the games release even though it had a spoiler warning.

Which is fair enough i guess. But i do have real reasons as to why i didnt like the story and they arent nitpicking. If your interested ask me in PM u

[ikkokucrisis]

I actually liked UC2's story over this one (which felt a lot more 'safe' storytelling wise). I hope for the next one they pull out all the stops and take more risks.

On the flip side, multiplayer is a lot better ;)

[WrAiTh Sp3cTr3]

The Uncharted franchise's stories have never been brilliant, it's the way it's told that always has...

[Iroquois_Pliskin]

...how did this get aproved?

[MaxXAttaxX]

with storytelling.

[nveenio]

One reason Elena didn't get much time (which is also one of my complaints...I love that lady) is because they didn't know for sure if they'd even be able to get Emily Rose to do any voice work because "Haven" had just been renewed for a second season. So they had to manipulate the story to work around all of that.

I did really enjoy seeing more about Sully and Drake, though. That was great.

As far as the story goes, they left one big hole for me, and that had to do with how the bad dude managed to get around so mysteriously. He seemed to appear and vanish out of nowhere, and that was never discussed.

[Thatguy-310]

Story wise it was perfect like the previous but there is a few downsides that have me liking uncharted 2 more as an overall game(single player wise). First and for most is the aiming !!! It's annoying and lacks the smoothness that uncharted 2 had. Secondly the horde of random enemies that pop out !!!! And not only that but they have shotguns,rocket launchers and snipers !!!! It's annoying when you die constantly. It's not impossible to pass the game in hard but its just frustrating. And the last part is that the new characters weren't really developed good because of the small role they played. Cutter was a good character but we didnt see much of him. I adore uncharted 2 because the new characters there developed perfectly and interacted with one another in a brilliant way. But story wise, graphics and online triumph over its predecessor.

[Thatguy-310]

As a matter of fact I find myself playing the multiplayer more than the story I just got into the chapter where the eclipse happens and the twist occurs.

[cyntell]

Thank God. I thought I was the only one having to get used to the crappy aiming. You go from the first and second one and then play this and it's horrible. I adjusted the sensitivity to help compensate but its not the same. Still a great game otherwise.

[Thatguy-310]

Ohh and let's be relistic Batman is going to win GOTY simply because it did what uncharted 2 did back in 09. It's the underdog from the bunch and it will win because of the critical success that it has gotten. If you don't see it then your just in denial and coming the vga's I will come back to this post and say I TOLD YOU SO

[Papertiger]

With a bold statement like that, you'd better hope so. Otherwise, you'd be eating your own words.

[SoapShoes]

U3 has had just as much critical success as Batman, don't you know?

[jwatt]

I really liked this one more than the second my only cons is that I had a few problems with my team AI not really helping out and ending feeling a little rushed.

For me I feel like this game is more memorable!

[StraightPath]

It is a great game but does not the same effect as Uncharted 2 had. But Batman seems to be the top dog so far.

[NewZealander]

my main issues with the game are the aiming! its so stiff, the animation is also starting to look old, i felt like i was always fighting for control over drake, almost like hes drunk, im sure UC2 wasn't this bad.

and the dark sections of the game look awful, either too dark or washed out if you try to fix the problem.

i dont know, i feel like UC3 has lost some of the magic that made UC2 so special.

[Pozzle]

The 'drunk' walking is definitely intentional. In this game, Drake now interacts with everything he touches, so he's a little clumsier than he was in U2. I didn't mind the clumsiness. It made him more 'human' imo. But sometimes I wish he'd stop grabbing the damn walls when I wanted to walk in a straight line. lol

[rezzah]

In the eyes of some "yes", in the eyes of others "no".

So what is the answer? Yes and no.

[jammy_70]

Is u3 disappointing? No... And the story was great. Controlling drake could still be improved though....

[Carlini360]

Did no one notice the clunky aiming? The terrible AI? The copy and paste story? And don't get me started on the plot holes. THERE ARE TONS. Then the multiplayer is pretty awful. All you have to do is run around blind firing and then hit the melee button. Yeah, this will take me off Battlefield 3. Naughty Dog should probably be embarrassed. And this is coming from a guy that thinks Uncharted 2 is one of the best games of all time. Guess I have to wait for Uncharted 4.

[NewZealander]

i agree the aiming needs to be fixed ASAP, and yes the AI is shocking, im still enjoying the game, but its far from perfect, after uncharted 2 i expected far more, im also a bit concerned that very few of the reviews actually pointed out these flaws.

i want U3 to be perfect, im just kind of sad that it couldnt manage to beat U2.

[gamer234]

u call it a disappointment ,yet its nominated 4 spike vga awards. even at 93, uncharted 3 is still higher than any 360 exclusive and u still call it a flop, why don't I see dis kind of media coverage 4 gears , forza or any 360 exclusive

[DeathAvengers]

Um... Rage much? They're entitled to their own opinions. Why do you have to bring the 360 into this?

[Goeres]

Because noone else do?

[Papertiger]

Its obvious to why people would stoop to such low levels. Its quite a common trend when it comes to the subject of ps3 exclusives. Its like they're under a microscope.

With Uncharted 3 We've seen more coverage with the singular 3 bad or below average review scores that have been given compared to the MULTITUDE of perfect/near perfect scores it was awarded. Its quite pathetic when you look at it. Two outliers got the most recognition to a fantastic title, and that's a shame.

What makes it worse is that everyone has been duped into giving them what they were vouching for when those reviewers gave those heinously low scores. Free publicity and page views.

[Gam3rSinceBiRTH]

Why do you care what the media says? Did you enjoy Uncharted 3? That's all that matters. Real gamers don't care about awards or reviews. Only time reviews would matter if they talk about serious glitches or horrible control. But story & characters are all subjective.

[Hicken]

Why do people always say this crap? It matters, for a number of reasons, what the media says.

First, if they portray a good or great game in a bad light, people see that, believe what they're told, and the game's sales suffer. Which means the worthy, hard-working developers suffer. Which means the chances of getting another standout title from them go down.

Second, when people put a lot of effort into something, and the end result is to be lauded, you want them to get the recognition they deserve. Naughty Dog has, yet again, produced something special, and they deserve to be praised for it.

Third, people tend to defend the things they like. Be it a sports team, a clothing brand, a car, or a video game, you defend the things you like BECAUSE you like them. You don't want to hear someone talking bad about your favorite sports team- even if they suck- or saying your favorite car- or yours, specifically- is a piece of crap, and this only gets worse when it becomes the media, because their power is more potent and influential than one individual's.

I'm certain there are other reasons, perhaps tied to these, perhaps separate, but these are the most important ones that come to mind when I think of why I care about what the media says. Honestly, I think you'd be foolish NOT to care.

Story and characters, by the way, are NOT subjective. Liking or disliking them may be, but the development and depth of characters and the story and world they take part in is something that can and should be looked at objectively.

[LarVanian]

As I said before, the only thing about Uncharted 3 that disappointed me was the villain(s), but that wouldn't stop me from giving the game a full 10/10. The whole game was an absolute blast but the very last two chapters in particular were completely jaw dropping.
I would honestly go as far to say that Uncharted 3 could be seen as a preview of the experience that early next gen games will provide.

[Thatguy-310]

I agree I was disappointed the way they used the villain in this installment. Was expecting her to be or turn to some type of creature towards the end of the game..wanted to beat the sh*t out of her with the new meele system lol

[Relientk77]

Nope not even close, Uncharted 3 is completely amazing

Every game in the Uncharted series has been a completely epic and fun game

[PRHB HYBRiiD]

yeap all the games are awesome the ONLY thing i dont like about it is that in all 3 games the story i kinda the same ur looking for treasures killing pirates there is always a bad guy who wants the hunted treasure and in the end u end up fighting monsters or demons and not getting the treasure cause is cursed i was hoping for something different this time around but oh well the game is still awesome .. playing on crushing mode (:

[Chuk5]

What? How? ND delivered a refined a experience built on the ideas of one of the best action games in history.

[lorianguy]

There was only one disappointing thing for me

<SPOILERS, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED>

When Marlowe is sitting with Drake at a table after the hallucinations she says "Nathan Drake...well of course that's not your real name..but I won't dwell on that" -- This never gets explained and it irritates me!

[LackTrue4K]

i hurd hes a clone, and his real name is Snake!!!

[DanSolo]

I've not played UC3 yet, but I'd have to say from what you describe it sounds like it was never meant to be explained.... something like that is meant to just be a hint at something, which can be slowly revealed over more than one story!

It's not something integral to the story of the game... but to the wider back story that stretches across all the games in the series!

[Slient Knight 9]

@lorianguy

True but it's possible ND is leaving that for future Uncharted games as DanSolo as said.

Ok i guess SPOILERS AGAIN when Drake and Marlowe are talking about Drakes orgins we know about his mother who's dead and that his dad gave him up, so it's possible Drake's Dad could be involved in future uncharted games, and we might find out why he gave him up maybe he's shit dad or he has sercrets and we might find out what Drake's real name is.

I think the reason why Drake chose the name Drake and is obsessed with Sir Francis Drake is due to him wanting to escape who he really is and his past, so reading about Sir Francis Drake adventures, treasure and glory, he wanted to be like him so he created character Nathan Drake and he plays that role.

[lorianguy]

I like your thinking!

<SPOILERS AGAIN, BUT TO A LESSER DEGREE>

Seeing as you see when you first met Sully here, Elena in the First One perhaps in future games you will meet his parents, Charlie and I can't remember if you met Chloe in UC2.

[Slient Knight 9]

@lorianguy

You do meet Chloe in Uncharted 2 but there is histroy between her and Drake, which could be used for a prequel game, set before Drake's fortune but thats the same with Sully there seems the be alot of stuff Sully and Drake have done in the past, which could causes them problems in the future.

[lorianguy]

@Slient Knight

Last bubble :( No more replies..

So I can see this as being more a saga than a trilogy. There are many loose ends that need to be answered; and if I have to buy Golden Abyss to find them out, then so be it!

[rbluetank]

great points on Mrs Marlowe! aside from Mrs Marlowe the game was EPIC! i am still dizzy from certain parts of the game.... the game just shows how far the ps3 can be pushed!

[ArmGunar]

I've done U3 and it's one of the best game of this generation, better than Uncharted2 :)

[Chitown71291]

FInally someone agrees with me. U3 is much better imho

[Carlini360]

Sorry, in no possible aspect of gaming is Uncharted 3 better than Uncharted 2. That's a joke that you should even say that.

[Pintheshadows]

I absolutely love it. The story, puzzles, action. The MP is great as well. Some people have claimed it's unbalanced but I just get the feeling they aren't very good at it.

[GoldPunch-TR]

Nooo ! Graphics, story, sounds etc. amazing, masterpiece !!!

[Optical_Matrix]

Nope. It's one of my favorite games this generation. The pacing towards the end was questionable, and the game didn't impress me as much as Uncharted 2 did on a technical level, but the games a better package, the character development was the best of the franchise and I personally loved the setting. Makes me wonder where ND could go next. Not the best in the series, but my favorite? Yes. Definitely not a disappointment.

[GraveLord]

Guys, its a Nintendo podcast.....

[cyntell]

I know right. Should be a Nintendo franchise they should be talking about. "Is the hype for Legend of Zelda clouding reviewers perception of a flawed game" Now that's a headline.

[AdvanceWarsSgt]

Um, is it impossible for you fanboys to believe that people can like more than one game company?

[BrianC6234]

Why is a Nintendo y asking this? Uncharted 3 is great. It's maybe a disappointment to anyone who thought Uncharted 2 was the greatest game ever and expected this game to be even better. Kind of hard to do that. It doesn't make Uncharted 3 a disappointment.

[Papertiger]

Nintendo podcast giving a critical view on a ps3 exclusive? Ok now Ive seen it all lol.

But on a real note, I remember buying Uncharted 4 years ago and playing it with my best friend. We flipped coins on who would play next for every chapter. It was a blast. The story was AMAZING, and the gameplay was solid. We did the same for Uncharted 2, and had an even greater time.

This year was no exception. I personally think that Uncharted 3 is the best of the series. And that Katherine Marlowe is one fierce bitch. She was far more refined and intellectually evil than that meathead mercenary.

[Ares90]

the only part that I was a little disappointed with was the introduction to the lost city, but that doesn't stop Uncharted from being a great game. I remember the introduction to Shambhala, I think that's the best yet on the series. Uncharted 2 is a materpiece and so is Uncharted 3.

[Steelz4ever]

the only thing bad about this game was i didn't want it to end..i wish it could had lasted at least 3-4 more hours 10/10

[Gam3rSinceBiRTH]

The game is far from being a disappointment. Big Drake fan. One of the greatest characters in gaming.

If I had to pick one thing that I was disappointed in, it would be the control. I'm absolutely anal about shooting mechanics. I noticed the lag right away. To me, their is no excuse for having that kind of lag in this type of game. It took away the smooth shooting experience that I expect. Kudos for the upcoming fix, but it should of been their in the beginning. With that being said, I still had a lot of fun with this game. A solid 9 is what I give it.

[cyntell]

Again I'm glad someone else is dealing with the same problem. What did you here about the fix? I hope it is soon.

[Gam3rSinceBiRTH]

Yes the lag is a problem. Takes away from having a smooth shooting experience. But ND listened to the complaints and a patch is coming out soon. :)

[NJShadow]

Uncharted 3 was disappointing, while simultaneously being absolutely not disappointing. That may sound odd, but if you've beaten the game, then you know what I mean. Brilliant game, but there were undoubtedly some rough spots.

[Desert Turtle]

Yup, exactly what was said on the podcast.

[TimeSkipLuffy]

It had a playlength of a great movie and played as such. This game gave me a fantastic time and hope there will be a fourth installment of this epic triology so far ^^

[smashcrashbash]

Ummmm yeah, Im sorry, no. UC3 has a few minor flaws just like any game does but but a disappointment? Really? Because it got a few lower scores by idiots and people try as hard as they can to find fault suddenly it is considered a disappointment? Let me give some advice. If you practically have to scrape, dig and scratch to find fault in a game then it is usually an awesome game. UC3 lower score reviewers nitpick EVERYTHING in an attempt to find fault.

If we most drag out UC3 for its minor faults then I demand we drag everything else out and make new reviews for them as well. UC3 is linear? Then we need to minus points from Gears 3 for being even more linear. Animation is iffy at times? Then we need to drag out Dead Island and start minusing points for its akward fighting and movement. Story seems phoned in? Then BF3 scores need to lose another mark for crappy dialed in SP story. Characters seem not to have depth? Then lets drag out Rage for the cardboard cutouts they have as NPCs. But no one will.

[unicron7]

Haters gonna hate man. The game blew all other games out of the water this year for me. I think the only one I'll enjoy more is most likely Skyrim.

[zero_gamer]

I am definitely not disappointed in UC3. It isn't my favorite in the series but IMO it is still better than the original game.

[remanutd55]

well im not disappointed at all but not impressed either , i mean U3 is a really great game but it doesnt have the wow factor U2 had and i didnt like the ending at all , i feel like sony rushed it , just like they rushed Resistance 2 and other sequels this generation but the game is definitely great but not as great as U2 though , i was expecting more , the wow factor but didnt happen.

[Jihaad_cpt]

Sony rushed it? The Story was what they wanted Sony does not micro-manage

[remanutd55]

to me the game feels like it was rushed , i was expecting a better game than u2 and i just dont see it , it is a great game though but not epic like u2 was or still is , to each their own i guess

[P_Bomb]

The levels in general are more varied and more replayable in U3 imho. More flanks, including swimming and diving. Hardly rushed.

Last half of U2 was snow on a train, snow village, snow caves, snowy truck caravan, snow temples, and Shangri La.

Last half of U3 is the streets of Yemen Arabia, underground puzzle palace, a ship graveyard, an ocean liner, an airport, an airplane, a desert, desert village/storm, a horse caravan through cliffs, and Ubar. More to do, including the new foot chases and fist fight brawls. Drake VS Talbot is infinitely better gameplay than Drake VS Lazarovic. Play it on Crushing with no prompts.

[Jihaad_cpt]

this is the game that Naughty Dog put out, not Sony. Also I don't think it seemed rushed at all

[JonnyBigBoss]

I give it a 10/10. What do you think?

[AronDeppert]

Think it looks like a great game!

[eARThRiot]

If your not pleased with UC3 go f&#* yourself and stop putting impossible expectations on videogames!

[Ezetta]

No, it's not. It's a fantastic game. But frankly, I enjoyed UC2 more.

[unicron7]

I don't see any basis as to why it would be a disappointment. This game rocked from beginning to end. It has the set pieces and character development other franchises this generation would kill for.

[Mikefizzled]

Someone explain to me why this is marked under Xbox 360 please?