One man's case as to why the Super Smash Bros series towers over other fighting games, and why Melee is the best game in the series.
Masahiro Sakurai, the director of Super Smash Bros., explains why he believes online play isn't a good fit for the series.
I feel bad for Smash fans. Those guys have been trying to maintain the scene active for 20+ years and get nothing but hate from Nintendo.
Sakurai explains how he and Nintendo still don't understand how the internet works.
FTFY
Exactly, online play would be wonderful on Smash if Nintendo gave a crap about their online services. To be fair though, Nintendo's online offerings would be great if it were 15-20 years ago lol.
I've always said that Nintendo is either innovative and ahead of the curve
or 20 years behind, no in between
I’m sorry, but if a game is MP then there’s no f*cking argument that can justify no online MP. What he says about competition being different from just playing with friends shows me how out of touch these people are.
It’s not until a new generation that understands things steps in to clean-house that we’ll see some evolution here.
His argument is nonsensical. "You'd be limited to just playing people from your region". As opposed to being limited to playing people FROM YOUR COUCH!
What I don’t get is how do you not have competition and experience the same issue if you have a friend that’s way better than you?
It's a big fighting game so online multiplayer is a must. Competitive smash is the only thing I see fun in these games anymore asides from the big character reveals, singleplayer is laughable and you ain't gunna have people over for couch gaming much.
If Nintendo makes a new smash, it needs a huge evolution for singleplayer/couch play to be enjoyable for me any more. But we all know they'll just do a deluxe edition for their next console lol. They really need to up their servers as well.
I can't imagine Nintendo producing a better smash game than ultimate. Roll it forward with a deluxe edition maybe with an extra character or two and call it a day.
Some other developers can try pushing platform fighters to the next level, because I don't think Nintendo is up to the task.
They already created a better smash brothers game than ultimate when they created melee
he sounds more like is trying to justify Nintendo ineptitude to create a proper network infrastructure in order to Smash Brothers work properly online.
NetherRealm confirms its Mortal Kombat franchise has sold over 80 million copies in the last 30 years, and here's how it competes against other fighters.
Don't care what anyone says, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game. May as well call Powerstone and Playstation All Stars fighting games. They're more of an arena fighter /party game.
You don't have to care what anyone says. It's not a traditional fighting game. But it is a fighting game.
I mean what makes them an arena fighter than say something like Tekken? Because there’s platforms?
because theres a bunch of pokeballs and other random stupid stuff on stage that you can use at your advantage and flying ultra super power ball that you got to chase on the stage to get your ougi LMAO.
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I mean what it sounds like is they took a fighting game and “added” unique mechanics to it to me.
When I think arena game I think of things like Spawn: In the Demon’s Hand or Virtual-On.
Smash to me is a fighting game, they have fighting game tournaments for it. It just doesn’t jive with me to call it “not a fighting game” because you have poke-balls and platforms or because it has 4 players at once duking it out.
Power Stone I’d consider a fighting game as well. Hell, if you google what it is everyone calls these games “fighting games”. So yea, they’re fighting games…
oh its a racer but its not a realistic one like GT or Forza. only kids check for mario kart and smash .
I didn’t say it was realistic. I said racing game. Does Burnout not being realistic make it not a racing game?
What does a demographic have to do with a genre? Do kids playing CoD make it any less an FPS? You see how ridiculous bringing up that subject is?
Nobody said it was a traditional fighter. Everyone acknowledges it as a platform fighter
PSASBR & Power Stone are fighting games, the former being a platform fighter and the latter an arena fighter
Because if cute and lovable characters are fighting it's not a fighting game? XD As long there's a versus fighting, it is a fighting game.
Including Smash Bros in a list of fighting games, is like including GTA in Racing games.
I hate to break it to you but smash bros has fighting game tournaments so it qualifies.
"and here's how it competes against other fighters"
No, Mortal Kombat doesn't compete with games like Smash Bros? It's a different genre for a different audience.
Anybody can host a tournament in their garage it doesnt mean it qualifies.
I'm going to assume you're not part of the FGC. However, I am, and I can tell you that there is a ton of overlap between people who play smash competitively and those who play other fighting games competitively.
Now for casuals, there is a lot less overlap between the two for sure.
While technically true, Leffen comes to mind, FGC and Smash community have always had a rocky relationship.
And yet, If Smash Bros was over 80 million, you wouldn't be complaining. On the contrary, you would be bragging about it.
Bad comparison. You do a LOT of things in GTA outside of a car while fighting is what you’re mainly doing in SSB
Yeah, that's a good point. Most of these games have parts to the franchise outside of traditional fighting games.
Like for example, with Mortal Kombat, do Special Forces, Mythologies: Sub: zero, and the Kollection count?
With Tekken does death by degrees or the tag tournament games count?
With Street Fighter, are we counting all the iterations of 2, 3, and 4? how about the ex series or alpha series?
There are a lot of variables at play here
Even after including Tekken Tag, they have less titles compared to all MK and SF games.
The designer of the original Super Smash Bros. for the Nintendo 64 shows us the prototype that started it all.
for competitive yes; it was more technical with the wave dashing and etc....but like brawl better
both are good games, but Brawl+ beats both :D
I spent many hours on Melee, its one of the best games of last gen.
i understand people prefer melee to brawl
i think both are impressive but different. i prefer brawl anyway
But that doesn't mean it's better.In the long run, Smash Bros. Brawl sold 10 million+ units.