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Submitted by Tompkins 1155d ago | news

David Jaffe Hits Out at Twisted Metal Fan

A Twisted Metal fan has hit out at the game's creator's decision to include Jay-Z songs in the upcoming PlayStation 3 exclusive. Naturally, David Jaffe wasn't too pleased with the fan's comments and the God of War creator has responded to the fan's 'racist' comment. (David Jaffe, Industry, PS3, Twisted Metal )

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ShadesMoolah  +   1155d ago
Holy sh** is nowhere safe.
zootang  +   1155d ago
MSxbox-world.com????

I thought this was a PS3 exclusive.
GrieverSoul  +   1155d ago
The guy was being a douche alright.

Still, I dont like Jay-Z music... Im not very happy with him being on the soundtrack. I really dont like his music. But to go on an offensive personal attack to its skin color is just ridiculous.
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I_find_it_funny  +   1155d ago
I dont mind Jay-z but I hope its just one song

they could use something from JayZ vs LP albums
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the_kutaragi_baka  +   1155d ago
makes me laugh when people accuse people of being racist because they wont date someone from oppositte music preference.

So i find it funny how other people seem to think they have a right to dictate when it is ‘wrong’ that they dont date inter racially.
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SilentNegotiator  +   1155d ago
Jaffe calls out a racist and MSxbox-world calls him a douche. That makes sense. /s

But it's Playstation related. I shouldn't be surprised.

@Above comment
The comment wasn't racist because he didn't like rap. It's how he said it.
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ZombieNinjaPanda  +   1154d ago
The kid was being racist, he deserved the developer's retort.
BattleAxe  +   1154d ago
The USA needs to just let go of this hatred for people with different colored skin, its 2011 for heaven's sake.
SilentNegotiator  +   1154d ago
@BattleAxe

Who said the commenter was from the USA?

People need to stop thinking that racism is exclusive to the US and that everyone speaking english is from the USA.
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Lifendz  +   1154d ago
I wouldn't mind a little "99 problems" on a Twisted Metal stage. "Kingdom Come" would be hot. Maybe a little "Public Service Announcement" during the menus...I dunno...has some potential to me. Guy was probably looking for attention and he got it. Rather the re-publish these sorts of things I think we should just add it to the ignore bin.
Rattlehead20  +   1154d ago
@SilentNegotiator

What? They never called Jaffe a douche?!

Read the article man!
pixelsword  +   1154d ago
@ zootang:

well, given E3 and all, he has to write about *something*

=/... (really, get some info on Gears 3 or that roman game on kinect already!)

At any rate, why the Eff do they have the word racist in quotes like what that punk said was debatable if it was a racist quote or not?

You gotta wonder how stupid people are getting these days.
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gaffyh  +   1154d ago
@Silent - They didn't call Jaffe a douche anywhere in the article. Also the comment is very racist, he says:

" Not to be racist but I don't want to here blacks rap about there bitches and hoes at all. Nor do I want them playing TM. "

That's very racist imo.
Spydiggity  +   1154d ago
lets be clear here. the guy probably is a racist...but his comment was NOT racist. mentioning skin color does not make you a racist. He was not hating on another person's skin color, he was hating on the music.

hating on music is not racist and it's perfectly okay to do so. he shouldn't have said it the way he did though, because small minded people will deflect away from the issue (which is that the music choice sucks) and focus on the fact (the semantics) that he said "black."

again, the guy may be a racist...seems likely, but the point of the comment was not to be racist, it was to express a distaste in TM's choice of music. the person expressing the distaste just happens to be an idiot.

now, if anyone else says "jay-z sucks," they will also be labelled as a racist; when in fact, jay-z just plain sucks. if you're gonna put in some rap, lets go for some quality underground stuff...especially since TM feels like an underground type of setting (not literally underground). maybe some Immortal Technique (not really underground anymore, i suppose)?

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CarlosX360  +   1154d ago
How about fans start learning NOT to make spats with Jaffe. Then these fans wouldn't get these embarrassing spars. :P
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Lykon  +   1154d ago
I hate black gansta rap and i hate it in games but that doesn't make me racist and doesn't mean i prejudge people who like rap. It is actually quite a challenge to live around black communities with the crime and violence etc and not become prejudiced though.
ZombieNinjaPanda  +   1154d ago
If you guys seriously do not think that what the dude said wasn't racist, you need to re-look at it a couple times.

"'Really? Most of these suck! Is he really trying to get Jay-z songs in a Twisted Metal? Not to be racist but I don't want to here blacks rap about there bitches and hoes at all. Nor do I want them playing TM. "

I don't want to 'here' black's rap about their bitches and hoes at all.

****Nor do I want them playing TM."

If that ain't racist that I don't know what is.
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No Way  +   1154d ago
@Spydiggity -
Are you kidding, man? How can you say that that statement is not racist?
Okay.. "Not to be racist" Stop there, you know a racist comments coming.
Just because he mentioned that, he knew what he was sayin; bein racist.
"but I don't want to here blacks rap about there bitches and hoes at all."
Okay, so that may be more stereotypical, but being racist can be debatable.
"Nor do I want them playing TM." If you say that's not racist.. You're ignorant.
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Spydiggity  +   1154d ago
^^
i already explained VERY clearly why the statement itself isn't racist.

if he said "i want black ppl to die, or black ppl are ugly, or w/e" THAT would be racist.

what he said was that rap music is about hoes and whatever. well, that's actually pretty factual...sure, it's a generalization, but it's still not a lie.

the guy may very well be a racist, and the comment may have been tinged with racial connotation; but the point of the comment was that he didn't want a certain type of music in this game, and THAT is NOT racist.

people are so overly sensitive towards what white people say. if a black person said country music was just white people singing about trucks, would you think that's racist? NO! you wouldn't. because the comment isn't racist. it's a semi-factual generalization. the person that said it might be a racist, but the comment itself is not.

people really need to grow up and stop deflecting the issues with semantics. that is the point i was making, and i stand by it. i fully expected to get a ton of disagrees for my comment. people aren't smart enough to think beyond unimportant points...that's why nothing ever gets done in washington...too much emphasis on semantics and not enough focus on the real point.

if a racist says "i like turtles," that doesn't make the statement racist. his views towards race have NOTHING to do with the statement.

stop trying to be so overly pc and THINK! political correctness is such a blight on society anymore. sympathy and empathy are a good thing, but political correctness is a BS means of guilting stupid people into towing the line. and in this case, jaffe is using it as a way of side-stepping the issue, and that is that he is being called out for putting music that some ppl don't like into his game. but instead of doing the grown up thing, and arguing about why he put that music in there, he's deflecting the argument into an issue of race so that he doesn't have to address it. see how easy it is to win an argument when you make accusations of race? he automatically wins. it's incredibly childish.

EDIT: Ignorance is expressing an opinion or a point of view despite a total lack of knowledge or understanding. I completely understand where you people are coming from, and i partially agree. but the ignorance is your position on the argument when the overall point of the statement is about the music, not about black people. most rappers are black, and much of rap is about money and hoes. you can't dispute these facts. the fact that the guy is racist is irrelevant to the perspective being presented. he doesn't think rap music is well suited for twisted metal. if jaffe thinks it is, the ONLY argument that he counters with should be about why rap music IS suited for his game.
i recommend everyone goes and reads the text book called "The Art of Reasoning."
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jib  +   1154d ago
@spy

did you miss the part where he said he doesn't want "them" playing twisted metal?

and to quote: "I don't want to here blacks rap about there bitches and hoes at all. Nor do I want them playing TM" -- again: " ...NOR DO I WANT THEM PLAYING TM"

how is not wanting black people playing twisted metal not racist?
Marceles  +   1154d ago
I didn't mind the complaint until he said "Nor do I want THEM playing TM". I'm pretty tired of Jay-Z myself. I'm black, but shit like this is so racist that all I can do is laugh that there's still people like this in the world.
Anarki  +   1154d ago
I agree with the guy to an extent. I don't want to hear that kind of music. Twisted METAL.....should have METAL right?!
Kleptic  +   1153d ago
This is always a tricky topic to comment on without having someone pull the R card...

The kids statement was 'racist' in the extent that he labeled it 'not to be racist, but...'...

but what no one can argue against is that 80% of rap is generally a 'black person bitching about his hoes'...or 'money'...or 'weed'...its like people that don't prefer that type of music are not allowed to mention that most of it is exactly that...

and its perfectly fine for ANYONE to not like it...personally i can't listen to more than 30 seconds of pretty much all of Jayz's stuff...I don't find it cool, or hip, or why it sells so much...

but do I care if its in TM?...no...I understand there are plenty of people that do like it, and that doesn't bother me at all either...Pretty much any modern video game will have some degree of music I don't prefer, and i just either get over it, or hope the game has the custom music feature...which pretty much all Ps3 games do now anyway...

just lighten up...the kid had a point that the majority of available rap songs center around what he mentioned...that isn't his fault...he just went about the comment completely wrong, but its not like the backlash was THAT big of a deal either...

reminds me of this; still one of the funniest things i've seen this guy do:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
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fluffydelusions  +   1155d ago
Not really a fan of rap, 99.9% of the mainstream stuff is utter garbage. The closest I get to it is stuff from the likes of Massive Attack and similar who are pure win.
pixelsword  +   1154d ago
Underground 101:

If the track has a video and it's produced by a big label, it is mainstream.
T3MPL3TON  +   1154d ago
Massive Attack doesn't even do rap music. They do Drum and Base which is derived from Techno.

Not all rap is the crap on the tv man.. expand your view.
Bloodraid  +   1149d ago
Yes, all rap is crap... /s

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frostypants  +   1155d ago
Good for Jaffe. Bigots should always be humiliated.
Dlacy13g  +   1154d ago
Here here... bubbles for intelligence!
dragon82  +   1154d ago
+bubs
Carnage  +   1154d ago
*Screams like a rocker* BUBBALESS!!!! *Then does the moonwalk*
gunnerforlife  +   1154d ago
i dont know what the guy said, But i probs agree with him to a certain extent that Jay-Z songs r gone be a huge turn of for me just because hes oner of the worst rappers ever and i hate his music!
KwietStorm  +   1154d ago
You don't know what the guy said? Was it too much trouble to click the link?
GamerSciz  +   1154d ago
@gunnerforlife LoL, one of the worst? According to Wikipedia, Jay-Z is a pretty well respected rapper. He is by no means one of the worst.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

P.S. One of the worst would be Benzino. Look him up.
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BX81  +   1154d ago
Hmm
@gunnerforlife. Jay-Z called and said based on all your spelling mistakes he's not too sad you're not a huge fan of his. Now give me gum dumb dumb!
gunnerforlife  +   1154d ago
well i'm more of a fan of rap as in 2pac, biggie Eazy E, nas, big pun, big l etc.. rap/hiphop with a deep meaning, and not just nonsense about girls money and stuff like that.
and i hate 90% of commercial rapper!!!
infact only hiphop star that i hate more then Jay Z is probably Lil wayne.

@GamerSciz well he mite be respected in the industry but theirs allot of Hip hop fans that hate him just for being so commercial and sh1t, and i'm one of them
No Way  +   1154d ago
@GamerSciz -
Hahah, Benzino .. why would he go and fuck with Eminem? lmao.
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capitalK  +   1154d ago
He doesn't seem like the only racist in the forum (many are also admins and mods): http://temp.tmalliance.com/...
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T3MPL3TON  +   1154d ago
Yeah, I stopped even thinking of the forum a long time ago as I was banned for what I can only assume was due to my race.

There was a "What Nationality Are You" thread. I posted saying I was mixed (Black and White) and hadn't posted anything else I was then banned for a week with no reason given.
Legion  +   1148d ago
@T3MPL3TON

Maybe not the point, but you do realize that saying you are mixed (Black and White) did not actually answer the question of Nationality? Might have just been an ignorance ban??
Prcko  +   1155d ago
Good job jaffe
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WitWolfy  +   1154d ago
Its always funny how blacks/African Americans always use the "race card" when someone disses their life style. Even here in South Africa we hear about apartheid on a daily basis like it end last year, IT DRIVES ME CRAZY always acting like the victims... GET OVER IT!

If the guy dont like rap. HE DONT LIKE RAP! God make your own Ghetto TM if it pisses you off that much
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news4geeks  +   1155d ago
apparently the guy claiming to have wrote it then commented:

"Yay that was me. Not a huge fan of rap. It was a mean comment agains African amerians but it was a joke that people at TMA and aparentley the maker of my favorite game series can't understand. I do how ever like older hip hop. Don't call me a racist though becuase I'm not, and if think I am well, I guess I have to tell the creator of my favorite game to F-off. Though if you could understand that it was a joke and realize you tweat got me into pointless arguments at TMA i'll definitely over look this and still respect you."

This guy is an idiot. He may not truly be racist but what he said definitely is racist and didn't come across as a lighthearted joke.
KING85  +   1155d ago
To make that comment and then say I am not racist is this guy simply being dilusional. If you don't agree I does not belong on the soundtrack that is all well and good. This guy is however so racist he can't even realize it. A joke. I guess many may not share his warped sense of humor.
Dlacy13g  +   1154d ago
This guy was a total Douche bag. "Don't call me a racist though because I am not" See that is the problem with most people these days that make racist comments... They don't think they are being racist because they only make comments or just talk that way to friends about others of a different race. News flash to all the ignorant individuals like this person. If you think that way, even if you don't publically say it, you are at your core a racist. And for this idiot...if you are going to put up in a public forum that kind of BS... you most certainly are a racist.

Lastly, racism is a disease born from lack of education. If you are a racist you are sick... you could be cured through learning but sadly most will die inside from it.
BX81  +   1154d ago
Hmm
Bravo sir! People like him think it's ok to be a dumb ass because they hang around with other dumbasses. Perfect example I have 4 people I play call of duty with and they're pretty decent guys but this one thing really bothers me. The other day we're playing black ops and they were talking about some guy and they kept reffering to him as a "nig". WTF is that? I always make a comment to them about it and just zone them out.
jimmywolf  +   1154d ago
@Dlacy13g i don't agree with him but way you think it is elitism , if you hate someone your a racist who slowly die inside? right, the whole world hates in one form or another, everyone can an will be racist at some point in time. hating those that hate, does not make your the lesser evil, it just breeds more hate
Dlacy13g  +   1154d ago
@jimmywolf... I never said if you hate someone you are a racist. I fully understand someone can hate another individual and have justified reasons for the hate. But to hate all people of a race for no other reason than their race is racist and through my eyes wrong.

I do agree with you that at some point most everyone (there are always exceptions) will harbor some kind of racist thought or feeling of anger. It is through education and understanding that we realize those thoughts are miss-guided. I don't hate racists, I just feel sorry for them that they have such an uninformed view of life and society.
No Way  +   1154d ago
@Dlacy13g -
What's funny to me about people and racism, is my thought about it.
Parents who are racist tend to raise there kids to be the same; racist.
Though, all that is doing, hypothetically, is raising your kids to be hated.
Because, if you are racist, you will hate people (for no logical reason).
Therefore, hating a whole race for a stupid reason, makes people hate you.

At least, that's the way I look at it, when I see parents 'teach' their kids.
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CaptainMarvelQ8  +   1155d ago
i don't care how racist the comment is because he is absolutely right. Twisted Metal is all about hard action and rap doesn't fit it at all.
Tazz1992  +   1155d ago
Right because there was never any rap songs in the old twisted metal games... I can name cypress hill instantly as having a rap song in the game.
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pixelsword  +   1154d ago
penguin:

rap isn't race oriented.

I though 4Chan was bad...
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KING85  +   1154d ago
I understand what you are saying, but I believe there is a more important matter at hand than what music is going into Twisted Metal. As Dlacy13g said, "racism is a disease born from lack of education".
zeal0us  +   1155d ago
sometimes ignorance can be bliss.
Sevir04  +   1154d ago
That's the case for a lot of people here on N4G!
fei-hung  +   1155d ago
You get idiots and then you get the racists who lack logic, intelligence and education on the world and people who reside within it.

Bottomline, why does everyone seem to complain about everything these days? no one seems to be happy since everyone is biatching or moaning about something or another. Graphics are too good, they are too bad. Too much story, too little story. Too much gore, not enough gore. Too easy, too hard. Too linear, too big. Not enough choice, too many choices. Too much the same, too much to different... etc etc etc

madness I tell you madness!
Silly gameAr  +   1155d ago
It's always fun to read how ignorant some people in the world can be. Always gives me a chuckle.
Calm Down Sunshine  +   1155d ago
"Not to be racist but I don't want to here blacks rap about there bitches and hoes at all. Nor do I want them playing TM."

Lol'd, good old internet..
theIMP  +   1155d ago | Well said
I know right? I remember the good old' days when you had to say stuff to someone’s face. I was born and raised down here in the south and you want to know what really turned me away from being a racist growing up? It was the hypocrisy and the fact was, most racist I knew were scared bitches. They would be all ”N-word this” and “Those stupid N-word that”, until we were around some actual black guys, then they flipped to "Oh I'm not Racist", and just acted all scared. I also had my step mom raise us not to be that way, but seeing these half-ass racist with their tails between their legs every time a black guy would show up really hit the point home. I also fell in love with a half Filipino girl, and now we’ve been together for 14 years and are married with 2 kids. How could I be racist against just certain race’s? That’s just more hypocrisy. I treat people how they treat me no matter what color they are. I have some black friends that call me brother, and some ex-white friends that hate me for it. I just think we’re all god’s children and life is just too short to hate all the time, especially just for the color of the skin someone was born with.
04soldier  +   1155d ago
well said bubs up..
KwietStorm  +   1154d ago
Ok, this is going to be the one time I say this and genuinely mean it: Cool story, bro.
dafada  +   1154d ago
who in gods name would disagree with your comment? wooooow
KING85  +   1154d ago
Simple but eloquently said.
PHIBALNATION  +   1154d ago
theIMP, thats with any race, and you wanna know why racism will never leave, because it's ok for blacks to have the NAACP and push, but if any other race has it, it's racism, so don't tell me about racism, if any race is on the internet being racist, when they meet the race face to face it's different. You seem to think it's just white's, which what you said is racist in itself. I have no problems with Filipino, it's blacks that are the racists.
FlashXIII  +   1155d ago
Tbh while his way of going about complaining was totally and utterly uncalled for, his point is valid. Jay Z does not belong in a twisted metal game.
DanteKnightsTemplar  +   1155d ago
Jay Z sucks. But that guy is a racist douche. I personally..dont want jay z on the list.
LeoDDestroyer  +   1155d ago
What is wrong with Jay Z songs in twisted metal. Your driving around killing people for crying out loud. How does it not match he rap about killing while your killing.
PirosThe4th  +   1155d ago
for me... Twisted Metal was always with Metal... Hard rock and stuff... not rap... well but it depends on the songs to be honest... they not gonna pump some shit songs that not even fit...
jay z is a good rapper... if they put some of the good old songs with linkin park... then it would be win! xd
frostypants  +   1155d ago
I kinda feel like it they're going to put rap in the game, that old school NWA would be more suitable. Or how about some Body Count/Ice-T?

Jay Z seems a bit mellow for TM, I feel, but we'll see.
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BX81  +   1154d ago
Hmm
Or Natural Born Killa with Cube,Pac and Mac!
wenaldy  +   1154d ago
NWA, Ice-T, Tupac, Slick Rick, Dr. Dre, the Roots.. I'm all for old skool..
KwietStorm  +   1154d ago
Jay-Z isn't known for rapping about killing people. There are a lot of misconceptions and stereotypes about rap and what "fits" the game, and people are blatantly showing their ass and lack of knowledge when they say an entire genre of music or artists have no place in the game.
Dlacy13g  +   1154d ago
@LeoDDestroyer... I think people just associate the title Twisted Metal with Metal music. Personally I think you could play any music you wanted that has an edge/anger to it and it will fit in the game.
ElementX  +   1155d ago
Well, I wouldn't call him racist, however to some the portrayal of women in black rap and hip/hop is offensive. I know many people who dislike hip hop for that very reason, also the extensive use of the "N" word. The gangsta mentality of mainstream hip hop artists is over-the-top and playing into racial stereotypes. I think these "artists" try to find common ground with the urban thugs but they're just feeding the flames.

Give me some motown music over hip hop any day! There are some awesome, timeless songs by black artists, but I don't consider hip hop songs to be among them.
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beavis4play  +   1155d ago
hells, yea! motown for the win!! especially the early days when Mtown was just getting started.
Sharingan_no_Kakashi  +   1155d ago
Well said.

It's pretty hard to find mainstream rap that isnt full of swearing, degrading ppl, and just all around negative. Most rap I listen to is from ppl selling their stuff on the corner and I only get it if it's clean. Or mostly clean.
theIMP  +   1155d ago
It's for this reason I always loved Outkast (mostly the early stuff). They always keep it real, but also keep it more positive than negative. That and I only like super original artist, and no one sounds or acts like ol' Outkast.
WitWolfy  +   1154d ago
You have to listen to Chronic Future my friend, Best rock rap you'll ever hear
beavis4play  +   1153d ago
big agree on that! it may not be "cool".....but i feel the same way.
radphil  +   1155d ago
@ElementX

Check out the MadWorld OST. I'm not a huge fan of rap, but that soundtrack is enjoyable to be honest.
XabiDaChosenOne  +   1155d ago
I will admit, I am a rap/hiphop hardcore fan and the mainstream crap that is playing on the radio today is and utter disgrace. Just pure filth.
@ElementX also the extensive use of the "N" word.
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Learn!
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Will-UK  +   1155d ago
"portrayal of women in black rap and hip/hop is offensive." that is a generalisation of rap and what is "black rap" theirs only rap people complain yet their are conscious rappers who rap about positive things yet go unheard instead of generalising why dont you search for positive rap that is like me saying all heavy metal and rock is angry depressed music without bothering to check out different artists.
Check Out http://www.consciousrap.co....
XabiDaChosenOne  +   1154d ago
Exactly.
iceman06  +   1154d ago
I hesitate to call anybody a racist. However, you can't deny that his comments smacked of racism. As for rap music, unfortunately rap music has turned toward the materialist and misogynistic excuse for music that we hear now. It wasn't ALWAYS about that. Just as rock was not always about the drug and alcohol induced misogynistic romps glorified by the bands of the 80's. Bottom line is that record labels, execs, and to that extent artists have tarnished music in general.
As for Motown, I'm all in. That music is timeless. Some of the best music ever created came from that era. As for hip hop, there ARE timeless classics from that genre as well. You just have to reach back in the crates to find them.
na2ru1  +   1155d ago
Out of all the rappers why Jay Z? I hate his voice. All I hear is "yapidy blap blap bow wow" from him. Can't there just be instrumentals of there own music?
WhiteLightning  +   1155d ago
I really thought something along the lines of System of a Down would of fitted better....just saying
WitWolfy  +   1154d ago
Well it isn't called Twisted METAL for nothing.. If it was called Twisted Various artist, then I would've obliged lol
FearNoAngel  +   1155d ago
illuminati sucks, take Jay-Z off.
BabyTownFrolics  +   1155d ago
listen to the Grey Album

Jay Z's Black Album mashed up with the Beatles White Album

created by Danger Mouse

http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...
palaeomerus  +   1155d ago
Why the hell is Jaffe making this guy famous? Does he have nothing better to do than fight with his fans even if they are douche-burgers with the mentality of a semi-rowdy 13 year old? You're supposed to punch up not down. You IGNORE stupid shit from people who aren't worth a response instead of feeding them like a grass fire on a windy day.
shadyiswin  +   1155d ago
maybe you guys should listen to jay-z cause out of his 500+ song less than 10 or maybe even 5 are about killing people,more about his neighborhood where he grew up and how his life has changed over time. Then again why would anyone be all sensitve over rap music? this isn't a game for kids and will have lots of killing in it and the other music in it will rest assured be 10x as graphic as anything jay-z has recorded,im sure it wont have a hip hoop beat to it keeping with the musical tone of the game it will probably be one of songs on a rock type beat which should sound interesting,no one would complaing if rage agaist the machine was on it so stfu,i loved twisted metal 2,i doubt this will be the game to make me get a ps3,not till they're are $199,im more than pleased with my xbox atm.
FlashXIII  +   1155d ago
That's probably because RATM are actually a metal band.
captain-obvious  +   1155d ago
respect to the already respected David jaffe
for standing up for this douche and exposing him so maybe he feels ashamed of him self
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death2smoochie  +   1155d ago
He will tweet back and say the ever famous sentence that ALL racists use when they are exposed for their full motion retardation:

"Bu..BUT...I am not RACIST AT ALL!!! I have many "****" friends!
(put in Black or Jewish or Middle Eastern or Asian or any other ethnic group in that blank space)
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Kon  +   1155d ago
I hate Jaffe. But i like TM and Jay-Z.
CrimsonSaber  +   1155d ago
This isnt racist. wtf . the guys saying he doesnt want rap when hes blowing the F* Outta of people online. I can relate i dont want No F*n Blake Shelton country Shi* if im out blasting away at somebody...so do everyone a favor ... Post news not propagand Bs. it doesnt do any good for gaming.
quietlygamingaway  +   1154d ago
if you say anything against a certain race

you will be vilified
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Dlacy13g  +   1154d ago
Why would you ever feel the need to say anything against a certain race to begin with. If you have a beef against a certain person...fine go for it, air it out. But to lump all people of a certain race (white, black, asian...you name it) and make a comment against them is in and of itself a racist move. Skin color does not define a person.
Dlacy13g  +   1154d ago
@CrimsonSaber... there is nothing wrong with him saying he doesn't want to hear rap music in a TM game. But saying "I dont want to hear about blacks rapping..." and his comment "I bet theres a black guy on his team that needs pleasing" Thats just straight up racist bullshit.
CrimsonSaber  +   1155d ago
And to you Jaffe. My god your a genius at marketing your games but your a F*N idiot at the same time... go take the I.D. 10 test ( ps guys if you dont know what an I.D.1.0.Test is well then there ya go)
SockMaster  +   1155d ago
I think every game needs a bit of megadeth in it, but seriously racism aside I would love some Big 4 on the game!
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maxmill  +   1155d ago
rap>screaming
quietlygamingaway  +   1154d ago
music > criminal nursery rhymes
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maxmill  +   1154d ago
lyrical ability>Speds strumming chords
DigitalRaptor  +   1152d ago
@ maxmill
What the hell have you been smoking all your life? How is lyrical ability better than actual music?

Music >>>>>> lyrics alone

Lyrics are the crutch of the rap community. The good thing about other types of music is that you can have both great musical sound and great lyrics.
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DevilishSix  +   1154d ago
So basicly, a jerk makes a comment then another jerk responds. Thats right I said it, Jaffe was one big jerk before this happened. Nothing to see here.
quietlygamingaway  +   1154d ago
Lame
Jaffe is a PC cry baby

rap has no business is a TM game

should be metal

black dahlia, pantera, soulfly, sepultura
mastiffchild  +   1154d ago
Yeah, and the game's CREATOR has less idea what fits on his game than you do? Srsly?

I'm no massive fan of either Hip Hop(not as stands today anyway)or trad Rock and Metal but I'm willing to assume that a film maker and/or a game director know what "feels" right when matching sound to their images. As a songwriter and musician I've often been pleasantly amazed at what others have found as uses for things I either created myself or merely sang or performed on. Honestly, you must allow creative people to use whatever tool they see fit for their own projects and only pass personal judgement AFTER seeing the final product of their processes-You and I might find Jay-Z an odd choice and out of keeping for TM but Jaffe knows his monster better than we do and if he thinks it's right then it prolly is.
SuperStrokey1123  +   1154d ago
yeah i think the creator of TM knows a bit more about what belongs in it than you do...
TGM  +   1154d ago
Developer uses Twitter; breaking news!
Der_Kommandant  +   1154d ago
RAP in Twisted Metal?

http://i52.tinypic.com/2m6q...
slugboss  +   1154d ago
I thought there was a valid point in it too. But apparently more people are interested in calling this dude racist, than playing the game...
baker_boi  +   1154d ago
What's the valid point about Rap not being in a game about blowing people up with rockets and bombs, then running them over?

Oh, because why want to take the title of the game as a pun, "Twisted Metal", "Heavy Metal" right? Bitch please.

You know there are black characters in the game right? So what if they don't want to listen to no heavy metal? Should they just be striken from the game?

Matter of fact, the dude who made the comment said he didnt even want my black ass playin the game, then said he was jokin. That aint no damn joke.

The world is just gonna have to get used to black people moving on from old media tropes. Blues, Juke, Jazz, Swing, Rock n Roll, Funk, Punk, all that's old to us now. Doesn't mean it's not any good, we just moved on.

It's about that time for Hip-Hop now. Yall can have that when we done. Start playin a guitar in that genre next. lol

Yall can call it Satan-Hop or somethin.
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