gamrReview writes:
"With the diversions – side quests and decent minigames – of the first game intact, and a little more time spent, this could have been a truly incredible RPG, to blow all others out of the water. It’s a testament to the game that even what is left is so enjoyable. As it stands, it’s a great experience and a solid RPG, but it could have been so much more. "
CD Projekt Red is confident in the transition from its in-house Red Engine to Unreal Engine 5 for the next Witcher game.
My main concern with UE5, is that some developers have resorted to very low resolutions in order to enable the advanced feature set of this engine and sustain the frame rate.
In open world games, especially those with excellent graphics, we cant realistically expect 60fps from consoles (PS5 pro set aside as we do not know exactly how performant it will be) without huge compromises.
Thus the new Witcher game will probably require more powerful consoles to experience it the way the developers intended and in that sense, it reminds me of Cyberpunk situation.
It was released in current gen systems albeit in dire state (even PS4 Pro and Xbox One X suffered) requiring next generation consoles to achieve a desirable (and still not ideal) result.
My thoughts exactly. This is definitely a PC engine first and foremost, given the compromises required on consoles. Tekken 8 is a **fighting game** on UE5 and, even without Nanite and Lumen, needs to be upscaled to 4K to run at a solid 60fps. The engine straight up dog walks current console hardware. I don't see this getting much better on a PS5 Pro either.
I don't see this game releasing this generation. If it wasn't Sony owned, I think Decima 2.0 would be an excellent engine for this game.
I am quietly confident that they are going to make one hell of a jaw dropping witcher considering what they achieved with cyberpunk, i reckon they will bring a new level of what can be expected from ue5 BUT i reckon it will be a ps6/rtx 5090 game.
The next Witcher game will still be an RPG but players can expect new things as CD Projekt Red want to push boundaries and discover new ways of storytelling.
They were different because they went from being a port studio with there last port being the god awful saints row 2 pc port to making the witcher one.
The first witcher was there first actual game with there own engine the 3rd one showed there years of experience/in house engine improvements.
This witcher game has very very few of the original people behind it and its using unreal engine like so many other games.
The big elephant in the room is that they are now proudly esg supports and go to a panel of esg reps to approve there games now.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
The is cdpr 2020's not the 2010's cdpr we used to know.
https://www.gamesradar.com/...
Take the blood/sex/nudity/adult humor/combat system/rpg mechanics/writing/story charecters/art/design and there passion/drive from the first 3 games throw it in the fucking trash there now you got what they have right now for the witcher 4.
New engine new writing team new everything even esg leadership so yeah "Witcher 4 will be different from Witcher 3"
Didn't know that, disgusting, so i'm going from day 1 purchase to wait and see until i know how bad this gets.
I'll say that cyberpunk 2077 is a great game. Witcher 1 is my favourite game in the series with the 3rd being my least favourite.
We'll see how the new team does.
@risenshine
Never buy day1 regardless of studio
Uggh thanks for pointing out. Didn't realize they sold out to the esg crowd. Too bad, I thought they were one of the few untouched "gamer" developer. Poland was one of the last non-woke countries left but appears they too have caved to the ESG money.
It’s common for people to shit on games before they come out. We haven’t even seen anything of Witcher 4. It could be great it could be mediocre etc. I’m not going to prejudge just because the company has interests in other areas. I only care if the Witcher 4 is good or not.
@jzn
I think you need to look at the games dei/esg have been involved in/ help fund like sr/ss
True but anyone that thinks witcher 3 2.0 combat is bad would never get past the first section of witcher one.
I felt 3 was ok took a long for it to click but I tried 2 and I found combat controls to be my biggest barrier to actually enjoying it was about 50 times clunkier than 3
I thought the weakest point was the copious amount of dialog. Sometimes less is more. I remember clicking through just to get to the objective.
I loved it despite the combat so if they can get that right it'll be an incredible game. The other thing I wasn't fond of was being deluged with loot, quality over quantity for me.
Can someone tell me what they didn’t like about the combat? Was it the pace or something? Because I didn’t have any problem with the combat once I realized it wasn’t a button mashing type of combat…
I honestly like to know.
Weightless, floaty, without impact and generally unsatisfying.
Also on the hardest difficulty you could literally get one shotted by a dwarf with a wooden club despite max gear so there was a hell of a lot of dodging and rolling, as in almost constantly, which didn't add to the fun.
@Nacho: I haven’t played on the hardest difficulty truth be told so I can’t comment on that part.
My build however was a dual wield/aard sign build; knock back enemies and hit them hard + ranged got deflected. I did dodge and roll a lot anyway with this build so it didn’t really bother me, so yeah, fun for me, not for you I guess.
Thx for sharing your thoughts tho.
I would say that, for me, it was the silly cutscenes in the middle of boss fights that didn't match the fight itself.
Example: I mastered the combat early. In one boss fight, I was untouched, flawless. Then a cutscene shows me barely beating the boss toe to toe.
Ciri vs 3 witches. I took down the one from the cutscene first. She's dead. I blink away. Fight, defeat the other two. And blink to the entrance before the cutscene triggered. Suddenly, I'm in the middle of everything with a crone who has long since been defeated and, instead of blinking away, Ciri becomes the dumbest character ever, and stoops to let the very precious token dangle in front of the crone.
Both of those are narrative breaking.
It’s the best of the series. Of course it could improve but at least it’s not Elder Scrolls combat which hasn’t changed since ever.
Bethesda seems like a studio that is "stuck in the same spot". Development wise. Glad CDPR are wary of that element in game design.
They have actually declined from all the systems they had in Morrowind. Acrobatics Athletics is gone. Spells are simpler. Combat hasn’t changed at all. They added a strip of sprint button and you only have enough stamina to run for 10 seconds but you can kill dragons and powerful beings. I could go on but yeah they are stuck in reverse
That is on your mobile device they copied pokemon go few years back
https://www.thewitcher.com/...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
It was such a flop they removed the videos and removed the link to that article but its still on there servers.
Danish from eXputer: "The Witcher's upcoming sequel needs to overhaul the series' combat system if it wants to make a big splash among gamers."
after what we see ( 2015 - 2024 ) in dark souls 3, blood borne , sekiro , dragon's dogma 2 , rise of the Ronin combat they should really careful and bring very good combat in Witcher 4 this time
Absolutely love this game, but it definitely has some problems.
8.7 is still good, but I was hoping for a 9 or higher. That's a bit disappointing.
Gonna be the first game I install on my new rig. The outlined concerns don't sound like something that would bother me, so I'll probably enjoy this more than the reviewer did.
Great, albeit LONG!, review.
Yep, I'm getting this.