Lionhead boss and newly-crowned holder of a BAFTA Fellowship Peter Molyneux has admitted making game features up on the spot to stop bored journalists falling asleep during interviews.
Over-promissing is an understatement. I don't believe he ment any harm however, he seems like a genuinely nice person. @Warprincess116 "No he not. When he lie and say this is gone to be in my game and there a feature in my game that gone to change games forever. That called false advertisement. Im surprised no-one didn't sue him yet." To bad there isn't a google translate from bad English - English.
No he not. When he lie and say this is gone to be in my game and there a feature in my game that gone to change games forever. That called false advertisement. Im surprised no-one didn't sue him yet.
I think he just gets too excited and too overly passionate for his games and says off the wall things he knows he can't come up with. I appreciate the visions, but just watch what you say because people, including myself, really believe you sometimes.
WarPrincess you sound like an 11 year old.
.... but not listening to the fans, and focussing on the wrong stuff! Fans said they wanted more challenging gameplay, yet it was only made easier. Fans said they wanted a longer and more epic story, yet Fable 3 was pretty damn short (also because it was way too easy), etc etc. Molyneux is so focussed on bringing us random original small stuff, that he forgets the basics needed for a great game are still gameplay, challenge, story, etc etc.
well you still do that peter i mean look at this http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Don't worry Pete... I lost faith in you a long time ago! @Warprincess... I have always told people the best way to write is to type it how you say it! But you should avoid that! I know what you mean when you say "Gone", but seeing it in print just makes it look bad. Just go ahead and write "Going" please!
He's said THE EXACT same thing in the past lol He's a one man hype machine and those commenting on here about how he's so cutely innocent, over excited and doesn't really know how to curb his excited statements are just suckers that fall for his BS over and over again. If I can find the past articles I'll post them but I know he's said the exact same words in the past. lol I mean I really thought after the Milo thing that it was sure banker people would catch on to this man's schtick but no, people still fall for his BS marketing hype. Come on, you don't remember him telling everyone Milo is real and is the first showing of what we'll be seeing Kinect do? Now go look about at that E3 "demo" and compare it to what you see now on Kinect gaming and ask yourself, how many times do I need to be bold-faced lied to before I see the next lie?
Where's Milo and Kate? lol
As nonsensical as this comment is I agree. A drug developer couldn't come out and say their drug cured cancer when it didn't, the head of coca cola couldn't turn around and say their new brand of coke lowers blood pressure when it doesn't. What he's doing may have no malicious intent but it's still at the core extrememly damaging because people often buy games based on the hype that is generated from journalism and interviews. At the very core of what he's doing lies the foundations for false advertising and it's not a one off either. It's not like GSC gameworld who promised the freakin' world in stalker SoC, got nailed by deadlines, had to cut half the features, but promptly STFU when it came to Clear skies and CoP. Peter Molyneux has done this for EVERY SINGLE GAME he has ever made.
fucking lol'd Warprincess116 is a god damn winner.
Rofl I remember being a young teen before I had a PS2 or other system of that gen and reading all the promises for Fable such as an aging character with full details for each development of age and all kinds of crazy shat. I was convinced it was going to be the end all to all games then Fable finally came out and didn't have like 90% of what was said it would have xD
agree smoke. i think he has so many ideas running through his head he just cant keep his ideas to himself. he says these things( to the wrong people ) who then go and post on every website going. i think he's a decent guy. just has an imagination of a 10 year old.
I am skeptical of this apology because I have an overdeveloped and paranoid sence of irony. Is he really this sorry, or is this just something he is saying to get us excited about his sense of remorse?
If you don't listen to the hype, Fable games are solid quality games. Fable II was really fun and different, but it was short for an "RPG". To me, Fable games are more RPG/Adventure games because of its linearity. Still, I enjoy them. They get alot more bashing than I think they should.
Fable 2 was more of a polygamy simulator than an RPG...
Whats with the disagrees? Am I really the only one who went around and put a wife in every available property??? To the point that I had to spend all of my time going house to house to have sex with all of my wives to keep them happy, to the point of being unable to finish the game???
That's what RPGs should be all about: let you do what you want, and not force you through a tight design. Freedom. It just seems that in your case, this freedom took it toll. With great sex comes great responsibility. (at least he didn't put mothers-in-law in the game. Imagine having to deal with a multiple of those...)
Fable games are solid??? LOL! Only Fable: Lost Chapters was a decent game! Fable 2 was mediocre, but Fable 3 was one of the most disappointing games I've ever played, it is failing so hard! Watch the Angry Joe's video on 32 reasons why Fable 3 sucks!
Apology not accepted.
why are you not accepting his apology when you have never even played one of his games. stop trolling.
At least until he talks up a game, then delivers on all points you mean. No point in holding a grudge against him once he delivers. Its when he doesn't and the fanboys try to defend him with Populous and the like that chaffs me. @xbox-threesixty: I played Populous. Dealt with many a fanboy proclaiming Fable the new Final Fantasy. Such gives anyone who's been on a gaming forum the right to bitch because of the man's over-statements. Especially when they've been held up as gospel.
So you're saying that the man past failures shouldn't be forgiven in light of future successes? Edit: You people really make no sense.
The new Final Fantasy? Someone actually said that!? Fable is not the best game I've played, but it's not that bad....
I actually re-read some of the previews for the original Fable recently. Holy crap what he said that game was going to be would STILL be absolutely, astonishingly awesome and unprecedented in scope and quality. He really overshot the moon on that one. I can't believe any of us ever actually thought the game could be that...
yeah, sorry we believed it again
This. We should all be used to Molyneux by now. The problem is, his promises sound so bloody good that we always give him another chance.
wow, fable was still a solid game though.
Peter, you always over promise, always.
its ok man we are use to it by now.
its ok i wasnt expecting anything good anyway lol
Peter isnt a bad guy. Sure he over estimates his games potinetal but he is just a good buisness man. The man can market a fucking used towel to anyone. It's all cool Peter, just remember....I want the old you.
I don't think Fable III was over hyped at all, I barely heard any hype in comparison to Fable II's "Five Innovations" campaign Molyneux held. I liked Fable III though since it fixed the issues with the previous Fable titles and the co-op was pretty fun too, your partner actually felt connected this time. What I didn't like however was the ending which felt somewhat rushed. There were some really powerful/emotional moments in that game though IMO.
It's okay, but just don't overhype your games too much, Peter. If you actually DO have that feature implemented, not one that you haven't put in yet, then go ahead and tell us how awesome it is. But don't go on promising something that we won't get. Wait, why am I typing this out like he's gonna look on N4G and read this?
At least he finally admitted it.
he's always said he tends to overpromise though.
Silly Lionhead, when will you ever learn?
I for one accept your apology. Now can you deliver a Fable 4 that is not over promised?
Amen! But not yet, take some time, look over what you did wrong with Fable 3 and Fable 2, and get back to us with a polished, balanced, HARDER RPG/Action-Adventure hybrid and I'll be there Day ONE.
I'm glad he dreams big, it's those things that grow the industry. I mean why single him out? the Fable series has been amazing IMHO, I've enjoyed all three. Looking at it from another standpoint, remember the PS3's early promises? I mean 4-D graphics, Backwards compatibility, 8 USB ports, Linux support ect.... But to dream is fine and I'm glad he made promises and at least attempted those things.
I expected this to end with him going "But we're making Fable IV and it's going to be better than Jesus!"
didn't do the beatles any harm did it. :)
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * That's f*cking hilarious. Wasn't he one of Time magazines' "most important people" last year? Yes he was... http://www.destructoid.com/... Just goes to show FLUFF goes along way. Again f*cking hilarious. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
it's just antagonizing now. i ca appreciate him getting excited about his games, but when was the last time he released a game and didn't end up apologizing for over hyping too much. just make the games and simmer down, we like them we really do. edit: i also don't like the fact the he said IF I'VE OVER PROMISED. if peter? really.
As the saying goes "Under promise, over deliver".
There's a difference between over promising and straight up telling lies.
He is a blow hard just like most of the people on Microsoft's side.They make a big fuss about a game, hype it to high heaven and when you buy it and it sells millions, then suddenly comes the apologizes, the admitting it wasn't very good and the blogs taking about the promises that were made that weren't fulfilled. They talk too much, just like Cliffy.I can listen to anyone on the other systems talk even if it's hype but Microsoft's cronies are insufferable.They don't know when to quit talking. I wish he would stop pretending that he is any better then the people who over hype games to make money.Why not apologize before the game comes out if you are so saintly?
i hope he can bring us that huge hit one day since its been promised many times.
I say this time and time again but I personally think Peter is one of the only visionaries in the gaming business. By that I mean not the kind of company pushing tech to the limits but rather he imagines the kind of experiences games could be in the future and the kind of interaction they could have instead of being stuck in this slump of generic games and hordes of FPS titles. I don't care whether people hate Fable, you can't really deny they are pretty unique feeling games and I can't think of any other game that plays the same as it. The other thing I would say is that he does get over excited about things but that's passion, and something the industry needs. Haters spam your disagrees....
Not accepted, too late. Should of happend at Fable 1.
i'd rather see more developers like him who try to do too much then every game developer going down the annual identikit little more than roster update route. this industry would have stagnated long ago without people like him.
"Sorry if I've over-Promised..... but not person if perfect. Except me." *fixed*
I don't see why people are defending him he promised so much and delivered NOTHING. at least next time don't bullshit us about your games
Delivered "nothing"? Perhaps you should play his games and compare what he promised and what was implemented. While it may not have been fully realized, to say he delivers nothing at all is a flat out lie.
Quit yapping Peter and make good games without so many words let the games speak for themselves
He needs to stop apologizing. He has not done it in a while, and he is one of the best legends in the industry. No reason to apologize for that.
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