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European customs ordered to seize PlayStation shipments in legal dispute

LG granted preliminary injunction against Sony; only 'two to three weeks' worth of stock' in the channel

Shipments of PS3 consoles have been seized by European customs officers as an LG injunction against Blu-ray technology seeks to block Sony products from sale, according to a report in The Guardian this afternoon.

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Raendom4805d ago

I remember seeing this on techspy a few months back: http://cdn.mashable.com/wp-...

It's pretty funny, so much suing!

WildArmed4805d ago

Lol, the legal team has to be working on someting no?
We don't want them to not be earning their $$ xD

zootang4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

This just makes me not want to buy LG products. Not that I ever did before.

Dante1124805d ago

10 day ban, huh. Sony will have to negotiate with LG if they want it lifted.

zootang4805d ago

Also anyone know of the actual infringements?

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rockleex4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

Wait, whatever happened to Sony's case against LG?

Were LG phones temporarily seized like this also?

StbI9904805d ago Show
paintsville4805d ago

Wow. I didn't see that coming. But if Sony's really infringing on LG's patents then I don't blame them.
This could be trouble for Sony.

king dong4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

LG have just become the most hated company on n4g!! even more so than activision..

sharpen you pitch-forks folks, sound the bugle.... sony needs you more than ever

edit below...lol what do you think sony is just going to let them disappear?? expect a 100 agrees and a bubble though

AzaziL4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

Well sony is rumored to be making a hackproof PS3 to release this summer, so I can actually see sony just letting it happen to get rid of all the hackable PS3s. The new PS3s probably don't have parts that infringe on LGs copyrights so it'll all work out for them.

Undeadwolfy4805d ago

@Raendom, in that image of "Who's Suing Whom" there needs to be an arrow from Sony suing LG and Geohot lol. But ya as a commenter wrote below, if you are on a gaming site such as N4G then you support gaming meaning you really should support Sony and not LG. :\

kesvalk4805d ago

@AzaziL

wow, i can't believe comments can get this stupid...

Legion4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

@zootang

Here is a link to the U.S. complaint filed on 4 Feb 2011. I am pretty confident that the EU complaint runs under similar form.

http://www.itcblog.com/wp-c...

Also, in the claim it also looks like they are seeking to make sure that Sony will no longer be able to service or store any PS3s that are currently on the market. (at least in the U.S. claim) Ouch...

AzaziL4804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

Great input, got anything better to say?

I only said what I said because of the new PS3 SKU rumors and the recent PS3 price drop. Sony probably would prefer to have the hackable PS3s removed from the market once a hackproof PS3 is available.

Whether that happens through a fire sale or letting LG seize their shipments if the injunction is extended , who knows.

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rrw4805d ago

actually if Sony can make just what Nintendo did which creating demand and hype because of shortage. this would be interesting

Ddouble4805d ago

Yea, I was thinking the same thing and this will definitely be in the papers so free advertising as well.

B1663r4805d ago

From the article:

"Alternatively, the Korean company could apply for a court order to get the consoles destroyed"

So not only are they gonna sieze those bad boys, but they are also gonna put them all in the shredder.

badz1494805d ago

they will need a larger blender for THAT lol!

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

p/s: nothing against the iPad though!

FailOverHero4805d ago

"If it infringes on the patents then by all means Sony should cough up and pay any fees due to LG. Besides, it's not as if Sony wouldn't do the same if it was the other way around."...oh wait, they already did. Did anyone here call them(sony) names when they were doing it? Of course not, SONY can do no wrong right? Sony is always right. Always! Sony can't ever be wrong, EVER! Not even if there's a fire!

DJMarty4805d ago

Both LG & Sony are part of the Blu-ray Group as are other electronic makers. You would assume that any Blu-ray patents held would be shared.

StbI9904805d ago

They cannot do wrong mate, sony is our god, they provided me with my ps1 and ps2 and ps3, SCREW LG who didn;t bring us gamer NATING.

TacoTaru4805d ago

I guess Sony has been pirating LG's stuff.

MrBeatdown4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

Do you ever have anything better to contribute than these lame attacks on PS3 fanboys?

You try to pretend you're so much better, but your comments do nothing but add to the problem.

Legion4805d ago

@ DJMARTY

It appears it is the playback portion of the Blu ray player that is being addressed here. Related to how the data is read and interpreted compared to patents that LG owns out right within EU and U.S. at least.

lexington4804d ago

First Sony copies xbox live with psn, then sony copies achievements with tropies, then sony copies wii with move, now sony is caught coping yet another company, LG. When are they going to have an original idea?

DragonKnight4804d ago

@lexington: first Microsoft copies Dreamcast Online with Live, then Microsoft copies already present in-game achievements with their own version, then Microsoft copies EyeToy with Kinect. can't Microsoft ever have an original idea?

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lelo2play4805d ago

LOL... it wasn't Microsoft who paid for Geohot's legal fees, it was LG.

Undeadwolfy4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

lol.

@shooterexpert, I have a 37" Sony Bravia Motionflow. Tis epic, no ghosting. Love the quality and 3 year guarantee. =D

shooterexpert4805d ago

lol Sony should have never sued LG. Lg makes amazing tvs though, I love my 55 inch LG led. Refresh rate is 2.4 ms super fast so no ghosting what so ever.

Paybacks a bitch huh lol.

Trroy4804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

You know that the newest LCD screen tech, which allows ultra fast response times, was created and patented by Sony, right? LG probably pays a fair amount to Sony to make the screens for TVs like yours -- they may even purchase the screens from Sony and Samsung, which share screen manufacturing facilities in South Korea (where LG is located), as I recall.

Oh the irony.

Vherostar4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

Well all that will happen from this is LG will stop the sale of PS3 for 10 days. Sony gets a TON of free advertising. Everybody is a winner as LG couldn't possibly beat Sony in court and I don't think they really want to. This is all about respect more than anything from Sony and them 10 days gets them just that. As This will eventually stop stop ALL Blu-ray players including LG blu-ray players too.

zeddy4805d ago

it will especialy be annoying if this affects the ngp release date, thanks LG.

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Cherchez La Ghost4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

How?! Look what Sony did to them first. Sony said to the US trade commission that LG used patent tech for LG phones. It was predicted in December 2010 LG would strike back. You start a fight, you finish it.

LoL!! Funny I got disagrees. "Google it" and see if I'm lying.

Da One4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

Damn right ghost you start it, you finish.... bring a gun to a knife fight, a knife to a fist, you wanna win, it's by any means necessary. If they didn't Sony should've expected the retaliation.

Darth_Bane794805d ago

You are not lying, but what you are stating does show that LG IS butthurt, because of what Sony did to them.. you get it?

Billy_Dee_Williams4805d ago

The fact that you got disagrees is irrelevant to whether or not you are lying. If your comment is not overwhelmingly pro sony, you will get disagrees. I dont even have a 360 but the amount of sony fanboyism on this site is annoying.

Da One4805d ago

yeah i can tell by the disagree's we all have....

JAMurida4805d ago

@ all above

All you have to say is *****360****** and watch the disagrees fllllllllllllllloooowwwwwwwwww wwwwwwwwwwwwww in like water, lol.

Fanboys...

HSx94805d ago

Wanna get a lot of agrees? Write sOmething positive about Sony and the Sony fanboys will rape u with Agrees

olLANDSHARKlo4805d ago

But but but they have so many games to play, they don't have time for N4G. They will be on here one minute saying they have great games, and be on here all day, not playing these great games. These kids need to realize $ony and M$ are out to make the almighty dollar, they don't give a crap about you, just buy their system.

insomnium24804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

What a circlejerking pile of x360 fanboys. Get lost the lot of you. Da one how can you tell the fanboyism on this site since you all have even more agrees than disagrees. WTH? Based on that this place is neutral AT BEST. Mght be pro x360 even so what gives?

Most of the comments on this chain are so bad I cannot believe they got the amount of agrees they did. So much for this site being pro Sony.

My b-spec driver is earning some experience atm so that's why I have the time to be here now. I'm letting the ai drive and I'm waiting for the postman to bring me a new exclusive game for my PS3 (should arive today). How about that?

This news does not affect me whatsoever since I've had a PS3 since launch. I have all the games I need atm. Right now I'm playing GT5, Demon's Souls, KZ3 and Dead Space 2. That's a lot of games to squeeze in the limited time I have for gaming. Neptunia will be added to that soon. You guys are f*cking jelous nothing more. Sad bunch.

RememberThe3574804d ago

@HSx9: That didn't seem to work out too well in your post above. Your not a s slick as you seem to think you are.

On Topic: This isn't over. And I don't get way anyone should be "striking back". If you infringed on a patent refute the patent or pay out.

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lee_ten4804d ago

oh it goes both ways. write something sony/ps3 positive and get raped by multiple account trolls and 360 fanboys who think they're better than anyone else when they do the EXACT SAME THING.

DragonKnight4804d ago

@Lando Calrissian: You're one to talk Mr. 3 Bubbles. Guess people don't like those who give in to the Empire eh?

Let's see if anyone knows who I'm talking to.

Billy_Dee_Williams4804d ago (Edited 4804d ago )

Perhaps I think I'm being treated unfairly?!

DragonKnight4804d ago

You generalize in doing so.

chasegarcia4805d ago (Edited 4805d ago )

This may stop retailers from offering ps3 deals.

Zashule4805d ago

Great! Now hopefully I won't have to sift through news reports about 'stupendous' deals for $15 off a PS3!
LMAO

B1663r4805d ago

I am pretty sure the word was "stunning"

Scotland-Tha-Brave4805d ago

There was a "stupendous" one aswell.

dragonelite4805d ago

Dam sony is on a roll with legal bullshit they do and now its biting them.

ovhaum4805d ago

Karma is a Bitch, doesn't it, Sony.

rdgneoz34805d ago

'Isn't it', not "doesn't it."

TheNocturnus4805d ago

Oh well, glad I have my PS3!!

Motorola4805d ago

I should write a letter to LG saying, ITS IN MY LIVING ROOM AND U CANT TAKE IT BACK.

humbleopinion4804d ago

Don't bet on it. I think that some hackers wrote to sony the exact same "ITS IN MY LIVING ROOM AND U CANT TAKE IT BACK. " letter, and then they were raided by the German Police...

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Sony Patents To Prevent You From In-Game Harassment By Reading Your Emotions

A new patent recently published by Sony wants to gather biometric data of gamers to track whether one is being harassed using AI tools.

Profchaos19h ago(Edited 19h ago)

I hope this is one of those patents that never comes to fruition.

I already dislike the fact you can pay a significant amount for a online service buy associated games and content on said service and get banned from that service over potentially a misunderstanding the bans are already handed out for flimsy reasons

I'd rather see money invested in a ban that simply removes the offensive players ability to communicate with unknown players allow them to continue party chats with friends but not with Joe blow on cod.

exputers15h ago

Agreed. Blizzard recently banned a college Overwatch 2 player who's dependent for saying "shit." Pretty harsh.

Profchaos18m ago(Edited 17m ago)

How rediculas really. You can't say a word that's allowed in most PG films and prime time TV but the game is based around killing the enemy team using guns, explosives etc.

It's just backwards.

just_looken2h ago

What your talking about is called block list

In 2006 a spaceship dropped of the playstation 3/xbox 360 i say that that generation was the last great gen with game functions/tech that has yet to comeback

Anyhow the playstation 3 if you block listed a id they could not talk to you in chatroom with either text or voice. But that was pre mind fucked 2018 when people were more human than sheep.

But hey gta 6 is coming out billion dollar budget without a single player custom character creator and without singeplayer coop off/online something saints row 1-3 had on the xbox 360.

z2g11h ago

Take my social security and bank account numbers too! Here’s a picture of my wife and our address.

phoenixwing11h ago

Cmon where's the pictures of your children. Don't hold out on them.

H911h ago

At this rate I feel Sony will eventually sell a room to play games in it where they can monitor your every breath

jambola7h ago

I genuinely get a bit worried sometimes when a friend says something that could be offensive In a party
Because I have no trouble believing some bans would happen when in a private party for saying something wrong

SegaSaturn66910h ago

I want them to censor erotic content by measuring my groin temperature so i dont get too distracted while playing black ops 2.

Popsicle10h ago

Terrible idea. Not only do I not consent to providing my biometric data, the potential for mishandling biometric data is almost a certainty. Positive stress and negative stress can produce similar changes in biometrics. Interpreting the precise emotion a person is feeling is not only invasive but could be easily misconstrued. I hope this never comes to fruition.

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Sony Could Increase Your Game's Difficulty If It Sees You Complain About It

Sony has recently published a new patent that wants to dynamically handle the games' difficulty and gameplay based on the player's emotions.

jznrpg1d 3h ago

This is something I might use. Sometimes I play some good games but they don’t have difficulty option and are a little too easy.

Profchaos1d 2h ago

Souls games will be like that players struggling make it harder

PassNextquestion1d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

I think if used correctly it could work well

jambola22h ago

cool idea
cool idea for horror games especially
the way it's explained here sounds like it could never be forced hopefully, so that's ok with me

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Sony Taps Bungie's Head of Revenue to Lead Live-Service Games

Sony has recruited Bungie's head of revenue Jaremy Rich to head up its live-service gaming division, Rich has announced on social media.

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ChasterMies21d ago

Please do not put Destiny’s monetization into Sony’s first party games. The monetization is what’s driving players away from Destiny.

just_looken21d ago

The new temp boss is the sony cfo bean counter so i can see this being a thing get every penny.

Cacabunga21d ago

PlayStation officially losing it.. fans will never support gaas games

just_looken21d ago

@car

The new boss did a interview in japan he wants to tap into the mobile market like nintendio so he give 0 fucks about gamers/fans

https://www.pushsquare.com/...

Redemption-6421d ago

@Cacabunga
You only speak for you and those who think like you, but most fans will support what they want. Playstation and PC fans are literally supporting Helldivers 2 and that is a gaas. Maybe you wouldn't, but many more would if they like it.

Huey_My_D_Long21d ago

@Redemption-64
Look, Im not making any judgement calls about this guy, but I will say that Helldivers 2 GaaS model is unique to Helldivers, and legit the only other game I can think of thats similiar was the Avengers game except HD2 pass is still better.
The fact that you can earn in game currency in a way that doesnt make you feel like you have to grind forever, as well you being able work on that pass that you bought...on your own time without a time limit...that right there is fucking huge to me, and I can't name any game other than avengers that avoided trapping players with FOMO logic...I think GaaS on HD2 shouldn't be compared to the rest of the industry...it should be copied.

Einhander197220d ago

Cacabunga

Helldivers 2...

Redemption-64

In Europe it's a 60 40 split favoring PC.
In the US its a 60 40 split favoring PS5.

So PlayStation owners supported the game just fine, it's not getting carried by PC or anything like that.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

@just_looken,
I'm perfectly fine with the way Nintendo entered the mobile market, I never touched their mobile games, meanwhile, the console/handheld stayed the way it is. As for being a bean counter, he's probably going to reel in these massive budgets that Sony's studios have had lately, I haven't played Spiderman 2, but I cannot see how they almost tripled the budget for that game.

@Redemption-64,
That's an exception to the rule, I'm expecting a lot of these GAAS games from Sony to fail, to be fair, they only need a few to succeed, but I would have preferred that they put more of their resources into other types of games.

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DivineHand12521d ago

True their monetization is driving players away and at the same time, their decision to chop out content and convoluted systems is keeping new players away from the game.

Joe91321d ago

I don't think that will happen based on how things worked out at Naughty Dog now that we know what we do, seems they had the option to fully commit to live service games or stay making single player experences so they gave up on their live service game. We are not sure how things came about with Bend making a live service game but I hope that was not a forced situation. Sony doesnt seem like they are forcing studios to switch up but we will see, Sony's bread and butter is single player games it is how they dominated the console market.

Obscure_Observer21d ago

Yeah, I though Sony learned something from all their failures in the LS segment under Bungie´s disastrous leadership and supervision which led to games been cancelled, studios closed and all the people laid off.

Looks like Bungie still plays a major role in Sony´s LS initiative and Sony is not backtracking on their GaaS plans.

S2Killinit21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Are we forgetting that Destiny is also a highly successful franchise? I feel like that definitely deserves mention here.

Besides, there is no reason why a person cant learn from past experiences.

Joe91320d ago

I agree, people act as if Destiny flopped when it came out lol it took 9 to 10 years for the numbers to fall yet people are still playing it add the success of Helldivers 2 no wonder Sony is going forward down this path.

S2Killinit20d ago

Personally, I see no problem with Sony also having service games as long as they make good ones, and more importantly they deliver the AAA story driven games that they are known for. So yeah, I agree 100% with you.

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Christopher21d ago

I mean, this person made some pretty bad decisions at Bungie. I hope they've learned from them because I definitely don't see those type of ideas as good for PlaySation in general.

CrimsonWing6920d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Honestly, what’s to learn from? How to make people happily continuously dump money into a single game over its life-time? Buy season passes continuously for several years with a smile on our faces?

GaaS is a design decision that is everything wrong with this industry. The fact that Helldivers 2 did so well and people defend the monetization because it was $40 and is a fun game, scares the sh*t out of me to see that the door is open and all shift will probably be to replicate that in future games. We already know the ROI for traditional game dev cost isn’t doing it for them.

I thought with Jimbo leaving we’d see a change for the better… I’m not so sure now.

S2Killinit20d ago

Service games are being offered by everyone. Sony cannot afford to only create single player AAA games. No one can. They already said they will be doing both.

Abnor_Mal21d ago (Edited 21d ago )

Ps5 gamers in 2023 seemed to play more live service types of games, so regardless to how people feel about them, numbers don’t lie and Sony is going where the money is. I mean look at the excitement around Helldivers2, people are showing that they want live service games.

Christopher21d ago

They play long-time existing live service games like CoD, Fortnite, Apex Legends, Destiny 2, and the like. Mass majority of new live service games are considered failures and aren't moving gamers away from older games.

just_looken21d ago

Yep the huge issue with live service is they need paid players along with a reason to play them.

You forgot mobile market that also taps into that player base as well as the eve online style games there is only a certain amount of krakens/whales blind supporters compared to the amount of live service games we have its not sustainable math wise.

700 restaurants making food for every seat for 1000-3000 eaters just does not work out

Einhander197220d ago (Edited 20d ago )

Christopher

I am not a big live service fan and literally own zero of the games you listed, but that is not true, unless you call games that aren't the top games to be failures.

There are tons of live service games that are profitable.

Games don't have to be the biggest game ever they just need to make more than they cost.

I challenge you to show professionally prepared data that shows that more live service games fail than make enough to keep going.

Because all the data that I have seen shows that live service is less of a gamble than making a big AAA budget game which needs to survive off retail sales.

FinalFantasyFanatic20d ago

I sometimes wonder if we're at saturation point, where it's hard for a new game to join those ranks unless it's particularly exceptional, people only have so much time and money to devote to these types of games.

romulus2321d ago

Correction, they have no issue playing good live service games

shinoff218321d ago

Lol it's not even a quarter of the ps5s sold. Helldivers may have been a hit but let's not say most are enjoying it because truth is most(the real most ) don't care about it.

S2Killinit20d ago (Edited 20d ago )

I play what is fun. If a live service game is good I’ll play it as long as its not a money scheme which Helldivers is not.

And Im a single player gamer.

mastershredder21d ago

How do you kill a franchise that already been killed?
Destiny’s grind, cash-in-on-playbass-cha-Ching, and pop-culture-insertion mainstream-me-too bs totally killed any rep Bungie had. Sony/Bungie, if you are doing this to ward-off players, it’s already working.

crazyCoconuts21d ago

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"... off a cliff"

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