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Is Ninja Theory this generation’s Team ICO?

PSUni writes "Blasphemy is probably the best word to describe the title of this article, but regardless of that, we recommend reading it anyways. After all, what do you have to lose? You’re killing time at work right now anyways, aren’t you?

Almost ten years ago, a small development team from Japan named Team Ico made its debut within the gaming industry with its first title, Ico."

anthraxCZ4810d ago

definitely not, team ico is somewhere totally else - ico and shadow of the collosus are one of the best game ever, ninja theory´s games very hardly

captain-obvious4810d ago

wow
just wow
putting a legendary developer with the same caliber of team ICO
right along side some stupid new developer which is ungrateful and make 3-5 hour long games which flops all the time
and making future flops (( DMZ ))
is insulating to team ICO

this web site should just delete this article and submit an apology to team ICO

Istanbull4810d ago

Who is team ninja?

There is only one Team ICO and there ain't nothing else out there.

sdtarm4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

So Emo Geeks are now on Ninja Theory's side.. mhmm.. predictable

HolyOrangeCows4810d ago

Ninja Theory's Last Accomplishment: Crappy automatic-platformer with boring combat and a decent story.

Team ICO's Last Accomplishment: An amazing unique title with unique combat and awesome landscapes and creatures, that is more or less confirmed to be one of the first games to be honored by the Smithsonian.

Lekumkee4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

@HolyOrangeCows

What I hate even worse is all these so called "videogame journalist" keep shouting as if Enslaved is this grand masterpiece that nobody should miss when in fact it's not(not even in the same ballpark). The game was average at best. Repetitive boring/clunky combat with a stupid twist by arbitrarily throwing in a stupid co-op situation, automatic adventuring and the worse of all unlikeable characters.

dc14810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Very good Lekumkee. They turned Trip into a very unlikable person.. Very bossy. Zero regard for her or anyone else’s safety...and ohh.. did I mention that she was so bossy that I got tired of hearing her voice.

... but I loved Heavenly Sword :)

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limewax4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Well if they continued heavenly sword then maybe they would have had some leverage, but even then it needed major improvement. Team Ico(nic) however are in a seperate league, and are one of the few devs that create a game with a clear vision of the concept, and its always outside of the box.

NT's Enslaved was their most repetative game by a long shot, and I know they are going to destroy Devil May Cry. So even though I havent yet read the article and am now about to, I cant see anything being said in this article to swing my opinion at all

I stand corrected, Im going to add to the opinion, character interaction between monkey and trip isnt the best, not by a long shot, for that it has to be Prince of Persia, first one this gen, with the new prince and the girl

Rainstorm814810d ago

Blasphemy? More like insanity...

crzyjackbauer4810d ago

i have lost the respect i had for NJ when i saw the DMC re-boot trailer

why NJ why?

Godmars2904810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Insanity?

THIS-IS-*SPARTA!!!*

(Sorry, just hasn't been used in a while...

But yeah, whoever is trying to compare NT with Team ICO, they need to get their head outta of their @$$.)

Iroquois_Pliskin4810d ago

lol wtf did i just read? Ninja Theory are just a bunch of arrogant bastards

malandra4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Team Ico is this generation's Team Ico

and yep, that was blasphemy

Heavenly Sword and Enslaved are in no way, shape or form comparable to ICO and SOTC

InTheLab4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

I've spent more time riding my horse in SoTC than I have playing and beating two different Ninja Theory games on the highest difficulty...

I honestly don't understand the praise NT receives. Heavenly Sword was great while it lasted. Enslaved had an amazing story, but the gameplay was trash.

I'm not sure what's wrong with the author but I I do agree with you. Team Ico is this gen's Team Ico...NT is a mediocre dev with 2 decent games under their belt.

BigPenguin4810d ago

Why do people say enslaved had an amazing story? They tried to do a re-imagining of journey to the west, and butchered it.

And the ending of enslaved? My god, how can people like that bullshit.

Theonik4810d ago

One company has made just 2 games both being masterpieces and is going for the third which is looking amazing as well and the other has made 2 games both which sucked and is going to butcher a well loved franchise next. Guess which is which!

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MaideninBlack4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Don't make me loose my breakfast....

thatgamecompany is this gen's Team Ico...or the closet thing to it.

BlackTar1874810d ago

So far FromSoftware is my Team Ico of this generation.

Demon Soul all the way 2nd best PS3 game besides MGS4 IMHO.

macky3014810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Bro, Fromsoftware are probably my favorite developers this gen,.. but
I really don't see the comparison,..

You really don't cry for the same reasons :),..

BlackTar1874810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

I know.... But its a better comparison then Team Ninja lol maybe not.

Thanks for the response i voted agree for you not disagree just a FYI

Off topic a bit but can anyone tell me if Dragon Age is anything like Demon Soul or anyone recommend a game that is somewhat similar? I have been dying to play another game like that since i finished Demon Soul since i was late to the party and just finished Demon soul like 2 months ago.

StarScream4Ever4810d ago

Dragon Age is more tactical play than Demon Souls and not that hard unless you crack up the difficulty. Still a fun game and highly recommended. But don't expect DS like gameplay.

limewax4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

FromSoftware are definately one of the best right now, I personally would love SE to step it up and make the FF game everybody has been waiting for though as they manage to create my favourite worlds when they do things right.

DA is sort of similar by the way but the combat is not as focused at all. Other similar games would be the upcoming dark souls. And personally I always felt a lot of similarity between Demons Souls and Monster Hunter. If you havent played a monster hunter game you should definately try it. Very different theme of course but the level of challenge is extremely high as well and the combat is about mastering timing and techinques instead of just levelling like a mad man

Probably most hours you could put into any wii game

BlackTar1874810d ago

Awesome thanks everyone for the responses. I played Monster Hunter on ps2 maybe ill pick up the wii one and DA to tide me over. again thanks everyone.

TheDivine4810d ago

dude do you even know any other games they made, they arnt the best. A few good games and plenty shi*** games. No way. I think enslaved got overlooked just how EVERYONE overlooked ico. I heard ico was a zelda clone, bland boring exc. Now i hear enslaved sucks, un ripoff exc but i doubt you people even played either game. Nobody played or cared about ico and nobody cares about enslaved but both are amazing underrated gems. I see the resemblance.

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BlackTar1874810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

ICO and Shadow were really good games.

Armored Core are good games and so was 3d dot heros. I played all team ninja games and enslaved was cool but no where near the epic Team ico makes.

Also were talking about current gen only right so i thought 3d dot heros and Demon soul were btoh really good titles.

And i apologize if im mixing up any games here.

macky3014810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Yes,.. I agree,..
Fromsoftware are probably one of the best developers in the business,..
I personally think, that when it comes to level design, gameplay elements design,.. It is really hard to compare them with anyone else,..(maybe some things from Sinji Mikami).
They make you play in their worlds and abide bye their rules of the world,.. and you love them for it,..
I know it will sound blasphemous ,.. but I think they even made Zelda, better than Zelda with 3d dot.

Ico guys play on completely different notes though,..probably closer to thatgamecompany,.. I seriously rarely experience such an emotional trip in the game,.. lol and you pick flowers,..

jneul4810d ago

No... please dont go there enslaved was a joke....

Lord_Doggington4810d ago

it has a pretty good story. it was just a bit short and some of the gameplay was run of the mill.

it wasn't a joke tho

limewax4810d ago (Edited 4810d ago )

Compared with Heavenly Sword it was, Graphics were worse, Combat was a thousand times as bland and boring. Story wasnt as compelling, Characters were appaulling next to Nariko and Kai. Not to mention that HS had some truly amazing face MoCap that still looks better than almost anything other than LA Noire

Also Pigsy annoyed a lot of people. And no matter how much I tried, I couldn't hack the main character being called monkey.

It may have been a good first game for a new company, but the bar fell a long way from their first outing

Lord_Doggington4810d ago

doesn't make it a bad game. it has an 82 on metacritic, for crying out loud.

BigPenguin4810d ago

@Lord_doggington

Its funny, you use the story as pretty much your only reason why enslaved was not bad. You know that enslaved strait up jacked its story from journey to the west, considered one of the top 4 books of all time to come out of Asia. Not hard to have a good story when you steal it from public domain works.

@limewax
The main character was called monkey because in the book, it was the monkey king.

Corrwin4810d ago

Whilst I'd love that to be true, Team Ninja lack a certain spirituality in their games that Team Ico thrive on.

I would say ThatGameCompany (Cloud, Flow, Flower) is a closer contemporary - simple gameplay, beautiful environments, a higher message that doesn't choke the player who chooses to ignore it.

mac_sparrow4810d ago

ThatGameCompany are superb. It will take a massive downturn in quality to stop me buying their games the instant they hit, and that's after experiencing a bad game myself, not after reading reviews (which I have never used as a measure of a games worth.)

Krimmson4810d ago

The article is talking about Ninja Theory, not Team Ninja. Ninja Theory made Heavenly Sword and Enslaved. Team Ninja made Ninja Gaiden and Dead or Alive.

Corrwin4810d ago

@Krimmson
Ah, yeah - I get those confused. But be it Team Ninja or Ninja Theory, neither come as close to Team Ico than TGC.

In my book anyway.

Relientk774810d ago

Sorry Ninja Theory, but Team ICO is WAY better

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Former Hellblade Director & Ninja Theory Founder Explains Why He Left The Studio

Former Hellblade director and Ninja Theory co-founder has offered an explanation regarding his departure from the now Microsoft-owned studio.

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XiNatsuDragnel23d ago

I hope he forms a new studio soon

Cacabunga22d ago

It is a good studio.. i really enjoyed their dmc game that i platinumed it.
I did not try hellblade, because it doesnt tell me much.. Enslaved was very mehhh
Heavenly Sword was good not great. Amazing graphics back in the day but so repetitive and not so engaging in the long run.

stoney10122d ago

I really enjoyed Enslaved and Heavenly Sword back in the day. Wish they'd return to that sort of game. Hellblade isn't really for me to be honest. Not saying it's not a good game, I just couldn't get into it.

Popsicle22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

That is fair. I enjoyed Hellblade but can definitely see how it isn’t for everyone.

Would like to see how Heavenly Sword would have turned out if developed today. It’s easy to forget that games like Heavenly Sword were unprecedented and in their infancy.

shinoff218322d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Enslaved has been their favorite game for me. Loved the atmosphere.

1nsomniac22d ago

Heavenly sword was a staggeringly good game!! One of the most memorable of the PS3 generation in my opinion.

Babadook722d ago (Edited 22d ago )

Heavenly sword was good. It had ambitious graphics and as a result the frame rate suffered and as a result the gameplay suffered. But the story was phenomenal. Great acting, especially Andy Serkis as the king.

Jingsing22d ago (Edited 22d ago )

"Microsoft" we all read between the lines. We have seen the exact same thing happen with many of their other acquisitions

InUrFoxHole22d ago

Jesus man! Try reading the article at least.

cthulhucultist22d ago

One thing that pleasantly surprised me, was the Switch port, as back then it was my only console. The graphics were amazing and the artistic design helped a lot to enhance the visuals.I took some really impressive screen shots while playing which I still revisit them from time to time to remind me what a capable developer (QLOC) can achieve with weaker hardware.

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Xbox Acquired Hellblade Developer Ninja Theory for $117 Million

According to FTC filings, Microsoft acquired Ninja Theory for $117 million.

Obscure_Observer308d ago

Ninja Theory is made of very talented and passionate developers.

I´m glad that saw that studio´s potential and chose it to be part of the Xbox family!

Now under Xbox they´re AAA and has all the freedom and resources in the world to deliver amazing games for us!

Thank you Phil and Tameem Antoniades.

blackblades308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

Stop slurping in public

RpgSama308d ago

He is getting out of hand lately, he took it to 11 now.

Army_of_Darkness308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

@Obscure_Observer

"oh thank you so much Xbox! Kiss! Kiss! Kiss! I bend the knee for you my lord!" 🤣🤣

Ninja theory is okay. Not great.

Elda308d ago

LOL!! That's the behavior & words from a true fanatic.

Crows90308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

The potential??? Remind us all who they've tapped their potential? What new IP are they working on???

Oh wait...that's right. They needed a cinematic story driven IP ...hellblade was well received so they bought them for peanuts.

And let's see.. what are they currently working on and to what scope compared to before??

Basically the same game but #2
Similar situation to the tomb raider sequel except this time they made this sequel a permanent exclusive.

Knushwood Butt308d ago

Maybe Bleeding Edge was the potential.

Crows90308d ago

@knush

Oh crap you're right. Lol that thing was definitely a result of the Microsoft acquisition.

4Sh0w308d ago

Ninja Theory has alot of potential, but Hellblade 2 needs more action gameplay before I get excited. They did well with Heavenly Sword & DMC games so hopefully we'll see a full blown new action IP from them after H2.

Crows90308d ago

@4sh0W

Just imagine what they could do...people falsely claiming hellblade 2 is like god of war...Heavenly sword, which was a playstation exclusive, was more in competition with god of war.

Obscure_Observer307d ago

"Oh wait...that's right. They needed a cinematic story driven IP ...hellblade was well received so they bought them for peanuts."

MS paid $117 million for Ninja Theory which at the time was an indie studio made of only 20 people.

Sony paid $229 million for Insomniac which at the time were made of 400 employees.

That was a steal! Lol!

"And let's see.. what are they currently working on and to what scope compared to before??"

The original Hellblade was developed and produced by only 20 people (Melinda included).

As an Xbox first party studio, Ninja Theory has now 200+ employees and Hellblade II will be full AAA game powered by UE5. In term of scope, the original Hellblade only features only small areas to explore, while in Hellblade II gamers will be allowed to explore all areas of Iceland.

"Basically the same game but #2"

Lol. You´re in for a major shock! XD

Crows90307d ago

@obscure

There will be shock...but It think itll be all over you.
The same but number 2 wasnt meant as an insult. I liked the first one..so I know I'll like the second. You probably didnt care for the first one for a couple of reasons.

1. They were you referred to it as a small indie game
2. It wasnt an xbox exclusive

Youll be in shock when its pretty much the same but number 2. Number 2 of any game is ALWAYS bigger.
God of War Ragnarok is essentally God of War but number 2. Same kind of game but bigger in scope.

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neutralgamer1992308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

Obscure

You really think he gives a damn about you or me thanking him? Seriously man does it not bother you at all that you are such a huge fanboy of Xbox and your comments come across like cult members

Be a gamer for gaming these corporations don’t care about any of us. We are dollar signs to them

On topic

I am glad for NT because their last game they struggled so much just to complete it and companies even provided equipment just for them to get the work done. Now they have peace of mind with resources they need. Hopefully they can naturally grow into a bigger studio and make some amazing games

Godmars290308d ago

They're mid tier devs at best. Failed to nail one of their biggest shots with Heavenly Sword, went way over their weight limit with DMC: DmC, and got lucky with apparent one-shot, B title Hellbalde. Which MS expects them to make into a franchise?

I'll just wait for the first "Hellbalde better than GOW" article. Cause that's going to be fun...

4Sh0w308d ago

Salt, Salt, Salt is basically all you said.

Vengeance1138308d ago

Mid developer remains mid lol Wake me up when they actually put out something half decent haha

porkChop308d ago

It's funny how no one called them mid tier until Xbox acquired them. People loved Heavenly Sword, Enslaved, Hellblade, etc, but now they're suddenly mid tier? Touch grass.

MadLad308d ago

@porkchop

I mean, you called it out first and you're not wrong.
DmC definitely got the shaft, yet it was successful and a good game. The closest thing they ever released to be considered "mid" was Heavenly Sword.

Lightning77308d ago

It's Bad now but great here. https://n4g.com/news/208826...

Even saying support Hell Blade because Shadow Of Wars Microtransactions.

Scroll down a little bit and you'll even see Obscures comment. He may be A hardcore Xbox fanboy but at least he's consistent here. Can't say the same in these comment sections.

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1nsomniac307d ago

While the corporate xbox ass licking is as pathetic as it gets. How is it any different to the Sony usuals in here that sprout this pathetic crap on a daily basis!

They both need to get filtered elsewhere so the grown ups can talk like adults.

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P_Bomb308d ago

I wonder if they’ll ever reboot Enslaved?

shinoff2183308d ago

I liked enslaved I felt it was one of their better games

Sonic1881308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

Enslaved was just mediocre. So I doubt they'll bring that back. Tbh most of their games were mediocre including Hellblade. That felt like a walking simulator

Knightofelemia308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

Enslaved was a sleeper hit which it was and is still a great game to play. If a person who missed out on it I would say snag it off Ebay and play it. It's still one of my favorite games.

Melankolis308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

It was a good game, but....just good, not great nor it interesting. Maybe the background of the characters aren't well told, lack of lore, just start and play. I gave it 8. Good but easily forgettable. Yeah you may call it mediocre. NT is quite talented, but they lack something.

Sonic1881308d ago (Edited 308d ago )

@Knight

I never felt like their games were great. Just solid or mediocre but that's my opinion. I am still interested in playing Hellblade 2 on PC because of the graphics. I think this game is going to look fantastic on PC

mkis007308d ago

Damn this really puts into perspective yet again how good a deal sony got for insomniac...the workhorse of the industry at this point.

Aloymetal308d ago

That was the 1st thing that came to my mind, Sony got Insomniac for pennies and they've been pumping out great games since this gen started nonstop. Amazing.

MEGANE308d ago

Yes but any winnings there they lost on bungie, imo.

mkis007308d ago

I somewhat disagree. They bought Bungie for the expertise. The largest chunk of Bungie was for talent retention; they paid more to make sure everyone stayed at Bungie. Sony wants talent, IP's are just a bonus because they know they can and will create more.

__SteakDeck__308d ago (Edited 307d ago )

@MEGANE I know I’m going to get downvoted to hell, because this is n4g and people here hate GAAS games. But how the hell did they lose on Bungie? Do you know how much money Destiny will bring and Marathon will bring? Lol

MEGANE307d ago

I get it, but a couple Billion more and they could have bought square enix… a publisher full of IPs… I don’t disagree with acquiring bungie but 3.5 billion and sony can’t even dictated exclusivity? Please.

PhillyDonJawn308d ago

They have High potential. Add some good combat mechanics and action to go with the graphics and story telling. Ad you got a mega hit.

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Senua’s Saga: Hellblade 2 Developer Diary Goes Behind the Scenes With Motion Capture

Ninja Theory outlines the upgrades made for performance capture, leading to more realistic animations in the upcoming sequel.

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rlow1322d ago

This game looks incredible. Loved the first one, the story was good. I’m curious to see where they take it.

potatoseal322d ago

Yeah the story was really good in the first one and I have no doubt the story will be great in this one too. I just hope they can improve a lot on the gameplay side of things this time around, more specifically the combat.

Tacoboto322d ago

They'll have doubled the combat encounters from 6 to 12, with 48 motion-captured fall down and push back animations

rlow1321d ago

I agree, for me the combat was sluggish and repetitive. I’m really hoping they nail 60 fps.

Terry_B322d ago

..replace game with movie and it makes sense.

cthulhucultist321d ago

Funny this is that the QLOC's port of Hellblade on Switch, was amazing graphically (given the limitations of the hardware that is).

I was amazed by the graphics, lighting and scenes and I couldnt stop taking photos with photo mode.

My only issue is with the next game (and I suspect that most people will agree on this), is that we have not seen much gameplay (few actual gameplay seconds back at Game Awards 2021).

If this is indeed slated for 2024 release, they should showcase some gameplay in Gamescom or at another event this year.

giovonni322d ago

I can’t wait to see where this game takes us this time around

CrimsonWing69322d ago (Edited 322d ago )

Guys! Ffs, just show a normal bit of the game. Yes the motion capture technology and graphics fidelity looks great, but my god… it’s like all that we ever see. I want to see another VGA level showcase where we see more of the combat or something other than a cutscene or showing off the tech.

Flawlessmic322d ago

100%!!!

Becoming a joke now, it's been 4 years, it's about dam time we get some real gameplay.

Enough with the dev diary's already.

Shadowsteal322d ago

Announced in 2019, and not a lick of gameplay. Might as well just produce a movie at this point.

Magog322d ago

It's basically
Motion Capture: The Game