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Ninja Theory dev on Hellblade II demo It's all real-time, no tricks

Hellblade II Audio Director David García says that the gameplay demo which the
team showcased at TGA is real gameplay without any tricks.

PrinceOfAnger865d ago

A lot of people thought it was all CGi, maybe they didn't play the first game.

isarai865d ago

I thought the reveal trailer wasn't real time, and looks like i was right cause this trailer doesn't look as good. Still looks amazing, but that reveal trailer was misleading, and a lot of people ate it up.

Lightning77865d ago

You should of done research because that's where your wrong.

https://gamingbolt-com.cdn....

The first trailer didn't show any gameplay just the graphics. So no character models running around or advanced physics at play just the world unlike the new trailer. I wouldn't call it any kind of downgrade, when Senua talks her mouth and teeth still have the same sync and detail like the first trailer. The fire has the same detail.

You sound very disappointed this was real in game trailer as you attempted to revert back to the original trailer as being fake in order to downplay. I guess you wanted it
to Be fake or something?

MadLad864d ago

@lightning

They don't actually care about being right. They just want people to think they're right, so it downplays the showing.

bouzebbal864d ago

It did look good but felt like a movie the only thing she was doing was throwing arrows

mkis007864d ago

I mean it wasn't very interactive as far as intertwining gameplay systems go, but not all games need that kind of thing. Some games can just be art with interactive elements.

Babadook7864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

Yes. I agree with you. The character faces and lighting in the first "trailer" were too good to be true. DF agreed as well. This new one is good but no where near the top graphics of today.

gravedigger863d ago

It is a clearly downgrade, especially in character design, little less in environments. First trailer was a real-time, so, it used a gameplay assets, so, yes, it is a downgrade!

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SeTTriP864d ago

Why would they? the series x is more then capable of producing this type of fidelity in real time and the game is linear.

Godmars290864d ago

But so linear and static gameplay can be mistaken as a cutscene?

Old McGroin864d ago

@ Godmars290

Just started playing the first Hellblade a couple of days ago. It's a very linear, narrative led game, no HUD and looks fantastic. Having played it I had no problem believing the Hellblade 2 trailer was in real time. You should give it a go, it's a great game.

frostypants864d ago

People apparently missed the Matrix tech demo, too.

Godmars290864d ago

@frostypants:
And notice there's clear distinction about what is and isn't gameplay.

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itsmebryan864d ago

I think the game looked great even though I couldn't get in to the first one I will give it a try.

Also what happened to all those people that Unreal 5 could only run on PS5 because of it's "super fast SSD" . This game and Matrix awaken proves them wrong again. People really need to stop jumping to conclusions before they get all the facts and stop making things up.

dumahim864d ago

I don't remember anyone saying UE5 would only run in PS5. That'd be shot down immediately. I don't think anyone thought Epic was going to make UE5 exclusive. Whether or not Xbox could run Lumen in the Land of Nanite could be up for debate though, since no one knows what HD speeds would be needed, especially for the last part when she's flying.

itsmebryan862d ago

@dum
Look it up. When the first UE5 demo came out on on PS5 fans of PS5 were saying only the PS5's super fast SSD would be able to run UE5 as well. I tried to tell them that that made no sense and the UE5 was for all platforms. But, they told me I was wrong and downvoted me.

Look it up to see how silly fanboys can be.

Flewid638864d ago

There are a lot of games they clearly haven't played.

FlavorLav01864d ago

It’s a “next-gen” linear walking Sim. It should look that good! Anything less would’ve been a disappointment after this much time.

itsmebryan864d ago

@Flavor
"Walking sim"? I thought it had alot more going on than just "Walking ". Please explain.

FlavorLav01864d ago

@itsmebryan, based on the 1st game. We all know that combat was more than basic. Ryse son of Rome had “complex” gameplay compared to Hellblade. It’s a plague tale type game. Heavy on atmosphere, super light on actual combat and gameplay mechanics. Therefore, if it weren’t pretty it wouldn’t stand out. Graphics are what this game has going for it, just like the 1st game.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH864d ago

Have you played Hellblade 2 yet? You seem to have some inside info about the game.

Atom666864d ago

That's not what a "walking sim" is though. Why does that get thrown around so much?

And the stand out feature from the first game was the audio more than the graphics. It was pretty, especially for its budget at the time, but that's not what made it special.

The bigger budget, resources, time, and power certainly is helping improve those graphics, though. I'm also excited to see that updated combat they've discussed. We haven't seen what all of this work produces yet:

"Melina Juergens, the actress who plays Senua, has also been training hard with Smiff, the swordmaster for Star Wars and Game of Thrones. The team is capturing every move, Senua and enemy AIs alike, via motion capture which gives the impression that they plan on making combat more complicated and realistic than it was in the last game."

Old McGroin864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

@ FlavorLav01

Wouldn't say your description is accurate. The combat isn't basic as you say. There's light and heavy attacks as well as kick back/melee which can be mixed and matched for combos as well as dodging, blocking and parrying. You fight multiple foes together and get audio warnings from the voices in your head if an attack is incoming from behind etc. There's also your Focus mode and bosses for each area. So no, the combat isn't basic.

The meat of the game revolves around puzzles, most of which I've come across involve clever audio and visual clues to progress. On top of that, the graphics and voice acting are on another level.

Guessing you haven't played it because even though I'm only about half way through it I can see your description is way off.

Lightning77864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

I guess you hated The Order, Detroit, The Last Of Us, Death Stranding then?The games that Sony is heavily known for or is that different some how?

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CaptainHenry916864d ago

Going to be waiting for a long time ⌛️ on this one https://www.techradar.com/n...

Godmars290864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

All I'm hearing is that as a budget title the first Hellbalde was little more than an interactive graphic novel. That this sequel, while having access to more resources and UE5, isn't going to be much more.

And that regardless of that, the Xbox camp will defend it as only being ground breaking. Something that's been imposed upon if not promised by NT but never delivered.

Saranya864d ago

If it were Sony games, "Oh it's must be realtime."

Godmars290863d ago

If it were Sony, they'd not only have a reputation behind such claims, but like with the KZ2 demo from back in the day that later proved to be more mock up than actual gameplay, clear suggested indication of what was and wasn't gameplay. A graphical breakdown after the fact that further aimed for representative gameplay. Not just a dev saying it was real.

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darthv72865d ago

I could tell when it would shift from non-player controlled sequence to player controlled. Many expressed how it didnt seem like game play due to the lack of a targeting reticle or any sort of on screen hud / command queues. I figured for this slice, they just turned that off so you could focus more on all the details of the demo.

Obelisk92864d ago

To me it just looks like an in-engine trailer. Yeah it's real time, but I highly doubt it's actual gameplay, the camera is way too scripted.

Still looks very good of course.

Powerhug864d ago

If you look closely you can see the transition between scripted events and the player taking control over the character. They sort of look like micro stutters.

Neonridr864d ago

it was reported by one of the people at the studio that it was being played by a dev.

Jericho1337864d ago

We’ll the first game didn’t have a hud either.

jukins864d ago

Only time that looked player controlled was the the running away from the troll. You could see a little hitch before the running started.

dumahim864d ago

I think when she aimed to throw the spear was controlled as well since it seemed like the screen was locked to her aim. It was pretty short through since they didn't spend much time aiming.

oldenjon864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

Wrong, this game is super basic. There is no hud because there is no complexity to the combat system. These games are just a vehicle for story, and the combat is only there for immersion. It's niche AF, first game was priced at $30 sold 1 million.... I don't know why people are getting so hyped or why Microsoft is trying to hype it so much. Also, the trailer is an in-engine story sequence with a few parts where you control movement. I doubt you control spear throwing but as you can see they're totally ineffective against the giant, and just part of the story anyways.

1nsomniac864d ago

While you’re right about the second half of your comment the first half proves you’ve never actually played the first game.

oldenjon864d ago

@1nsomniac care to tell me how the first half is wrong or how you would know I didn't play the first game?

wiz7191864d ago

Crazy thing the first game didn’t really have a HUD , unless it’s turned off by default

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ApocalypseShadow865d ago

It's not impossible to see. Both consoles can display graphics at a level beyond cross gen games. We just need the shift to current consoles by developers a lot sooner. When that happens, graphics like this or better will just be common place just like every gen from first party engines. Even the third party Unreal Engine demos(plural) past and present, proved that.

CS7864d ago

100%. People are highly underestimating how much cross gen games are really holding us back.

The SSD is a complete game changer in video game design and yet we have to wait 2 years for it to be used consistently.

GOW2 and Horizon FW while I’m sure will be great I can help but imagine what it would have been like without cross-gen.

To all who are struggling to get a PS5 at MSRP. Go on Twitter and follow the PS5 supply drop accounts.
Turn on notifications. Immediately as they are posted go to the retailers site and order. You would get one within a week.

Flewid638864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

Cross gen games holding what back? The Order came out a gazillion years ago and still looks like CGI. Death Stranding has photorealistic characters across all platforms, and it still runs at heightened framerates on stronger hardware.

Literally every modern Quantic Dream game since Beyond 2 Souls on PS3 look like this as well. Law of diminishing returns on visuals started last gen.

Teflon02864d ago

Horizon looks fantastic. GoW looks like the last game with more detail. But Horizon is a pretty big leap. They're just not using the same lense tricks as it's not needed in it. Personally I'd rather the artstyle they're using over photo realism. Hellblades style words for it since it's a mind game

AKS864d ago

I spent months following supply drops with trackers and was up in the middle of the night for hours before I actually got a PS5, and that was in an expensive bundle. I started trying to grab one essentially the second the supply became available. Often websites just locked up and continuously loaded in the checkout/ shopping cart for 15 minutes, which is long after they were gone. I have a 1 Gbps connection. It wasn't something I was doing wrong. You were just very lucky if you got one within a week.

jukins864d ago

Cross gen games dont hold back. . . Plenty of examples. . .Spiderman miles, forza horizon 5, horizon forbidden west all look amazing. .

Muigi864d ago

Exactly and I wish people would stop defending them, just because they can’t get their hands on a next gen console.
Cross gen 100% holds back these consoles. Those old consoles are from 2013 with slow HDDs and cellphone cpu’s. Yes they’re are good looking games from the PS4 era, but its not just about visuals when we talk about the limitations the last gen brings.

CS7864d ago

To all who are saying oh the graphics look great on cross gen games.

YOU ARE MISSING THE POINT.

The SSD allows for exponentially different entire game structures.

For example lets say GG wanted to make a triple -layered city bustling with people in Horizon FW. The city would need to be structured in a way that gives the PS4 HDD enough time to load so they would need to build the city with repeating assets. There would be long elevator rides and winding roads to hide that the PS4 is loading. This seamless city cannot be built on PS4.

In Ragnarok, let’s say there was a 2,000 person army battle, with you flying over the fight and fighting a giant. Sorry! The PS4 can’t load all of that at the same time. So that idea would need to be scaled back to what the PS4 can handle and then just look pretty on PS5.

It is not just the graphics. It is so much more. Last gen is holding back nex gen.

iplay1up2864d ago

Thank you! I didn't know that!! Will give it a try! Luckily we have a temporary roommate. She is playing my Series X, and I am finally getting hands on with PS5. Both consoles are great!

I definitely will miss her PS5 when she is gone. Been looking all year for one. I will gladly take your advice!

Flewid638858d ago

People will sit there and say cross gen games hold visuals back, while literally nothing next gen looks as good as games like TLOU2. lmao

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walken7865d ago

Looked neat, but the constant screaming was overkill.

My_Name_is_Earl864d ago

Right? Whisper when fighting a giant monster who is eating your friend.

Michiel1989864d ago

whisper in a battle? its a battle not a sexual encounter....

CrimsonWing69864d ago

@Michiel1989

I’m pretty sure that was his point…

My_Name_is_Earl864d ago

My bad Michiel, I forgot some people have a hard time detecting sarcasm.

4Sh0w864d ago

lol, that was a funny exchange but on another note I really like what their doing cinematically with this game....not every game has to appeal directly to me, I dont want to ruin it for the fans of the last game but I cant help but hope this one has more gameplay action for me. The graphics and story telling is phenomenal tho'.

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Magog864d ago (Edited 864d ago )

Yeah that's gonna get old fast. If you've played any Ninja Theory game you know overacting is their signature.

HardKnockKid24864d ago

So stop playing their games?

Binarycode864d ago

Kinda reminds me of The later Tombraiders grunts and such. Overkill. Did my head in.

My_Name_is_Earl864d ago

Your kin here on N4G. Don't play daft.

MadLad864d ago

The downplay mob of the usual sorts were really, really playing hard after the game awards.

mkis007864d ago

How many are people with avatars that you see daily on here though. There are many throwaway accounts that only show up to fanboy for one side or another.

generic-user-name864d ago

Nothing about this trailer made me think it wasn't gameplay, well 'gameplay'. The first trailer on the other hand, the one that supposedly showed off how strong the XSX is, yeah I'm not surprised that one wasn't real.

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein17h ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii13h ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo13h ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows9012h ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

Michiel19894h ago

Not sure why you're getting agrees. an awful lot of console gamers are overemotional twinks ready to go to war over a plastic box, I'll take being a pc gamer then.

Speaking about overgeneralizing much.

qalpha13h ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno13h ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan13h ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno12h ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life198113h ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

SegaSaturn6694h ago

I never liked refunding anything. Even if a film is bad, i dont want my money back. Sometimes things just aren't for me, and it's not the creator's fault necessarily.

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Inverno1d 8h ago

The only PlayStation dev I care about tbh.

Inverno13h ago

Dayum did I hit a nerve. Sorry for not liking most of this gens games coming from PS, not really doe.

Cacabunga1d 8h ago

Hopefully doesn’t take them a complete gen to release it

TheColbertinator1d 3h ago

Good. Something not boring, not one of those "make your own game" crap and also on Steam would be nice.

Stopac1d 1h ago

I too like to look for things in the wrong places.

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Tacoboto2d ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger882d ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb19811d 16h ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein1d 15h ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.