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Why the "Play Time" of a Game Shouldn't Be "News"

"Today, Eidos Montreal made “news” by announcing that the play time for the delayed Deus Ex: Human Revolution title coming out of the studio sometime this year would take 25 hours to play through. I get a kick out of developers or publishers attaching a specific play time to a game, especially in this day and age. Even if someone wanted to know how long a game is and, for some ignorant reason, would base their purchase on that arbitrary number alone, there are still two big reasons why I don’t think play time matters. Let’s take a look at them."

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Ninferno5278d ago

Great editorial.... Makes sense. Who cares?

CrzyFooL5278d ago

I think it's important if a game is overly short or long. Like when I find out certain movies are just over an hour or 3+ hours that's some info I'd like to know.

I can't sit through a 3+ hour movie in theaters. Man's gotta pee ya know.

seinfan5278d ago

Wait for the DVD or BluRay, then.

thevokillist5277d ago

Shortness of games make me feel like I'm wasting my money. I don't want to spend $60 for a game that is going to take me only a few hours to beat. I consider myself an experienced gamer and the main things I look at is difficulty and how long its going to take me to beat. 25 hours is a good amount of time to complete a game. 6 hours, not so much.

Good read, man.

JoelT5278d ago

Time and time again people swear by the length of all of these WRPG titles, yet i know tons of games that completely trump them in terms of narrative. It's not even fair!

Chadness5278d ago

Most games trump WRPGs when it comes to narrative, especially sandbox-style ones like Oblivion.

Chadness5278d ago

Well, when you have sandbox RPGs, the story tends to lack a bit in favor of freedom and character creation trumps having a defined character with a tight story.

Not that they're bad, but focused narratives like Mass Effect or Persona 4 will always trump "go anywhere, do anything" type games like Oblivion.

But, like I said, I still love sandbox games for what they are, but when I go to play a game, it is the narrative that draws me, nothing else.

Objective5278d ago

Beg to differ, I think Oblivion had a great main plot and many many great subplots, and all that makes the experience all the more engaging, whether you choose to explore all the subplots or not.

MMFGaming5278d ago (Edited 5278d ago )

The reason why game length is particularly relevant to Deus Ex is largely because it shows that the developers are very much aware of what Deus Ex fans want -- a long, RPG that actually develops characters and engages gamers in its world.

That was an element that was largely missing from Deus Ex: IW and its abysmal 12-hour run time, and that's why it was important for the developers to let gamers know, "hey, we're not screwing this up...it's not going to be a 8 hour FPS".

Deus Ex will not be just another sci-fi FPS. People don't seem to realize that (primarily because the generation of today probably hasn't played previous Deus Ex games) and that's why it's important for Square Enix to firmly separate it from the rest of the other shooters on the market.

As a Deus Ex fan who was devastated by Deus Ex: IW, I thought it was very, very exciting news.

CrzyFooL5278d ago (Edited 5278d ago )

Human Revolution is DX 1 of the 21st century. But you didn't hear that from me ;-)

allenhpark5278d ago

It's true, but it's sadly a product of our generation. When $60 games these days only take like eight hours to complete, PR companies are gonna try to do what they can to sell their game to others.

taz80805278d ago

Play time is very subjective any way. Some people can power thru games faster than others, skip thru non essentials or just go online. BUt yes, playtime has become greatly over rated. If playtime were so important than WoW should be the greatest game in the universe, as it never ends and you could isck millions of hours into it.

Objective5278d ago

I think the issue is playtime per dollar spent. But I'm more interested in having a great experience that I would not hesitate to replay.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro479d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72479d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_479d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga479d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23479d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000479d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin479d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole479d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix479d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989479d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor479d ago (Edited 479d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989479d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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Viljong786d ago

The og deus ex is magical. Im also very exited about mass effect legendary edition from the gp. Its next on my playlist never played mass effect game before.

IamTylerDurden1786d ago (Edited 786d ago )

Never played ME? It's imo the greatest trilogy of all-time and perhaps the best setting outside maybe Fallout. Play it. Great DLC as well. In 2 & 3 at least. Skip Andromeda. Also, Human Revolution was great as well even if OG fans claim otherwise.

shinoff2183786d ago

Mass effect 1 was great. I feel they dumbed down alot on the 2nd one and seemed more action like. Mass effect 1 the citadel was an explorable city. Far as I got in Mass effect 2 it was reduced to a location list no traveling through it. I disliked it alot(the citadel) part. I also feel they went more action oriented then rpg

just_looken786d ago

It always makes me mad when you see something you have done in the first mass effect or dragon age can make something change in the 3rd because bioware make 6 games in what 8 years? that did this but today 0 games do this.

I wish we had trilogies today were we can share saves and have multiple endings/path's on all 3 because of choices from anyone of them.

Its so funny being the bad sheparad from one to 3 then the end having just you and joker ha ha yet everyone is like hey your a hero with a 90% casualty rate.

CBaoth785d ago

Fallout can't hold Mass Effect's jockstrap. The one Fallout even in the ballpark is 3, and that's only because the DLC was extremely good. When Ken Rolston was in Bethesda's employment were they good. That's about it. They're now the world's greatest copy/paste developer out there. Bioware at their pinnacle was ten times better a studio than Todd's team. Go look up the games

IamTylerDurden1785d ago

Mass Effect is my favorite, followed by 2 and 3. Yes, ME2 was dumbed down but also refined in terms of polish and accessibility. ME2 had an awesome story, great DLC, and a solid cast. Mordin in particular. It's a great game. Even 3 which was the weakest was still solid imo despite the ending. If u love ME how do u not enjoy all 3?

Fallout is not a better game though FO3 was great. In terms of setting though Fallout is Mt Rushmore. The 50's post apoc setting was brbrilliant. I still put ME setting n lore above but FO is up there with setting.

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esherwood786d ago

Man play mass effect, best games ever

Miraak82 786d ago

Xenogears is my fav sci fi rpg

closed_account785d ago

Right? There's a serious lack of classics on this list.

The original 2 Star Oceans. Rogue Galaxy...

IamTylerDurden1785d ago

Rogue Galaxy never got that critical love. Beautiful PS2 game. Was it L5?

closed_account784d ago

@IamTylerDurden1 Yep, Level5. Love their stuff. Dark Cloud 3 please...

Godmars290786d ago

Why aren't there more? A Star Trek RPG for one. Or something with non humanoid aliens?

shinoff2183786d ago

Cause for some damn reason medieval is more popular ugghhh. I'd take some sci fi sh anyway over it. I've said time and time again I hope the elden guys are working on a sci fi type game.

Godmars290786d ago (Edited 786d ago )

Something non-post apocalypse or dystopian. Just world saving. Fighting bad guys while doing good and dealing with ethical/moral/psychological quandaries.

sadraiden785d ago

The reason why fantasy RPGs, and Fantasy as a genre, are more popular than Sci-Fi, is because of the low technology/high magic tropes. If all of your problems can be solved with looking up the answer on a smartphone, well, there's just lower stakes than if a character has to have a sword fight, and climb the tower, and rescue the fair princess and recite the ancient incantation to seal the evil.

Obviously you can have universe ending stakes in Sci-Fi, but that requires abstract reasoning, and an ability to RP in a way that is progressive instead of regressive. Couple that with Sci-Fi games and media generally being faster paced, and you've got a genre that attracts a very specific demographic of gamers.

just_looken786d ago

or go crazy and make a starship troopers rpg can you survive the bug fight?

The animated show was great showed what someone can do with the lore.

Fist4achin785d ago

A Starship Troopers game as a real time strategy like the command and conquer series would be awesome.

just_looken785d ago

@fist

We have that today but its a small team with a smal budget
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Its not a major rts sadly but a start

jznrpg786d ago

I really hope Naughty Dog is doing a Sci-Fi game. As a lover all most things RPG I would love to see Naughty Dog quality in an RPG.

porkChop786d ago

They could do some really great stuff with sci-fi. The sense of grand adventure of Uncharted, but also with the stealth and crafting of The Last of Us. Different planets, creative alien races, collecting junk to craft repairs and upgrades for your ship and weapons, etc.

shinoff2183786d ago

Porkchop

Your getting me excited for something that doesn't exist. Damn

shinoff2183786d ago

He'll yea , hope we here something about that if they are. I'm not to worried about factions at all

just_looken786d ago

If it was the old naughty dog i would want that the new naughty dog no thanks.

IamTylerDurden1785d ago (Edited 785d ago )

TLOU2 is the finest game ND has made. U4 was fantastic. New ND is a more impressive ND. I don't rate Crash n Jak like i do Uncharted and TLOU. Even Uncharted 1 and 3 were not as well crafted as TLOU, TLOU2, U4 imo. Idc if ppl troll TLOU2, most ppl are clueless, that game was incredibly impressive.

TLOU2 combat, visuals, and acting were the best of the genre. I found the story deeper and more profound than most but it's subjective. The level design was excellent also. The score. Audio. Animation. It was a masterpiece to me. The rope physics, detail. TLOU2 deserved Elden Ring scores and ER deserved TLOU2 scores. If any game deserved 97 in recent years it's TLOU2. Best game i ever played and if ppl come with Abby bs i already know it's not worth it. Those who call TLOU2 trash are foolish. Just look at it running...

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Exploring the Artistic Vision of Famous Concept Artist David Brochard

In this interview, we will delve into the creative process of David Brochard. Behind the scenes with concept artist David Brochard, showcasing his creative process in gaming industry from Call of Duty to Dark Souls 3 and Star Citizen. Discover how his passion & skills bring immersive worlds to life.

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