Microsoft has shrugged off any fear that its Core Xbox 360 will struggle for prominence in the Christmas market – and told MCV that its price drop will tempt customers away from PS3.
1.price : competitive+ price cut+ range of SKU
2.relaibilty :extended warrinty+falcon in the wy
3.software: huge lineup:HALO3 in the top+wide range of games
4.markting:this is will be the key.they got good AD in UK tv . HALO3 marketing will have big impact.
5.services: live +DL movies SD/HD+ IPTV which they need to make people more aware of
6.phriphales: i think they got the best + HD-DVD seems more attractive than ever befor afteer Parmount move, they just need to give us the same traat as USA with free 5 movies
@3:do like me ps3/wii/360/(not too crapy)pc
You are forgeting MASS EFFECT
Isn't that the point of a price-drop?....
i gave them a chance when i bought their 360 (never owned original xbox). all i've had was trouble with them (too many to name).
the only games i really enjoyed was Dead Rising and Gears.
maybe its because i've always been waiting for the ps3, but even without many games, i still see way more value in ps3. the 360 is nice to have to compare, but in the end its almost a no brainer.
my cousins has had my 360 since the ps3 launched and i still play over his house from time to time, but i don't even miss it. Besides Mass Effect and maybe Bioshock, there's no other games coming for 360 that even interest me, so i told him he can have it. and now with the onslaught of great games coming on ps3, im going to be too busy for two consoles anyway (i do have a life besides playing games all day).
I definitely wont be getting another 360, i tried to give them a chance but after two years, it not worth the hassle. maybe they didn't "steal" my money. but after buying a premium, all the accessories, two broken consoles, and being told later its not really as premium as i thought, i'll just stick with my trusty PS.
They shouldn't have said that...
Get the best of both worlds like me. Proud owner of elite and 80gig ps3. don't bother with the wii. it gets annoying after a couple plays. and I don't see why people bother with the core when there are all those rumurs about 360 games requiring a hard drive..
What are YOU talking about!?
I love my Nintendo paper weight!
shows how desperate Microsoft is.
People listen, get Wii or PS3. Both are better than unreliable Xbox 360. Dont make Microsoft waste your time. It wasted my time.
I really appreciate your intelligent unbiasd remarks.
I also appreaciate having a VIDEO GAME console that has games to play on it.
Yes everyone. THIS is how you lose bubbles. Take note.
Nice try... but before a company shows desperation they must first be losing... didn't you see yesterday NPD numbers? Ohh wait.. you though it was a very bad nightmware. well it was not... They didn't lie... every Xbox 360 sold will most likely be a PS3 that will not be sold. Many people can't aford both consoles for a while.
"Both are better than unreliable Xbox 360" I don't know if you noticed... but the RROD news are slowing down. Problems with the new SKU like the elite are rare... How long are you planing on using that lame excuse?
I don't know in what dream world you live in... but in the next following months... with all the AAA titles hitting the xbox 360, price drop, PS3 back to $600, PS3 AAA titles getting 6 and 7 out of 10... Desperation... is not one thing that you will see from Microsoft. at least until Metal Gear or Final Fantasy are released.
at least some fella agreed with my comment.
becasue hey why listen to a real gamer when you can listen to a narrow minded fanboy, boy golly what should i choose?
Btw its a joke.
makes me laugh when some idiots "disagreed" with my second comment.
Microsoft is absolutely desperate....they have a 360 barely beating PS3 in the U.S by 11,000 units (but losing in the world-wide race for the past few months.... but wait THAT doesnt matter..)lol. Sony has the PS2,(which is still outselling 360,LMAO!!) the psp, and the mighty PS3 with a long life cycle ahead of it!! I have a 360... I want a PS3... Microsoft blows and only wants your money.. Playstation has always been and will always be the ultimate gaming system. Unless something DRASTIC happens..
EDIT: I wasted my money on Micrsoft too Panix, many people have... I good reliable platform designer just DOES NOT have screwed up systems TWO years after being made...they still willa year from now. haha lmao. The only reason is cuz they were scared and rushed 360 out to try and beat PS3.. they don't have a freakin chance get over it!
So they're probably right.
Big words microsoft....Lets see if you can back it up..
I think... ummm... yep...
They already did... If Sony was not able to sell more console than Microsoft on July when everything was on their favor... what make you think it will be any different starting this month up Christmas... even Sony fanboys know this.
Don't get mad, I'm a MS fan too ^_^
I'm just trying to say those are big words....
and it makes you wonder...
are they keeping something from us...
MS has been the silent child in this genwar...
for them to comeout with this....makes me wonder...
This is Microsoft for crying out loud, they live, breathe, and reap money through competitions. Look at there history, they even took on the governments of America & europe!!!!
Look at Fony's history, they are known for stepping into uncharted territories, but other than that competition wise they are a bunch of vaginas....they have to realize this is not a Dreamcast stunts here.
Then it breaks down. LOL. God MS what the hell you smoking??? Can ya slip me some. ahahahahahahaha
Ah yes. Another one for the glorious ignore list. I feel like Santa except I am not a fat rosy old man who drives a slay proppelled by magic reindeer which are led by a red nose, landing on roofs with no noise and going down chimneys to eat cookies and trample on my new [email protected]
It's hard being in last place..
Funny thing: I own 2 360's and never had a problem with either and I game the hell out these boxes..
I think someone needs to pop in a Disney Blu-ray and just relax.. Mary Poppins perhaps??
On the real mann, eversince I got my 360 last year, I still have it at the place where I first put it at(never budged or anything except for the tray opening &closeing), havent had a problem with it or anything yet. Nadda damm problem.
they better be carefull and not temp sony to drop it price.
I hope Sony falls for it and do that. Just to see microsoft do drop the xbox 360's price once again. Sony drop the price by $100 and Microsoft drop the price by $50 and it undermined the PS3 price drop. Everyone know that If Sony drop the price Microsoft will do the same. Microsoft is more capable of dropping prices than Sony. Xbox 360 cheaper to make and Falcon in assembly lines. Sony do not want to get into a Price drop war with a company like Microsoft with big pockets.
Sony needs to bring AAA titles. They do not have a chance in 2007.. it's a lost case. Sony's should concentrate on bringing delivering.
Stop hyping games like Lair, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword who everyone though was going to get Bioshock-like reviews.. and eventhough Sony fans keep saying those games are great... most people that are not fanboys do ask which games are the best based on reviews. The way I see it... until Final fantasy and Metal Gear are released... things are not looking great on Sony's camp.
I dont think MS would be tempting SONY to do anything...
TO tempt someone is to get them to do something they kinda wanted to do in the first place.
SONY cannot afford to drop the price.
Out of NINTENDO, MICROSOFT and SONY, SONY is in the least capable position to drop the price.
They are still losing more money per console than MS or Nintendo
I hope Sony does drop the price so they both can go back and forth. With any luck the PS3 and the Elite will hit the $300 sweet spot around Christmas if not sooner. I know this is wishful thinking on my part but that would be gaming bliss for me.
Yep, those 120 million PS2 owners are going to be lining up for:
* 50 dollars a year online charges that you have to hunt around every year for deals just to continue to have the privilege of playing games online!
* 250 dollars the online charges add to the price of the system!
* Crappy online service that has no dedicated servers!
* Pathetic online game players counts like 8 for Gears of War or 16 for Halo 3!
* Laggy P2P networking for games!
* Crappy graphics in games like Forza 2 and Halo 3
* Retarded Dreamcast style controller
* Most defective piece of console hardware ever made
* Joke backwards compatiblity
* Pathetic line up of exclusive games, no Metal Gear, no Final Fantasy, no Team ICO, no GT, no God of War, no Ratchet and Clank, no Naughty Dog games, no SOCOM, no Tekken...instead of crappy last gen looking and playing Halo 3 and the latest turds from Rare!
* Too weak to handle 1080p games(except for that one little tennis game on the 360 LOL!)
* No BluRay player, but a stupid and clunkly 200 addon for the dead HD-DVD format!
* Gimped disc storage, only 7 gigs of disc space LOL!
* And never knowing when Microsoft is going to pull the plug on the latest Xbox hardware fiasco like they did last gen
Yep, that 50 bucks is worth all that!
A good portion of your points sound valid. Sony still has their market for ps2, and it will hard to shift those ppl over even to the ps3.
you're actually dead-on with alot of your points. i just hate the way MS did its customers last time and that will always something i'll hold against them.
its only the price that sell the xbox, lets be fair its not the hardware is it! if the ps3 and the xbox were equally priced then microsoft wouldnt stand a chance!
xbox relies on uninformed consumers, by the time you buy all the add on crap, hd drive, wireless kit etc etc etc your basically around the same price!
edit @ JUSTaGAME
your right in some respect, but now they're not just game consoles anymore, both sony and MS call it a 'media centre'! im sure people have bought both for this reason!
A low price helps, but without games, nobody wants one.
Microsoft has games. More games, better games than the competition. Period
ummm i guess the wii has alot of games then .
Maybe they should worry about the ps2 and the wii...instead of the ps3...and you are beating a 500 $ to 800 $ game system barley in worldwide sales...
beating is beating... winning is winning... only losers say, "I almost win... you almost didnt beat me..." which movies is this? "it does not matter if you win by an inch or a mile... winning is winning."
Not bad for a companies with huge bad press about hardware issues. and going head on against the Playstation brand. Compare the success of the original Xbox to the 360... Sony was not able to beat the xbox 360 during the first year of launch as everyone was predicting.... and it seems it will not do it in another year.
@Sashy - "hen have Ps3 talked sh*t about you?!" can you say that with a straigh face... Sony is knowing to always talk against Microsoft and the Xbox 360... they even treated the xbox 360 as non-existent... and always dancing their victory dance.
I will never buy any of your gaming consoles!
And you are so damn f*cked up, all you do is talking sh*t about Ps3! When have Ps3 talked sh*t about you?! Never! So grow up MS, whit that attitude you´r gonna lose big time
calm down kid. holy crap.
Sony does their fair share of talking crap about the 360. So just shut your mouth about the 360 being the only one to talk crap, because they arent
end of story..
Sony is the biggest sh*t talkers in the business kid!
I don't know if it is moreso the measly $50 or the Titles coming out that will temp casuals on the fence. We all know there are people on the fence about buying next-gen consoles.
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For the PS3:
-Stronger Gaming Library
For Xbox 360:
-Price(for some, while being cheaper than the PS3)
-Hate for MS in general.
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What MS have got going this fall/winter:
1. Some Stong high-Profile Titles, as well as the potential for AAA status. Bioshock, have been proven, then you have Halo 3, Mass Effect,PG4 and some others.(someone else can list them)
2. Better and much more reliable Consoles with the new design/chips.
3. On the topic of "price-cut" a much cheaper price-point, as opposed to it's "true" competitor the PS3. Sorry Wii.
4. Improved Content on XBL, as well as new Iptv initiatives.
So yeah, if you have been sitting on the Fence and is not a die-hard loyal PS fanatic, you have no reason not to purchase the Xbox 360 this holiday if your a true gamer,(that can afford it) unless you truly hate MS, then thats ok. Look at the comments, they are out there.
Pro and Cons for each platforms. For now the 360 gets my money, so many games I wanna play and yet, I will not be able to buy all of them, so I don't se myself getting a PS3 right now.(the only console I'm missing) then again , I have not been missing much.
Sony was not able to sell more then Microsoft in the united states. and Microsoft seem to forget that this is a long war. they shouldn't have said that, because Sony hasn't even release its big guns yet and it is still selling well. it will have around 5 million units sold at its one year anniversary. And if Microsoft price drop hasn't help them in japan why are they saying that it will take consumer away from the ps3.
i read a story posted on here the other day about a store in japan selling the xbxo360 for £86, thats around $140 and they still DIDNT sell!!
Sony has a console that is 170P+ more than the 360, and PS3 is still selling it more than 2:1. Microsoft is failing in everywhere except North America. Japanese hate the console, and Europeans love Sony. Only some North Americans are dumb enough to buy into the Halo crap, but everywhere else, the XFLOP is, you guessed it! A flop!
360 is the next-gen console of choice for 2007 holidays, July NPD shows this it was surprising and shocking that the PS3 had the $100 price drop and everything going for it that they still couldn't beat the 360s sales, especially coupled with the RROD scandal which was a giant coup for Sony.
is outselling the 360 by a wide margin when you look at worldwide sales, right?
PS3 fanboys say ANYTHING to back up their poor choice of a console. How is the PS3 outselling the 360 worldwide? HOW? Give a link you moron. How can the PS3 outsell the 360 by a "HUGE" margin if the 360 is selling more worldwide per month. Ughh I need a beer. I honestly hate ps3 fanboys
There are 3 main territories: North America, Japan, Europe.
In North America PS3 is getting outsold by 360, but in July by only 12 000.
In Japan PS3 pushed around 80 000+ in July, while 360 did under 10 000. PS3 has sold over 1.3M in Japan, and 360 has sold under 400 000.
David Reeves was just quoted saying, since launch, PS3 has been outselling 360 by more than 2:1, and almost 3:1. Here's the link to the David Reeves interview: http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...
Oh look another stupid comment from Codemonkey's stupid face. And don't you mean a 40.
More crows. And whadya know. A fork! Hmmm.
it's an obvious and believable statement, numb-nuts
but thanks. =]
console market. And people aren't going to pick it up now. The core system is a waste, no one is going to buy that junk. As you will always need to upgrade your hard drive. As for the Ps3, does Microsoft expect the consumer to kick their Ps2 / Ps1 games to the bucket and jump on the 360 bandwagon?
There is a reason why Sony emphasizes backward competitively.
It really isn't doing much new.
Xbox had 2 Halo's and still didn't win.
Xbox had a Forza
Xbox had 2 PGR
Xbox had Xbox Live
Xbox also had its rpg's with KOTOR
Xbox 360's main hyped games are STILL shooters or something to do with the millitary. I don't care what anyone says.
-Gears of War
And it's only gonna ever attract the same crowd. The xbox crowd. IE. the hardcore console gamers. They are not ranging out at all really, and if they do, its with existing franchises that are proven not help much at winning console wars. Thats why when new FANTASTIC, AMAZING ....FPS's!!! come out then console sales don't go up too much because if you're into shooters, you would've got a 360 already for Gears of War. Of course, Halo 3 will be the expception to this rule. The xbox brand lives by Halo
Then add reliability factors, usage of dvd's and the pure fact that the ps3 is really coming into its own. The latest ps3 games have incredible graphics and incredible physics, the likes of which simply can't be done on 360.
I seriously think that most people are after ps3 but its purely the price of it which puts them off. But they will still get it instead of 360
Definitely some valid points there.Xbox still doesn't appeal to me, at most I might get a core model to play two or three games.
not that "pretend" or "con" of a Price drop (SKU shifting) that Sony did.
I think that's a pretty real price drop. Microsoft did some SKU shifting too though; Elite motherboards showing up in Premium SKUs ring a bell?
seriously m$, no.
u hav a 360 for 5 yrs at least, that means it'll cost more than ps3 cos of xbox live subscription...
Why doesn't MS just bundle a hd with the core instead of a price drop? I think thats more important, considering some new games need it to run.
lol their cut price will steal consumer from ps3 just the first week lmao, is that why ps3 is keep outselling 360 worldwide, the only place that 360 can outsell ps3 is NA and wow what about bioshock? a real consoles mover huh
And am not stolen. BS
With a price drop of only 50 some might be tempted but they should lower the price further or at at a game to the xb 360 (halo anyone)
And people call Sony arrogant...
The games are the most important thing that sells consoles, but price matters too. The XBOX is more expensive than a PS3 if you add all the extras. This is something that an average consumer looks past and that's a key in Microsoft's strategy. The more informed gamer does see this, but when it comes to consoles you have to fear fanboyism, that makes it less objective. A console is still way cheaper than a high end PC, but again these are things that only count for the more informed gamer.
I am going for both systems, I have a 360 but it sees less gaming than my playstation. Of course the 360 has more games going for it, but that's only stating the obvious result of an earlier release. But in all honesty, the PS2 releases that came with 360 releases are on par and usually superior to the 360 releases. I must admit, releases like Bioshock are system sellers, but it's still no exclusive. And don't come with Halo 3, it's a shooter that has seen way too much hype.
It has three editions for a single game at the day of the release, it's something that made sure to skip the game from my wish-list. Sure it can be an awesome game, but something with that much hype, is something I wouldn't really use as an argument. So it comes down to this, we're all gamers that know our stuff, so let's look past any fanboyism and be objective when it comes to facts. Sure we have our own preferences and that plays a part, but the truth is, all these things are just sales talk, in the end it’s all about the money. ;)
" But in all honesty, the PS2 releases that came with 360 releases are on par and usually superior to the 360 releases."
I'm definately NOT buying what your selling..
The only major title the X360 has seen so far is Gears of War and this for the users of XBlive Gold. Cause the single player campaign is severely lacking. The X360 has had some other "good" releases: Lost Planet, Forza 2, ... (NOTE! I am here talking about exclusives, although most summed above are getting ported or will be ported on PC or another console in the - near - future.)
In the meanwhile, the PS2 has seen following releases at the time of the X360: Final Fantasy XII, God of War II, Rogue Galaxy, Okami, ... That are many good to awesome titles. I fear you are misguided my friend. ;)
I guess they need something to do to try and justify their overpaid salaries. They all need to be reminded that actions speak louder than words.
As far as MS...if they really want the core to sell then they need to shift the versions down one. New core should include the 20gig drive, give the new Premium the 120gig drive, and to keep the Elite around make it the same as the premium with a Live kit thrown in. If the talk is true about some games requiring a hard drive then they should make it standard this holiday if they want to move units.