Yahoo Review: PlayStation Move - Better than Wii?

Yahoo: Sony’s answer to Nintendo Wii arrives 17 September, promising greater accuracy and augmented reality in high definition. It is costly however, and lacks a killer app.

So the short answer is that, technically speaking, this new motion-sensing kit for PlayStation 3 is an improvement over Nintendo Wii. But as with any explanation that requires the words ‘technically speaking’ before getting to the details, PlayStation Move comes with a barrel load of caveats.

[ThePlaystationFour]

Both, Wii & Move are by far a better choice then Konnect.

[ingiomar]

Kinect*

Move and Kinect are totally different Move is better with hardcore games while Kinect is better with casual games

Kinect won't go hardcore unless developers come up with a way to make it work

[darthv72]

Not sure if for now MS is requiring those who want to have kinect support in their game make it a kinect only game. As if to say that there will be a time where we will have the hybrid games of controller/kinect support.

One thing is certain, both move and kinect might not be the main focus for playing your games this gen but come next gen they will play a much bigger role.

[mikeslemonade]

Yahoo news is stupid. I don't think I ever read a quality written and researched article from them. Yahoo Sports is good though.

[PimpHandHappy]

Move and Kinect are totally different Move is better with hardcore games while Kinect is better with casual games

Wii says hi

i guess we will wait and see. Reviews will be interesting for Kinect games when you consider what we have all seen so far and the lengths MS has gone to hiding it from real gaming sites

[WeaseL]

Yes, Kinect is good for casual games but Move is great for both hardcore and casual games.

Move wins

[Longrod_Von_Hugendon]

@Ingiomar

Prove your argument by posting up video illustrating how well Kinect preforms with casual games. I'll wait.

Kinect is DOA and you won't be hearing much about this gen let along the next one.

[aceofspades]

buying move

[Keltik82]

Dude, Kinect is NOT better for casual games. The Tech Demo they released has proven that.

[knightdarkbox]

PS Move will usually always have lag in it, because it uses a camera to track your movement. A camera can't do everything in real time so there will be a split millisecond lag. Wiimote on the other hand, does everything in real time. Only thing keeping it from being true 1:1 is the in game animations.

[mac_sparrow]

Lucky this is N4G and not an episode of QI.

Not mentioning general ignorance at all ;)

[blizzard_cool]

You think that the wii works on magic?

[Misterhbk]

The camera is the reason it works better than Wii. That and the tracking ball on the end of the wand. The camera can track much more efficiently than the Wii can even hope for.

One thing you are correct on is the fact that there will ALWAYS be lag. Even a television has lag, but the Move works so well that our eyes wont even be able to notice the lag because like you said it will be around a split millisecond. That's faster than you can blink. Move works. Period. Day one for me.

[jerethdagryphon]

uh both wimote and a camera use optical systems both are limited to speed of light and by thw way

thats 182348? mps

wimote isnt instant but its so close you dont notice it
unless the ey has a massive transmission overhead or calculating a butload of data its as fast

[darthv72]

While I believe both kinect and move are the after thoughts of their respected platforms. That will NOT be the same next gen.

As I recall, there were reports back in the cube days of nintendo working on a motion controller. They chose not to release it for the cube and instead went forward in making the controller the integral part of the next system instead of an addon.

Both sony and MS are taking the addon approach for now but I can almost guarantee that come next gen both will play a focal point in how we play those games.

[tdogg06051991]

A wireless controller has the same lag

[karl]

since when does the wii track anything?
i thought it only detected the direction of your movements..
just like a bit more advanced six axis

and move its better on casual and hardcore games than kinect

[CombatEvolving]

The wiimote is not motion control, its waggle control. Move uses real movement to control games. Have fun flailing to play "sports".

[shoddy]

you dare to compare lag with wii and move?

[EskiJoe]

No information can be transmitted faster than the speed of light. (Unless we are talking about quantum mechanics i.e. quantum entanglement)... In short: there will always be lag, no matter what the device.

The difference is in the observable lag, which can be caused by additional computation required by the device.

[kneon]

Clearly you don't understand how the technology works. The camera is only part of the solution. But the camera runs at 60fps so even if only the camera were used then you would have an average latency of 8.3ms with a maximum of 16.6ms. But that is just for the camera capture, the data needs to be transferred to the console and processed to produce positional data.

But there is also the motion sensors that are used to give more frequent positional data. That is not tied to the camera capture rate. This data is used to estimate the position of the controller relative to it's last known position. Without the camera this method would eventually get too inaccurate as the errors would accumulate over time. But 60 times a second the camera checks the actual position so that it can never get too far off from reality.

Think of it as navigating via dead reckoning, and every once in a while you break out the GPS to find out where you really are as opposed to where you think you are.

[Pennywise]

lay off the drugs son.

[weazel]

"PS Move will usually always have lag in it, because it uses a camera to track your movement."............... .
So where does that leave the purely camera based Kinect?

[Longrod_Von_Hugendon]

@Knightdarkbox

You don't even have the slightest clue.

[moparful99]

I get the feeling you are just trolling considering you're a lifetime member of the "One Bubble Club" But I will humor you none the less.. Move has a huge advantage over the wii. This advantage is the camera, not to mention the insanely powerful cell processor at its disposal. Whereas the wii uses an IR bar and the only motion sensing that it has is gestured based. Wii can only detect movements via an accelerometer and a gyroscope.. It utilizes very basic motion detection like what the iphone has and then translates this into pre canned animations on screen... Move allows for a broad range of realistic motions because it uses the camera in conjunction with an accelerometer and gyroscopes inside the controller itself.. Yes lag is present in every form of video game input.. Even the dualshock 3 has lag but its soo minute the human brain cannot interpret that lag.. So you're little rant is completely off base and rather laughable... MOVE along...

[Vip3r]

In all my days of being on gaming websites, I've just bumped into my first wii fanboy.

I never thought they actually existed but now I guess they do.

[mcnablejr]

play station four.

grow up kid.

btw, plz link your kinnect reviews that you must have seen.

[Longrod_Von_Hugendon]

Needs more titles(those are coming) and some kinks to be worked out.

Sony has a hit on it's hands with the Move ...and things are only going to get better.

IGN 8.5
http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

[-Mezzo-]

i have had it pre-ordered on Amazon, and the reason for it is that Games such as Killzone 3, inFamous 2, RE5, Heavy Rain, LBP2, Socom 4 etc... are supporting the Move, Since i was going to buy these game any way, why not try something new & play those games with Move.

[mac_sparrow]

Exactly why I have preordered it too, but I decided to get sports champions for me and the missus to have something to use them with for now.

Oh and those who want to try to downplay the move, let me eat up your first joke...

"Why do you need sports champions to play the move with your missus? Surely you can use it as a dildo without a game to go with it?"

Wow, emulating those people has just made me feel the funniest I've felt in my whole life.

[BabyTownFrolics]

if move is more accurate and adds to the level immersion then I will give it a shot. If it ends up just being an alternative to a regular controller then I will pass.

but I dont but any hardware day one without getting my hands on it first.

all the videos I have seen using move with MAG do not impress me

[mac_sparrow]

Testing it is certainly a good idea.

[raztad]

This Killer App stuff is so 2008. Each released game had an article asking if the PS3 finally got its killer app. Funny, nobody ask that anymore. Too many killer apps now, I guess.

MOVE is being released, the potential is there and support is coming. In a week I'll be playing MAG with it.

"We’re going to say that PlayStation Move as a hardware proposition deserves a chin-stroking 4 out of 5. If you already own a PlayStation 3 it's worth investigating for party options and enhancements to future blockbuster games. But if you just want to waggle get a Wii."

I have to disagree with that poor recommendation. Too much spin from Yahoo! It is like recommend to buy a dvd player (instead of BD) if you just want to watch movies.

[OrganicMachine]

I kinda agree with their last sentence..

Move is still brand new and teh software line-up is building.. but the potential is there, especially for RTS games..

the accuracy sold me.. .If I just want to waggle,I would've had a wii since day 1.. but no, I don't like to waggle my wrist

[Dance]

better hardware not software

[himdeel]

...because the consensus from the "reviewers" is that the software isn't that great.

[EskiJoe]

Hard to argue about something that is subjective. Some might say that Tetris is a great software others might say that KillZone 2 is a great software... But in the end better hardware opens the possibility to more sophisticated (as in graphics) software/games. It lies in the hands of the developers to create awsome games...

I might add that I look forward to seeing games that are Move enabled for example KillZone 3 :D

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Is the Next Generation of Motion Gaming for Casual and Hardcore Gamers.

[xstation79]

I find it funny how you playstation fans prefer psn over live because its free, even though live is clearly better. Yet you want move because its better than the wii, yet it cost more

[ALFAxD_CENTAURO]

Another multiple account from the same old troll =(.

[OrganicMachine]

r you gonna bitch and moan to your mom and dad to pay for the now $60 live fee?

[xstation79]

n4g deserves a better class of trolls and I'm going to give it to them

[alb1899]

Both (kinect and move) are made for casual games the developers need time to make core games and they will but the reason for both is to catch the attention of wii's base clients.
For now Kinect has more opportunity in casual games than move because if i have a Wii there is no way that i will buy a move maybe is better to try something new than just make an upgrade that will be very expensive.

[southernbanana]

Since the PS3 is better than the Wii Hardware wise why wouldn't it's updated version be better? I like my Wii but it has never got me as excited about future games like Kinect and Move do..

[ArchangelMike]

From the article - "Is PlayStation Move better than Nintendo Wii? Technically yes but emotionally no."

What the fcuk does that mean - "emotionally"?! The playstation Move IS emotionally better than the wii - why? Well because the games offered by Move are more emotionally involving (I'm not talkng about the usual shovelware) - look at games like Heavy Rain for example.

I rest my case!

[gamerben]

I personally think it won't sell for one reason: All casual gamers have a wii already.

[strickers]

This nonsense about Wii being easy to set up and working well.I find it does not always register button pushes and on games like Super Mario Galaxy1 and 2 when I need a pointer,I need to stand and step forward.I sit at 10 ft away and the sensor bar does not work properly.