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Yahoo Review: PlayStation Move - Better than Wii?

Yahoo: Sony’s answer to Nintendo Wii arrives 17 September, promising greater accuracy and augmented reality in high definition. It is costly however, and lacks a killer app.

So the short answer is that, technically speaking, this new motion-sensing kit for PlayStation 3 is an improvement over Nintendo Wii. But as with any explanation that requires the words ‘technically speaking’ before getting to the details, PlayStation Move comes with a barrel load of caveats.

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ThePlaystationFour5414d ago

Both, Wii & Move are by far a better choice then Konnect.

ingiomar5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

Kinect*

Move and Kinect are totally different Move is better with hardcore games while Kinect is better with casual games

Kinect won't go hardcore unless developers come up with a way to make it work

darthv725414d ago

Not sure if for now MS is requiring those who want to have kinect support in their game make it a kinect only game. As if to say that there will be a time where we will have the hybrid games of controller/kinect support.

One thing is certain, both move and kinect might not be the main focus for playing your games this gen but come next gen they will play a much bigger role.

mikeslemonade5414d ago

Yahoo news is stupid. I don't think I ever read a quality written and researched article from them. Yahoo Sports is good though.

PimpHandHappy5414d ago

Move and Kinect are totally different Move is better with hardcore games while Kinect is better with casual games

Wii says hi

i guess we will wait and see. Reviews will be interesting for Kinect games when you consider what we have all seen so far and the lengths MS has gone to hiding it from real gaming sites

WeaseL5414d ago

Yes, Kinect is good for casual games but Move is great for both hardcore and casual games.

Move wins

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5414d ago

@Ingiomar

Prove your argument by posting up video illustrating how well Kinect preforms with casual games. I'll wait.

Kinect is DOA and you won't be hearing much about this gen let along the next one.

Keltik825414d ago

Dude, Kinect is NOT better for casual games. The Tech Demo they released has proven that.

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knightdarkbox5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

PS Move will usually always have lag in it, because it uses a camera to track your movement. A camera can't do everything in real time so there will be a split millisecond lag. Wiimote on the other hand, does everything in real time. Only thing keeping it from being true 1:1 is the in game animations.

mac_sparrow5414d ago

Lucky this is N4G and not an episode of QI.

Not mentioning general ignorance at all ;)

blizzard_cool5414d ago

You think that the wii works on magic?

Misterhbk5414d ago

The camera is the reason it works better than Wii. That and the tracking ball on the end of the wand. The camera can track much more efficiently than the Wii can even hope for.

One thing you are correct on is the fact that there will ALWAYS be lag. Even a television has lag, but the Move works so well that our eyes wont even be able to notice the lag because like you said it will be around a split millisecond. That's faster than you can blink. Move works. Period. Day one for me.

jerethdagryphon5414d ago

uh both wimote and a camera use optical systems both are limited to speed of light and by thw way

thats 182348? mps

wimote isnt instant but its so close you dont notice it
unless the ey has a massive transmission overhead or calculating a butload of data its as fast

darthv725414d ago

While I believe both kinect and move are the after thoughts of their respected platforms. That will NOT be the same next gen.

As I recall, there were reports back in the cube days of nintendo working on a motion controller. They chose not to release it for the cube and instead went forward in making the controller the integral part of the next system instead of an addon.

Both sony and MS are taking the addon approach for now but I can almost guarantee that come next gen both will play a focal point in how we play those games.

tdogg060519915414d ago

A wireless controller has the same lag

karl5414d ago

since when does the wii track anything?
i thought it only detected the direction of your movements..
just like a bit more advanced six axis

and move its better on casual and hardcore games than kinect

CombatEvolving5414d ago

The wiimote is not motion control, its waggle control. Move uses real movement to control games. Have fun flailing to play "sports".

shoddy5414d ago

you dare to compare lag with wii and move?

EskiJoe5414d ago

No information can be transmitted faster than the speed of light. (Unless we are talking about quantum mechanics i.e. quantum entanglement)... In short: there will always be lag, no matter what the device.

The difference is in the observable lag, which can be caused by additional computation required by the device.

kneon5414d ago

Clearly you don't understand how the technology works. The camera is only part of the solution. But the camera runs at 60fps so even if only the camera were used then you would have an average latency of 8.3ms with a maximum of 16.6ms. But that is just for the camera capture, the data needs to be transferred to the console and processed to produce positional data.

But there is also the motion sensors that are used to give more frequent positional data. That is not tied to the camera capture rate. This data is used to estimate the position of the controller relative to it's last known position. Without the camera this method would eventually get too inaccurate as the errors would accumulate over time. But 60 times a second the camera checks the actual position so that it can never get too far off from reality.

Think of it as navigating via dead reckoning, and every once in a while you break out the GPS to find out where you really are as opposed to where you think you are.

weazel5414d ago

"PS Move will usually always have lag in it, because it uses a camera to track your movement."............... .
So where does that leave the purely camera based Kinect?

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5414d ago

@Knightdarkbox

You don't even have the slightest clue.

moparful995414d ago

I get the feeling you are just trolling considering you're a lifetime member of the "One Bubble Club" But I will humor you none the less.. Move has a huge advantage over the wii. This advantage is the camera, not to mention the insanely powerful cell processor at its disposal. Whereas the wii uses an IR bar and the only motion sensing that it has is gestured based. Wii can only detect movements via an accelerometer and a gyroscope.. It utilizes very basic motion detection like what the iphone has and then translates this into pre canned animations on screen... Move allows for a broad range of realistic motions because it uses the camera in conjunction with an accelerometer and gyroscopes inside the controller itself.. Yes lag is present in every form of video game input.. Even the dualshock 3 has lag but its soo minute the human brain cannot interpret that lag.. So you're little rant is completely off base and rather laughable... MOVE along...

Vip3r5414d ago

In all my days of being on gaming websites, I've just bumped into my first wii fanboy.

I never thought they actually existed but now I guess they do.

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mcnablejr5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

play station four.

grow up kid.

btw, plz link your kinnect reviews that you must have seen.

Longrod_Von_Hugendon5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

Needs more titles(those are coming) and some kinks to be worked out.

Sony has a hit on it's hands with the Move ...and things are only going to get better.

IGN 8.5
http://ps3.ign.com/articles...

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-Mezzo-5414d ago

i have had it pre-ordered on Amazon, and the reason for it is that Games such as Killzone 3, inFamous 2, RE5, Heavy Rain, LBP2, Socom 4 etc... are supporting the Move, Since i was going to buy these game any way, why not try something new & play those games with Move.

mac_sparrow5414d ago

Exactly why I have preordered it too, but I decided to get sports champions for me and the missus to have something to use them with for now.

Oh and those who want to try to downplay the move, let me eat up your first joke...

"Why do you need sports champions to play the move with your missus? Surely you can use it as a dildo without a game to go with it?"

Wow, emulating those people has just made me feel the funniest I've felt in my whole life.

BabyTownFrolics5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

if move is more accurate and adds to the level immersion then I will give it a shot. If it ends up just being an alternative to a regular controller then I will pass.

but I dont but any hardware day one without getting my hands on it first.

all the videos I have seen using move with MAG do not impress me

mac_sparrow5414d ago

Testing it is certainly a good idea.

raztad5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

This Killer App stuff is so 2008. Each released game had an article asking if the PS3 finally got its killer app. Funny, nobody ask that anymore. Too many killer apps now, I guess.

MOVE is being released, the potential is there and support is coming. In a week I'll be playing MAG with it.

"We’re going to say that PlayStation Move as a hardware proposition deserves a chin-stroking 4 out of 5. If you already own a PlayStation 3 it's worth investigating for party options and enhancements to future blockbuster games. But if you just want to waggle get a Wii."

I have to disagree with that poor recommendation. Too much spin from Yahoo! It is like recommend to buy a dvd player (instead of BD) if you just want to watch movies.

OrganicMachine5414d ago

I kinda agree with their last sentence..

Move is still brand new and teh software line-up is building.. but the potential is there, especially for RTS games..

the accuracy sold me.. .If I just want to waggle,I would've had a wii since day 1.. but no, I don't like to waggle my wrist

Dance5414d ago

better hardware not software

himdeel5414d ago

...because the consensus from the "reviewers" is that the software isn't that great.

EskiJoe5414d ago (Edited 5414d ago )

Hard to argue about something that is subjective. Some might say that Tetris is a great software others might say that KillZone 2 is a great software... But in the end better hardware opens the possibility to more sophisticated (as in graphics) software/games. It lies in the hands of the developers to create awsome games...

I might add that I look forward to seeing games that are Move enabled for example KillZone 3 :D

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PlayStation Move Controller Used to Perform Surgery on a Pig That Was 5,780 Miles Away

A group of surgeons made headlines after they managed to perform an endoscopic procedure on a pig located in Hong Kong by using PlayStation controllers. It involved the use of a PS5 DualSense controller as well as a PlayStation Move controller.

jznrpg259d ago

There is at least a few good jokes that could come from that title

Cacabunga258d ago

Yet another powerful device Sony gave up supporting. KZ3 move was one of the best motion controller implementation ever

just_looken258d ago

Right the ps move was awesome i have the gun thing from killzone still.

Relientk77259d ago

That's really cool. It's crazy something like that is possible with gaming controllers 1000's of miles away.

Lexreborn2258d ago

Guess that submarine should’ve used move controllers instead of logitech

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anast258d ago

PlayStation is saving lives and releasing the best games.

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Air Conflicts: Secret Wars - PlayStation Move's Best Kept Secret

Air Conflicts: Secret Wars debuted in 2011, and later updated for modern consoles. However, it's the PlayStation 3 edition that stands out.

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Why the PlayStation Move Failed

Sony's PlayStation Move may not have been able to contend with Nintendo's Wii, but it paved the way for PlayStation VR's success story.

SullysCigar1387d ago

I use them most days and have for years 🤷🏻‍♂️

They're definitely way past a needed update, but I've got a tonne of fun out of them, so they haven't failed me.

bouzebbal1387d ago

The best motion control platform it's so intuitive.. Died due to lack of support from Sony.. It had some amazing games

thorstein1387d ago

They are used constantly for PSVR games. So, no they haven't failed. Neither has PSVR (or VR in general.)

Bigman4k1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

The article was talking about why it ps move failed before psvr came along

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1388d ago

It failed because it sucked plain and simple.

LOGICWINS1388d ago

I feel that's a bit harsh. To this day, playing Killzone 3's campaign with PS Move/Sharpshooter gun combo is the most fun/immersive experience I've ever had with an FPS.

I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be, but it didn't "suck".

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1388d ago

It most definitely sucked. You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible. The entire motion control fad was a waste of resources and time. Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it...

Minute Man 7211388d ago

@SPEAK

The Move was better that the Wii mote. If the Wii was anywhere accurate as the Move was you could say the Wii was better. Sure it sold boatloads but was it really played consistently??

yeahokwhatever1388d ago

I played it in 3D with the move gun on a 100 inch projector and it BLEW MY MIND. I was exhausted, but i finished the campaign standing there.

SullysCigar1387d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming"

Just no. Games release most weeks (for years now) that support Move controllers. Some ONLY use Move controllers.

Look, I get you're not a fan, but if you're going to rant, at least inform yourself in advance.

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LordoftheCritics1388d ago

I would say both Move and Kinect weren't supported properly.

Sony and MS abandoned what could have been amazing.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1388d ago

Kinect sucked too. I would say Kinect may have been cool had it worked as intended but it was ahead of it's time. Both Kinect and Move are gimmicks nothing more. I honestly don't see why Sony still implements "motion controls" recent controllers. Who really uses that crap? And to play what?

Profchaos1388d ago

I so t think Sony abandoned the move it's technically repurposed and still supported on the ps5 just for VR

RedDevils1387d ago

Kinect should be kept as media interactive features.

LordoftheCritics1388d ago (Edited 1388d ago )

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH
Again if it was supported right.

Where even a fast click of my fingers could get an immediate in game response.

It feels trash because we have been shown or lived with bad versions of gesture based tech. Think Minority Report fast. That could be something.

''You people can act like it was something special all you want but it was horrible.''

No one is acting like it was special, I said it could be amazing.

''I think Move was simply not as profitable as Sony wanted it to be''

Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game and then we can discuss profits.

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1388d ago

I don't deal in "what if". It wasn't supported right and even if it was it was still a gimmick.

thorstein1387d ago

"Like I said, it wasnt supported. Give us a AAA game with precision gestures well implemented into the game"

You just described every AAA PSVR game. And even the indies have incredible integration. No Man's Sky VR is insanely good.

Silly gameAr1388d ago

And, you can act like it was horrible, but I had a blast with my Move. I had the whole collection of House of the Dead, Dead Space Extraction, and RE Darkside Cronicles, The Fight, and Socom 4, and I would play the hell out of those games I even beat a playthrough of the Resistance 3 campaign with the Move. Getting drunk and playing with friends was a freaking blast.

You can pretend that you had a move and played it all you want SPeak the Truth, but it was accurate, and usually on point. I hate when people act like they've played something just to trash it, when they really just have a vendetta, and think the Move is easy prey for your hate.

Minute Man 7211388d ago

Wait you can play Dead Space with the Move?? I need it

Orchard1388d ago

“You can pretend that you had a move”

I love this crazy idea that if someone has something bad to say about hardware/software - they must be lying about owning it and clearly do not own it!

Because all hardware and software has a 100% approval rating from all purchasers…

P_Bomb1388d ago (Edited 1388d ago )

Shoot I forgot about Dead Space Extraction and Umbrella Chronicles. Had those too. Still do (digital).

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1388d ago

I have a vendetta against Move? Lmao that's the most ridiculous comment I've read today. I didn't buy it because like I said motion controls are gimmicks. I had a Wii and it was decent enough but a gimmick although successful. I had a Kinect and it too was trash. Don't act as if you know what I have and haven't owned. Move was nothing more than a Wiimote ripoff

yeahokwhatever1388d ago

SO MANY really great experiences for the Move. The Fight was excellent!

Silly gameAr1387d ago (Edited 1387d ago )

@Minute Man

There was a game called Dead Space Extraction that you could play the Move with.

@Orchard. Please don't reply to me, because every time I say something to you, I magically end up restricted. So, just ignore me like I ignore you, so there will be no hurt feelings, please.

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Vanfernal1388d ago

"Ever single motion controller besides the Wii failed and is no longer being used today in gaming. It's ok to admit it..."

That is demostrably false.... Most VR games have motion controls and the PSVR uses the Move controllers.

SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1388d ago (Edited 1388d ago )

VR games have a controller most of the time not some magic wand. And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect. I'm not a fan of VR either. A controller and a couch is all I need for my gaming needs.

Vanfernal1387d ago

@SPEAKxTHExTRUTH

"And VR is not the same as PS move or Kinect."

PSVR LITERALLY uses the Move controllers. Now it's just obvious you have no idea what you're talking about. You're saying Move failed and nobody uses it anymore when it's an integral part of PSVR and is still being used in 2021.

ScootaKuH1388d ago

It didn't suck. It worked but the games just weren't there, that's why it failed.

Father__Merrin1387d ago

The move was excellent it was 1 to 1 precise time crisis was a joy to play aswell as sports champions it didn't hit mainstream as it was an addon unlike Nintendo wiimote

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Godmars2901388d ago

Lack of games that proved the concept that 3rd parties could then copy en masse?

Silly Mammo1387d ago

I wish that someone would have made a proper boxing game. I still have a blast with the Sports Champions boxing, but to have a boxing game that was more in-depth would have been awesome.

Dario_DC1387d ago

Try Creed for PSVR, it's brilliant

OMGitzThatGuy1388d ago

Because it was a uninspired ripoff of the Wii controller without the Nintendo library to back it and didn't try to put any real effort into development such as getting their top developers to make games for it and instead gave tech demos disguised as games to their least talented developers so the best can focus on single player only games.

Ryushaa1388d ago

Except the Move was an idea roughly implemented in the PS2. Yes, I'm serious.
Just search on youtube: PlayStation 2 - Motion Controller (2004)

Nonetheless, just like the whole Wii, it was more of a gimmick than a proper input evolution in games.

jukins1388d ago

Exactly. Its funny time and time again sony is the first innovate. Often at its own peril. Like your example the move started on ps2 taken advantage of by nintendo. Sony buys gakai for game streaming only for other companies to overtake them.

Profchaos1388d ago

Are you talking about the gametrak on os2 which used strings to track your hand position I used to have this and a gold game it was awesome but the game itself sucked if it had integration with tiger woods or something it would be way better the tracking was excellent even back then as it wasn't using guesswork.
However the game was very forgiving and no way to turn it harder and no licensed players or courses hurt it.

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yeahokwhatever1388d ago

99% of the Wii's games were "shovelware", in fact, I think thats what started that phrase..

EvertonFC1388d ago

Socom, killzone, resistance and tiger wood 14 were great with the move but agree lacked more games.

yeahokwhatever1388d ago

There were plenty of games and I'm glad that not every game became a Move game.

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