Valve: "We Would Like Cross Platform Between PC & PS3"

Alex from GamesOnSmash.com writes "On the recent episode of GTTV, the entire show was basically dedicated to Valve with announcements of new DLC for L4D, Portal 2 info and the unveiling of Portal 2's co-op.

During an interview with Eric, Product Manager for Valve, Geoff asked a question if Valve would ever connsider cross platform play between PC and PlayStation 3 owners in the near future."

[Wizziokid]

that would be awesome, I hope this does happen.

[Lex_Yayo_407]

Yes it would. Valve is starting to open up more.

[rockleex]

Want to play against mouse and keyboards.

If they do this, they should split the multiplayer into two parts.

[captain-obvious]

im saving up for a new rig
so there is going to be cuts i'll get LPB2 and COD:BO when they first come out and i'll buy GT5 and MOH later down the road
im already saving and hopefully I'll get it by the end of this year

so yah the problem is i dont know if i'll get this game on the PS3 or PC
im still confused
but most likely get it on PC i really dont know

so yah
its super savings for me from now tell the end of this year
you guys wish me luck

[WeaseL]

mouse and keyboard V Move would be a closer battle

[Redempteur]

@rockleex
thank god the ps3 has upto 4 usb ports so you can use a beyboard and a mouse(usb) if you feel cheated
And besides if they do this it's not like you'll be foreced to play against pc player it's just another option for multiplayer

[InfectedDK]

Amazing Valve!
Just make an icon showing PS3 only or PC&PS3 server so people who don't wanna meet others with keyboard and mouse can do that..
This is great. I'm looking forward to see what games will come.

[nix]

FINALLY I CAN COMMENT!!! THAT'S WHY WE NEED 'OPEN ZONE'...

but having said that - it would be cool!!! i need to start practicing so that i can beat Conloles and 5000 card guy!!! lol.

AND EDIT!!! YAY!!! FIIIIIIVEEEE BUBBBLEEEEEESSSSSSSSSS...

[deafwing]

... can't the devs just create the ps3 version to use a mouse and keyboard and solve this silly argument all together?

[MicroSony4Life]

I think wont let it happen because of the hacking scare that they have been getting.

I can see where hacker would use this a some time of portal to hack the PS3.

[RedDragan]

PS3 can already do Keyboard and Mouse.

It is up to the Devs to implement it into the PS3 games, UT3 did it.

Infact, PS1 did it. There was even an official Playstation Mouse sold by Sony, it is what I used to play X-Com in 1997 (I think it was 1997). So I see no reason why PS3 players cannot go up against PC players on an equal footing.

Plus.... a new release of the Playstation Mouse and a release of a Playstation Keyboard would be great money for Sony. I bet alot of PC-only gamers would make a move over to play Killzone 2 and Killzone 3 should Sony do an update for Mouse and Keyboard support.

[nickjkl]

ps3 already has mouse and keyboard support

its usually how i type messages use the web browser tpye on home and navigate the xmb

[Pandemic]

"We Would Like Cross Platform Between PC & PS3"

Consideration between PC and PS3 but no Xbox 360? Looks like they'll be left out to play by themselves.

[Quagmire]

I'm sorry, I couldnt resist:

[comp_ali]

that's because Microsft won't let them uses steamworks on X360. Just the PC and the PS3 version will have steamwors support.

[DA_SHREDDER]

Now thats more like it Valve. Thanks Gabe.

[Def Warrant]

I agree praise must be given when due.

[ThanatosDMC]

Now if they can only hook my Steam account with my PSN... i dont want to have to pay twice for the same game after all.

[TABSF]

Steam play

You purchase a game on PC and you get the Mac version Free
You purchase a game on Mac and you get the PC version Free

I would expect the game for PS3

[pr0digyZA]

you would probably have the same account name and password I would think.

[mistajeff]

oh man, steam play with ps3 inclusion would be so f**king sweet

[ChickeyCantor]

But they still want you to pay for the work that went into the ps3 version.

[mistajeff]

yeah but i'd gladly pay the extra $10 for the ps3 disc version if steamplay let me download a copy to my PC. especially for co-op-- i have people on both pc and ps3 that i'd play the hell out of co-op with.

[il-mouzer]

@mistajeff

you can't be logged on the same steam account of different machines at the same time

plus, I sure do not want to cash out another 10euros to pay SONY for their frigging license, even though I don't want to play portal on my ps3

[JoelR]

@rockleex

you do know that the PS3 supports Keyboard and Mouse right?
UT and other games use it.

[raztad]

This cross-platform talk is very interesting and somehow supports the speculation about a Steam powered PSN.

Regarding the cross platform itself, most likely they are talking about COOP, like in L4D and probably in Portal 2. I dont think it is even possible to do VERSUS, and it is not just DPAD vs Kb/m balancing, but uncapped PC framerates vs locked framerate on consoles. I wouldnt like to compete against some guys running at twice my framerate.

[xYLeinen]

Got pretty pumped when I heard this on GTTV today. This is actually something they can achieve as well compared to cross platform between ps3 and xbox 360 which got no chance what so ever.

Once they get steam on the PS3 I think we will see many changes that we did except and didn't. And if we got a fps cross platform provided by Valve between PS3 and PC we could finally settle the rivalry score once for all :p

[El-Fenemeno1213]

if they can achieve this, idk i can't describe it. Simply put i guess it would be amazing

[dredgewalker]

That would be so cool, that means tons of other players to play with. I can't wait for this to happen! If Valve can make this happen I will never ever make fat Gabe jokes ever again!

[-MD-]

The PC players would completely destroy the console players.

Don't tell me they won't because I will bet you anything a mouse will beat a controller 10 times out of 10. However! Because of this I hope it does happen as I play all my Valve games on Steam.

Edit: @xYLeinen - No doubt there are some seriously skilled console gamers out there. Even I think I could take some PC guys myself with a controller but I was speaking on completely level terms. Skill for skill a mouse will beat a controller in speed and accuracy. The best PC gamer will no doubt beat the best console gamer. Not to mention almost all console games have auto-aim as default and people have become used to it.

Just watch a couple videos of pro PC tournaments on youtube and then compare them to.. say pro Halo tournaments or whatever the go-to PS3 fps is. The stuff PC guys pull off would seem RIDICULOUS to do on a controller. Shadow Run was proof of this. The guys on PC slaughtered the 360 guys hands down and because of this the game died off almost entirely on 360 shortly after release.

[xYLeinen]

I thought that too.

But if you watch some guys from optic nation playing on their xbox 360 (MW2) I don't think it's certain that a PC player would win necessarily. They are pretty damn skilled and their reaction with a controller is pretty damn accurate.

So put the best PC players up against the best console players in a capture the flag match or so and I think the results would surprise you.

[reaferfore20]

You forget they can add KB+M support very easily.

[JoelR]

Yes - it has been done before (see UT)
keyboard Mouse support is integrated into the PS3 OS and can be easily attached by the developer.

[nix]

what about Move? that's way better than controller, any day.

[Orange Juice]

Yea as said above they may just add KB/m support for the Ps3 like in UTIII for the people that fear imbalance. UTIII has proven to me however that controllers can indeed contend with KB/m if used correctly.
And maybe the Co oP will be cross platform in which case the KB/m argument wouldn't matter. This is good news to me personally having so many pc friends along with Ps3 friends.

[cdland]

So no auto aim for ps3... lol :D

[mayberry]

I remember playing ut3 and in the lobby it asked if you wanted ps servers or pc servers or both! Didnt it? its been a while since i've played! still remember the awesome sayings they said in game after the kills! " human flesh... ...it's makin me hunnngggryyyy!" CLASSIC!

<EDIT> If EPIC could do this, can't valve? just askin!

[chak_]

no it didn't.

They had m/kb support, and servers for them, but not crossplateform

[Soldierone]

nope Epic wanted crossplatform play too, but they were restricted. Something about hardware and networks not working together, and something about Sony not letting PC players play on PSN etc...

What you saw is Mouse/KB servers or controller servers, or both.

[JohnApocalypse]

This stuff would work for Co-op but not for competitive multiplayer

[Wizziokid]

I agree PC gamers would have the upper hand.

[xxxKilAxxx]

I was thinking the same thing.

[chak_]

I don't want to play with padders.

No offense to be taken, but due to your settings you guys are slow to move and react.

[Strider_X9]

I'm sure Move would be a great controller to use against a mouse and keyboard if it was supported in these games.

Anyway, I think this could be a great idea, and I'm loving Valves approach and attitude towards the PS3.

[TABSF]

Valve have already said that

Move and PS3 3D will not happen with Portal 2 for now but you never know

[kevnb]

it just doesnt work that great for these types of games, its like you would need a third hand to make it work.

[TABSF]

Mouse and Keyboard its all you need :)

[HeroXIV]

For people saying "I wouldn't want to play against M/K players" this is a Co-op game. CO-OP. You don't fight each other. You work together.

But I guess the hope is here that Valve port Counter Strike or something else to PS3 which would be one of the best things ever.

[EL1TE]

That's great news.

I guess not only me but finally i'll be able to play with lots of friends/family, because they don't have a PC.

[Soldierone]

Yeah just wont count on this happening anytime soon.

-Its Valve, they cant be counted on doing anything unless it involves Steam. Even then if they are the ones doing it, the only game id play with it is Portal.

-It was basically tried out before with Unreal Tournement 3. Epic said the same thing, was dedicated to doing it, but ended up only bringing a PC-like experience with keyboard and mouse. They had complications that prevented the cross platform play.

-It will be another company that does it first. Something like DC Universe thats a giant MMO and wants to make money from having the biggest universe. ITs not gonna come from a game like Portal or some other shooter.

[kevnb]

final fantasy 14 will do it fine, just like 11 did. I think 14 will be bigger though.

[Apollyn]

I would love too eat console gamers for breakfast from my PC. But would hare it as a console boy. Would require game tweaking but could be really good aswell!

[D0UbleF_]

That's what CCP Studios has been developping for 4 years already.
Project DUST541, which will connect the world of EvE Online on PC with an FPS on the PS3.
The crossplatform age is coming :)

[AKS]

Are their competitive multiplayer elements to Portal 2? People here keep referring to that, but I've only heard of co-op.

Anyway, I'd love to play Portal 2 with friends on the PSN, as I'm definitely buying it for PC from Steam regardless of what happens.

[ninjagoat]

Id ave no hassle playing against the paders lol think that would be fun. But new security needs to be brought in VAC aint reliabe look at css. Either way if im on my pc or ps3 i wanna play gamers.

NOT HACKERS.

[Nihilism]

PC players to PS3 players

"BOOM HEADSHOT!"

[DigitalAnalog]

Where the controls are too heavy where the mouse may over-track what is needed. After all, the majority of FPS out there with M/K support relies to how fast the reticule could be tracked by mouse.

-End statement

[Nihilism]

There are no shortfalls of a mouse, you can change the dpi ( amount the cursor moves per inch of movement ) while retaining the insane sensitivity that responds to every miniscule movement, gradiants you can never get on a controller, especially when you can adjust the settings in the game itself, with the mouse software, and even on the mouse itself in many cases ( adjusting dpi on the fly ).

There is no justification in which anyone could claim a controller to be more accurate.

@DigitalAnalog

Yeah I find it uncomfortable going lower, a few weeks ago the mouse I was using was 800dpi...I thought it did it's job fine...now I have a 3500dpi mouse set to it's max..I went down to 1800dpi....and it seemed slow as hell. I even tried to use a controller in third person games like batman AA and dead space, even for those games the control was so inaccurate it was like purposely handicapping myself.

[DigitalAnalog]

It's not the mouse that's the issue but the player utilizing it. I don't think I'd be so confortable lowering my mouse sensitivity I'm very accustomed to FPS generally on PC. I'm playing Doom 3 at the moment and if I had the weight of Killzone 2's controls, I would've punched my screen out of sheer agony, especially when enemies do respawn from behind quite cheaply.

Going back to my original comment, wouldn't adjusting the dpi on the mouse make it any less advantageous in a game like Killzone 2 where the analog sticks by default - do not match the speed and accuracy by the mouse?

-End statement

[kevnb]

pc gamers wouldnt even play killzone 2 in its current form for the most part. I dont think console users realize how clunky fps games have gotten on console at times.

[TheBand1t]

Or y'know, it could be equal ground considering there's nothing stopping Valve from putting in KB/M support

[mobijoker]

Awesome idea!I think its going to happen today or tomorrow.
But will it be on windows or mac os or googles rumoured os-that's the question?

[MetricTwo]

So, several people commented that Move might be more competitive vs KB/M. I have to say, I don't think motion controls (at their current level, anyway) could even compete with gamepads, much less a mouse and keyboard. Am I in the minority?

[kevnb]

motion controls are terrible for fps games. I also think the cross platform valve are thinking about isnt what ps3 owners are thinking. PS3 owners seem to think steam is coming to ps3, no just steamworks. Like games for windows live/ xbox live.

[infekt]

I've always said that PC and PS3 have the only bad-boy communities worthy of going head to head. Here to the future!

[blackpanther25]

i don't know how many more times people have to say that.....i see the same damn people coming time and time again saying the sh!t about ps3 vs pc. It's like they want to act deaf(no offence to anyone that is deaf) whenever someone says the ps3 had Keyboard and Mouse support........sorry for my rant....i may have come off a little too strong but after reading 20+ comments of the same thing...i can't take it anymore

[EL1TE]

"No Offence to anyone but PS3 HAS KEYBOARD AND MOUSE SUPPORT"

ROFL, people know PS3 has leyboard and mouse, the problem is that console players keep saying that KB/M combination is worst than a gamepad and is not accurate as PC gamers say, and vice versa. Why so much rant? Use your brain before say anything, please.

"It's like they want to act deaf(no offence to anyone that is deaf) whenever someone says the ps3 had Keyboard and Mouse support"

See? You even pwn yourself with your comments, lmao.

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