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Report: Half Of Xbox 360 Owners Are PlayStation 2 Defects

Gamesthirst writes:

The Xbox 360 launched over five years ago, and although many didn’t expect it to garner as much popularity as any of Sony’s brands, it did. Microsoft apparently knew what they were doing when they decided to launch first, and while Sony was yet beaming with overconfidence over the PS2′s success, they thought nothing MS could do would quench the PS3′s momentum when it launched a year later.
Gamesthirst is not going to beat a dead horse here, but Sony lapsed in the early years of this generation. Microsoft on the other hand has had success in many departments: some of the best selling games are on the Xbox 360, including the Halo franchise and Gears of war, the best online gaming service in Xbox Live, and an install base that now stands at over 3 million more than that of PS3.

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Omega45022d ago

I would say its a lot more than that. Sony is the only one losing marketshare this gen while MS and Nintendo are gaining it. Theres probably a lot of PS2 defects on the Wii side too, at least from the casual PS2 owners.

Sony will have a hard time reaching 100ml with the PS3, let alone 140ml like the PS2.

Chris3995022d ago (Edited 5022d ago )

Any other explanation is just sad.

A recession changed the gaming landscape more than anything else. It was really just a fortuitous alignment of many, random elements (poverty, the Wii factor - and it's frugal pricing, blu-ray diode production issues) that exacerbated this shift.

The future is still unwritten and very much open to change and further disruption. So much of what you say is totally uninformed.

tinybigman5021d ago

why would i defect when i can own both systems which i do like the previous generation before this, and the previous generation before that.

i've always been a multi-system owner from the days of atari/NES why the hell should i start changing now.

i mean come on i got the 360 first because it was the first to market, then when the both PS3/Wii released i got them too. so no i did not defect; i did what i usually do and that's just buy all the consoles so i can play the games that the other systems don't have.

fanboys on all sides make my ears bleed with all the nonsense they speak.

dragon825021d ago

Same here. I have owned pretty much every system ever released in the US. I would be curious to know exactly how many multi console owners tere are out there.

tinybigman5021d ago

well if i was like some of these blind devotees we have on this site i'd be a one console owner, but since i like games so much it's not in my nature to do that.

most of these devotees here would probably be afraid to admit they own both if not all 3 because they would look like complete idiots for all the crap they've said.

i've come to view the fanboys on all sides as something of a cult they'll always follow what the big 3 or their friends to influence them instead of making up their own minds.

Sie5021d ago

Couldn't agree more i've always been a multi-console owner from way back to the Nes/Master System days there is no other way to go.

If i only owned 1 console back then think of the games i would of missed, same goes with today nothing has changed.

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Anon19745022d ago (Edited 5022d ago )

Again, another article using fake VGchartz numbers as it's source. Enough. Vgchartz numbers are off, and not by a little - by millions. There's no excuse for it with the official data readily provided by each company in their investor relations updates.

When making huge leaps in logic based off some numbers you came across, shouldn't you at least make sure those numbers are correct before you jump to your grand conclusions?

This article fails. Do some real research, then write an article.

SIdepocket5021d ago

Get your bubbles up before you cry "fail"

D4RkNIKON5022d ago

Omega, if only I could find the words that would hurt you in a way that only a punch in the face could.

aceofspades5022d ago

went through your comments and their unbelievable, you need help man.

JsonHenry5021d ago

The reason I bought an Xbox is because my PS2s DVD drive broke on me three times. Then I bought an Xbox360 because I really enjoyed xboxlive and the first xbox was rock solid...

Then after 4 years of use my first 360 broke down on me. I purchased another one and then 2 weeks later it broke down on me. Finally got one of those Jasper MB 360s and now I am doing good with no problems.

I did purchase a PS3 in between xboxs though. I probably would have never bought another 360 if the PS3 didnt have such pathetic online capabilities at the time. They have come a long way though.

Christopher5021d ago

***Sony will have a hard time reaching 100ml with the PS3, let alone 140ml like the PS2. ***

That's true of all consoles this gen.

Honestly, everyone is picking up PS2 stragglers. If anything, it's the Wii that has really added the most to the community by picking up those people who never owned a PS2.

Inside_out5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

Sony basically screwed up royalty with the pricing on the PS3. Keeping the PS2 brand alive was a double edge sword. On one hand, they are making money on the thing, on the other, people have stayed on it instead of paying for the PS3. I read that they launched the PS2...yes, Ps2 in Brazil for...get this, $600...lol. That was many months ago but definitely during this gen.

At this point who cares...PS3 has rebounded with a decent price drop and are finally making a profit on the damn thing. Many analysts are predicticting a bloodbath this holiday in favor of the 360 tho. The price is right over there. The best games in Halo Reach and Fable 3...top selling COD franchise, which sells millions more on 360 has timed exclusive DLC and Kinect with the new 360S will be bundled $100 LESS than the $399 PS3 Move bundle with no big game to push sales of the console. GT, if released will sell well, but not move many consoles...lol. Some have said they expect 360 to jump up by 10 million over PS3...a conservative estimate if you ask me.

BTW...who in there right mind would buy a PS2 console at this point??? 2011 will be a different story...Sony is looking good so far, we'll see how it pans out with 3D and Move. They are taking on serious water this second half...we'll see if they can hold and recover.

dragon825021d ago

My wife and I just bought a PS2 a few months ago for our kids to play.

I own a PS3, Xbox 360, PSPgo, and a DS. My wife owns a PS3, Wii and a DS. I am actually thinking of buying myself a PS2 so I can rebuy some of my favorite games from last gen that I had to trade in during a rough point at the begining of this gen where I had no money for new games.

Cold 20005021d ago

"Half Of Xbox 360 Owners Are PlayStation 2 Defects"

Thats Sony's biggest failure this gen right there.

sikbeta5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

So, not the overall xbox userbase, something like 24m or so, jump into buying the x360?, hmmm... how they make these kind of "analysis", half of the owners, it's really questionable knowing the percentage of failure rate is big and exceed many times the standard of failure rate in every electronic device which is 5%, if you say 20% out of 40m, that's -> 8m consoles that were screwed, the bigger the percentage is the less "real consumers" exists, and if we add the ban-waves, last year was like what, 600k x360 banned consoles, so you can't come up with something like this, another answer could be that maybe those PS2 owners are Pirates and knowing they Can't pirate the PS3, they were forced to find another way -> x360 | wii doesn't count, it doesn't have The Games of this HD-Gen

bustamove5021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

It never ends with you does it Omega? Can you NOT add something to the discussion without using flamebait to support your delusional arguments?

And for the rest of you, the same thing can be said about XBOX owners that went to the PS3 as well because Microsoft dropped the original one. So you have proof that PS2 owners actually went to the 360? Statistical evidence anyone?

dragon825021d ago

I would like to see the actual statistical figures for this. Anyone can make up claims like this. I could easily say that half of all Gamecube owners defected over to the PS3 but without real facts to back it up I would just sound like an idiot. Same goes for this article.

Sez 5021d ago

multi console owners here

poopface15021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

And now I have a PC, 360, and PS3.

I defected from nintendo after the n64, but will buy a 3DS probably.

Ive always liked to have as many platforms as I could. I think alot of people who had a Xbox or 360 also had a ps2. I think alot of those people will end up with both 360 and ps3.

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Focker4205022d ago

And the other half are 12 yr olds that have never owned a console....

Its just a joke, relax.

sikbeta5021d ago

That's the First thing I thought, Piracy was rampant on the PS2, but with the PS3 being unhackeable, pirates didn't have another choice if they want to play games for free...

pinkyxyz5021d ago

40+ million - 20= 20million defects right?

so doesn't that mean there's potentially around 100 million potential buyers left?

commodore645021d ago

correct.

but... less 50 million defects to the wii and
...... less 38 million ps3s already sold.

leaves 12 million left.
(by your logic)

Chris3995021d ago (Edited 5021d ago )

All signs point to this as being untrue. If anything there are more consumers and greater social acceptance for gaming than at any point in history before. I'd say that the "pool" of console marketshare will be over 175 million - easily - by the end of this gen; probably closer to 200 million. That's an awful lot of consumers still left to get to, and we're not even counting multi-console owners (of which there are definitely more this gen than previously).

Both of you are arguing a misconception.

The Meerkat5021d ago

And the pope sh!ts in the woods.

How is this news?

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Report Claims Xbox Is Planning More Cuts Following Studio Closures

"The sudden closure of several video-game studios at Microsoft Corp.’s Xbox division was the result of a widespread cost-cutting initiative that still isn’t finished.

This week, Xbox began offering voluntary severance agreements to producers, quality assurance testers and other staff at ZeniMax, which it purchased in 2020 for $7.5 billion, according to people familiar with the company’s plans. Others across the Xbox organization have been told that more cuts are on the way.

Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said.

Game Pass has not seen the massive growth that Xbox boss Phil Spencer may have been hoping for."

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just_looken2h ago

Sense it seems very few remember that human's were around before 2020 the next studio to close will be bethesda based no doubt on the history of.

Fallout 76
Elder scrolls online
elder scrolls blades mobile
fallout mobile
The vr versions of old games

Then you got starfield pissing out cash nothing to cover it.

I doubt tod's team or any sub team is making m$ cash they are no doubt on the chopping block for job cuts

If you can remember before 2020 even fallout 76 was made with over 4 studios.

-Foxtrot3h ago

"Speaking about the closures more broadly, Booty said that the company’s studios had been spread too thin — like “peanut butter on bread” — and that leaders across the division had felt understaffed. They decided to close these studios to free up resources elsewhere, he said"

So what you're saying is...you bought all these studios and you guys can't run them.

Jesus.

Inverno3h ago

Spread thin after firing over 2000 employees a few months prior. So basically they created the problem and their solution was to just fire more people. Absolute geniuses over at Xbox, of course can we even believe this to be the reason for the closures?

just_looken2h ago

9 agrees of course pro sony site

Oh look knowledge
https://www.pcgamer.com/aft...

They left them do there "magic" for 3 years lost alot of money redfall is what made them take charge.

This is right now m$ in charge

Profchaos2h ago

Leaders can't run them hire more management create new roles don't shutter entire studios cause you can't figure out how to run them.

Unless the reality is this whole consolidation thing was really an excuse for IP harvesting

Eonjay3h ago

Reports are suggesting that Game Pass will be getting a price hike soon and that Call of Duty may not be added to the day one offering. I honestly have a hard time believing this but it does beg the question why exactly did GP fail? I think the answer is that it just didn't get the growth that it anticipated. Jim was right but I wish he wasn't because at the end of the day, its gamers, devs and other front-line workers who have to absorb the blow for Spencer and team's miscalculations.

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NotoriousWhiz2h ago

And out of the ashes something even better than Xbox will be born.

Eonjay2h ago

Honestly as long as is not a situation where the industry has to contract in order focus wealth on a few people who are already trillionaires..

Tacoboto1h ago

I think 2022 killed the Series X.

2021 was a good year for Xbox though and maybe the best in a long long time, hardware and software and as a publisher. Halo Infinite launched to popularity, Forza Horizon 5 blew everyone away, Psychonauts 2 was so well received, Flight Simulator on console, Deathloop even on PS5 & PC.

But they followed that up with next to nothing. Then 2023 with Redfall, a disappointing Forza, Starfield, and 2024 leads with closures and layoffs. And some tweets reminding us Hellblade is days away.

The only disappointment with the PS5 is not enough Sony games. Xbox followed up no games with disappointing ones.

Scissorman3h ago

For all the armchair executives who were calling for Sony to release its big-budget AAA games on PS+, the same exact thing would have happened at PlayStation. Game Pass has killed Xbox. Congrats.

shinoff21833h ago

There's not many of of us clamoring for Sony to do this because most of us understand it would kill Playstation. I'm sure there's a few but I've not seen alot of it myself.

just_looken2h ago

I will give you a like sense this site is pro sony even the mods will delete this comment like my last asap as they defend sony 24/7.

Those with brains knows microsoft a trillion dollar company cares little about devs and is all about making cash so they will lease out ips gamepass is not a loss like amazon/netflix the overall ms make billions a week.

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The Rise of the Metro Series

A look back at 4A Games' admirably consistent post-apocalyptic shooter franchise.

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"While the 20 year anniversary edition of Nordic Game, NG24 Spring's homepage on 21-24 May in Malmö, Sweden, is getting closer, the organizers announced that more than 150 speakers are now lined up for the show." - Nordic Game.