The Reasons Why PS3 Will End Up In last Place This Console Generation

It will, though, end this console race last in terms of install base. But that’s quite alright, there’s always PS4, and as long as the giant makes a profit on its biggest investment yet, I see no losers here.

[Jamie Foxx]

ps3 has been out selling 360 worldwide and has cut the 360s lead from 10 million to 5 million even with shortages, granted 360 s will give microsoft a boost like all hardware revisions, but it wont be sustained without software and quite frankly microsoft have next to none first party studios,many 3rd party developers themselves have stated 3rd party exclusivity is a dying breed.this brings you onto ....

kinect....microsoft are putting all their eggs in one basket when it comes to kinect...hence their terrible e3. without first party studios what will ms do if kinect fails? kinect and move are too late to the motion control party,nintendo has that category on lock

its inevitable ps3 will overtake the 360 but sony and their early arrogance has cost them the crown this gen,but it makes for an exciting 720/ps4 battle...

[T9X69]

Did you even bother to read the article?

EDIT: @hardcore1912 - Ohhhh ok, so since its the PS3 its falmebait right? but if it was the same article but replaced with Xbox it would be ok, and get approved within 45 seconds? Yup that sounds about right.

Yea nice edit.

EDIT: Clownbelt - I posted that before everyone decided to actually read the article and edit their comments. If you would have seen the "Yea nice edit" then you would know that. Both Jamie Foxx, and hardore1912 had flamebait comments, then they changed them after I posted that. Try reading next time.

[ClownBelt]

"so since its the PS3 its falmebait right? but if it was the same article but replaced with Xbox it would be ok"

Where are you getting this assumption? People kept on saying "oh if it's xbox it won't get approve" when that's not true at all. Xbox 360 or PS3 flamebait articles get approve all the time, so stop crying as if your piece of plastic isn't getting the fair treatment.

@above
How about trying to comprehend what I said first? It doesn't matter whether those two edited their posts. It's the fact that you were crying about the treatment here in N4G with baseless assumption.

[Jamie Foxx]

my comment was flambait? coming from the guy with one bubble?

my comment based on the title was 'flamebait do not give the site hits' HOW IS THAT FLAMEBAIT?

silly little troll

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

So obviously, in the end, the PS3 will outsell the 360 and end up in second place, heck, maybe even first place.

"..that [doesn't mean that] the 360 is going to go down without a fight. MS is going to try and outsell the PS3, and they can easily do price cuts to do that."

That also means that Sony isn't going to go down without a fight too. Sony is going to try to keep outselling the 360. And for every price cut Microsoft does, Sony will also counter, unless Microsft decided to give away the consoles for free, which isn't going to happen.

Another thing is, price cut without exclusive games is not going to do anything. You still need games to move consoles. And right now, and for the seeable future, Microsoft exclusives line-up is very small compare to what's coming down Sony's pipe-line.

[-Alpha]

The PS3 does have a chance to outsell the 360, but definitely not the Wii, at least not anytime soon. There is no indication that it can outsell the Wii anytime soon so don't get ahead of yourself. I can see how one can conclude it will outsell the 360 but it's harder to conclude that it will outsell the Wii.

Your logic isn't sound TotalPS3Fanboy. Yes, Sony is on the right track and CAN outsell the 360, but you can't use that same logic on the Wii because the difference is way too high to use that same logic.

And don't assume that just because the PS3 is selling at a higher rate that the 360 is going to go down without a fight. MS is going to try and outsell the PS3, and they can easily do price cuts to do that. There are many factors that you don't factor in. You use the simple reasoning that "it's outselling the 360 now, so it will continue and outsell the 360 soon", but you make a couple assumptions. We are well into this generation's cycle and Sony has still to catch up to MS. And when or if it happens, Sony not only has to maintain that lead (you forget about the fact that MS will still be fighting), but they also have to fend of MS while trying to now outsell the Wii. If it's taken this long to outsell MS it's going to take longer or just as long to outsell the Wii, don't you think? How many years will that take you think?

You people need to stop making a big deal out of who is in what place. How does that change how you enjoy the console? Sony IS in last place currently, that's a fact, but why care? It's sold a substantial amount that it's a relevant and significant competitor and it's got a ton of highly acclaimed exclusives and games. What do you get out of them being 2nd or 1st? Sony catching up to 2nd place doesn't demean MS in anyway just like Sony isn't demeaned this gen being in last. They have both shown they are significant this generation and they are both successful consoles in terms of sales already.

[jebabcock]

This article like most from gamesthirst is complete and utter flamebait... when you read their articles you are simply paying them to write more trash via advertising...

1) Seriously people, amazon? are we seriously using Amazon to support anything??? If anyone did any type of statistical analysis on how amazon sales related to overall console sales then I think people would be laughing at the mere mention of it...

2) For 1 week it accounted for about a 120k difference in sales... Which makes sense... Its respectable, and if it keeps up it means something... but for 1 week, honestly if it did any less it would already be a poor indicator.. There are alot of avid xbox fans out there that would love to have the newer box simply because it looks cool... with 20 million xbox 360s sold in the US, A vast majority of those numbers could have easily been people looking to get the cooler looking model... The only real fact right now is that no one knows the truth and currently there is no real indication of anything... If around august the same kind of numbers are still being pulled for the xbox, or they have dropped back down to their pre slim numbers already, then something can be said, until then lets just all keep our mouths shut and wait.... seriously...

A quote from a wise friend, "Its ok to be proud of your crap and let everyone know its good just so long as you don't go around thinking your crap is any better than someone else's..."

In the end its all about preference...

[Dee_91]

xbox came out 1st so it should have more units sold than ps3

[Shadow Flare]

This article has one major flaw.

It assumes that now the 360S has a bigger HDD then the ps3 for the same price and that the arcade model got a price cut, it is therefore game over for sony.

Gamesthirst forgot a little bit of trivia, in that the ps3 has always been more expensive then the 360. Always. And it has outsold it always. Reducing the gap between itself and 360 more and more and more. So price obviously wasn't always the issue.

A consumer survey showed bluray was a big factor in buying a ps3 over a 360. So if gamesthirst think consumers would rather buy a 360 with a dvd player when they can get a bluray ps3 for the same price, think again.

And the sales bump for the 360S is expected. Like with every new bit of hardware. We'll see how long it lasts though.

But aside from that, think about this. Where are gamers winning?

At microsofts E3 conference, ONE new exclusive game was shown. ONE. How many exclusives does the ps3 have in its future? I can't even count them at the moment. So if you're a gamer, ps3 really is the best console to own right now

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

"Your logic isn't sound TotalPS3Fanboy. Yes, Sony is on the right track and CAN outsell the 360, but you can't use that same logic on the Wii because the difference is way too high to use that same logic."

But I am not using that logic on the Wii. I am using that logic only on the 360.

However, I will use the following logic on the Wii though:

120 millions PS2 users migrates to the PS3 when the PS3 becomes cheap enough.

"If it's taken this long to outsell MS it's going to take longer or just as long to outsell the Wii, don't you think? How many years will that take you think?"

It could take 1 day, or it could take 10 years. It all depends on when those 120 millions PS2 gamers decide to upgrade to the PS3. If they all decide overnight, then it takes 1 night. Most likely though, it'll take several years, but it will still be very well within Sony's 10 years plan.

"You people need to stop making a big deal out of who is in what place."

Agreed. Thought it's not these people that are making a big deal out of who's in what place. It's actually articles like these that are making a big deal out of it.

[Raz]

"Kinect is beating Move, and Xbox 360 S is beating the PS3"

None of these has been released yet. The 360 slim comes out in July, and Kinect won't be out until November; the Move isn't scheduled for release until September. Where exactly is this moron getting his numbers?

[-Alpha]

"120 millions PS2 users migrates to the PS3 when the PS3 becomes cheap enough."

There are no grounds to assume this. How do you know where these 120 million users are? What they are interested in? If they still game? What they liked about the PS2? It's a major assumption to generalize a huge number like "120 million" and assume they will migrate to the PS3 "when it's cheap enough". $299 is pretty damn cheap and yet I see people stringing along the argument saying "when it's cheaper", or "soon in the future". Many people have moved on to this generation with Wii, PS3, and even the 360. Assuming that 120 million exists and that they are somehow loyal to the PlayStation for whatever reason and they will surely get the PS3 "soon" when it's "cheap" is wishful thinking. That argument has been around for such a long time. When is soon? How much cheaper does the PS3 have to get?

"It could take 1 day, or it could take 10 years. It all depends on when those 120 millions PS2 gamers decide to upgrade to the PS3."

Assuming they exist and that they haven't already upgraded and assuming that they want to upgrade to the PS3. This was Sony PR talk and you bought it, why? I am surprised people are buying this nonsense assumption. Sony doesn't have tabs or is in contact with these 120 million users. They don't know what they want. Consumers don't upgrade based on brand loyalty yet you assume that 120 million will for some reason get the PS3. The PS2 was a much different, much more varied console than the PS3. There are so many factors that influence the decision of buying a console yet you somehow think 120 mill will get the PS3 because they had the PS2. That's baloney.

"If they all decide overnight, then it takes 1 night. Most likely though, it'll take several years, but it will still be very well within Sony's 10 years plan."

It's been four years and they still haven't completely outsold the 360. Let's be realistic here. Are you assuming within 5 more years that Sony will outsell the Wii which STILL continues to grow and has a much larger gap than the 360 has? And when it happens, WHY will it be significant? What will it prove? You are spending this whole gen trying to come out of last place yet will it matter if, in the very end Sony comes into 2nd or 1st if they've spent so much time third in terms of overall sales? Why keep count of such a petty thing? The PS3 and 360 and even the Wii have proven that they have made successful establishments this generation. They are active consoles, they have games released on the console regularly with significantly large fanbases. Sorry, but I think that thinking 120 million users are going to upgrade to the PS3 within the next 6 years is highly improbable and has no grounds on solid reasoning. It's a complete assumption based on Sony PR Talk.

[Raz]

double-post due to stupid browser malfunction. please ignore.

[HolyOrangeCows]

Typical trashy GamesThirst article.

Just their desperate desire to have the Ps3 fail. Just a bunch of reasons why it had a rocky START, NOT why it will end up in last place at the end of this generation. Go back to 2007, GT.

[Shadow Flare]

there's only 1 way i see the ps3 outselling the wii. And thats if nintendo release a new home console which captivates the publics interest, and completely drop support for the wii. Other then that...nope. I don't see the ps3 catching the wii

The one saving grace the ps3 has is that it will last a very, very long time. Probably 15 years. The wii is getting to the end of its life, and a new console could be due soon

[TotalPS3Fanboy]

"There are no grounds to assume this. How do you know where these 120 million users are?"

They are still out there. They didn't just magically disappeared overnight.

"Many people have moved on to this generation with Wii, PS3, and even the 360."

No. Some PS2 gamers may have moved to the Wii. However, mostly, it's just the soccer moms and casuals who came to the Wii.

The early adoptors of PS2 have moved to the PS3. Now, the rest of most of the PS2 gamers just need to move to the PS3 too (and they will when Sony dropped the price under $200, or under $100).

"Assuming that 120 million exists and that they are somehow loyal to the PlayStation for whatever reason and they will surely get the PS3 "soon" when it's "cheap" is wishful thinking. That argument has been around for such a long time."

Now, obviously, not all PS2 gamers will migrate to the PS3. However, the majority of them will. And not only that, the PS3 will also be drawing in new gamers. And also the casual crowds too, with Move.

"When is soon?"

Whenever Sony does more price cuts. When will Sony do another price cut? We do not know. However, we do know that Sony will continue doing price cuts like how Sony have done with the PS2.

"How much cheaper does the PS3 have to get?"
Below $200 for the next wave. Below $100 for the last wave.

"...Assuming they exist..."

Again, they do.

"...and that they haven't already upgraded and assuming that they want to upgrade to the PS3..."

Again, most of them do, they're just waiting for the price drop. There's the group that waited until the PS2 Slim was below $200 to buy it. And there's the last group, the group that waited until the PS2 Slim was under $99. Those groups are going to do the same with the PS3.

"This was Sony PR talk and you bought it, why?"

Sony PR never talked about this. I don't know why you bought that up. I haven't heard Sony mention something like what that before.

"It's been four years and they still haven't completely outsold the 360."

360 came out a year before the PS3 with a cheaper price but the PS3 have been selling at a faster rate than it is, even with all these obstecles against the PS3. And now that the PS3 is overcoming more and more of these obstecles, the rate at which the PS3 sells wil be even faster. With several more price cuts, and the migration of PS2 gamers, the PS3 will sells exponentially (in a sense, not literally).

"Let's be realistic here. Are you assuming within 5 more years that Sony will outsell the Wii which STILL continues to grow and has a much larger gap than the 360 has?"

I am not sure that in several years, the Wii can continue to grow. Many of these peoples who originally bought the Wii are going to be looking to upgrade to a better cheap enough alternative, like a $129 PS3 with Move in a few years.

[-Alpha]

Thanks for discussing with me and I see what you are saying.

I still remain highly skeptical and here's why:

You are still assuming that 120 million or so users WILL upgrade to the PS3. Again, there is no way you can know that. The Wii continues to grow and sell and when the PS3 drops in price, however long that may take, how do you know that this will allow for these 120 mill or so users to not only adopt the PS3, but outsell the Wii?

You said it yourself, not all will upgrade, but you feel a majority will. Once again, these are all claims without reasons backing up why anyone else should believe your claims. I hope u see why I remain so skeptical.

You talk about the PS3 dropping in price-- the Wii and even the 360 are in far better positions than the PS3 to be dropping in price before the PS3 can. Sorry, but it's not as easy as "120 mill users will migrate to the PS3" to the point where the PS3 outsells the Wii.

I am not saying it's not possible, but not under that premise where you ignore so many other factors. The gap is way too large, the Wii is far more casual for the PS3 to catch up to.

[Dac2u]

I could seriously care less who's in first, second or third. What I do care about is that Sony is finally getting the attention it deserves from 3rd party devs. Now, with all the exclusives and better quality ports coming out, I'm really happy I went with the PS3 instead of the 360.

[Information Minister]

Best quote from the "article": "But then E32010 came, and what Microsoft revealed at that show changed everything."

And that's where I stopped reading. I wonder if the guy who wrote this is enjoying a free Xbox 360 S.

[Arnon]

"120 millions PS2 users migrates to the PS3 when the PS3 becomes cheap enough."

Who's to say that they haven't already migrated to this current gen?

Wii - 70.93 million
360 - 40 million
PS3 - 35 million

That's 145.93 million users total for this generation of consoles. For all you know, the majority of them could have already migrated. Who's to say that they're not all on the Wii and 360 now? I guarantee you that the majority of them have, as I'm one of them (since, for some reason, you believe that none of the users have bought a current gen console). So no, there aren't "120 million PS2 users waiting for the PS3". It's asinine to believe that every single PS2 user is a Playstation fan and will only buy Playstation consoles.

I'm assuming, based off of logical reason, that more than half of them are already playing something new.

[punkpop101]

Everything you say good about ps3 gets 100+ agrees and everything bad 100+ disagrees.That's ps3 fanbots you know them.

[Socrates]

The gap between the 360 and ps3 has widened and shrunk several times this generation.

The 360 currently has around a 5 million lead and is now widening the gap.

We only have probably 2 years until the next generation is upon us. Does anyone really believe the PS3 can catch up?

It would have to outsell the 360 by around 2.5 million EACH YEAR just to make even with the 360. But now the 360 is outselling it. I'm sorry, I just don't see it happening.

That said, all three consoles are doing well and as history has shown it isn't the end of the world for a console to be in third place.

[hardcore1912]

Yeah, same thing I was thinking. The article never bashes the PS3 or anything. I found it to be a good read with much reasoning!

But most of these fanboys don't read pieces anyway.. Once an article is not PS3 positive then they bash, the piece, the site, or the person who wrote it. I know N4G is better than this....

[Nike]

You put up a title like, "The Reasons Why PS3 Will End Up In last Place This Console Generation". There's no point in acting innocent on why people will hate you for it. That, and being part of GamesThirst automatically means you produce nothing but flamebait. I hope no one here reads your good for nothing article.

[JOLLY1]

I thought the biggest lead that the 360 ever had was 8 million. IF my numbers are correct (which I am not sure) the ps3 has gained 3 million in 5 years. Now, if this is a 10 year cycle, and the sales stayed the same, ps3 would still be 3rd by 2 million.

To the comment below me.....What are you talking about? The new 360 is the same price as the new ps3. They are both $299. The 360 is at #6 and the ps3 is at #15. People don't really buy the "peanuts" one.

[Jamie Foxx]

they can price 360 for peanuts such is their deep pockets,sony need to cut the price to $250-$199 but obviously cant

[Newtype]

@Jamie Foxx
It's a cheaply made console to begin with.

[Socrates]

It's not a cheaply made console. There was a flaw in the design of early 360s that was causing many of them to fail, but the problem has since been remedied. My 360 has been running strong for 4 years.

Last generation my Xbox never failed on me and in fact still works to this day. Can't say the same for my PS2 that died on me.

[Jamie Foxx]

double post

[Anarki]

PS3 is already second, if you look at year on year sales from launch.

All the developers have already saw the potential of the PS3, and choosing to lead on this platform. Even EA!!!

[MRHARDON]

By giving PS3 a broken BETA means they care about PS3....lol

[nickjkl]

doesnt matter ps3 is first in my mind due to the technical aspect of games and hardware it provides me

[Ju]

"broken BETA"

...BETA implies it is not done, no ? Its different from, for example, "DEMO". Just saying.

[MmaFanQc]

HOW COULD I TO JUSTIFY MY 360 FANBOYISM WHEN THE 360 IS OBVIOUSLY LOOSING STEAM AGAINST THE PS3.

[sixaxis]

i cant belive this got approved nevertheless. it had like so many reports. theres no point to even have report system if anyone just doesnt care and approves this story with brute force.

btw, ps3 is doomed, and should be cancelled

[Majinzo]

Just enjoy the show. We all know who is going to win. The wii hahaa or Ps3. I believe the 360 already lost unless its kinect changes everything but so far its another wii. btw i like the 360 but i dont like to be forced to pay for online!!!

[Christopher]

I've never sold into this whole console ranking crap. There's some point in debating console sales to see how well one will sell at one time or another, such as the new 360 model definitely increasing 360 hardware sales for the next month or two.

But, when it comes to just declaring one as a loser of the current generation, I don't think that's something that can be done, honestly. What I mean is that whether you have just a 360 or a PS3, you're getting the best games out there sans some exclusives on both sides of this inane fence.

So, for those who have invested in the PS3, I highly doubt they feel left out or that their console of choice isn't performing to their needs and desires. The same with the Xbox 360.

And, lastly, both sides are seeing profits, meaning they will both be seen in the next generation of consoles and likely the generations thereafter as well.

[Qui-Gon Jim]

The console makers only care about hardware sold because it affects potential software sales. MS and Sony don't make much, if any, money off the hardware, they make money off the software. That's why they sell consoles at a loss for much of the cycle, to get more users buying software. Some people seem to think that they do that just so they can brag about bigger install base.

It's like if a bank bragged about how many savings accounts it has. They lose money on that, but those customers then borrow money from that bank to buy their cars and houses, or pay for a checking account.

Microsoft and Sony would rather have 1/10th as many hardware sold if those 1/10th as many people people bought ten times as much software each (same amount of software sold then, with less money lost on making hardware). Software is where the money is made.

[Snakefist30]

Because of these Bullsh**t articles and gets repeated again and again and 360 fanboys always keep whining and keep telling tat PS3 is a waste of money cause it has no games,worst online features and there fan base is agnorant.

[LEGENDARY PELON]

This generation the Xbox 360 proved to be a GAMING CONSOLE! It had its flaws such as the RROD but it never delayed its dedication to the TRUE gamers!

The ps3 did a great job, but focused to much on being more of an all around machine, "it only does everything" instead of gaming itself. Like blue ray and as we see now days 3d. And thats how they failed!

Sony take notes from the nerds over their at Microsoft for the ps4!

[Elvfam511]

When did this generation end?

[Crystallis]

You are acting like the game is over. Its just getting started.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

lol yea I guess all those game of the year awards were just for show

[strickers]

Dedication to weak minded fools.The 360 is a shit piece of hardware with some good games but for me PS3 is a great piece of tech with better games(now).

[madjedi]

So pelon sony will take notes from ms for the ps4, and exactly what would sony have learn from them. Excessive faulty hardware for the 1st half of the gen, not including the next primary source of audio and video hookup for all upcoming hdtvs-hdmi.

Not including builtin wifi, when just about everything else has had it for yrs. Hdd can't be utilised in game development, because not all 360's will have a hdd, overpriced propriety equipment.

How to eliminate 1st party studios, to the point where your console has almost no unique identity. Because you have to rely almost entirely on third parties for games for your system.

Or how at the largest video game conference of the yr to be more focused on attracting the wii crowd, that you basically forget the people that gave your console the install base it has today.

And sony would want advice from ms on the ps4, why exactly again?

[adamx]

First- ps3 exclusives>360 exclusives
2nd- Had sony got a year head start on the 360. The 360 woulde be long gone by now ala dreamcast you cant say the same about the ps3.

[colonel179]

PS3 is FIRST in QUALITY AND QUANTITY, and that´s what matter the most. It has the best games, best exclusives, and most variety.

Sales only matter for the makers, and shareholders, not gamers. And look at Nintendo, they were last, last gen, and they recovered big time, so who says that couldn't happen to Sony with the PS4?

As long as Sony keep doing what they are doing this gen, I am happy. The sales will come in time.

[UltimateSanto]

True gamers are not fanboys like you. True gamers have all consoles and enojoy playing them all. True Gamers is a phrase you are not allowed to say.

[IcarusOne]

Real gamers only care about one thing: games. Not brands. Not sales. Not awards. Just games and the hours of fun we get from them. Having a preference is one thing. But blind loyalty is never healthy. That's what gave rise to the Nazis.

[Socrates]

That's your opinion. I don't agree. I think the 360 has the best games. I only love a few games on the PS3, namely Uncharted, Uncharted 2 and God of War 3. Killzone 2 is also pretty good. But other than that, there just isn't anything that great for me.

I couldn't care less about some of the second rate crap that is put out on the PS3. And even some of the stuff that isn't second rate crap, like LittleBigPlanet, just doesn't appeal to me. I tried to get into it and it is fun and charming at first, but soon it just gets really boring.

There are just so many games that I love on the 360 like: Lost Odyssey, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Halo 3, Left4Dead, Left4Dead 2, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Mass Effect 2, Alan Wake, Halo Wars, Shadow Complex, Forza 3. And just the fact that the 360 usually gets the best versions of multiplatform games and the fact that I prefer the 360s interface, features and online experience, means that I get all of my multiplatform games for the 360 as well.

I am really happy with my 360 and the experiences it has given me.

[madjedi]

@ultimate lmao true, elite, hardcore, real they are all subjective terms dependant on each own human's biased point of view in gaming context. I don't own all consoles nor do i want to own all of them. If that excludes me from matching the description of a true gamer by a bunch of random posters(ie nobody that actually matters to me) too bad, but somehow i think i'll survive.

It's called an opinion buddy, and yours isn't any better than mine, when it comes to dictating to others whether they are "true gamers" or not.

I do love people that like to show how much better a person or a true gamer they are than everyone else, because they own more than 1 platform.

@Icarus you need to add the treaty of versitse to that statement.

[silvacrest]

you bring up a good point, how many more times can they reduce the price of the 360 before its counter productive? you can by a new arcade for £80 and a new elite for £139 if you look hard enough

preowned prices are even more ridiculous, cant say the same for the PS3

[Anon1974]

Jamie Foxx said "ps3 has been out selling 360 worldwide and has cut the 360s lead from 10 million to 5 million"

Actually, when the 360 was out it's furthest in front it had a lead of 8.6 million over the PS3. That lead is now down to 2.47 million according to Microsoft and Sony's official numbers. As of their last quarter the PS3 sat at 37.63 million, the 360 at 40.1 million.

This article is claiming a Kinect victory over Move when neither have gone on sale yet and the price of Kinect isn't even officially known. It's also grabbing Amazon numbers, for the love of god.

How did this tripe even get approved?

[Anon1974]

The first two quarters the PS3 was out, Sony reported shipped, not sold. They changed that later, so when they originally reported 5.5 million consoles went out, it was later adjusted to 3.61 million PS3's sold that year.

That brings the current total to 35.92 million PS3's sold going off the totals reported in the last 4 of Sony's year end reports. That leaves the difference at just over 4 million PS3's sold versus 360's shipped.

Still, the article is ridiculous, comparing a victor already with products that haven't even gone on sale.

[bobdog626]

Halo as a Hole has done a Great Job of crushing the competition.Time and Time again it has Saved Microsoft and gave them a Edge over Sony.I know if Sony could not Stop Halo they would lose no matter what .Well here it come's again and Sony can't stop the Halo Train again .Sony just Cliched Last Place this Gen 4 Good

[EvilBlackCat]

YOU ALL LOVE THIS PS3 XBOX360 WAR right?

Well explain why

[ProjectVulcan]

This hardware will give 360 a boost but its software that carries the momentum and i dont see what microsoft have to sell the machine to new users. They have few original titles now that arent sequels to games already on 360 to pull more users in. Halo reach, Gears of War 3, Fable 3, Crackdown 2- what do they all have in common? They are all sequels to games out this generation, which people have already bought machines for. I mean if you dont have a 360 for for Halo 3 or ODST, are you buying one now just for reach? Unlikely.

Sony have the sequels too like KZ3, Infamous 2 and LBP2 but they also have big name games now debuting this generation still to come, games like GT5, games like The last guardian, Twisted metal. Reasons for people to go out and buy a shiny new machine to play the latest generation of these popular series.

This is how i am seeing the next 12 months from these machines, Sony have system selling games to come. Where are microsofts?

[SaberEdge]

Don't you realize how biased that sounds? You say the 360 isn't going to pull in more users with sequels to blockbuster franchises like Halo, Fable and Gears of War, but then you go on to list a bunch of sequels on the PS3.

The only big PS3 game that isn't a sequel is The Last Guardian, but we don't even know when that will come out. Microsoft might announce something by the time that game ever comes out.

The fact is GT5, LBP2, Infamous 2, KZ3 and even Twisted Metal are all franchises that have been around for a while.

You seem to be seeing things through fanboy goggles. I guarantee every good game on any console helps to sell more of that console. This idea that only new IPs help sell consoles is ludicrous. In fact, I would be willing to bet that the gamers that go and buy a console for just one game are the minority. I think most gamers consider the entire library when deciding whether to buy a console or not.

[IcarusOne]

Last Guardian kind of is a sequel - a spiritual sequel to Shadow of the Colossus, which was kind of a spiritual sequel to Ico. I'm not complaining. I love Team Ico and can't wait to get my greasy mits on TLG.

Anyway. Just thought of that. My point is, you bring up a good point. Sequels, sequels, everywhere!

[ProjectVulcan]

As i feared- you completely misunderstand the point. You seem to be missing the entire point. The sequels listed on 360, the big names have ALREADY debuted on that system, and are sequels to games ALREADY out this generation for 360. Whereas the few latter PS3 games i highlighted are NOT out this generation, unless you count GT5 prologue which is a glorified demo, and polls have already backed up the idea that a lot of people who are going to buy GT5 do not currently own a PS3 and are waiting specifically for the finished thing....

This idea that there is another million people out there waiting to buy a machine for halo reach for example is dreamed up by the usual suspects. Again, there is basis for this conclusion. The figures last year support this as ODST launched but 360 sales in america went up by a mere 10k for the launch week, and the very next week fell back into line again with the previous two months.

Im talking about sustained system sellers. Games that are ready to debut and make people go out and buy a new machine trading in their old, likely PS2, that they played GT4, twisted metal black and ICO etc on. Not big IPs that will be on their third iteration this generation....They simply do not sell wads of hardware and the figures support this. Im looking for the titles on 360 that are going to drag in a new kind of hardcore gamer, rather than simply shift software units which the 360 is very good at. It has however backed it itself into a corner relying so heavily on the american market, there is definitely a market ceiling to be hit without japan as a viable territory

[tinybigman]

Articles like this a hit because these never ending idiot pieces will continue this stupid ass war between fanboys for no reason.

[evilmonkey501]

My personal opinion is that ultimately Sony will come in first in the "HD video game console selling race" because it will sell longer. There is no denying that the ps3 will sell for another ten years. Will the xbox sell for that long? probably no. I bet in two years we see another box from Microsoft, and they will quit selling 360's.(just like the original xbox )
Sony supports systems for a LONG time, whereas other competitors seem to ditch hardware support when the new thing arrives. I think the author is reaching with this article. Who cares about sales anyways? I like games, and right now SONY IS WINNING IN THE GAMES DEPT.

[sikbeta]

WTF with this article!?

GT5 Alone will Erase the "gap" and PS3 sales will Skyrocket, after that a new price-cut and then the PS3 @ $200 and Everything like last Gen with the PS2 will repeat with the PS3....

[gtamike]

Because people keep replacing dead xbox 360s and that counts as sells

[blazBlue]

....Have we forgotten what it's like to be gamers now?

This article is bloody flamebait. Foxx is right.

[pain777pas]

If M$ did not buy former exclusive titles from Sony the situation would be different end of story. Money won you all over and you have to admit it. Epics Gears graphics in 06 wowed, Halo 3 overhyped and was the first to bring online play this gen made them what they are. In actuality, I think that they have no games that I want to play anymore. Crackdown looks horrible. Reach looks ok and will play great (I hope) but will be overhyped. Gears 3 just cant cut it since Uncharted I feel that the game just lacks something...the magic of gaming. Mass Effect can be played on PC which is great however I like to play with a game pad so this is the reason why the 360 is valuable. I have no anticipation for anygame that they offer exclusively. PS3 is full of QUALITY games that are fun and underated. From create play share games to GOW3 and Heavy Rain. I don't understand the media anymore. The truth is Sony games are the best Next gen HD games on the Market. I really can compare because I had both systems. I really like Sony's balanced portfolio of Quality exclusives and almost too many quality exclusives out of their first party to be honest. Playing A-Spec GT3 on my 60 gig right now and cannot believe how well it holds up. Sony is doing well this gen even if they don't sell. I think they have the best lineup now and in the future and their motion tech looks the most promising to ME at the moment. I realize that when I'm at a friends and I play gears I do wish that series was on the PS3 until I played Uncharted again recently and found that it is without a doubt a better game. I could not believe that I didn't put the controller down for a few hours. Same goes for Killzone 2. So under appreciated. I'm glad that the community is still strong and playing everytime I go online. PS3 for me this gen forget sales I go where the quality is and I didn't even mention the hardware. Truth be told the best thing M$ has done was introduce achievements and not because of your gamerscore but the memories of games that you beat and a record that you beat such and such game which I think is cool.
/rant

[bobdog626]

Sony was Doomed from the Start.Halo by it self Beat .Killzone 1,2 Uncharted 1,2 God of War ,1,2 and Heavy Rain by it self.How can you compeat against that.Easy you Can't Plain and Simple.Oh i think i see the Halo Train comming again.Sony never had a Chance. Next Gen its going to Happen all over again.

[avengers1978]

I'd say that given the history of Sony playstation products it will still be selling 5,6, possible 7 years from now. It is unlikely either 360 or Wii will still be on the market at all.

[otherZinc]

This is going to be a grand scale runaway. The PS3 wont get close to the 360 this year & Kinect will solidify the kill of SONY.

[adamx]

1 year head start and only a 4 mil gap? Which were most likely sheep rebuying to replace a dead 360. It cant kill sony you blind fool, but microsoft may pull the plug on its gaming division if natal flops. I will lol.

[jaysquared]

Its so funny to me how so many PS3 fanboys are now using the excuse "well the 360 came out first so it has to have sold more"..Remember last gen when the Dreamcast came out first before the PS2? Stop making excuses! Playstation is dying brand while Xbox has gained more userbase this gen while Playstation has decreased! Its a good thing as well it has put Sony in check and made them humble! Hopefully next gen Sony doesn't try and shove a MOVIE format down gamers throat like they did with the PS3!

[DigitalAnalog]

Microsoft decides to reveal another "next-gen" console in the market. Granted the 360 is almost as old as the Xbox when the 360 was announced.

The PS3 on the other hand is just reaching it's 4th year, and following their game-plan, future consoles was always followed by a 6 year cycle. PS1 --> PS2 = 6 years, PS2 --> PS3 = 6 years, PS3 --> PS4 ? 6 years?

*666 OMG. Just kidding.

-End statement

[vhero]

Oh dear 360 slim outsells PS3 on launch which everybody knew it would as its a reboot and most the people buying it are current 360 owners upgrading to the new model and all of a sudden PS3 coming last articles are back.. Brilliant..

[Garnett]

1. 360 was never more than 8 million units ahead.

2. Sony never had shortages, they were increasing demands. Which is very effective.

3. Exclusives dont sell systems, game library does.

4. Yes, MS realizes that 360 has nothing left to offer besides motion controls.

5. We dont know what the out come of this gen will be, 360 can always be cheaper than the PS3.

[RIPSKATEDESTROY]

read the article and youll see what its really about. dont bash

[Godmars290]

The author is using "facts" that either no longer apply, like the $600 price point, or ones that are unconfirmed like Kentic outselling Move when neither have even been released.

Don't fool yourself, this is just personal conjecture and flamebait.

[roccohateskittens]

The title is flamebait, but the article is well written. The writer probably should have thought twice about the title.

[BeaArthur]

Everyone is desperate for hits and they know if they title it something controversial that people will take a look. It's always about the hits, which is why I never click on articles like these. I would rather be part of the solution instead of continuing to perpetuate the problem.

[jaredhart]

Flamebait Alert!! This is going to be a lively one after it's approved.

[Grodd]

Its going to be very close

[BaltimoreGamer]

Loved the article, the title misleads though.

[Omega4]

I agree I think the main reason will be the $199 slim arcade if its exactly the same as the current slim with only a 120GB HDD as rumoured thats literally a $200+ pricecut if you consider the cost of the HDD and wifi from the old models. This along will cause a HUGE demand for the 360 since a HDD 360 will finally be at the magic $199 price point.

Throw in Kinect, Halo, Gears and massive ad campaigns and Sony won't stand a chance.

[mrv321]

Throw in Kinect, Gears and Halo... when did I miss the 360 being the only console with a FPS, Third person shooter and motion controls. It's not like the PS3 has

-Move
-Resistance
-Killzone
-Uncharted
-GT5

Oh wait it does.

Oh sorry... Microsoft has Ads... Let's just make this clear KB>Microsoft ads.

[OmarJA-N4G]

Both Halo Reach & Gears of War 3 will sell good but they are not system sellers, the previous installments failed to do that.

With Kevin Butler on Sony's side they'll need more than a massive ad campaign, maybe a price cut to survive in the U.S. alone.

[silvacrest]

i will agree with ads and kinect simply because the casuals will buy it without realizing how good or bad it is but halo and gears?...

those two can only go so far and as we have been shown by a article on this site, there are only a few 360 exclusives that sell anything close gears of war never mind halo

[Qui-Gon Jim]

The new ones won't push hardware sales much.

[bobdog626]

Its not just the 360 fans this is Aimed At.This is Aimed at the PS3 Fans as Well and Guess what ,There buying it.You see Halo Reach is going to Reach for the Mass Market this time.No other Game has Made as Much ,Well CoD but thats it .Halo Reach will make History this time.Just wait and See my friend .Just wait and See

[Qui-Gon Jim]

I'm not saying the game itself won't sell. It absolutely will. I'm saying that most people who want to play Halo already bought a 360 for Halo 3, so Reach won't help sell consoles. Kinect will be a system seller because it is targeting a whole new audience that has been heretofore completely neglected by the XBox brand.

Edit: As I said in another post, though, the only reason to sell hardware is so that you can sell software, because that's where the money is made. Halo Reach will sell over ten million copies, so it doesn't HAVE to sell hardware. It's already doing its job.

[IcarusOne]

All I've seen from both Kinect and Move have been mostly casual games. So the question is, why would casual gamers spend so much money on something that - at this point - the Wii has proved it does for way cheaper?

Until/unless MS and Sony start thinking about motion control for hardcore gamers, neither one of these systems will do much good.

[Tony-A]

Because the 360 outsold it for a week?

What about when the PS3 outsold the 360 for over a year straight? Or when the PS3 shrunk the gap in half in less than half a year? No "360 will end up in last forever" articles?

*replies "read the fuckin article" in 3.... 2.... 1....*

I read the article. I'm just saying. I think this generation will run on much longer than this guy is expecting. Counters can't be made forever. I think Sony will be supporting the PS3 until even after Nintendo releases another console and (of course) MS follows to try to be ahead, leaving the 360 behind in the process. In the end, how can a $100 or $200 PS3 not sell like crazy when it'll have the Blu-Ray, the online service and the huge library of games by the time the next gen rolls around with no "must-buy" games?

[Newtype]

PS4 is due in like 2020 or something. PS3 has a long life to it.

[NYC_Gamer]

we all should be used to all the ps brand doubters by now....every gen they count on the downfall of sony

[theonlylolking]

Its because people dont like to get more for their money.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

The only reason Xbox 360 keeps comimg back for more sales is because each time they release a new SKU people go crazy then realise why did they purchase another xbox when the only difference was the hard drive size..

Now with a new xbox touting more added features that PS3 aleady has the people are going crazy again.

and Wireless N ? cmon? theres not a lot of people with wirless N anyway most people are happy with G.

I love my PS3 and i love watching my movies on it and play games on it too..

[electricshadow]

Jeez, I haven't seen a "PS3 doomed" article in a couple months. I was getting worried there for a bit.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

haha

[K-man00]

The reason why Gamethirst´s articles are so retarded.
Because it has retarded people claiming to be journalists.

[cobraagent]

until November for the best selling exclusive game this generation?

[evilmonkey501]

GT5 will murder every game in existence. (sales)

[jagstatboy]

people don't always buy the best thing on the market.

[emil1]

ps3 in first 3.5 years on market has sold 35.7 million units
x360 in first 3.5 years on market has sold 30 million units

ps3 is selling faster. why would that suddenly change?

[Samus HD]

Wii is nr.1

maybe ps3 will outsell 360 - but wii no chance

[evilmonkey501]

Personally, (and I think other feel similar) I dont count the wii sales against xbox360/ps3. I compare it to ps2/xbox sales because it is not a high definition system. Its a Gamecube with a motion controller. I know becuz I have one.

[Samus HD]

yeahh you are right it isnt HD but it is nr.1
what a shame for ps3 and 360 :A.
and imagine if it was HD from the beginning , ps3 and 360 = fail

[Prcko]

oh my god,give me a fucki break with articles like this -----,--,-,--

[Why o why]

if im getting MORE of the BEST games then im good with last place. Been that way since launch and have had more games than the rest therefore keep it coming

[LCS_Furious_Dre]

Its not humanly possible for the PS3 to be last at anything in life. If jesus was here and heard something that negative about a sony product, he would slap the taste out of your mouth.

[EliteAssassin81]

WOW the xbox 360 has sold around 4 million units more than the ps3 and with a year head start. The 360 is a pos even it gets second in sales. After Reach and Gears there isn't going to be much reason to even own a 360, unless you want to pet imaginary animals and catch imaginary balls

[hybridtheory12]

Actually kinect is an additional 120 or 150.

[ForROME]

Well whats the real debate?

Its what = a console gen now, its not 10 years just because someone supports a system that long doesnt make it that GEN still, and its not 5 like it used to be, I say its some where in the middle 7 yrs is about right

With that being said the Wii is 1st, the Xbox 2nd, and the playstation may be 3rd or tied for 2nd well know in 2012

I think the Playstation will pass Xbox at some point however Xbox did it exactly what it set out to do, take a piece of that SONY pie, and Nintendo was a random player that payed off.

7 yrs, from 2005 Wii, Xbox\SONY maybe eithier way SONY def did not remain king like it did from 1995-2004

[My_Outer_Heaven]

The sales I wanna see are Move and Kinect

Which will be more sucessfull?

I want move cuz I have a PS3 but the only Kinect game that blew me away was the dancing one.. I woudlnt mind using that game to improve my dance skills when I go out clubbing.. sure wud impress the ladies if u cud dance like that lol

[whothedog]

I think you would be elbowing everyone on the dance floor haha...

But apparently that dance game might come to the PS3 for Move... But I'm not exactly sure how it would work.

There was another fitness game they were demoing off for Kinect and said it was coming for Move too, I was wondering how they were going to do some parts like the push ups and what have you... but time will tell I guess.

[evilmonkey501]

Remember, the ps3 has a camera as well. With software, it could easily mimic "natal" games too. Kinect may have nicer guts, but really, its just a ps3eye clone.Sony is smart and went BOTH ways, this way it has 2 baskets instead of 1.

[telekineticmantis]

I totally agree that sony didn't and still isn't making the good, necessary and obvious business moves to overtake Microsoft. They should of dropped the Ps3 down to 250$ and advertised a smaller 200$, lastly finishing it with a 300$ model with backwards capability. but they don't wanna overtake microsoft so they are not going to do that.

[My_Outer_Heaven]

I'm all for lower prices but the reason PS3 costs more is mainly due to the built in next generation media format aka blu-ray..

And blu-ray is amazing and will always beat online streamed video.

For extra money you get the best blu-ray player out there which will soon be capable of 3D blu-ray movies aswell as games..

As soon as 3D gets popular and Avatar is out in high def 3D.. even microsoft fan boys will find it awesome..

I didnt wanna buy Avatar in 2D because I saw it in 3D and if its not 3D it wont be the mind blowing experience it was.

So ill wait for 3D version to come out.

If i get desperate to watch it im sure I cud get it cheap on DVD.

[telekineticmantis]

When it comes to non-core gamers and mothers and family buying presents. They will not be looking at that, and from my experience they will not be told about the advantages PS3 has. Most of the Fanboy sales people will be 360 fankids so they are more likely to talk about 360 advantages. So all these people are gonna see are prices that's all. They are gonna see 360 arcade versions for sub 200$ and PS3s for 300$... easy choice for them. Especially at a time when microsoft is launching new(redisigned) hardware Sony needs a price drop or it's a guaranteed holiday season fail I promise you.

[TheBreezyBB]

Xbox has been out for 5 years and PS3 for less then 4 years and the Gap is 4.5Mil... let's just wait until the end of the year 2011, then decide who's wining and who's losing in terms of sales.

[whothedog]

Yeah I'm glad it's in last, it seems to make them work harder to try and get out of last place which benefits me. I don't hold stock in Sony so I could care less about their sales. As long as they keep doing what they are doing I will be happy.

It's always a pissing contest to some people.

[Gambit07]

Who cares! Just give me the games.

[madmonkey0]

funny he says Microsoft is always a step ahead, yet their slim came out a year later, and is pretty similar to the original ps3. but still not as good

[SilverSlug]

with 3D, Camera controls, HD media.

[madmonkey0]

they (ms) have been 3 steps behind since the ps3 launched

[KingPin]

Love the negativity on this site! everything is doom and gloom! either that or its flamebait garbage thats not even worth printing it out to wipe my ass with! heres an idea for all these so called gaming journalists. write a positive article about any console of your choice, just state the positives of that console without bashing or comparing it to another console. If your English isn't of A-grade quality <Hiphopgamer> do it in table form.

P.S- just a thought, why is there no articles stating why the 360/ps3 will never catch up to the Wii. is the wii not a console? is nintendo not a gaming company anymore? Even better, when this console "race" is over, who wins? the xbox/ps3/wii owners? what do they win? free games for support? a free next gen console perhaps? just a thought.

[madmonkey0]

some people consider the Wii as a last gen console, and is competing with the ps2. and not the 360 and ps3.

[SilverSlug]

look at the flamebait title.

[CaptainPunch]

I agree, no point of clicking on the link.

[BYE]

Agreed, really bad article as always from GT.

I keep rating this site down but it always stays at 1.5 stars.

[AKS]

Well-written? Seriously?

"Now, in almost every department, Microsoft is outselling Sony. Kinect is beating Move, and Xbox 360 S is beating the PS3."

Kinect is beating Move? I don't think either have been released. It's a bit early to make those sorts of ridiculous assumptions.

Of course the new 360 slim is selling like mad. It's a new SKU, and there has been a recent shortage of PS3 Slims.

The only solid reasoning in this article is that the 360 will see an increase in sales because they dropped the price again, and that should be common sense to anyone.

The 360 may indeed sell like mad, but nothing about his silly article provides much insight into the situation.

[silvacrest]

i just dont care any more

when the next gen comes i doubt the install base of either the PS3 or 360 will mase MS or sony rethink making another console, so for me, i does not matter

[table]

I predict the ps3 will be around longer than the 360 and it will eventually overtake it over the next couple of years so I disagree with the article. However, it's all academic because sony has lost big this gen whereas microsoft have gained big. The victory is with microsoft regardless whether or not the ps3 overtakes the 360. I'm ignoring the wii here of course.

[M4ndat0ry_1nstall]

I mean, people still believed the world was flat even when it was proven it wasn't.

Unless Sony tell them, they won't believe. It's sad really, PS3 fans are good people misguided by a false god :(

[corywebb93]

I agree with this article

[rekof]

hahahaha"""!!!
haha""!!

OMG ! Fucking stupid xbox fanboys,..

hahahahahahaaaaaa OMG ,.. I pissed in my pants,.. need a shower ,..brb

[R0me]

Read the article? Yes, I did. And it is biased.
You ask why? Let me tell you:

He says MS is always a step in front of Sony... ah sure, MS knows all Sony plans so they can always be in front, what bullshit.

Kinect is beating Move? Can I have your glass ball, please? I want so see the future too.

He says "globals console sales" of Amazon. So he checked every lands amazon website?
Sure, believe it. I live in germany and wii + ps3 is in front of xbox slim.

Well the consoles have the same price. BUT did he mention PS3 has a blu-ray player, no he didnt, and why? Because he is obviously a Xbox 360 fanboy, who is doin stealth troll articles. I could write much more, but its senseless anyway.

And now give disagrees to the people, who say the aticle is well written and similar bullshit.

[DJexs]

I do not have any idea what they are talking about. Here in Minnesota they are never out of stock. Walmarts have them overstock. Just because gamestop doesn't have them instock doesn't mean they are scarce go to a different store and look.

[kws1065]

and I don't think Kinect will help 360 sales, either (MOVE will not help PS3 sales, either).

Moreover, I don't think SCE will do nothing for next 3 years, either. Soon, 250g PS3 slim will become 299 in stead of 349, and that simple change breaks the reasoning of this article.

The article based on a temporary situation like this is nothing but a flaimbait, like a firework.

[shark97]

somebody should tell him about the 299 slim and the fact that ps3 is out selling the 360 for 10 months in a row :)

[bjornbear]

*whispers* that would make "them" have psychosomatic breakdowns and die.

[meganick]

I completely disagree that PS3 will end up in last place. Remember how Microsoft immediately and completely abandoned the original Xbox as soon as they released the Xbox 360? Well, Microsoft will likely do that again and abandon the 360 when they release its successor. Meanwhile, Sony will continue to support the PS3 even with the PS4 on the market. By that point the PS3 will be dirt cheap, and it will fly off the shelves as an inexpensive gaming machine and blu ray player.

[Supman]

They make these useless articles to make
them feal better about thing like thier
xbox.

[lpfisher]

Wow, ok; I've noticed an influx of mediocre writers lately. At least half of the articles that have been approved over the past 2 weeks have been complete trash; not in content, but in writing ability. This writer, for example, can not write.

As for the article itself, I don't necessarily agree. I'm not sure PS3 is going to overtake 360, it's hard to tell; but if M$ does come out on top, it won't be because of Kinect. It's also a stretch to say that the 360 S is keeping them a step ahead. If anything, the 360 S is just M$'s attempt at playing catch-up. Bigger hdd for the same price? This argument is a little tired, in my opinion. Can you go buy a 500g hdd and install it in a 360? Nope. I bought the 40g. PS3 when it launched and installed a 500g drive.

Microsoft might seem to have the edge, but Sony offers the most value. They might not end up with the largest install base, but they've already won in terms of quality, exclusives, and not having a pandemic of hardware failures.

[bjornbear]

it brings back memories *nostalgia in eyes*

anyway, this is pure utter bullshit. It's impossible to tell until the product life cycle is over and you take in lifetime sales from release to discontinuation.

[BubblesDAVERAGE]

Just because it has a better Library and more games ( exclusives) coming out and end up probably in second maybe even first...Xbox is only seeing a surge because of the S but overall its just fanboys re-buying about 3 xbox 360s over and over again...
U losers still think Halo and GeOw sell systems...I will laugh in your face come this holiday season

[gano]

Yup leave it to M$ with that jerk ass looser mentality.
If we can't be no1, then no one will or will tarnish gamin till no one enjoys it.
This downplay, bribery,bickering, overpricing, bs needs to stop.
Because of them look at the topics now, everybody is a "gamer" and yet got the nerve to bash those who understand how multiplat games effect the ind.
Alot of bubblegum games are coming out, cause after 2 or less months their cheaper then annouced/flawed and glitchy. And no one talks about them. Now every game has a hot right now type of feel. Like music/clothes.
This shyt causes headaches. I've been playin since nes in kindergarten, this time its really pushing me out all together. They lied on live tv and u "gamers " still defend them. WTF!?
hdmi not needed, bluray not needed.
fuck it cars are not needed use a horse. that overpriced webcam is needed and the hardcore will convert to casual. wth!?

[wissam]

Anther flambait article. Like it or not the ps3 is the best console in this generation. just like the ps1 and ps2 in the previous generations.

[PantherDST]

Only a rabid fan can make the claims this author makes... Why can't people just enjoy the system they have without trying to demonize the other system.

[djfullshred]

One has to consider how long a race is, and where the finish line really is before placing bets on who will win. I wouldn't put my money on a sprinter in a marathon race.

[pinkyxyz]

.............................. wut?

[N4BmpS]

I wasn't expecting to like this article however, it makes a lot of grim and good points Sony just tripped over their own two feet. When I heard about the $600 price point my heart fell and I was angry and lets face it though it had the best tech for a console no one would want to get a second job for a piece of tech that no one really knew how it would perform once they got it in their homes. I bought a PS3 for 400 I think, I love it.

Although one point I did not agree with personally was releasing the PS3 in 05, it wasn't ready and quite frankly I'm willing to bet that it would be less satisfying in performance (sigh insert sex joke here)(and another one for that). I don't know how this console generation is gonna end but as far as I tell it'll end nothing like last year for example NGC only sold 21 million all consoles this gen sold over that amount, so some strategies do not need to be repeated.

I also want to say, the title choice was horrible the article may not have been all that bad but all XBOXfanboys saw was the title and another thing it's time to move on past Sony's PAST mistakes. that was what 4 years ago? Come on.

[MaximusPrime]

i seen this before. remember an article saying that HD DVD will beat Bluray thus leaving PS3 in 3rd place?

well that article has made itself an embarrassment. Xbox 360 was 3rd and still is

[yoghurt]

Do people even care about 'place'?

I couldn't care less if the ps3 is in 9th place, so long as Sony is giving it the support it currently is, and producing THE best exclusives this generation at a rapid right, then we have a very good reason to be happy

the hardware revision for the xbox will save its sales for a while, meaning it won't be outsold worldwide for a little while giving it some reprieve, but without the software support it will soon slow back down again

true gamers will go where the games are, and at the moment that is on Ps3

[N4BmpS]

I agree with and unfortunately yes some people do care about place, journalist big and small emphasize on it way too much. One of my biggest problems with the gaming community is that fact. People from time to time wonder what happened to the gaming industry, I personally think it's too much competition, too much ignorance and too many articles like this. Part of the reason why this console generation sucks is because of the fans and the journalism not the games. I hope that came out right and didn't sound redundant.

[djfullshred]

Competition is a good thing. Both Microsoft & Sony are forced to keep improving their products to stay in the game, because of their fierce competition.

But you are right about too much ignorance with the gaming community. They don't seem to understand how much the competition benefits them. Instead of wishing the other brand to fail, they should be wishing both brands keep up the fight against each other with improvements to the product, & more top quality games to play.

[N4BmpS]

Exactly, instead of the fans saying " Oh well hey I have one of those consoles (or both) that's great for me" or "Man Sony is stepping their game up I wonder how MS will counter? I know they will" they say "Oh God I hate the PS3/360 it needs to go away." Or " 360 suck or PS3 sucks," which shouldn't be the focal point of this console generation.

[moho-foe]

I would like to know how many Xbox slims are being bought by people who have a Xbox already and how much of the "install base" has RROD. Because I have a felling there are lots of dead Xbox's still being counted

[Seferoth75]

Gotta love Sony fanboys. Like getting second place means their console wins.. Even though to win they need to outsell the Wii.
I know some Sony fanboy will make an excuse like they are not competing with Wii but then that's a really stupid thing to say with Move being a direct copy of the Wii remote.

Obviously they are competing or Sony wouldnt be copying what they called a failed gimmick.

Wii is still outselling it 2-1, but I know some fanboys are going to cry and disagree and pull up something that has nothing to do with what I am saying and acting like they have a valid point.

It's a casual gamers system after all. Singstar has outsold a good portion of hardcore AAA titles on PS3. I mean it doubled the sales of Demon souls.

[jneul]

So one week of good sales for x360, where the rest of the year it has been in ps3's shadow, the x360s release is in no way a defeat look at ps3 slim release it outsould the x360 by a huge amount, selling 500k consoles in one week, MS have frankly killed all their chances by not reducing the price of the new slim and introducing it at the wrong time of the year, sales will die down quickly, most of the sales was people cashing in on clearance sales on the x360, those x306's aint gonna be around for long lol.
Just wai till GT5 comes out and watch ps3 disgrace the x360 again, I mena how many more times can it cut it's price, it's already cheaper than the wii it does not really have much more room for trying to outdo the ps3 any longer, all sony has to do is reduce ps3 to $199 and x360 will die, and ps3 will even outsell the wii at that price / end stupid flaimbait that reminds us all of 2007

[TheOrion]

The author speaks as if the slim 360 delivers something spectacular, and considering ps3 slim 250gb version exists their first point is already null.

As for whining about the initial price tag as a reason why, are they quick to forget the ps2 pricing on launch, particularly in the EU, and that's Sony's bestselling console so far.

Console sales isn't a race its a marathon, but since I have no invested interest in this, I'll just file this under not important and keep playing the games I like on the systems I choose.

[PSjesus]

Even though i doubt it,Quality over Quantity.
Keep in mind high failing rate and PIRACY-FREE GAMES people's favorite word-

[Phil Mc Crackin]

Those 8 gig games get me so hot! My nipples are tingleing.

[abdullah nazhat]

I don't understand the whole fanboys thing , when I was a child I started gaming with super Nintendo and played Sega mega drive at the same time with my cousins in thier home then I bought a ps1 ,and I have to say Sony machines still represent the best bargain that I will gladly put my cash into and if sony went down I wont stop gaming I'll buy whatever best console that will be in the market ,peace to all gamers whatever side they chose .

[Raoh]

another ps3 price cut will change everything again..

[dizzleK]

who gives a shit? stop worrying about it and play some games. i don't worry about the place in the market of anything i buy so why should i care about a console? i owned a 3DO, jaguar and dreamcast, obviously sales don't matter to me.

as we speak more people bought a 360 or wii. so friggen what? i don't see the ps3 being starved for games or support.

[GrizzlyMedia]

360 can't win for losing but at some point to this post a other 360 or Microsoft post like it i,m not actually hoping or even praying that 360 will ever win anything its not like its going to win a GOLD MEDAL for being the console for outselling the PS3.

but as for the ps3 its in a good place for GAMES & GAMERS alike no body wants a 360 they think the 360 is better because it gives you all then AWESOME features but that's not what most people want on ps3 like FACEBOOK MYSPACE LAST.FM<---wait a minute why? did MS want a music player for 360 you could already play music while playing games? and play music there after while you not playing anything huh... all bullsh!t features it don't need

SONY has WAAAAAAAAY more 1st party games then MS YES true MS got all the 3rd party crap that is good in some way but it just can't touch PS3 1st party games

what do the 360 & MS has not much compared to SONY or the SMARTS that comes from SONY they are very smart i,m not worried about features on PSN or even the PS3 like cross game chat or music in game what makes the PS3 "IT THE GAMES PEOPLE" not feature WHAT MAKES THE 360 MONEY.

[hoops]

Here is the issue at hand. How many 1st/2nd party games are released in one year on average?
It's about 4-5 IF you're lucky. Of those games 30% are good.
Now how many games are released in a year that are 3rd party? 50+ or more.
You cannot get by just with 1st/2nd party games. You need all three.
Its the same as only relying on 3rd party games.
So in fact Sony and MS are on the same side of the coin. Sony relies on 1st/2nd party games and MS isdoing what Sony did last generation and relying on 3rd party games first.
And the result? MS and SONY are no where near Nintendo that is kicking their asses from here to eternity

[iliimaster]

really? r u serious this article lol

[Lord Gunchrote]

This article blows donkey balls.

[kneon]

and the gap about halved in that timeframe. That doesn't seem like they are "one step in front to assure that the PS3 does not catch up". They are in reactive mode. We saw huge software increases with the release of the PS3 slim indicating that the majority of PS3 buys were new customers. I suspect that at least for now that the majority of XBox slim buyers are existing customers looking for an upgraded, quieter and hopefully more reliable Xbox.

We'll have a better indication in 3-6 months, then we'll be able to see if the sales increase has legs and whether software sales increase. If the software sales don't show a significant increase then the console sales increase is mostly just existing XBox owners upgrading.

[chewmystink]

Honestly this site is getting really bad with comments being like a friggin novel, way too long man!!!
Keep it short concise, I'm sure the only one that reads the long comments is the actual user who posted it.

[Thudd]

If you defend the 360 on this site, you will only have 1 bubble. Thats the fact Jack. I wouldnt dismiss some users arguement just because he/she has only 1 bubble, it just means they speak well of the 360 console.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

LOL what is with all the 360 victim role playing on this site nowadays? Please be real wit yourself and stop acting like the xbox gets more or less attacks than PS3. It goes both ways, but it's almost asinine that people just want to forget how much mud was covering PS3 for it's first 2 years on the market, from every angle.

[04soldier]

Back in 2006 these articles were up to opinions of the author writing the article. If the media didn't like the Ps3 at the time they dissed it. Heck I even remember a cover EGM where a tomato was smashed against it and they proceeded to call the console worthless.

So stop acting like everyone's a mean ps3 zealot.

[Nevers]

Maybe arguing who would win in a free fight might get more sanity... this site is ridiculous. The stupidity on here is just absolutely ridiculous. That is all: end transmission. This site is like Fox News... completely BS. Glad you changed browsers so I can't stand to even log on that much more.

[ShiftyLookingCow]

Stupid article as usual from Gamethirst.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

If I'm not mistaken, PS3 has for the most part been selling at a faster rate than the 360 worldwide since launch, and I'm talking about since launch, not the new smaller PS3. Now, all of a sudden, am I to believe that all of that is out the window because of a recent week or so in which the 360 has picked up some steam that it lost in recent times? Without getting too deep into all this, PS3 started selling like crazy with the new model because of the price drop, something that many people were waiting for. The new 360 is just a new 360, i.e offered for the same price. It might just be a lot of spur of the moment sales, which would make sense with the immediate shipping of the unit, or it might not be. How about we wait a little longer to see how long this holds up before we once again spell doom and gloom for PS3?

[zerocool3397]

Well until the next console generation we really aint gonna know who is gonna be on top.

PS3ers are gonna say theirs is the better console and Xboxers the same. Harsh reality folks, Nintendo is beating both and its no where near as powerful as the other two and has less people ranting and raving about it.

Here is some facts:

1) Console sales figures change more often than most of you fanboys change your underwear. PS3 top sales one week 360 the week after (just based on those two). Its too early to tell but one thing I know is that whoever wins, there wont be a lot in it.

2) Both the 360 and the PS3 have some awesome games yet nobody can seem to get that in their heads, especially on here.

3) Narrow minded comments just make you look stupid.

[DelbertGrady]

2006 - Just you wait!
2007 - Just you wait!
2008 - Just you wait!
2009 - Just you wait!
2010 - Just you wait!
2011 - Just you wait!

B!tch please.

[04soldier]

half way decent 360 games. Somebody couldn't give me an free xbox. There are no games on the damned thing....

[zerocool3397]

more games on the 360 than there are on the PS3

[etownone]

MS won't drop the price until the Halo train passes so...
I think in November when Kinect is released, MS will drop the price of the current 360S and make that the arcade model at $199,

And the bundled 360s with Kinect will be the new elite at $299.

And of course the Kinect add-on for $99

After that, it's a wrap and will probably start even outselling the Wii.

[AWBrawler]

If a gamecube at $99 dollars with Melee and OOT can't outsell PS2, a 360 with Kinect cannot outsell Wii.ITS TOO LATE! And we know 3DS gone be grabbing attention too from potential HD console owners.

[AWBrawler]

There biggest mistake was there arrogance early on. When Kutaragi was in charge they weren't like this. They were so smug and arrogant saying "next gen starts when we say it do." Not with that initial 599 buck price tag.
Sony needs to realize that most of the PS2 owners where casuals and fans of third party games. third party games that are now on 360 and Wii. They refused to admit they were wrong too.
MS saw there mistake and capitalized this gen. They had the worst library last gen,now they have arguably the best this gen
Nintendo saw their mistake. They had few 3rd party and needed to draw a new crowd. Wii corrected that.
Sony never knew their mistakes, cos they never failed to be number one until now. So they became arrogant Like vegeta claiming to be Prince of all Saiyans. (A dying race as is the PS fanboys) So there mistakes were all in Poor Business Decisions. Its sad too, cos if they did right, they couldv'e been the first to reign supreme three gens. Now it Seems Nintendo will claim that achievement.

They may not be the champs this gen, But they still knowhow to make some pretty impressive consoles. MGS4 still wows me!!!

[redsquad]

First place, last place? Whatever, it doesn't make the PS3 any less impressive and, in my view, a stunning piece of hardware that has yet to let me down.

[ironmonkey]

ahead in sales, sure, everything else, no

[earthbounding]

Reflects what N4G has become. Very sad. I don't remember things being like this last year.

[hoops]

One thing is for certain. The Wii won this generation hands down

[AWBrawler]

be quiet. this N4G, N!gga.you can't say that!!

[hoops]

LMFAO. LOL.
You're right LOL

[04soldier]

and this article seemed as though it was written in 2007 and then buried. 3 years later it arises like a grave zombie to terrorize us all with it's old fanboy logic...

Brains!!

[BlackSharinganX]

ok here my prediction in november both ps3 and xbox are going to have it out with halo and GT5 so its going to be balanced, but in 2011 twisted metal, and if they finally announce something about FF13versus, and it stays exclusive, being one of the most waited rpg's this generation, it can pass xbox in sales, if they dont announce a title themselfs.

[Subzero200x]

because it will never be the ps1? oh because it has no real games? or because it already is.

"Well, the PS3 is selling at a faster rate than the 360.
So obviously, in the end, the PS3 will outsell the 360 and end up in second place, heck, maybe even first place."

lol wake up.

[monkeymagicwin]

"TEH other PS will DOOM" article..so many speculation, which is just rubbish..typical site which just hunt for hit..

[Gene]

The ps3 was still selling like crazy when it was 599$ you wake up.

[spektical]

all i know is that stores around town are full of wiis that arent selling. I was actually quite surprised when i walked in to Costco the other day and found like 50 wii stacked up, i guess everyone thats wants a wii around here has one lol.

[Prcko]

let's move !

[xg-ei8ht]

The wii won Casuals and nintendo faithful

The 360 won early next gen adopters and ms diehards.

The PS3 is slowly winning back it's audience.

I'm actually interested in how many units PS3 sells november time. GT5.

[AWBrawler]

You're banking on GT5 to bring them up? really? Okay, its official. Sony fans are way more optimistic than Nintendo fans. I don't remember saying Zelda wind Waker, or Twilight Princess would make the Cube reign supreme, because I know better. I swear this gen is really Showing how dumb some gamers can be. I'm a fan of Nintendo and I am not denying that, but even I know when they've lost and admitted it last gen, so why are Sony fans so scared to say "We lost this time." or "We could've done better."? This will forever perplex me.

Whoever thinks the Wii can be stopped now, but be the same idiots who thought the PS2 could be stopped, or PS1, or SNES, or NES. ITS TOO LATE IN THE GAME. Before Nintendo Lose their spot,they'll release a new console (Which I'm sure they have ready almost)or they hype the hell out of 3DS. either way Sony's best bet is to beat MS. I bet even Sony don't believe they'll beat Wii.

They made poor decisions this gen. Lets face it. It doesn't Make MGS4, UC1 and 2, Ratchet and clank, and the like any less great. It just means they are not the top seller this gen. Admit it. Get over it. And Happy Gaming

[cyclindk]

"...said rejoicing was short lived..."

Constant gains after entering the market one year later and at a significantly higher price point...

I'm just saying (dot, dot, dot).

The PS3 is equipped with hardware that extends it's proposed longevity FAR beyond that of ANY Xbox console to date or for the foreseeable future (is the next Xbox REALLY gonna include a built in blu-ray player?) add-ons usually always fail.

PS3 owners and future owners will be set for the next five or six years AT LEAST!

[mopground]

content wins a console war not sales....look at the wii

[jjesso1993]

if ps3 was say not only 5million behind you think we would seeing content the ps3 has sales = more money more trust from 3rd party developers that means theres more games will sell making more content for ps3 and bigger budget for sony througth royalties = more 1st party games you can sit there saying more sales dont help but they sure do. xbox 360 in comparision sold terrible with all advantages its had cheaper came out sooner 5 million lead with one year in market is terrible and when gt5 comes M$ are screwed there wont be gap look past figures on ps2 look how many ps2 units gt sold.

[IHateYouFanboys]

the PS3 WILL outsell the 360 eventually, i have no doubt about that.

but will it do it in a short enough timeframe to make microsoft scared or worried? no. its already been 4 years and the PS3 has only cut the 8 million headstart the 360 had when the PS3 launched to 5 million. so hey, in another 6 years or so the PS3 will have outsold the 360. but noone will care by then, cause we'll be playing our xbox 720 and PS4.

[despair]

Hey How's everyb....*looks at the room of scary fanboys*...ok bye bye.

[ReBurn]

First place, last place. What does it matter?

[Claudinho69]

because america is dumb

[KratosGod3]

I can't believe how many s*tupid people still buying that Sh!t of system call x360.
I'm Fu**ing Impressed!!!

[Jason143]

Ps2 is the clear winner with wii in 2nd :P

[floetry101]

The 360 slim, while enjoying some cool features and additions, lacks the versatility to stop the PS3 in the long run. The whole "future-proof" argument for Sony goes hand-in-hand with blu-ray compatibility, the next logical step from DVD. It's been beneficial to not only those who watch movies, but those who play games, and has allowed developers to really push the envelope on a plethora of recent releases.

Secondly, developers are beginning to utilize the console to it's full potential with the PS3 becoming the lead-platform for new games, resulting in the best possible PS3 game, without the porting issues. Surely this will see a rise in the sales for multi-platform games on the PS3.

Lastly, you mentioned the hard-drive, and the fact that Sony don't offer anything larger than the 360 slim. While you are right to an extent, Sony's console can use any form of laptop hard-drive, with many holding 1TB of data. It's this kind of versatility that allows the console to push forward. Can you replace the 360 slim drive with something bigger? Maybe in due time, but by then it will be too late.

[IHateYouFanboys]

the PS3 is not future proof, no matter how much Sony like to tell you it is.

blu-ray is a storage medium, thats it. it does NOT give you more RAM. it does NOT give you more processing power. it does NOT give you more characters on screen. all it does is let you store more on the disc.

neither of these consoles are future proof. hardware with non-upgradable internals CAN NOT be future proof. and no, being able to change the HDD does not count, as its just storage space.

[floetry101]

Did I say it was future proof from a hardware perspective?

Blu-ray works as a storage medium. DVD hasn't. Lost Planet 2 anyone? A negligible difference perhaps, but we've seen the size of Final Fantasy XIII as well. If compressed videos, lower resolutions and 3 discs is preferrable, then all power to you buddy.

As for the HDD, I don't think there is any point in arguing it, considering you couldn't address mine.

[IHateYouFanboys]

lol so when you say future proof, you mean from a software perspective?

epic lols!

DVD has proven that it was the right choice for microsoft. currently there are 4 multi-disk games out of the 500+ released for the 360. 4. out of 500+. that says it all. it was either delay the console by 12+ months to add blu-ray/hd-dvd, neither of which were ready at the 360s launch, and add an extra $200 on to the price of the console, or take a calculated risk and use DVD which will more than likely be fine for this generation.

they chose the option that would get them the biggest advantage saleswise, release wise, and cost wise. it worked brilliantly, as with only 4/500+ games needing more room than a DVD gives, and letting them be 5 million sales plus ahead 4 years after the competition launched.

but please, tell me how the PS3 is 'future proof' because of blu-ray lol. this will be interesting to say the least.

[Spenok]

I read through the Article and it doesnt seem like they put much effort or even research into it before they wrote it. Now the 360 getting a temporary boost because of the new Slim model is nice, but i dont see that and the Kinect being big enough reasons for the 360 to keep its rise in console sales. W/o a good first party lineup of games, now dont get me wrong here, Halo, Fable, Gears, and Crackdown are all nice and good (and of course there are some others like N3-2 but lets be honest those wont sell consoles) but doesnt it seem a little odd that Microsofts 2010 lineup looks Exactly the same as there 2008 lineup? Again idk, its possible the 360 will continue ahead, but i guess we'll just have to wait and see.

[ATi_Elite]

For a console that started a year and a half later and with a retail price of $600 I think the PS3 is in a good position only 5 million behind the xbox 360.

The PS3 may or may not finish last in hardware sales but it definitely is the first place winner with the best games.

Let's not forget how many xbox 360's gamers had to re-buy because of RROD.

Also I really don't think Sony cares because they are still selling the PS2 like crazy. PS3 + PS2 + PSP + PSPgo = great revenue for Sony.

[Moonboots]

Okay, this stuff is like pouring gas on a fire on N4G.

Why even care about place any more? It means nothing these days besides some fake victory in your head(unless you own stock).

I know it sounds cliche but all 3 consoles have sold enough to have significant bases to warrant all developers attention. In the past, selling more consoles meant getting more support from third parties. This generation has proven that third parties are supporting all equally due to financial reasons.

A close race between these 3 means more for us. It keeps them constantly trying new things and trying to add value.

No matter what place they end up in I can say without doubt I've been a happy gamer. And well I only serve one king and his name is gaming no matter the position just bring me good games!

[ATi_Elite]

Your right it doesn't matter but this argument will get your websites some hits that might translate into advertising dollars.

[jalen247]

I am willing to bet my precious 60 GB (now 500 GB) PS3 that Sony will not be in third place this gen.

It is inevitable that Microsoft will be in third place.

[Tron_Rocks]

Taking features away with firmwares!
Promising PS2 compatibility!

WTF? I own a PS3 and can play PS3 games and PS1 games only!?!?!?

This is two big reasons it will come in 3rd

[Lucent Beam]

I don't care to read all the annoying fanboy banter comments here, but I have to say that I completely disagree with the article. There is absolutely no way that the PS3 will end up with the smallest install base. There is no doubt in my mind that the longer this generation goes on and the more dated the 360 seems to appear, it will pass it. I can't imagine the final standings as anything other than Wii, PS3, and then 360.

[Paradise Lost]

The ps3 will come in 2nd this Gen and will beat the 360 no questions.

[magus]

Who gives a freak who is in what place. If you like playing xbox, get an xbox. If you like playing ps3, get a ps3. If you like playing with your wii, thats fine too. Just play your games and be happy. All these game sites that write this crap need to be pimped slapped and shut down.

[djfullshred]

Yeah, it is funny looking at this from an older gamer's perspective. When I was a kid, we didn't have Internet game forums to waste time arguing over this stuff. We didn't pick sides on hardware, because we wanted as many toys as we could get. Kids these days that close off half the possibilities by being fanboys are their own worst enemy. They are putting self imposed restrictions on themselves of what games they will play by being fanboys.

[danthebios]

It got slimmer,more memory,but wait....no blu ray?only dvd,man,that is so outdated.waste of money.I Pitty da fool dat bought it,i pitty da fool.

[floetry101]

"Future proof" is argument Sony is putting out there. I thought I made that clear but obviously not. Perhaps the reason for most 360 games fitting to a single disc is because it has been used as the lead platform for the last 5 years, and why not, it's been successful enough. Perhaps because blu-ray wasn't an option that was pushed in '05 as being the successor.

In layman's terms, more space = more content, and that's quickly become apparent now after E3, and will become a bigger problem for Microsoft these next few years. DVD's are far from being PHASED OUT, but it's not a viable gaming option going into the future. Not sure why you're getting so worked up over it, the PS3 was made as 10 year run in mind, the 360 isn't concerned about the long-run, as is evident with the previous xbox.

[deividpaulo]

hahahahha...you must be 12 years old....

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

The ps3 will not catch up. But let me throw you some facts in your face...

Last Gen:
PS2: 143 million sold
Xbox: 24 million sold
Gamecube: 22 million sold

AND NOW WE HAVE...

Wii: 70 million sold
Xbox 360: 40 million sold
ps3: 35 million sold

It doesn't take a genius to see which 2 companies have made a huge jump forward and what company made a huge step backwards.

[deividpaulo]

just in your AMERICAN opinion!!!

[MORGiON]

Wouldn't the huge step back be the 360 and its shoddy hardware?

[Claudinho69]

ya because this generation is over right? lol ps3 has just started

[Dungus]

First!

[BIGBOSS08]

10 months of ps3 completely hammering 360, even outselling it by 1 million over 2 weeks in december and not even 1 article like this about it. 360 outsells ps3 for 1 week and this is what happens. thats whats wrong with 360 fanboys. never freakin learn!

[Greek God]

i dont care for sony being last...
i played some of the best games in my live
for that i thank you sony

[Aggesan]

They even admit that they were in the group of journalists who doomed PS3 in the beginning, so why would their doom predictions be any more correct this time around?

[deividpaulo]

The Reasons Why THIS RIDICULOUS "ARTICLE" Will End Up In last Place IN THIS FANBOY SITE (N4xboxGAMERS)

The xplode360 time is over...the new xplode360 (slim) is already with 3RL...hahahahahha

[nirvana_sky]

i support ps3!!!

[CookieCrisp]

xbox 360

[Krew_92]

I know I am judging before seeing, but really? No one can see into the future...

[Dellis]

PS3 came out at 599.99

it was doomed from the get go, sony don't care about winning

they 2 gens before.

[gumgum99]

So what this article is saying is:

"Microsoft released the 360 slim! PS3 slim is doomed"!!

[codehorizon]

this is getting out of control. To be honest, I loved my X360 until I was able to afford my PS3, then I stuck with it. It saved and still saves me money, but that's beside the point. Everyone is still stuck on, "but the 360 is the best PS3 is crap" and visa-versa. Just play the friggin' games for what they are and leave this immature banter of which console is better alone because I swear it feels like November 11, 2006 everyday with this finger pointing.

[TruthbeTold]

these kinds of articles...

[dj55555555]

The PS3 will only come in third if the 360 slim is as unreliable as the original so owners will have to keep buying more, or if you have some fetish for buying out of date tech "DVD anyone?... and ooh lets have some fondue".

[0321]

How do you figure that it will be in last place? PS3 is outselling Xbox. Every place I go PS3 is sold out. I had to wait two weeks to get my PS3. And since I got mine. I haven't seen one since in Walmart,Shopkoo or Bestbuy...

[zorg729]

First off...liar, liar, LIAR! PS3 is the lead seller worldwide exept for the US. The X3fixme doesn't sell crap in any other country! But, by the next year or 2, PS3 will outsell the x3fixme in the US. YOU PEOPLE JUST WATCH, I WILL PUT MY LIFE ON THAT PERDICTION! So all you X3fixme fanboys out there who think the freaking x3fixme is better...it's not...it sucks. gosh i cant stand people who think the x3fixme is better! well...watever, you'll see...o yes, YOU WILL SEE! we will win this war and u guys will hide. I swear...

[Jack Klugman]

Knods in agreement.

Yup.