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Should PSN Include SOE MMO Access on PS3?

DualShockers writes, "When PSN+ was announced at E3 2010, no one was really shocked by any of the details given, early beta access, possibly some cross-game chat, pretty expected stuff. However, I was not disappointed at the lack of shock value in this announcement. My own personal disappointment lies in a business decision by SONY and Sony Online Entertainment with regards to MMO pricing. The PS3 is the perfect platform for MMOs, but if there are multiple MMOs and they’re charging for all of them, it kind of defeats the purpose of marketing to the same group. I proposed an idea a while back that I sincerely felt SONY could have thought of alone, but it appears that this iceberg is heading towards the PS3 and the MMO demographic is about to smash into it.

First of all, there is a big problem with charging fees for every MMO game on PS3 at once and expecting them all to be successful. Obviously third parties will do whatever they want. Regardless of of...."

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Hitman07695487d ago

Seems to me that this would be a huge benefit to having PSN+ , I would be willing to pay double.

yess5487d ago

It could be very cool, but that means a lot of free content...
Someone have to make a living, and earn money.

Pay double is a bit to much though...

WildArmed5487d ago (Edited 5487d ago )

I agree. (not about paying double, but SOE MMO Access being a great addition to PSN+)
I'd shell out the money next week if this was confirmed.

nnotdead5487d ago

same with me. the monthly fee is the biggest reason i've never gotten into an MMO.

Biggest5487d ago

The nature of MMOs won't allow it. There has to be some kind of income for them to support the game. Though it would be nice, it won't happen.

deafwing5487d ago

This would make all those MMO games, especially Final Fantasy XIV more popular. This would a good move for them but more so for us.

HighDefinition5487d ago

Yes, it would be a great idea.

specialguest5487d ago (Edited 5487d ago )

Don't expect third-party games like FF14 to be covered by PSN Plus, and that's IF PSN Plus covers MMO. The PS3 will get the same treatment with FF14 just as the 360 & PS2 got with FF11.

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saint_john_paul_ii5487d ago

yes, there should be, not just SOE mmo games, but all MMO games.

its should be part of the PSN+ service.

Hitman07695487d ago

Third parties would never agree to this, but I honor you for trying!

MGRogue20175487d ago (Edited 5487d ago )

... This PSN+ membership thing should really have alot more features..

taz80805487d ago

THis lost Sony some serious points with gamers since they always touted free. Icluding MMO subs would be awesome

JoelT5487d ago

but because of the way MMO's are structured and the upkeep required will keep it at a separate price. Although it is unfortunate.

ruiner44825487d ago

Touted what as free?? PSN is free...

Tony-A5487d ago (Edited 5487d ago )

I can't believe I got a bubble taken off for a fucking joke. I posted a video to a rimshot, confirming my comment was a joke, and the mods still insisted I really was trolling....

Yet when two people give me a bubble+, IT NEVER FUCKING SHOWS UP! You mods are idiots. Yeah, I said it. Sue me.

On Topic: Cool. Only reason I'm even replying to the topic is because yet another bubble could be easily taken off for Off Topic-ness.....

Anon73495487d ago

This new bubble system is broken I got mine tooken off for stupid BS.

+Bub for you

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Square Enix is “aware” of Final Fantasy XIV player numbers dropping

Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu discusses the dropping player count of Final Fantasy XIV and the numerous projects of YoshiP.

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jznrpg3d ago

It’s really old now. All great MMOs decline.

PRIMORDUS3d ago

Also who wants to keep paying a monthly fee every month, there are other options like Guild Wars 2 😁with no monthly fee and while not that many people overall compared to FF XIV, it did increase to about 21 mil now.

Sephiroushin2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I prefer to pay since i do not like guild wars and it keep kids away, but FF14 decreased on quality since they started to make it "more accessible", tried throne and liberty and while it was okay it has so many issues, same for dune awakening... Its time to start making a new FF MMO

kaewcha7343d ago

Looks like Square Enix is self-aware but still stuck in place, they see the player drop and apologize for the bugs, but nothing really changes. Shame, FFXIV used to be the gold standard

Servbot413d ago

My entire free company has stopped playing. The writing has consistently gotten worse and the content is sparse and lacking; unless you are a hardcore player there's very little for you to do. They are over-catering to the people who will grind three+ times a week on a single fight for multiple months when the playerbase by large doesn't want that sort of content. Square needs to dedicate more resources to the game instead of wasting them on mobile and other live service slop.

Miraak82 2d ago

The biggest factor for me is the way they butchered job design over the years , the casualization and over simplification really hurt a good chunk of enjoyment I used to have . Jobs lost any form of complexity and just became " press glowing button" DDR style for fighting where the gameplay loop is a about the 2 minute burst window . They removed most DoTS, timer mechanics , cast times, pets, RNG ect and all around homogenized everything . When you try and can cater to everyone ... you cater to no one .

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Sony Faces Class Action in the Netherlands Over Allegedly Inflated PlayStation Store Prices

Mass Damage & Consumer Foundation in the Netherlands has filed a class action against Sony for inflating PlayStation Store prices.

dveio7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

My personal opinion:

Manufacturers and publishers have indeed inflated the industry.

From $700 million development costs for games like Call of Duty, to digital (store) prices for games and DLCs, online multiplayer fees on consoles (why can you play Helldivers 2 online for free on PC but not consoles?) or still preventing sell/lend digitally purchased games.

Sometime in the future, this bubble will collapse.

They should know better, but they just can't help themselves and suck even the last penny out of our wallets.

BeHunted7d ago

Because Sony knows people will be forced to pay those prices for single player and multiplayer games, not everyone prefers PC gaming. Sony also has a monopoly on PlayStation digital games. In 2019, they stopped allowing retailers and game key sellers to sell PlayStation digital games, making them available only through the official PlayStation Store

anast7d ago

The Dutch gov. wants a piece of the pie.

Eonjay7d ago

They should be suing the individual publishers increasing the prices to $80 instead of suing the store. There are plenty of publishers still selling game for like $50 with much success (like E33). But this proves that the publishers are the ones setting the prices.... so again nothing changes because they aren't even going after the main offender. How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD? Sony being the number one store in the market doesn't mean that publisher have to charge us an arm and a leg. Again the industry is laughing at us because consumers never get real representation. Just these fake platitudes that are meaningless.

BeHunted7d ago

"How is suing Sony going to make Microsoft not charge $80 for the next COD"

Because Microsoft doesn't have a monopoly, I can purchase Call of Duty at a huge discount from CDKeys or other gaming retailers. The only way to purchase digital PlayStation games is through the PlayStation Store.

djl34857d ago

Weird, I swore GoW, Stellar Blade, Horizon Zero Dawn, TLoU, etc. were on the steam store....uh.....

BeHunted7d ago (Edited 7d ago )

@djI3485

I'm talking about PlayStation games that you can only purchase on PlayStation. I can purchase Steam and Epic games from 3rd party retailers and key stores.

"Sony to stop selling full-game download codes at retailers"

https://www.videogamer.com/...

Killer2020UK7d ago

About time. There is zero fair reason why digitally distributed products that you cannot recoup any value when you want to dispose of them, should be priced higher than that of physical copies that entail all of the costs and the benefits of owning.

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FF14 lead apologises as the “quality of service has declined recently” as they fell into complacency

YoshiP, the director and producer of Final Fantasy 14, has apologised for the state of the game at the time of writing.

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CrimsonWing697d ago

Do you not see this happening during development? Like, why are we apologizing after the fact instead of stopping it during development?

Stopac7d ago

Criticism and reflection occur after the fact. The apology acknowledges the past criticisms with the new expansion and they're keeping transparency with players about it. Now that they've acknowledged it - it will be interesting to see what kind of cycle we'll get with a new expansion and I wonder if they're planning something special with beast master since they didn't mention it in the last live letter.

anast7d ago

It's all good, as long as the price of the product decreases.

Stopac7d ago

The base game and expansion go on sale all the time and doesn't stay full price for very long since a new expansion is on the horizon.

If you're stating they should reduce the price of new expansions or the sub fee, no, that's not gonna happen lmao people aren't even complaining about that. They are criticizing the same old pattern of content that releases and how it is devolving into mediocracy.

anast7d ago

"They are criticizing the same old pattern of content that releases and how it is devolving into mediocracy."

The product should be cheaper then.

PapaBop7d ago

I was unhappy with DT and have spent far less time in it than any other expansion but it's things like this that makes me respect Yoshi P. It's rare for such a high profile developer to be so candid in his assessment on a live game.

Stopac7d ago

Same, i've found my self resubbing every two patches instead of keeping it up. Don't own a home in the game so there's no point in keeping a constant sub going. The post story is getting interesting though.