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3D Dot Game Heroes: More Zelda than Zelda?

I picked up this game primarily because, well, it looked like a hilarious parody of Zelda. And if a game is able to make fun of itself well enough to extract laughter out of me, well, that’s just icing on the cake. And so, I figured I would this game would be a shoo-in for me to love.

So imagine my surprise when I wake up to find 3D Dot Game Heroes failing to captivate my interest. I quickly grew frustrated by the sheer difficulty of the game—not quite as difficult as the original game or perhaps Mega Man 9, but still up there! I quickly got bored tracking down the extremely flimsy plot while trekking from one dungeon to another. I quickly grew to dislike the shallow, one-sentence NPCs who populated the games various towns. In fact, I almost talked myself into ejecting the Blu-ray disc out of the PS3, putting it back in its case, and then leaving it on the shelf forever.

But then I discovered something that I had missed the entire time.

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Demons Souls5509d ago

It's certainly more of a Zelda game than those crappy DS Zelda games.

kingdavid5508d ago

I admit I do like it more than the ds zelda games but phantom hourglass and spirit tracks arent "crappy", just flawed.

eagle215508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

A homage is homage but let's not get carried away. 77 on metacritic didn't outscore the DS Zelda's sorry. And don't scream "teh bias"... :)

zireno5508d ago

seriously, a score is what you are basing your opinion on?? I have almost all of the zelda games, and it is my favorite franchise. but you have to give credit where credit is due, and 3d dot game heroes is easily a better zelda than the DS games. And when you can play this game as link (with the creation tools) you can't deny the greatness of it. If you haven't played it you really should, and if you have and still think the DS games are better...well... that's that.

eagle215508d ago

Do you hear yourself? You can even play as Link? This game is not The Legend of Zelda and eurogamer gave it a 6/10. And I have to agree. ;)

Like I said, a homage is a homage..but let's not get carried away...lol

nycredude5508d ago

eagle

Did you play the game? Or are you just a Zelda fanboy who reads a review and agrees with it even though it's lower than the average review out?

zireno5508d ago

Yes i did hear myself, and yes you CAN play as link and as a true zelda fan I can recognize when a game is better than other. If you are the kind of gamer that bases his opinions on reviews instead of experience from playing the game well... all I can do is feel bad for you. At least give the game a try. I know it's a homage, but it's so beautifully executed that it FEELS LIKE a true zelda (being that it's obviously based on a link to the past).

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Cheeseknight285508d ago

Little overboard to call the DS games "crappy" IMO, but I will say that I enjoyed 3D Dot a LOT more than I expected to. I finished it much faster than any game I've bought recently. For instance, I bought Red Dead about a week ago and I've only played it twice. Just been so busy, and not had the urge to boot it up.

To anyone on the fence about 3D Dot, I highly recommend it. It's just a lot of fun for anyone who has a soft spot for the old days. I won't say that it's better than Link to the Past, but it's certainly a damn fun game.

kingdavid5508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

Fk this gen is full of meatheads.

The "metacritic" generation. What happened to judging games on your own terms?

Everyone thinks they are armchair experts because they have access to metacritic.

zireno5508d ago

I really don't know what's wrong with this so-called "gamers" when they base their opinions on a f***ing score. It's ok if you think a game is crap based on your experience playing the game, but to take a score from [insert your favorite site] and using it to prove a point is just sad.

dizzleK5508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

there are certain games like this that are what they are and either you like what you see or you don't. do you really need to wait for meta to decide whether or not you'll enjoy something like super mario? it is what it is. some games sell themselves and this is one of them.

ElementX5508d ago

With games costing $60 these days I'm not going to take any chances of blowing my money on a bad game. I find metacritic useful to get a general idea of a game and it's flaws and good points.

eagle215508d ago

I bet you think all gamers think a 77 is bad?? I didn't say a 77 was BAD. But it damn sure isn't awesome so go cry about it. I damn sure don't trust when fanboy blinders give games points for just being average. A 77 is enjoyable but as a true Zelda fan, I would rather play Zelda than this. Now if this was actually made by Nintendo and scored a 77, you guys would say FLOP. But anyway, enjoy this homage....

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Ahmay5508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

if you talk to one of the ladies.
in the castle at the beginning she says..

"i bought this demon's game, wanna trade, its too hard."

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thePatriot5509d ago

3 d dot game heroes sits on my desk unplayed Why God why???

kingdavid5508d ago

I have to admit, its a pretty awesome game. Not what I was expecting!

Aphe5508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

Um, no. It just rips off Zelda. It offers nothing new except the ability to make your own character in a Zelda clone.

The only reason I'll get it is to give me something to play until the real Zelda shows up.

zatrox5508d ago

Actually, the size of the world, all those little secrets, etc. Do make a great game. This was what I was saying the other day, it does accomplish somewhat being more Zelda than the new Zeldas. Well, even when IMO, the dungeons aren't all that great. I'd say it's more of an Old School action-RPG than a Zelda, thought. I must disagree than it's a Zelda clone because of that.

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PirateThom5508d ago

No, that's the thing, it is a blatant copy of Zelda, I doubt anyone would disagree with that. It knows its a blantant copy. It doesn't care, it's a homage and a very tasteful one at that. It does everything the 2D Zelda games do, from the vast overworld map to dungeons with bosses and secrets to a sword that is more power with full health and so on. And it works in the game's favour to wear its heart on its sleeve like this.

While Zelda is the obvious inspiration, there's references to other games in there, especially From Software's games (Demon's Souls and Armoured Core).

zatrox5508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

@Aphe
Nah bro, the main inspiration of the game are Zelda mechanics. Not saying it's actually a Zelda "rip-off", because it does has the same mechanics as Zelda, but it also adds something else that really make it seem more of an old school Action RPG, think about YS.
It does rip offs some stuff from Zelda, but adds new stuff as well. I.E. The big sword, etc.
@Aphe
It does adds some new stuff, and when the game does plays somewhat like Zelda, the point here is than it does NOT try to hide it.
Dante's Inferno didn't had any refferences to GoW, while in 3DDGH there are waay too much jokes regarding Zelda.
"It's too dangerous to go alone, take this!"

Aphe5508d ago (Edited 5508d ago )

The thing is that while I can understand games that pay homage to titles in their games, I can't quite respect someone who totally rips off a game.

Let me take Dantes Inferno. Wasn't that a homage to God of War? No, it was a rip off of GOW.

I can appreciate a dev that kicks back some respect to a game in a homage in their title, but to make a game that totally rips off someones game is a bit much.

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Colonel-Killzone5508d ago

LOL this should be interesting to see.

PirateThom5508d ago

Honestly, I think it's the best Zelda game since Link to the Past, because I never really saw eye to eye with 3D Zelda games. I don't hate them, they don't bother me, just never enjoyed them that much.

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Twilight Princess’ Hyrule Field Is Boring, Empty, And Excellent

TheGamer Writes "In my experience, The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess’ once-warm reception has chilled somewhat over the years. Praised at launch as a beautiful return to form after the “childish” art style of its direct predecessor, the world eagerly embraced a game that more closely followed Ocarina of Time’s famous structure and plot cues. Perhaps most alluringly of all, the grandeur and sheer scope of this reimagined Hyrule Field wowed millions of us."

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GaboonViper1046d ago

I am a huge Zelda fan and love them all, but for me Ocarina Of Time is the greatest and my second all time favourite game after Final Fantasy VII.

LoveSpuds1045d ago (Edited 1045d ago )

You sir, have good taste in games :)

I also love all of the Zelda games but I adore Windwaker (Specifically the HD version on WiiU) most of all. It is a close run thing with Breath of the Wild though.

Special mention to Cadence of Hyrule too, what an awesome spin off title that was!

GaboonViper1044d ago

Cheers Spuds, yep i love Windwaker too, beautiful artstyle, and i loved sailing and finding all the secrets out there.

blackbeld1044d ago

Agreed. For me top 3 of all time is.

1. ocarina of time
2. Final fantasy Vll
3. MGS1

GaboonViper1044d ago

Brilliant top 3, would love a MGS1 remake that has been rumoured.

LoveSpuds1044d ago

Yup, hard to argue with that top 3 squire, some quality games right there!

-Foxtrot1045d ago

Oh gee can't imagine what Number 1 is

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A Link to the Past, Ocarina of Time and Wind Waker etc is better than Breath of the Wild.

lockedongamer11045d ago

I respectfully disagree, but they're all great games.

porkChop1045d ago

I think it really depends on what you're looking for. If you want a traditional Zelda game then OoT or WW would be better to you. But if you want a Zelda game that really leans into adventure and exploration, and if you want intelligent systems/logic, BotW would be the better game.

I enjoy both. I understand why some people aren't fond of it but for me it was a breath of fresh air that I really needed. I'd become so burnt out on unimaginative games and BotW sort of made me appreciate games again, as weird as that may sound.

godofboobees1044d ago

Those are not traditional Zelda games

Crows901044d ago

Right...so let's pretend ocarina of time didnt have exploration, secret dungeons and other secrets. Complex boss mechanics and exploration rewards. At least a traditional Zelda has dungeons.

porkChop1044d ago

What point are you attempting to make? At no point did I say that OoT didn't have any of that. However, the level of exploration and sense of adventure are vastly different between OoT and BotW.

Brazz1045d ago

Breath of the Wild is overrated as shot, Wind waker is much better.

P_Bomb1045d ago

I’m a Link to the Past guy.

MadLad1045d ago

Majora's Mask still holds as my favorite to this day, despite being the black sheep of the series.

pietro12121045d ago

I love them all, but Wind Walker, Link to the Past and Minish Cap are my favorites

John_McClane1044d ago

Link to the Past was so, so good! Those chickens though! 🤣

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These PS3 Games are Going to get Really Expensive

Could you get rich by investing in PS3 games? Almost definitely not. Can you make a few bucks by flipping PS3 games over the years? Yeah, sure! It wouldn’t even be that difficult. But let’s face it: Once these games are in your collection, you’re probably keeping them forever.

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CDbiggen1390d ago

There's a reason I didn't buy most of these when they came out.

MadLad1390d ago

After a game's multiple generations old, and can't be had new at a reasonable price, that's when I see nothing wrong with emulation.

What's the point of paying someone scalper prices when the dev/publisher isn't even benefiting from it?

mkis0071390d ago

Emulation doesn't stop a games physical box from becoming collectible.

Knightofelemia1390d ago

I paid $30 for SH Downpour on PS3 now it's around $70-$85 Canadian Lolipop Chainsaw I paid $15 and it has really gone up in price. I wonder if Transformers War and Fall of Cybertron will go up in price two of the best Transformers games every made.

neutralgamer19921390d ago

In 5 years time all those games will be worth at least $150 to $200 that you listed

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neutralgamer19921390d ago

Ever since Sony announced that they would shut down PS3 store these prices have skyrocketed and even though Sony backtracked now most gamers realize that it's a matter of time before the PlayStation 3 store is shut down. If you want these games get them while you can even if digital because once that story shut down the physical prices will just go crazy high we saw that already

And many of these games did not sell like crazy amounts so they are limited number of copies available for sale at any given time

MadLad1390d ago

Folklore is a game I've always really wanted to play, but I got a PS3 late in the generation, and it was already really expensive to find, being it didn't exactly sell well, therefore was already kind of a collector's item.

Kept hoping I'd find a cheap copy randomly at stores and flea markets, but never happened.

franwex1390d ago

I got mine for $5 at Walmart like 10 years ago. I have yet to play it.

neutralgamer19921390d ago

It was available at GameStop for a while for under $20. Don't know har happened but GameStop started to sell their used games based on ebay prices it seems

You can still find it for around $60-70 and which in my opinion is a good price for a game that will be worth double if not triple that in next 5 years

Mr Logic1390d ago

Have you considered modding your PS3? Neither Sony or the dev would be getting money from that Folklore purchase. Kind of a victimless crime at that point.

MadLad1390d ago (Edited 1390d ago )

@neutral

Honestly, I just want to actually give the experience a try. I'm not someone who would buy it at a premium just to potentially rip someone off down the road.
I mean, there are collectors out there and if paying a couple hundred dollars is worth it to them then more power to them, but I'm not one to be on either end of that exchange.

I know it's taboo, but I might dig in and see the state of PS3 emulation on PC. I have a good PC, so it might be able to power through the often times poor performance, being PS3 is known to be hard to emulate.

I've never emulated anything past the PS2/Dreamcast but, as I said in my first post, I don't see anything wrong with emulation if the game you want to play can only be had used, with no money going to the creators.

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