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WARNING: Spoiler in review.

People will try to argue that Heavy Rain is important for video games - that it matures the form of entertainment by providing a story above the level we're used to from developers. Trying and failing might be better than never trying at all - but that still doesn't make it anything other than a failure. When the game ends and the implausible happens - the fairy tale ending occurs - you will fully understand that Heavy Rain is child's play fiction, not a mature interactive film noir. Heavy Rain is important for video games - but only because it highlights how immature they can be as a medium.

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Bungie2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

oh man it's on metacritic

personally i don't care it's just 1 man's opinion

still good score for heavy rain :)

N4PS3G2315d ago

This site gave:
Uncharted 2-9.5
MGS4-10
Killzone 2-9.5
Little Big Planet-9
Infamous-8
Valkyria Chronicles-8.5
GT5 Prologue-9.5

Now people will say they got paid by MS and that bots run the site!
I'm off to tell sony to put this guys on the blacklist with EDGE,EUROGAMER,IGNorance and all those others evil sites that have conspiracy against sony! :O

zenosaga042315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

See you're missing the point. It doesn't matter what they gave all those other games because it probably wasn't the same person that reviewed Heavy Rain. All this does is show that their reviews have been around the aggregate score for every other game.

When the average score is score for Heavy Rain is a 90% and this site gives it a 4.5 out of 10 don't you think that they're probably in the minority of those that didn't like it. No ones saying that their biased, just that this review is a complete outlier

-Alpha2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

At least one person is bound to pull at straws and say this article is paid off or biased. Personally, I think he is entitled to his opinion, if he didn't like it, he didn't like it. Just move on, don't make a big deal out of it, and realize he is in the minority. He seems to have huge issues with the story for whatever reason. In fact, he goes quite deep into the actual story and how he felt about the connection, and he clearly didn't have one. Maybe he's just heartless, but I wont blame him for not feeling connected. Perhaps 4/10 is way too low, but personally, I never go off of 1 review unless it's my own. I just want people to realize that instead of saying silly stuff like "MS paid them" or "blacklist this site because it's unreliable"

People are allowed to complain about the review but I'd like to hear good reasons why instead of just crying "fanboy review!"

For example, I find that he is too hung up on the small things:

"Eventually Ethan puts Shaun to bed before heading there himself - beginning the next chapter. The impact is lost - after spending so long as Ethan (an extended period of time if you're an explorer) you're relieved to be someone else, not emotionally connected to what Ethan feels. The line between interactivity and progression is heavily skewed here, resulting in an altogether slow start to the game."

That's on the first page, and I haven't read the 2nd page because I'm not spoiling this game. Of course maybe he is right, but it seems a point like this is exaggerated or down to his strictness for story-games.

Bungie2315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

@zenosaga04

you can't counter opinions , this site is not bias ,it's very reliable
they just think Heavy Rain deserved a 4.5 ,you don't have to like it but just respect it

PS.shout out for:green,Seraphemz,Alcon Caper,N4PS3G ,IllusionMPN,GiantEnemyCrab

thanks for approving my news :)

OmarJA-N4G2315d ago

Day 1 baby, just sold my ME2 copy to get this. :)

Seraphemz2315d ago

although you are painfully annoying, and the review is lame.
it's a story..and a valid one.

way too show your maturity..

gaffyh2315d ago

LOL @ Bungie, seems to be posting every possible negative PS3 review. That's incredibly desperate...

morganfell2315d ago OffTopicShow
LordMarius2315d ago

bungie and n4psg3
All they do is scour the internet for bad ps3 news, lol
not enough games to play (if any)

van-essa2315d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

That means you bought the X360 version (despite having a "beefed up PC")? lol

@Alpha
Trust me, save your hard earned cash on this one, it's not worth it. The story doesn't make any freaking sense and for a game that relies so much on storytelling, that's bad.
There are too many QTEs for unnecessary things like setting the table, shaving, make-up, peeing... WTH

I beat the game because it cost me $60, but I regret it, should have just watched in on youtube or something.

EDIT : Phantom "disagreers", man up and tell us what you disagree about?

Bungie2315d ago

@gaffyh

please don't shoot the messenger
i'm just doing mah thing as a contributor
that's all

now if you have a problem with the site please let me know

i think N4PS3G said it all

sikbeta2314d ago

lol Bungie not only is an annoying stealth Troll, he also review games

Unbelievable...

On-Topic

No one said this game will "appeal" to everyone, so Reviews are Opinions, I want to know if this site Reviewed Indigo/F, if so, the score probable is On Par with this One, taking out the Fact that Heavy Rain is Better than Indigo/F, cuz the Story don't end up being a crazy madness unbelievable psycho [email protected] like in Indigo/F

Gamers FTW!!!

vulcanproject2314d ago

A marmite game for reviewers it seems, as we would say in the uk

peeps2314d ago

"oh man it's on metacritic "

eh? no it's not lol

not on the heavy rain metacritic page and not on their list of review sites...

pretty sad that 360 fanboys are basically hunting out any bad reviews about the game and getting their other accounts to approve the article haha man you have a lot of time on ur hands

peeps2314d ago

ah so it is. got confused on the whole 'bigpond' thing when i couldn't see it under G lol

morganfell2314d ago OffTopicShow
menoyou2314d ago

Another crappy site desperate for attention and hits.

captain-obvious2314d ago SpamShow
-Alpha2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

So please stop with the crap that he is wrong or biased, he is entitled to his opinions.

@van-essa

I don't plan on buying it at launch. I rarely buy short games at launch for full price regardless of quality

@menoyou

Oh please, the site is just fine. Just because they gave it a low score doesn't mean it's a bad site. The reviewer is entitled to his/her opinion of the game as long as he presents it with reason, and I think he did. Maybe the overall score was too low but don't bash the whole site for it. Unless you didn't read the other comments, this site gave PS3 scores high scores in the past so don't even try to pull out the "bias" card. The same reviewer gave ODST a 5/10. at least provide constructive reasons rather than blindly throwing out accusations.

@zenosaga

Yeah, what do people usually go with anyway, GameRankings? I don't think that even with the random sites MC may approve of that it changes the overall TOO much. I mean, an overall of 83 on MC compared to an overall of 86 on GR is the same to me-- it tells me a game is considered great and that's all I really care about. Besides, this review is just fine and I welcome it to give a different perspective to how someone felt about the game. In fact I find that's the best way to decide purchasing a game: looking at the negatives instead of reading the same repetitive positives most sites list.

van-essa2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Instead of insulting everyone that doesn't like the game, why don't you tell us what you like about the game?
It'll be more constructive than just spamming "bots", "whinner", "shooter box"... don't you think?

I didn't like the game and I (briefly) stated why without insulting the people that did like it. Your turn, can you do the same? Have you even played it?

zenosaga042314d ago

Yea, you're right Alpha it's not even that I disagree with their opinion, even though I would definitely give it a much higher score. My problem is with Metacritic, not the site. Metacritic has single handedly thrust importance onto sites that would otherwise go unnoticed.

Before the advent of Metacritic, how many of you had heard of BigPondGameArena, or Teletext game central? I'm sure some of you had, but their reviews probably would have gone unnoticed if not for metacritic.

blind-reaper2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Why N4G mods don't ban people (or their account) like Bungie? he is just spamming all over PS3 articles, it's a pain in the ass.

@ N4PS3G

no, people will say this is a site looking for hits... and it is, I mean it is obvious when you give a 4 to a game that it has have most sites have given it a 8 or 9. I just read the comment where alpa22 said this same reviewer gave ODST (another high profile exclusive) a 5, so that just proves my point.

@alphamale

I'm tired of people confusing "review" with "editorial" (which it is entirely an opinion and it is not measured with numbers), a review should'nt be based only in opinion for example: in my opinion FFVII it is a really bad game I would give it a 3 out of 10, but that is just because I don't like ANY turn-based RPGs.

callahan092314d ago

"When the game ends and the implausible happens - the fairy tale ending occurs - you will fully understand that Heavy Rain is child's play fiction, not a mature interactive film noir. Heavy Rain is important for video games - but only because it highlights how immature they can be as a medium. "

What the **** is this asshole talking about? I just beat the game about 10 minutes ago and I was blown away by the last couple of chapters and the ending in general. What "immature" "fairy tale ending" is he talking about? Does he even realize that there's more than one ending? My first ending was anything BUT a "fairy tale", but then I WANTED the fairy tale ending so I went through parts of the game again to ensure that I got that ending. So now it's immature to have multiple endings, one of which is a pretty happy ending? Even the happiest of endings still has some bitterness to it. I have absolutely no idea how a critic can play this game and say that bullshit about it. It's just wrong. It's not about an opinion. He's wrong. Period. You can't say that it's a fairy tale ending when there's bitterness to it even the best of endings, and you especially can't say it when there's many other endings, some of which are downright horrid or depressing. He clearly didn't even take the time to understand how choices, decisions, successes, and failures can impact what happens in this game. This review, while giving a higher score than the TeleText one, is even WORSE than that one because it's filled with downright lies.

tinybigman2314d ago

this is pretty sad of the haters on this site. as for this review if he/she can't wrap this great story/gameplay around his/her small mind it's ok i'm sure there some simply FPS coming out that they can easily understand.

fans of the game pay no mind to bungie and the other haters.

darkpower2314d ago OffTopicShow
Bigpappy2314d ago

Hey Bungie! Stop teasing the PS3 fanboyz. I know they are very annoying at times, buy they are some legitimate gamers who own the PS3 who love this game. I don't feel sorry for Fanboyz because they do much worse. In fact, you bring the do many a favor but letting them know that not everyone see these games as great. They can then make a more informed discission. When I was about to pickup ME2 a french site gave it a 7.5/10. There did not like the fact that ME2 did not a lot the player to manage the inventory like they did in ME1. I was a bit in agreement with their perspective, but still thought it would be a good game, as I never played a bad Bioware RPG. I got ME2 and loved it more that the first but still agreed that the inventory system was not as deep. For that I agave ME2 9.8/10. I like complex games, but ME2 is still very complex with out inventory management.

gaffyh2314d ago

"The bad stuff:
Poor plot, terrible acting, terrible writing and numerous gameplay flaws."

Wow, what a stupid review. The plot is fantastic, the writing is fantastic, and the voice-acting is fantastic, with a few exceptions, but what do you expect from a 2000 page script! There are also parts in Mass Effect 1/2 that aren't up to scratch with most of the game.

It seems this guy has focused on the few faults of the game and exaggerated them. I can understand that he didn't like the gameplay, but in every other area the game is great, saying the plot sucks is pretty stupid as it is one of the most cinematic and emotional games EVER made.

I'd recommend that anyone who is actually thinking of buying this game to NOT read the review as there are a lot of spoilers. Lucky for me, I've already completed it and it didn't spoil anything for me.

redsquad2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Bungie the schizoid man strikes again - Halo ODST got '5 out of 10' at it's lowest ebb, but I guess those reviewers were 'wrong' then, eh?

morganfell2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

van-essa (n4psg3, or whatever) I have played - not all the the way through as it just launched yesterday. Amazing you beat it already. Smell that? Yeah it's called 'less than the truth'.

Heavy Rain is amazing. Need to know why? Oh, that's right, you didn't really play it. Go to Metacritic and try reading the top reviews, they nailed it. Time and again here on this site I have proved the consoles I have owned. If anyone is suspect of not having played this game it is you.

I grant the amount respect to people that they have earned. This isn't the harry reid health care train. Respect isn't free. When you have people coming here, posting spoilers, trying their best to drag down a console or game for their own petty jealous motivation I reward them with the response they deserve. Go find my last ant-360 story. And unlike bungie, I actually own all of the consoles. Goodbye, I am done with you too. No need to ever read another remark by a 360 fanboy attacking PS3 titles. I just looked at the first page of your past comments. Ridiculous. At least I admit I am a PS3 fanboy but you deceive even yourself (that's probably easy to do) about what a 360 supporter you are indeed. Have a nice life. BTW, you are now 0-6.

SolidAhmed2314d ago OffTopicShow
Echo3072314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Eh, it's one guys opinion... and if you're one of these people that follow metacritic, take a close look at the reviews. For every single review that's below an 80, there's a review that scored it a perfect 100 to counter.

As for everyone claiming we have have to accept this guys opinion, you're right. We have to accept his opinion, but in turn he'll have to respect the fact that scoring this game twice as low as the average reviewer did, will bring his gaming taste in to question by a lot of gamers.

In reality, this review probably did more damage to their site's fan base than it did to the game itself.

callahan092314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

"the plot is a trope heavy thriller with a cheat twist, plotholes and other unexplained nonsense"

Sorry to comment again, but I just really have to reiterate here... This guy is lying to you. It's plain and simply not true. What plot holes is he talking about? What unexplained nonsense? What cheat twist? Everything I witnessed was plausible, interesting, and fully explained. The game concluded and I felt no confusion and I don't recall any plot points that are anomalous to the rest of the events or failed to be filled in and answered. I honestly have no idea how this reviewer can say that stuff. It just boggles my mind.

Some of the scenes in this game have an intensity and emotional weight that I've NEVER gotten from any movie before, let alone another video game. To completely ignore those types of scenes and occurrences that this game has is ridiculous.

Also, anybody else notice how he devotes nearly all of his 2 page write up to complaining about the game's controls and interface, and then in the very end of it, he says that it does this kind of quick-time oriented and context-sensitive interactivity right and better than other games that use that method. So which is it?

FlameBaitGod2314d ago

wow teletext's review made heavy rain drop two points

SilentNegotiator2314d ago OffTopicShow
FamilyGuy2314d ago

I heard that they drop reviews from their list when they score far from the other averages.

Like if a game is getting all 9s and 10s and then some reviewer that they usually gives that same game a 5 or something then they drop it from the average.

thesummerofgeorge2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Just finished this game, and am playing through again a different way. It was honestly one of the most unique and fun games I've ever played.

Reviews like these with a bitter, condescending tone, stating opinions as if they're facts ie: "but that still doesn't make it anything other than a failure." calling a game with a 9.0 average a failure, giving away spoilers, it's no good for anyone. It's less of a review, than it is a big middle finger. Nobody looking for insight into this game, should read this "review".

Dsnyder2314d ago OffTopicShow
Syronicus2314d ago

Those that get the importance of games like Heavy Rain and those that do not. This one is clearly a review person who does not get it. And it shows in their sophomoric writing and lazy grammar.

exnihilonihilfit2314d ago

Are the heaps of attention given to him. People who claim he has no life or must not play games comment just as frequently as he does. I'm not saying the guy isn't a fanboy, but isn't it obvious to you that he's just pushing your buttons so that you respond like a bunch of dithering idiots. It's not Bungie's fault that this reviewer gave it a bad score, and he's perfectly free to post the score as that's what this site is for.

I'm quite tired of these reviewers who claim that there are major plot discrepancies. There's really only one plot discrepancy, and it's not much of one. It doesn't ruin the plot, nor does it denegrate the plot or make it somehow childish. The rest of the story is completely consistent with the so called "twist," which isn't that much of a twist if you're witty enough to figure it out at any point prior to the end. Most people who seem to be upset about it are the ones who couldn't guess it, probably because the game made them feel stupid. If you play it twice, you realize there's only one thing that never gets explained, and it's not what most people even point to.

True, the voice acting was a stretch, but it's forgivable in my book because the actors are clearly not from philadelphia. Think of it as a poor dubbing, it doesn't thereby ruin the plot, or make it impossible to connect to. The problem is that there are clearly many reviewers who never liked the idea of this game, and so they never allowed themselves to suspend their disbelief, resulting in a detachment which ruined their experience. This is only exacerbated by some poor voice acting at times, but so long as you don't get hung up on something like that, you should love this game, and its story.

FF7numbaone2314d ago OffTopicShow
TROLL EATER2314d ago

face the facts the game is crap

Emmettcelticfan2314d ago OffTopicShow
Plopito2314d ago

It must be hard searching for bad reviews for heavy rain

N4Flamers2314d ago

Im not going to take diet advise from an obese person and im not going to take any intellectual opinions from a complete moron.

I just finished the game today and it was great I had everything explained, I loved who the killer was, and I cant remember when was the last time I enjoyed a gaming experience that much.

Do people remember when they used to score games on replay value? Half way through this game I wanted to play it again and do things differently. I know I'm going to play it at least 2 more times.

The reason I cant trust this review is because I've seen a really good ending and it seemed plausible. If you dont like the happy ending there's a terrible one. The other thing he said was that madisons reasons weren't explained, but I got them explained. The voice acting wasnt the greatest, but I watch a lot of anime, and america is a melting pot, these people dont have to come from here, lol.

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Seraphemz2315d ago OffTopicShowReplies(8)
Seraphemz2315d ago

it should be noted the the dumb @ss review has spoilers.

although a minor one...some people will not like anything spoiled.

also..the reviewer seems to hate tutorials. Cause he spends most of the review hating the first part of the game..you know, where you are to learn all the controls!

morganfell2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

Then the story should be reported as it isn't properly edited.

You are correct. Spoilers. I am glad I am past that point. I reported the story and then posted the issue to the mods on the Contributor forum.

Seraphemz2314d ago

yea Morgan..it's should be somewhere that the review has a spoiler. Crazy that they didn't even warn people...hmmm.

zenosaga042315d ago (Edited 2315d ago )

Sites like BigGameArena and Teletext are pretty much the reason I don't go to Metacritic anymore. If I'm at all interested in aggregate reviews I just head over to Gamerankings because it seems like they use some disgression in the sites that they include.

Over at Gamerankings Heavy Rain has over a 90% average and even at Metacritic it has an 87% with two 4 out of 10 bs reviews. I'm sorry, but when the average for a game is 90% and you give it a 4 out of 10 their is something wrong with your "professional" review criteria.

Metacritic really needs to rethink the sites that they allow on their aggregate

Nitrowolf22315d ago

well this site actually has good reviews for most PS3 exclusive, i didn't disagree with you.

zenosaga042315d ago

Yea I really don't care about their previous reviews, they gave MGS4 a 10 out of 10 and I loved that game. My issue is with this review.

Anytime you see reviews almost a full 50 points below the average they are clearly outliers, and should not be counted in an average. They can still put an excerpt from the written review for those that are interested in reading it, but I think adding them in the average is stupid.

I just think that it's unfortunate that too 4 out of 10 reviews will keep this game from a higher average

GameOn2315d ago

Gotta remember that Metacritic reviews are weighted so a site such as this has very little effect on the average compared to a site like IGN. Did the average even drop?

Still, these latest low scores seem very unfair but I'm not gonna bother reading the review to find out why they scored it as such.

GiantEnemyCrab2315d ago

I've said it before.. There is always one or two that have to go against the grain for attention. And of course, they could of just not liked the game but to be so far out of wack with the other scores, it makes me wonder if they played the same game.

Bought it but haven't had a chance to fire it up. On my second playthru of ME2 and I can't put it down.

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Sonyslave32315d ago

flllllllllllllllllllllllllllll llllllooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooop

UP2315d ago

oh because of a couple low scores in a large mass of positive ones it is a flop. Most games have a couple low scores because of either preference of a type of game over others or bias.

ps3hasonlyflopgames2315d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

flop and more flops for flopstation 3.

wck= 5.1

last rebelion= 2.0

heavy flop rain ----> rofl 2.0

holy shi*

ps3 2010 its only flops everything

captain-obvious2314d ago

so 87 on meta is a flop huh ?
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

ok
im good with that
but
what about this ?
http://www.metacritic.com/g...

:)

Wrathman2314d ago

o yeah compare halo odst to heavy rain.because thats relavent.

i forgot how halo was known for its genre changing gameplay.LOL.and superb story.o how they critics loved it.lol

sorry but you fail with that comparison.and you reek of desperation

pathetic

FlameBaitGod2314d ago (Edited 2314d ago )

above 90 in metacritic

PS3
MLB 09: The Show
Killzone 2
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
LittleBigPlanet
Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
God of War Collection

360
Gears of War
Halo 3
Gears of War 2
Forza Motorsport 3
Forza Motorsport 2

Even with a year head start you don't got more AAA games :( and you guys don't even have variety LOL! Lets see who will have more AAA games at the end of the year ^_^

trancefreak2314d ago

ps3 fans just punk bungie and take his undeserved bubbles. Dont let this sucka play you.

Bungie: this is your biggest gaming year according to to xbox gamers.

Ps3 fans wont forget your bot history when your exclusives start to roll out soon. Especially the flagship title halo you worship.

I wouldnt be surprised if you ruined all these exclusives with massive spoilage spamming. Im sure all the bots will thank you when their fav game plot/stories are ruined in the same manner in regards to the ps3 exclusives that are being trashed by you and your bot buddies..

Im sure xbox gamers will just adore your cute innocent trolling when the time comes unfortunatly.

TROLL EATER2314d ago

I disagree HEAVY FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP

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