FPS Noobs Play Modern Warfare 2...Most of the Time

RespawnAction writes: " I am going to come flat out and say this right now. Sony's PS3 is the system for hardcore FPS fans. Their exclusive shooters, Killzone 2 and the upcoming MAG, are two of the best shooters to play. That is of course, you are able to use a small tactic called teamwork. Teamwork is something that is nowhere to be found on Modern Warfare 2..."

[WildArmed]

Most people screw team work in any game.
If a game focuses on team work, it doesnt go so well since most of the people that i know wanna play as the lone wolf -.-
Well you can cover there back, sure you can. But don't expect the favor to be returned lol.

Was playing uncharted 2 last night, I got killed more covering someone else ass.. But thats why I like parties. Once I had a party rolling, it was all good.

But i do prefer BCBF2 over K2 n MAG for team play. Being able to spawn in on ur squad mate is just plain AWESOME.

[respawnaction]

touche, BC2 is plain awesome. DICE is a great developer.

[stagga]

I have to admit on Battlefield 2 (PC) I was usually the assh*** running around by myself capturing bases and blowing stuff up :) I never really got on with BFBC I missed my mouse too much!

But why no mention of SOCOM in this article? From the MAG devs, that game has been wearing the Playstation tactical shooter crown (it's camo painted and all the shiny bits have been covered) for years now. Try the lone wolf approach in that game and see how long you last!

[respawnaction]

@ stagga- I am aware how Socom is tactical, but that's a TPS. This article was about FPS. lol, :p

[mjolliffe]

The way things are going, unless Infinity Ward pull their finger out and get all these glitches sorted, and preventing future ones, Bad Company 2 will come out on top.

[bnaked]

Yo that's a great article! thumbs up!

[_TheSituation_]

dont forget those map packs they better be amazing. And yes the patches rolling out a little more often would be a plus.

[AAACE5]

What does Mariah Carey say in her song... Oh yeah... "Delusional... Delusional, boy you're losing your mind!"

I bought Killzone 2 about 2 weeks after MW 2 came out and worldwide there were less than 500 people playing if online! I got into the MAG Beta when I preordered it around the same time and it feels more like Perfect Dark Zero with better graphics. So I really don't know what your trip is!

People will like what they like, just deal with it and quit! If what you're saying is really true, you wouldn't have to defend it and try to implant the thought into peoples heads!

[HQLocated111]

I just got done playing a match of MW2 and wow what a piece of sh** game. I've never seen a game where people camp so much. At least on BFBC2 and MAG its not as easy to camp since there are more players, those games are all about teamwork.

I've just about had it with that sh**ty game. I feel like breaking it in half and sending it to Infinity Ward. But I'll do more harm by trading it in or selling it heheheheheh. I never thought I would say this but COD4 and WAW are WAAAY better games than MW2.

[A Cupcake for Gabe]

In Killzone 2, you can spawn on anyone living in your squad.

I think Killzone 2 and BFBC are the best team based shooters. MAG is really good, but it's still getting a flow down. I think there are still to many lone rangers. once you die enough inMAG, you realize it's best to party up and fight in a team.

[Maddens Raiders]

As my friend Guido would say

QFT

[PoSTedUP]

everyone is good in MWF2 because it has a slight auto aim. thats not to say it is not fun to play from time to time. i wouldnt buy it though, i'm more of a socom/tactical gamer and yeah BFbadcompany2 and medal of honor: reboot looks to blow call of dudy out of the water. MAG is doing some amazing things for me in gaming also with 256 online.

[Lich120]

I don't know about this one. First of all, the claim that the ps3 is the defacto standard for hardcore FPS seems a little, how you say, fanboyish. Im a huge FPS (and TPS) gamer and I don't do it as much on my PS3. I find I play the ps3 shooters for their single player (UC2, KZ2) but don't get into the multi. For me, the biggest thing is the controller. Im not a fan of the thumbstick placement and the lack of stick resistance. Im sure that will get disagrees but it is my opinion. For other game genres I think it's much better. Which is why Ill be picking up FF13 on my PS3 and not the 360.

BF2 PC I think was the best game for teamwork Ive played. That's why Im hoping BC2 is very similar. I love DICE so I have faith.

Also, I know the article was about FPS, but the first gears of war (the seconds multi was crap), was a game where teamwork was very important. Again, mentioning a 360 in this thread will probably get me hate, but since the article was directed at the ps3 being supreme for these sorts of things, I feel its relevant.

[MiloGarret]

I don't get people complaining about campers in mw2, they're the easiest kills... They just sit there, waiting for you to shoot them in the face. I'm always happy to see campers in mw2 because it gives me an opportunity to outsmart an obviously thinking player rather than the morons who just run around with shotguns thinking they're going to get good scores.

I think most people who complain about this game just plain and simple suck at it and can't handle the mechanics. That, or they're sad litte fanboys who are pissed off that KZ2 didn't even reach a tenth of the success of mw2. Anyone claiming KZ2 requires more tactics and skill than mw2 in hardcore deathmatch and/or search & destroy has obviously never played neither game.

I own both games and I love them both, I'm able to camp or run around and be amongst the top three players every time on any map in both games. KZ2 BY FAR rewards campers more than mw2, it's not even a contest. If you haven't figured it out yet here's how:

1. Choose Scout, obviously,
2. select a spot where you can overlook a large part of the battlefield and objectives (all maps have at least a few of these). You should also be able to hide completely in this spot.
3. turn on invisibility
4. look out towards the objective/battlefield in general, turn on spot and mark
5. shoot any of the targets pointed out to you
6. hide, wait for the cloak to recharge
7. repeat.

Congrats, you earned somewhere around 50-60 kills and probably zero deaths. This is just one effective camping tactic in KZ2, my personal favourite is when my team manages to coordinate a complete lockdown of the exit point of their spawn.

Both games are great, both games encourage camping, both games have several flaws which are easy to exploit. Both games kick ass when you learn to play them correctly. The easy solution to all this complaining is to start playing with your heads instead of your asses.

[Lich120]

The autoaim in MW2 drives me insane. I swear more often than not it results in me shooting a wall because it doesn't actually lock on, it follows a targets path but not the target itself. There should be an option to turn it off.

[WildArmed]

Actually you can only spawn on your squad leader if he/she is alive in Killzone 2.
Unless they patched it VERY recently, I am a proud frequent player of K2 and would have noticed that ^^

[peowpeow]

I really despise auto-aim, especially when I'm sniping since I like to do sweep shots (don't know what to call it) and as the scope is moving towards the enemy it automatically slows down and makes me miss! :@ If you know what I mean

[WildArmed]

@1.16

yeah I know the feeling.
Auto Aim makes me fuk up when I aim.
I KNOW i need to cover some distance so I tap the joysticks to cover it... To my surprise Auto-aim kicks in moves me to the my target and since I moved the joystick to cover that distance my aim goes past the target.
It gets extremely frustrating. And you can't even turn it off.
Atleast in BCBF2 they had the option to turn off aim assist.

[cyberwaffles]

"Being able to spawn in on ur squad mate is just plain AWESOME."

you can spawn in on a squad leader if you set up a squad in KZ2, although i find it useless half the time since other people are always throwing spawn points or the fact that the maps aren't too big to travel through.

i think kz2 should take a battlefield approach as far as map design and gameplay modes go. it's too one dimensional sometimes where everybody just runs in the center of the map and let chaos reign; prime example being radec academy. can't stand that map.

[OGharryjoysticks]

SOCOM players are usually campers too unless it's a real clan match. Get a bunch of different clan members in a game and most of them camp and go for kills regardless of the match type.

[Guido]

This is true for most if not all games on any console. It is also the reason why my team gets so many wins. We work together as a team and kill the opposition. Even in MW2, teamwork helps eliminate the others faster and more enjoyably.

[rockleex]

I get 35-40 kills and 5-10 deaths on an average Team Deathmatch game.

Are campers easy to kill? Yes.
Do I still hate them? Yes.

Are button mashers easy to kill in fighting games? Yes.
Do I still hate them? Yes.

Sure, they have a right to play whatever style they want. But it still doesn't change the fact that its one of the most annoying and hated play styles in shooting games.

It also doesn't change the fact that I can get more kills and less deaths than campers. ^_^

True skill can take you farther than camping ever can.

[ico92]

yeah they squat in the corner with the genreous auto aim and the M4 with unlimited range raking up kill streaks, which is why i prefer killzone 2's online

[f789790]

I have played multiple domination matches where my team just camps one area and never makes a move for the other two areas.

I HATE IT!

[solidt12]

Say what you want but this weekend I stopped playing Modern Warfare 2 and Bad Company 2 beta and started playing Killzone 2 again. I love MW2 but after a while i feel like i have been playing the same game for 2+ years because it is with new maps and perks. Im having fun with Killzone 2 now. I know I will get back to MW2 but for now it is fun to have a break from it. I think this will be the year that we get tired of real life modern warfare type of games because everyone is doing it. I want to see more Sci-Fi type shooters with great graphics. Can't wait for Killzone 3.

[mal_tez92]

The aiming, shooting and movement are all overly simple, making it require little skill. I found the same problem in the MAG beta so I kind of disagree with the article.

In terms of pure gameplay, Killzone 2 beats every other FPS. The level of immersion is unmatched, you don't feel like a floating gun, but like an actual soldier. The weighty feeling of the movement and aiming, the way you can't aim while shooting (like you can in cod) and the way each explosion rocks the screen is just way ahead of all other FPS games. The guns don't feel like they weigh 10 grams, and you move like a person does and can't stop and change direction on a dime.

We need more games like Killzone.

[supraman21]

How is aiming and moving noobish? Just because your able to turn real quick which a real person can do or cause you can aim quickly pretty quick which you also can really do. Have you not seen any action movies with people running around with AK's and M4's moving around corners really fast and picking off people pretty quickly? It takes skill to aim accurately in real life and in call of duty cause there is no resistance holding you back. You probably suck at the game cause you have no reflex. Thats what this game is all about, REFLEX. If you are slow your gonna get shot. MAG is stupid cause there is no freedom with moving and aiming. If you see someone and they see you its pretty much who has there cursor closest to you is gonna win cause there is a set limit of how fast you can move.I have my sensitivity in COD set to 10. This is the reason why games like DOOM,Golden eye,Halo and COD are liked so much. The reason COD sucks is this: Campers, Noob toobs, Doubly gay ass shot guns, Grenade spamming and kill streeks. 3 was enough in number 4.

[mario888]

Your Augment about reflexes would hold true except for Auto Aim, Bullet Magnetism and Low Health . Mw2 is abuot who see who first and who pull up first wins.

[Dev8 ing]

Yeah killzone is the best FPS this generation. I disagree with people saying the 360 is the best place for FPS'. First the PC that is undenyable second the 360 isn't even as good as the ps3. What is there on 360 for FPS Halo3, ODST and Left 4 dead 1 and 2, compared to killzone 2, Resistance 1 and 2, and MAG. ODST and L4D2 are pretty much expansion packs.

[D3R3K903]

You can change the sensitivity on MAG easily, you go to the options and look for a long bar that says something about sensitivity, its a really long bar and not very hard to miss, and each adjustment makes a difference so you can get the exact sensitivity you want when playing, should've checked for it before you said there wasn't one lol.

[glennc]

bad company 1 is still better than kz2. how is kz2 way ahead of bc1 in actual gameplay??? maybe graphics but then thats all anyone cares about when their system is graphically superior. it was the same with xbox 1 owners. all the sudden gameplay is considered better if the graphics are better. sorry guys, it doesnt improve it that much. and then come the shortfall justifications like weighty feeling more realistic BS. in 2 years every decent fps will have destructible environments and as such introduce vehicles to blow the sh!t out of it all.

it is clear though that MW2 is not even in the running for best FPS this generation.

just my opinion

but the funniest part of this article is saying the PS3 is the console for hardcore FPS fans, both consoles offer enough games for the hardcore FPS gamer, the casual FPS gamer, the wannabe rockstar, the sportstar ... etc etc. they are in the business of giving as many people as big a variety as possible. its hilarious that the playstation brand finally gets a great shooter and is suddenly the king of hardcore FPS (on console). this is just onesided fanboyism from a desperate PS fan who has prayed for this day to come when he finally has a decent FPS to play. its like saying the 360 is the king of sandbox games because it got crackdown

[ASSASSYN 36o]

I love how people try and dictate how someone else should play a video game. If you camp your not playing a video game. If you run around the corner (the same corner) and die every 5 seconds hemorrhaging deaths to the other team. You are playing a video game. If you use a specific weapon that I don't like. How dare you.

Give me a break.

People put to much stock in whining as if it is effective. I don't listen to you nor care of your opinion of how I play a video game just like you won't care about my methods. What works for me has been working since the day I popped Ghost recon into my xbox and went on line. I played virtually every FPS spanning xbox to xbox 360. My tactics won't change to accommodate you tomorrow so get over it. Less whining and more playing. Can't take the heat...go play another game.

And yes battle field bad company 2 IS going to be sweet. And when you kids get tank shells landing on your head from across the map...that will be me. Warheads on foreheads.

And 90% of problems with cooperative online play can be solved by a friend joining you. If you don't have any don't be surprised when you get a generic nut job on your team whom style of play clashes with yours. And don't look for realism in a twitch shooter. There is none.

[FragMnTagM]

Spot on. +bub.

[mrblacknut]

I approve this comment.

[Fishy Fingers]

Play what you want, the way you want. But dont moan about others doing the same thing.

[FragMnTagM]

It doesn't matter which game you play. There is always going to be some douchebags that play the game their own way, so get over it.

[Fishy Fingers]

The thing is, to someone else, you or I could be that douchebag.

[mastiffchild]

Well, IDK. The thing is , if you play a agme designed to be played a cerrtain way like TF2 and you get someone purely wanting to lone wolf it is ruins it for everyone for thayt game and people's time can be very short and very important to them. So, wouldn't it be both wise and fair to think about what's the best way to get the most out of a game before you dive in? If you want to be a lone wolf choose a game where it won't damage the other people's time-is that really too much to ask as you'd be a lot better off playing COD with that mindset than MAG or TF2 and everyone would be happier. i think the issue is, often, that people feel that they should like every game that's released and just dive in without knowing what the developers relly had i mind when laying out the game and the maps.

Take KZ2. Noone complained about the controls in the beta. Noone that I remember anyway-yet when it released loads of people who hadn't looked into the ethos of the game were in a rage saying the controls were "broken" rather than thinking that maybe the game just didn't suit them or their style of play. there's two reactions Id advise to that situation:either you trade it in as a lesson learned for next time OR take on the learning curve and obtain a new, extra set of skills. Sadly, what hppened was GG got bombarded with moan after moan(from people who were ALWAYS going back to COD at the next opportunity anyway)until they diluted the very thing that gave KZ2 a lot of it's own identity. If people want every game to play the same then what's the point? Surely the fact games are different shows us that there's different tastes and different mehods in developers minds as well as ours.

So, rather than just inflict ourselves and a style of play that works in anothr game but not the new one shouldn't we play the game that suits said style of play and not risk ruining the fun of others?

I guess I might have arrived at this ;pov because, as many of you will know, it's often difficult to find even a half decent pair of teams for TF2 and if there's a couple of people playing like they're playing COD with randoms it can kill the game stone dead and as i said people don't always have los of time for their gaming. I wouldn't call anyone a douchebag for this kind of thing but do wish we'd all just consider the game we're playing before we go right in there playing a team based game selfishly-when there are games that reward other styles of play a lot more why wouldn't you want to play those anyway if you find your style at odds with a games population or design?

I also, don't think it's fair to say people who prefer the pick up and play likes of Halo, Resistance or COD are n00bs at all-you might just not have time to become great at a game with a longer learning curve or merely dislike the aesthitic of a certain game and you can't help that. Again, though, I think the most important thing is to realise that you won't love every game even in a gnre you like and a little research can save you a lot of abuse and a lot of money and mean you get a lot more out of your game time.

I was in the arlier MAG beta and though i tried and tried to g into it I was stuffed time and again by having teams full of people who just didn't grasp the concept of the fragos or why you wanted your XP in the gam and as a resul I only ever felt I'd played the game as it was designed on a couple of, in fairness, amazingly entertaining occasions! Thing is MAG needs gamers, a lot of gamers and needs them to play within certain parameters for it to even work let alon work well and, though , i'm giving it another chance myb earlier exprience makes me wonder if it's just too ambitious. I say this but the controls feel a lot more COD than KZ2 to me so in one way Zipper have tried to make entry tonthe game as easy as possible so you can concentrate on your fragos and way the game was designed to be played as with big squad based games it's essential, imo, to play as a unit if you want to get a fraction of the enjoyment to be had out of them.

So, sorry if it seems like i'm moaning-i'm not really, and just think a little thought before you jump into a game about whether it's going to suit you and if you're going to suit it and the majority of it's players is a very wise approach-for all concerned as it's just not nice from either end if you feel you're ruining someones night, is it? You can hear they're annoyed and it's never nice to get moaned at yourself! You can avoid anyone being the "douchebag" if you follow this as advice I reckon and I'm all about the harmony!

Also, COD might be easy to pick up but so is football and how many of us are truly outstanding at that? It's just a different kind of thing being great at something when most people are pretty good and trying for that isn't an easy way out just as it's not an easy route trying to master a more tricky game to learn the basics of. Wha is it with us gamers lways wanting to put things and othet gamers down when we don't have the first iodea why someone else might likea certain type of game or even if they have much of a choice about it due to their lifestyle.

[Hanif-876]

This guy speaks the truth about MW2!

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[Hanif-876]

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[Trebius]

I went to a friends house and played the multiplayer for the first time, i was 1st place and getting 30 kills per round and dying maybe 5 or 6 times...

Felt exactly like MW1, no difference...

[spektical]

theres come a point when the game has been modified to appease every single player on earth, and thus make the game a casual FPS and not a hardcore FPS, wer ther is a steep learning curve instead of being trigger happy not aiming and getting 20+ kills just cause the game makes it easy like that. Until then COD series (after CoD3) will be referred to as a noob FPS series.

[infekt]

Agreed. And thats what the author was saying. MW2 is a casual shooter that is easily approachable by noobs. Nothing wrong with that. He was trying to make the point that games like MW2 and Halo have made the 360 a more casual shooter console of choice while the PS3 caters towards the squad-heavy players and (imo) a little more realistic. Again, its catering to two different styles of players. Nothing wrong with either. Casual players want to jump in for a game or two and leave. Other players want all the war tactics, which they are getting with Games like BFBC2, MAG, KZ2, SOCOM...

[ATi_Elite]

You can laugh but Americas Army 3 has tons of team work and is a good game. go lone wolf in AA3 and you'll be screaming MEDIC in no time.

This game requires accuracy teamwork skill strategy and communication unlike MW2 where you can just run n gun and gain points.

Shoot your teammate here and you go to jail. dedicated servers admins Clans 12 0n 12 carnage. this is one of the better online FPS out.
Guarantee you won't get over a 10 kill streak in this game.

unless you like dumb down run blind shoot blind then MW2 is for you

[JonnyBigBoss]

It's definitely casual. No argument here man.

[chidori666]

the noobs of cod blame of killzone 2 controls cuz the pathetic auto aim of cod..

[Henry Cain]

I really agree with this article. KZ2 is easily better than the MW series. A lot of gamers prefer the easy FPS over the harder ones. BFBC2 is another great game, but will not sale more than MW2. The majority of my friends prefer MW over KZ2. They say KZ2 is just to hard. Its the same with Demons Souls which as of right now is the best RPG i've played since the old days of RPGs. Extremely difficult and thats how I like it. Unfortunately most of the time your only the best if you sale more. I think PS3 owners need to support the exclusive games more. If that happens thats less ammo that media or M$ has when it comes to talking about the Sony and the PS3.

[dragonelite]

Dont know killzone 2 online at higher level is really the matter who can spawn kill first. Its far from balanced like mw 2.
But dam do i love killzone 2 death animations there the best there is.

[Azmatik]

completely agree with you

[gamer24]

i agree with you both i played bad company and if you dont use teamwork your done i like teamwork so when i got cod i played capture the flag and no one ever goes for the flag they only camp i go for it but theres always a chopper or a nuke i cant play capture the flag because of it

[Hanif-876]

If you point your aim it kinda automatically points it at your enemy, if they are somewhat close to your reticle. However, they complain about Killzone 2 controls because it requires skill....Fuucking Noobs!

[red2tango]

Even when I'm having a sh1tty day I can place in the top 3. This game is horrible. And so many little kids. I wish Zipper made a Socom that I could enjoy. I'm hoping MAG will be good.

[A LIVING LEGEND]

Don't peddle your wares here,please go elsewhere.

[Stationfan]

Someone mentioned K2 had about 500 people online a day, I was under the impression that it was around 10,000 on a slow day. Every time I logg on I see that there is 1000 pages with 10 people wouldn't that make it 10000 on a single day.

I also noticed since the price drop their are times that it will have 20,000 people up to the challenge of playing such a wonderfull hardcore game, were you earn your kills

[Dev8 ing]

There are about 90 000 users every week. I just got the top 1% trophy a couple of weeks ago and I was around 700 of 103000 users.

[thief]

I have played a fair few matches on KZ2 where both sets of opponoents were working together, as a team - those were among the best moments in my gaming life. Its all about tactics, teamwork, working towards the team objective rather than trying to rack up kils for yourself

[infekt]

I prefer SOCOM Confrontation.. but KZ2 is in my top 3. To each his own.

[Socomer 1979]

Correction: ps3 is the hardcore system for everything.
I can't stand socom haters begging for zipper to make a socom.
Zipper abadoned socom after socom 2 & and since the fake socomers have never been happy.

Slant 6 redeemed themselves with cold front leaving confrontation to be the best socom yet!
I & many others agree which is wh the online host 15,000 players every night.
What has zipper done? They made a bland amateurish fps game.
Zipper has been a dissapointment since socom 3. We don't want them back.
Slant 6 just had a very bad launch. So has every socom before it except you had a campaign to tinker with.

Mag I'm sorry to say is lame. I'm still buying it because I'm a ps3 fanboy but trust me thier will be glitches galore & zipper will fail as usual. I'm sorry socom bandwagon haters wish socom was Arcady again but the true socomers have evolved. Cold front is a success & slant 6 are the kings of map design, audio & rpg element gameplay.
Green up.

Ps3 is as hardcore as it wants too.
Get involved & face serious competition.

[Dev8 ing]

I agree that Socom is the most underrated game this generation. All of it because of a bad launch but playing it now isn't bad it's just that many people are just too good. The learning curve with this and warhawk are really steep.

[QUNE]

I didn't know cold front was out. I'll have to take a look at it.

[Shmotz]

People say MW2 takes no teamwork. My clan and I usually party and we break off into teams and pretty much cover each other or watch the objective/capture it. Yes you can go solo in MW2 but when you play as a team you pretty much steamroll the other team unless they are working together also. MW2 GB's and Clan Battles are awesome.

[powerhouse]

you are the exception 99% don't play like that u know that.

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

What I've noticed is that people use the noob tube more on Xbox Live compared to PSN...

[SoX FireBlade]

wana game that needs skill and teamwork ?

try Halo 3 with MLG gametypes specifically

[BaSeBaLlKiD721]

or Killzone 2

or SOCOM Confrontation

or Warhawk

or MAG

[spektical]

any game with MLG rules can make anti nooby, but i have doubt for MW2

[SoX FireBlade]

I played killzone 2 of these games

the controls ruined the game seriously but it was less noobier than MW2

and yea MLG rules makes the game anti nooby but in Halo 3 with forge it makes it alot much better

for modern warfare 1 pro mode for the pc is good

[spektical]

most people will agree MW2 is a nooby game, even the top people will say it, but MW2 is addicting. i still would favor KZ2 if i hadnt broken it ...

[SnukaTheMan]

I swear people just want to get the most kills or something...have their friends log onto another gamertag and lets their friend keep killing them...every game has cheaters but this game is just ridiculous with cheats. I earned all my wins and some idiot can be on my team and hide with his buddy and use the tactical insertion and ruin the game....I probably have about 200 losses with this sort of nonsense going on...terrible.

[bjornbear]

thats why i didn't get it

i'm not going to spend my time playing with a mass population of n00bs

KZ2 and Battlefield 1943 has some real gamers, and they give me a good challange =D

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

lmao!!!!

[Veneno]

This is why ppl flock to Halo and COD. because Joe Schmoe Gamer and Imbred Jed can't play anything requiring skill.

[Commodore]

COD MW2....Biggest online disappointment of 2009, woulda said ever but SOCOM 3 was a let down.

203'ing noobs only play this game....Oh and they camp. There is no skill in THIS GAME and the maps suck.

[Mo0eY]

Most hardcore FPS breakdown:

1. Counter-Strike
2. Counter-Strike: Source
3. Killzone 2

Bots be hatin'.

[Azmatik]

agreed

[iamgoatman]

The PS3 is the system for hardcore FPS fans? You've got to be kidding.

The platform of choice for FPS games has, and always will be the PC. You can't compare Killzone to games like Counter Strike.

But anyway, COD can be pretty "nooby", normally due to the enormous amount of people playing at a time, with your average gamer doing anything to get kills. But like many games, it all depends on who you're playing with. Get a group of people set up at a LAN party on any system and games like COD can turn pretty "hardcore" and tactical.

[Halo3 MLG Pro]

LMAO! So many childish websites nowadays. Everybody and their grandma can put up a few cents and create a silly website and put their juvenile journalism.

[Dev8 ing]

I laughed at the dude saying that people on the PS3 can't communicate because of all the static. Obviously hasn't tried online and doesn't know that pretty much any blu-tooth headset works with the PS3.

[Solans Scott]

As long as people have a kill/death ratio to worry about and new weapons to unlock cooperation is going to be secondary.

[OhMyGandhi]

this article is so true.
I guess the notion that you can kill a person by shooting them in the foot with a single bullet is good enough for all novices to "jump in" on the action.

Funny that you mention Uncharted 2, because that's actually one of the few games that when playing with friends, you CAN have a decent amount of teamwork and S-T-R-A-T-E-G-Y to win the game.

[mario888]

I have many friends who are very good at games with Auto Aim like MW2. They even think they are better then me but when it comes to games like K2 and MAG they are way out of there League.

Most noobs will look you right in the eye and swear to you that Mw2 and BTF2 is a game of skill. Most of you will look at this video and think it's easy but it not. What you see is real run and gun skill with out auto aim. Not I see you , I pull my gun up first, Auto aim takes over, you are dead and I so good.

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[pimpmaster]

WA WA WA WA WHAAAAAAATTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

" Sony's PS3 is the system for hardcore FPS fans."

werent the ps3 fanboys always saying 360 was just for shooters. nothing but shooters. now this?? i feel so wierd, this comment makes me kind of angry confused and in disbeliefe someone would say something just that ignorant to call ps3 the FPS console.

[OhMyGandhi]

the 360 has alot of shooters, and comes to my mind as the "shooter console" not because it has the BEST shooters or whatnot. But because Microsoft simply stands behind their shooting games. Which isn't a bad thing.

[Socomer 1979]

I saw a billboard on 42nd Street, Times Square of Obama Selling a Coat.
You of all people should know that things change. XboX dont have the good FPS No More Since Metal Gear 4/MGO.
Where were you?

[pimpmaster]

lol!, mgs4 and mgo, some of the worst controls ever IMO. they work for SP but for MP theyre horrible i bought it when it on launch date and mgo is one of the worst MP ive ever played. its like a tactical tps but worse way worse.

[Karooo]

Mw2 and halo3 noob paradise :|

[xx SgtP3pp3r xx]

The lack of teamwork and tactics on MW2 is one of the reasons I can't stand it. I can deal with games like Halo that are run and gun but MW2 could have been tactical but the way its developed sucks.

[kewlkat007]

Please!!!! dude your killing me...

To each his own, I suppose.

[Morbid Bulldozer]

Yeah, it's like saying "X360 is the place for HD movies". I was playing MAG last night and it's obvious that DS3 is not made for FPS games. It really needs a redesign. It's obsolete - fix it.

[Azmatik]

ok im gonna start off by saying XBOX has no FPS's LOL as if you fanboys are that obsessed with you xboxs serisouly i do agree it is very hard to communicate with other plays VIA headset because crackiling but when me and my buddys play together i hear them very good perhaps b/c we all have official ps3 headsets? anyways back to the point oh xbox owns everything for FPS because we have halo (lmao) and a horrible controller set up that we think is good and for people saying PC is the best for FPS (lmao) give me a mother f**king break SERIOUSLY it was the best way back in CS 1.6 now PC is so pirated more than 75% of the PC population cant even go online! or cant even run the FPS games because you have to constantly upgrade meanwhile i can play KZ2 IMO the best FPS ever! so dont talk to me about PC best for FPS b/c i have a very nice PC and what do i use it for MSN and N4G bottom line PS3 has the best and most FPS games i dont wanna hear oh PC has the most PC does not count b/c PC is a piece of S**T go ahead and download your games on PC and play single player b/c u know u wont go buy it and PS3 supports a LVL up system for your PSn and trophies wich PC has no reward system unless its implemented in the single game itself = FAILS and for XBOX i have nothing elts to say about it other than its all lies NO exclusives NO FPS's NO good gameing unless you are a Wii fan who enjoys corny little avatars doing nothing on your screen but making you look like a kid gamer the truth is spoken!

[Morbid Bulldozer]

Actually I find KZ2 much easier and noob-friendly. I'm pretty mediocre at FPSes, but I was usually in top 3 in KZ2. Even with the laggy controls, it's pretty easy to score a kill and it's very easy to camp.

[Rob Hornecker]

For those that like the team aspect of MW2 there is always the "spec ops" mode is the true meaning of teamwork. I'm not totally sold on MAG or SOCOM for a teamwork FPS. A true test of teamwork wold be Operation Flashpoint 2 or Americas Army...to get anywhere is those games,working together is a must!

[xx SgtP3pp3r xx]

Socom is the ultimate game for teamwork. It is a bit too hardcore for people new to the game though so that is probably why your not sold on it. Get in a clan with people you enjoy playing with and the tactical aspects of the game is limitless.

PS: Socom is third person not an FPS.

[Anisus]

No console can be a hardcore FPS system, FPS is made for the PC and no controller ever will surprass the effectiveness of a keyboard and a mouse in FPS games.

I've been playing fps games since 2004 so I might not know much but atleast im not blind like some of the people commenting here.

"First the PC that is undenyable second the 360 isn't even as good as the ps3." I can give you ONE game that got better teamwork, better controls, better competitive tools and tournaments that is better than any of the games you guys mentioned (and because you all talk about "this gen" I'll give you a game that is not so old)

Team Fortress 2, google that.

Now before you all jump on me and say my comment is not important because I dont own consoles, I have a ps3 from 2008, got it for my birthday, and an xbox from 2009, for my birthday too.

I've played MAG beta, I've played Killzone2, and I wont even come close to Halo since I dont like its play style. I've had Socom on my ps2 way back, played Socom Confrontation and every Call of Duty game from CoD2

I must say CoD is an overrated franchise. "CoD4 revolutionized the FPS gaming" what a bull****, it just came with a different approach to the FPS market. I liked the multiplayer for about a week, left it to rut after.

MW2 is the same sad story, played the multiplayer for a week and didnt play it since.

I just can't play games that stuck you in a small corridor with 10 players and making all the walls in the game feel like paper since you can shoot bullets through any wall, doesn't matter how thick it is.

Making a game on that mechanic is a fail for me.

[Rowsdower]

on the 360 in my clan matches we communicate and strategize on every map. In KZ2 I'm lucky if someone on my team has a mic. If any sony KZ2 fans communicate with a mic please hit me up:

Rowsdower1979

there are noobs everywhere, to say that there are more on the 360 is just flamebait, quantify what constitutes a noob and show me stats, if you cant then stop trying to start fights because you "feel" something to be true.

oh yeah same goes for mag, no one talks.

[Morbid Bulldozer]

Agreed. You can't make people play like a team, but doing so is a huge advantage in all FPSes.

[powerhouse]

Most people on 360 are either glitching or acting like a 4 yr old first of all. I've played Halo 3 , and COD most people are retard. Gears was about the only game on 360 that required some skill and peopl acted half way decent. don't come in talking out your A$$ about mics on PS3 because if you ply you'd know that your just in here to protect your cause.

[Rowsdower]

like I said in my post:

my gamertag on PSN is
Rowsdower1979

I play KZ2 all the time.

Speaking of gears my clan on the 360 started as a gears clan, now we just play together all the time against other like minded clans. One thing you would notice if you weren't too busy being an asshole is that there are noobs everywhere but if you look hard enough you can find cool people to game with online.

speaking of the mic issue on the PS3, it is a fact that more people on the 360 (for better or worse) have mics because the thing comes with console. This is not the case on the PS3 where you have to purchase a mic separately, not putting it down its just a fact. So in my experience with KZ2 and MAG, there are far too many people without mics thus making cooperation difficult. All I'm saying is that if you play FPS or any game that involves cooperation and strategy please buy a mic if you dont have one, because on the PS3 (as on any platform) when folks communicate the games are so much more fun.

so powerhouse I'm glad I got you so angry I hope it inspires you get on PSN, friend me, and then I can kick your ass online.

[Senden]

To be honest, hardcore fps gamers don't play 360 or ps3.. they play PC because they know no matter how good a fps game is, it just can't compare to keyboard and mouse.

[powerhouse]

MW2 is just not fun if you like tactical shooters and team work based games. Mw2 is unorganized and chaotic repetitive and lacks depth the kill cam and revenge are stupid. Uncharted 2 is a way better shooter online if you want to play a fun shooter.

[OC_MurphysLaw]

Another article about someone groaning and trying to draw attention to their beloved because their console of choices exclusive FPS games (KZ2 & MAG) are not getting the critical acclaim they wanted compared to MW2.

KZ2 for all its beauty is not the be all end all for shooters. Controls are wank and the story line from the actual single player was horrid.

MAG has lots of players, thats it. Nothing else about that game makes it better than any of the top shooters out. MAG will appeal to a small sect of gamers and that is it.

MW2 while not perfect is a fantastic shooter for all to enjoy. Noobs can compete decently, but teamwork and players with skill will always own the top spots.

And let us not forget Halo 3 which is still one of the best balanced and teamwork oriented shooters out when it comes to online.

Get over it

[Kainewynd2]

I mean, hell, the entire article is based around a fanboy statement (not to mention the title):
"I am going to come flat out and say this right now. Sony's PS3 is the system for hardcore FPS fans."

There is inflammatory and then there is downright ridiculous. Doesn't this violate the rules of article posting already?

[ClosingRacer]

The xbox has official headsets...it comes packaged for free in the xbox 360 box...unless you buy an arcade ( i never said it was great) the best part of it is that it is FREE! i rather take a free somewhat good headset then buy a 50 dollar official Bluetooth ps3 one..I hate bluetooth so i won't even bother with it...anyways Killzone 2 isn't that great of a shooter...Yes it looks great but still i don't like it..it was a hype machine which didn't totally delivered And MAG is horrible..i played the beta on the 5th or whenever it first started and never played it since.... I hate MW 2..

Lol and to the poster above me you are obviously a ps3 fanboy and a idiot...cause saying the xbox 360 has no FPS or exclusive ones you are lying big time....you might not like halo 3 but you have to admit it is a exclusive xbox FPS..bad or good....I have both a ps3 and xbox 360 and i admit i am biased toward the xbox but i wouldn't go out and say there is no exclusive ps3 fps games which isn't true they have killzone 2 and resistance 1&2 ..

[taylork37]

Flamebait...

Knowing that MW2 is doing really well on the 360 (whether or not you agree), I clicked on this link after looking at the title thinking: I bet this guy starts man-loving on KZ2. Laugh...wow what a surprise.

KZ2 is the best FPS on PS3, but to call it the FPS console of choice because it has that game is such a joke.This guy as an author is a joke.

And MAG....seriously?
I just played the Beta.
It is a cut and paste shooter with HORRIBLE graphics with 128 players. If you think that adding 100 players to an overall sub-par game is going to revolutionize the FPS genre you have problems in the head. No wonder you are dumb enough to think that PS3 is the FPS genre of choice.

[mario888]

Skill = Eye & Hand Coordination combined with reflexes. ( reflexes is the same as twitch skill )

Killzone: No Auto Aim requires skill, recoil on guns throw you aim off, Also based on Objectives.

Bad Company BTF2: Has Auto Aim some skill require, Fun if you like this kind of game. Sniping is where this game appeal to me and it require a lot of skill.

Socom: No Auto Aim requires skill, recoil on on guns and is based on objectives, Only issue I have is the health system combined with third person makes is a camping game. Otherwise a great tactical shooter.

MAG = No Auto Aim and guns have recoil. This game is also based on Objectives. Now this is my kind of game. It's Socom in first person view.

COd MW2: COD Mw1 was already twitch shooter with lots of auto aim. MW2 took the Mw1 and stepped up the noob level so bad it really I see you first and you are dead. Tons of Auto aim with Bullet magnetism combined with the low health has ruined this game for gamers like me.

[iistuii]

Haha so sniping on BF is ok but as soon as you do it on MW2 its camping. I got sniped more on the Beta of BC2 than i ever have on MW2

[Truth]

I didn't give up because I suck, I was nearly at a 3:1 K/D ration, like 2.45 and my accuracy is like at 25% which I don't think is too bad since I've only been playing the game a little over a month. I'm just sick of people camping and then cheaping their way to massive kill streaks. It's almost as if kill streaks became the best and worst part of the game. I find myself playing Bad Company and Kz2 more then MW2. There just seems to be a lot more teamwork and it actually feels like you accomplish something when you win. And c'mon, nothing beats driving down a road, only to spot a sniper perched in a window. What do you do? Lob a tank shell into that b**** and cause him and a chunk of building to evaporate into small pieces. So, on that note, I personally cannot wait for Bad Company 2... just seems like there's so much more teamwork and strategy, which I like better in my FPS's.

[mephixto]

I have to disagree, MW2 is very competitive at least on PC. Try to this:

- 4vs4
- No Perks
- No Launchers
- No Shotguns
- No claymores
- No Killstreaks
- Only Copycat allowed for Deathstreak
- No Akimbos
- S&D, CTF, Demolition

[Stevo35]

I'm sorry, where do "Noobs" come into this. Crappy title that has nothing to do with the story!
Another thing, what is wrong with "camping". If you are defending a flag, isn't that camping? Should I run around and find people to shoot when I am defending? I think you mis-understand, FPS does not stand for run willy-nilly and shoot without any skill!
Having said that, it is BS in MW2 when your team watches the bomb but never attempts to deliver it. Then when you grab it, they all yell at you for... doing what your supposed to do??? Thats BS, but not because they are CAMPING. Its because they don't care about the experience points you get for winning, they only care about their kills. Which, by-the-way, is not the fault of WM2, but the people playing it. You do have incentives to WIN, they just don't care.

[iistuii]

Goes on about MW2 has no tactics,but MAG & K2 has and BFBC2 has . Well it's funny as whenever i go on my PS3 to play the MAG Beta or when i was on the BFBC2 Beta, No one even has a Mic , so how can you all sit there and say crap about teamwork when its impossible to communicate without a Mic.On MW2 there may well be alot of so called NOOBS on , because theres millions on at a time theres bound to be, but if you think a class player would ever lose a match to a noob then your wrong. The best players will always end up top.

[Scary69]

I agree though MW2 is full of noobs and campers, many of my friends stop playing this game because too many people were just camping. As for MAG it wasn't that great as I watch players shoot the enemy I saw many go through rounds of ammo before the enemy the were shooting at finally died. Will this be fix?who knows. I know MAG will not be a game I purchase anytime soon. KZ2 is good but I haven't played it in forever.lol

[BLADE_X8]

However, this does not mean that it is a "Newbie" game. Infinity Ward has obviously tailored MW2 after Halo. It's cool though, Halo has it's fans. I am not a fan of the KillStreaks, Camping, and people crying over kills....so I simply choose not to play it. (COD4, Killzone 2, and Uncharted 2 are my favorite.) NOt everyone is going to like the same game, which is shy there are not only multiple systems, but game genres as well.

[Queasy]

Your argument boils down to "The Xbox 360 is for FPS noobs while the PS3 is for true hard-core gamers because 360 gamers don't work as teams. As proof, I offer up the multi-platform title Modern Warfare 2 to show that 360 gamers can't work in teams. But, I'm going to ignore other shooter titles that have appeared on the 360 that encourage team work like Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, Left 4 Dead, Left 4 Dead 2, Gears of War, Gears of War 2, Army of Two, Army of Two: The 40th Day, Borderlands, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfare 1 & 2, Lost Planet, Rainbow Six: Vegas 1 & 2, and Splinter Cell: Double Agent.

But Killzone 2 and MAG are total proof that the PS3 is for true FPS gamers."

I roll my eyes at you. Roll heavily.

[xx SgtP3pp3r xx]

You don't know what teamwork is until you have played Left 4 Dead.

[gamer24]

look face it mw2 is not nearly as good as everyone thought it would be because of the freaking multiplayer. It is a let down because of the camping you dont have to run around but atleast move around a bit like honestly dont just find a spot go to prone and camp. You should move. If your team yells at you for picking up the bomb there retards the whole point of the match is to pick up the bomb. If they only want to kill guys and not have objectives then they should play team deathmatch or free for all. Its as simple as that.