Submitted by get2sammyb 2136d ago | article

How Far Have The Playstation 3's Graphics Progressed Since Launch - Killzone 2 vs. Resistance & More Comparisons

PushSquare.com: "The Playstation 3 has been on store shelves for almost 2 years here in Europe and subsequently longer in the US and Japan. Sony often bill their systems as having 10 year life cycles. We only need look at the difference between a Playstation 2 launch title and one of the later releases (God Of War II for example) to see how Playstation platforms are capable of standing the test of time. With 2 years of the Playstation 3's life come and gone, how have things improved visually?

Our comparison finds out." (FIFA, FIFA 09, Gran Turismo 5: Prologue, Killzone 2, MotorStorm, Motorstorm:Pacific Rift, PS3, Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty, Resistance: Fall of Man, Ridge Racer 7, Sonic the Hedgehog, Soulcalibur IV, Virtua Fighter 5)

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sak500  +   2136d ago
Not far since the pallette is just 3 shades of brown and 3 shades of grey.
Pennywise  +   2136d ago
You forgot 10 shades of ignorant.
get2sammyb  +   2136d ago
Hmmm. Try the Ratchet & Clank comparison then.
jBat17  +   2136d ago
how about the crapbox 3fixme?
it peaked in its first year. gears of lag 1 look exactly like gears of lag 1.5, i mean gays of lag 2..suckers who bought the 3fixme will now say it's not all about graphics .. i say, you should have gotten a wii instead..
trancefreak  +   2136d ago
Why talk bad about the ps3. Did it like steal your girlfriend. You guys flock in hear like a disease. Seriously is the Xbox 2 not satisfying you of late.
Why dis  +   2136d ago
So sick of PS3 fanboys thinking PS3 has something graphically great with KZ2.

My jaw drops when I play KZ2 not because it looks good but because I don't get WTF these guys are talking about when they talk up KZ2's graphics.

I'v seen games from 2 years ago that look better than KZ2 granted they don't have the amount of things going on at once.
psycho360  +   2136d ago

What do you expect from blind people who thot haze was gears/halo killer. If kz2 was 360 exclusive u wud hv seen their comments saying what a pale brown colored looking game with weak textures.
b777conehead  +   2136d ago
hey dis get your eyes chcked you blind 360 fan .
Obama  +   2136d ago
"I'v seen games from 2 years ago that look better than KZ2"

Pog, stop lying, u prick. KZ 2 is the best looking console game period. There's no contest unless you are a freaking bot.
AuToFiRE  +   2136d ago
how many 360 games have been compared to uncharted?

now skip forward a few years, how many 360 games are being compared to killzone 2?

now what has killzone 2 being compared to? Crysis

what is crysis? a graphical power house of a PC GAME

what 360 games have been compared to pc games?

now what was this about better looking console games?
doctorstrange  +   2136d ago
kinda annoying
how the article had no standard for which game was new and which was old i.e. sometimes the newer game is on the left sometimes its on the right
christian hour  +   2136d ago
Yeah that was kind of annoying, and the screens were far too small to even notice any difference in detail on most screenshots and comparisons. This article is kind of pointless, naturaly of course the graphics have improved, would be kind of wierd if they hadn't. They've just stated the obvious really, games improve graphically over a consoles life cycle. Way to go captain obvious!

I wouldn't mind that so much if the screen caps were at least a little better.
nix  +   2136d ago
looks like this is soon going to become a trend..
PS3 games vs PS3 games... PS3 owners are the real winner.

i don't know why it took KZ2 to make people realise PS3's power because PS3 always had great games. probably because of the infamous trailer they showed. but i'm not complaining... at least it has opened eyes of the many. good days ahead!
BiG_LU  +   2136d ago
Well I didn't read it yet but for what u said I don't care what other people think or the example they show cuz in the long way I think the PS3 will do pretty good and more with all those good games comming on the way, I don't gonna mention any cuz u know them already lol.
N4360G  +   2136d ago
Resistance:Fall Of Man had very good graphics for it's time,the PS3's graphics keep on getting better every year.
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thats_just_prime  +   2136d ago
I'm agree it is annoying and the screen shots were too small. They also didnt even really try to match them on half and half comparisons didnt make much since. Some of the old screenshots actually looked better

nix and no you idiot fanboy gamers are the winners this gen
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SaiyanFury  +   2135d ago
Yeah Sony's first parties seem to be competing internally, but that's not a bad thing. They all strive to deliver the best that they can at the time. With Insomniac offering help to all developers making PS3 games, there's little to worry about. We all benefit and I look forward to the games in the future.
Xbox Street Gang  +   2136d ago
If I wanted a console that was a place holder for the PS3... I would've bought a 360 in '05 because that console was tapped when Gears 1 came out. Guess you bots 'll learn when the PS4 comes out.
trancefreak  +   2136d ago
Ya but if it wasnt true they would mind their own business and here they are talking smack about the greatest console in the world. sad
Xbox Street Gang  +   2136d ago
What a stupid comparison. The only people competing with Sony's first-party is Sony's first-party.
get2sammyb  +   2136d ago
Hmmm. Not sure what your point is? If third-parties aren't willing to step up to the ball of Sony's first-party then that means you're technically being treated to a lesser product.

Graphics aren't everything but they're an interesting way to measure the progress a system makes techinically.

The PS3 is taking strides.
Godmars290  +   2136d ago
Pretty sure he's talking about multiplatform titles get2sammyb. Especially 360-build ports, that are never going to stress the PS3. Only have problems on it.

The thing is, are those same games already going to be having problems on the 360 the Last Remnant.
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games4fun  +   2136d ago
sony saw the multiplats not giving them 100 percent a mile away and focused on their first party at the beginning of this generation. smart move on sony's part. because waiting for multi's to come to grips took a year and half pretty much but with the focus on first party sony is releasing a multitude of great games all exclusive and a reason to own their console.
Kleptic  +   2136d ago
^^thats exactly it...over the PS2 generation Sony did nearly nothing but strengthened their internal development network...Sony saw the expense coming with HD game development, and was able to invest at the time where they needed to to get the best content to their own system...

this is the exact opposite of MS...whom has done nothing with their gaming budget other than throwing it around as handouts in order to share PS3 games...and all the while closing numerous in house studios...

a lot of MGS games are even based off of UE3...instead of MS building a proprietary middleware product line shared throughout their internal studios...they license 3rd party middleware instead...an easy way to make a decent looking game quickly...but never a way to push ANY envelopes, at least not after the engine is already 3 years old...

but Sony does this each generation...the 1st party stuff initially shows off what the system can do earlier on than any 3rd party software (well mostly, MGS2 was one of the first to push the PS2, MGS4 ditto for the PS3)...and 3rd pary stuff gets up to speed afterwards...you WILL see some incredible 3rd party content eventually, but for now...SCE is the only company pumping millions into the tech side of game development...MS isn't...and Nintendo doesn't even know what any of that is...
boodybandit  +   2135d ago
if you don't already you should blog.
You make more sense then most blog sites that make it on here.
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Zeus Lee  +   2136d ago
"The only people competing with Sony's first-party is Sony's first-party. "
Couldn't have said it any better.
PotNoodle  +   2136d ago
Why did they use a screenshot from the E3 2007 build of killzone 2? :|
Kleptic  +   2136d ago
because it is a very poorly done comparison...
Buttons  +   2136d ago
Because this article fails hard.
Cynical-Gamerzus  +   2136d ago
Fall of man is so inconsistant
The graphics style of Fall of man was inconsistant and had a fake (half life ) look to it their direction was off.
It had its amazing moments although little..
But it appears they had limited resources and not enough time for anything for that matter.
If they had the time (4 years ) on one title im sure they would destroy the competition!!
get2sammyb  +   2136d ago
Resistance 2 is also extremely inconsistent but -- I do believe Killzone 2 uses Resistance's water technology.
PotNoodle  +   2136d ago
Nah, the water in the two games are so very different. I actually think the water in killzone 2 looks rather naff whereas the water in resistance 2 looks just strange :\
Kleptic  +   2136d ago
yeah killzone 2 does not use Resistance 2's water at all...in fact I've never seen water that looks like that of killzone 2 yet...it has multiple layers with multiple real-time reflections...

but, at least for the big moving water body in the demo...there are no physics like uncharted or R2 incorporated...if you shoot it, there is a huge plume of water that jets upward, but no real ripples in the body...it still looks great, at the ripples wouldn't look right with the waves and the current of the water...but its definitely not an R2 water engine or anything...

however killzone 2 does have the ripples in other areas...puddles will react to bullet fire apparently...and there are areas of flooded buildings with 'still' water...that do have the uncharted like ripples according to some...but the big flowing river does not...
Fishy Fingers  +   2136d ago
Why didnt they use complete screens, rather than cutting them all in half? The Motorstorm comparison for example is pointless because of it, the original MS screen shows hardly anything while the other shows huge amount of content. Personally I think it could of been handled much better.
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ZEEBO4LIFESTFU  +   2136d ago
im a 360 fanboy and tghat was funny

it looked like resistancw 2. wtaht a garbage game that was
RememberThe357  +   2136d ago
Holy crap.
Proofread, anyone?
xwabbit  +   2136d ago
After you learn hot to type we'll talk xD
Calvin_ISA  +   2136d ago
"learn hot to type"
priceless. :D haha.
MADPIRAHNA  +   2136d ago
I do agree with your statement. Its just that after two years of taking abuse from the other side as well as the media, some guys need to let off a little steam.

The best thing we can all do though, including the other side, is be mature about it. The devs are really showing the ps3s' true power now, and we should just sit back and enjoy the ride instead of gloating at other people. After all, arent we supposed to be having fun with this thing.
3sq  +   2136d ago
why not being mature for two years ago? Trying to look good eh? If the other side didn't trying to be asshole for the whole two years, they wouldn't be getting this. They deserve it.

"You rip what you sow"

This should teach them a lesson.
madpuppy  +   2136d ago
It's "you reap what you sow"
dkgshiz  +   2136d ago
This site is kind of funny
Its just a bunch of jobless morons that need to complain about video games all day. You people need to get a career. I'm at work using my iphone right now. Seriously its time to get out of your parents basements and get a job.
UnwanteDreamz  +   2136d ago
Posting from my office at work, Mr. iphone
madpuppy  +   2136d ago
actually dkgshiz is
sitting at starbucks wearing a mock turtleneck shirt, sporting a goatee feeling all smug and condescending because he owns an iPhone.
redsquad  +   2136d ago
I have to look after my Dad ever since he had a stroke, so it would be a bit hard for me to go back to my job.
Sorry if that makes me a jobless moron.
yanikins111  +   2136d ago
Ohh.... feel like a f***wit yet mr iphone?

I just got home from work, ate, fed the dog, called the girlfriend, read up on some music stuff then came on here...

But alas I own no iphone so my life is somehow incomplete....

ZEEBO4LIFESTFU  +   2136d ago
your on here all the time doing nothing but spamming.
Mr Tretton  +   2136d ago
That Resistance vs. KZ2 was comparing bullshots, and funny enough, the KZ2 shot is from 2007.

I find it annoying that shots from 2007 are still used for KZ2, and on top of that, that sh*tty 2005 trailer
Trebius  +   2136d ago
Visual Progression
That's a given on any new system...youll see progress in the way games are rendered and in gameplay as a console gets older and older.

with age comes wisdom
CurlyFries  +   2136d ago
After seeing that Resistance photo I felt like playing RFOM but remembered last time I tried I died multiple times from the control scheme so I guess ill stick to R2. Although some of those games are old I still feel excited about them because I haven't played them in a while.
SmokingMonkey  +   2136d ago
correct me if i'm wrong
isn't Killzone2 only using 60% of the PS3's power? (SPU's)

if so we are in for some amazing looking Sony 1st party titles

60gb BC PS3 w/250gb hd = 10 year Gaming Heaven
drummerx2709  +   2136d ago
Your right. But...
KZ2 uses 60% of power only part of the time. Sometimes it uses 100% but that only happens when a huge amount of things are going on all at the same time.

Anyway, Sony is going to have some killer AAA 1st party titles coming out soon! Im pumped! Finally! Sony is getting back on thier feet and taking back the crown they deserve!
pete2711  +   2136d ago
Wouldn't alarm bells be ringing if games where looking worse after a year or more, On any console ever!!

What a ridiculas thing to ask!!

Of course the graphics are improving it's inevitable.
SAiOSiN  +   2136d ago
way to go and use the e3 07 build of killzone 2.
k1ng617  +   2136d ago
stupid and not helpful one bit
y0haN  +   2136d ago
They don't look all that different. This isn't a very well-done comparison anyway.
ToeKneeHaze  +   2136d ago
I thought RESISTANCE 1 graphics were fine for the time.

Indeed I thought its stylistic touch of dark and dreery atmosphere's added to the storyline

One thing that bugged me about the new resistance is they used a similar colour palette to Ratchet and Clank. Bad move on their part.

Screw people who complain about the amount of rainbow colours in games. Are they graphics designers are art aficiandos? Hell no, so why would insomniac cater to those freaks. I dont know.

MiztaToungueTwista  +   2136d ago
@ Why Dis
are you even sure you have a HDTV?
Why dis  +   2136d ago
*Samsung 1080p 46" LCD series 7

*Hign speed HDMI with too much bandwidth (Monster Ultra-High Speed 1000HD 10.2 Gbps) Don't even need that much bandwidth the PS3 only needs around 7gbps(6.68gbps) with full HD use... I got these cables for piece of mind, you know for the future.

*Monster Home Theater PowerCenter HT800 with Clean Power Surge suppressor.

I most likely see more than you do lol.

The hype for this game's visuals and all the fud to go along with it is so off from reality its *embarrassing* and I'm not even a loyal PS3 fan.

What else would was the media going to do? PS3 fanboys would eat the reviewers alive. Media and PS3 fanboys are too hungry.
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PS360PCROCKS  +   2136d ago
Resistance sucked. I hate that damn game. I always thought the graphics sucked, and I couldn't stand not having some sort of cover after playing Gears Of War for so long. I felt like I was ALWAYS getting shot, I dunna not my game I guess, can't like em all.
gameman  +   2136d ago
@ ^^^^
LOL good one^^
Baba1906  +   2136d ago
why did they compare god of war 3 to marvel stuff, if we had heavenly sword to compare it to. this is a really bad blog. they compared games that dont make any sence at all and didnt make it clear witch game was first.
CBaoth  +   2136d ago
Because in the US
Heavenly Sword wasn't a launch title. However, MUA was. Note I'm not defending the article, just addressing why the author used that comparison.
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Redlight  +   2136d ago
Why wouldn't you compare Resistance 1 with Resistance 2? What the hell does KZ2 have to do with it?

The guy's an idiot.
dj55555555  +   2136d ago
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jaidek  +   2135d ago
Yeah, these screen shots really aren't relevant (except for FIFA). People need to realize that the skill of the art team/programmers are responsible for the visuals and not solely the console. Not to mention, the toolset (Zbrush 2 for launch, Zbrush 3.1 now) for creating models have evolved over the years as well.

So next time you think your exclusive game, for either system, kicks the competitions arse, remember that it is largely due to the development team and not the system.
Droid Control  +   2135d ago
my friend keeps telling me there is no different between the 360 and PS3 in terms of graphics...
I say look at Killzone 2! developers have only had their system 2.3 years, developers have had the 360 well over 3 and still can'ty match that!

AND the 360 is easier to program for!

FACT= PS3 more powerful!
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