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Sony's lack of first-party focus left PlayStation Showcase feeling like a letdown

What might Sony have in store? Expectations were sky high following a string of blockbusters over the past few years, all of which were largely detailed before the console's launch. What was next? Sony told us a few game names, showed a few CGI trailers, but ultimately these were just glimpses

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sparky77339d ago

I am glad someone else is pointing this out, Sony's first party must be in development hell right now. We have seen multiple projects cancelled and are being told to keep waiting. I mean what happened to Factions?

Sony seriously need to considering replacing their management teams because someone has dropped the ball.

Flawlessmic339d ago (Edited 339d ago )

Lollllllll ur trying way to hard and clutching at straws with this take 🤣🤣

I'm the first to say as far as big Sony shows are concerned this was a let down by Sony's very very high standards, the standards they set I might add.

To say the games are in dev hell and management needs to change is laughable.

This was clearly the live service show for them, and yea it was crap lol.

If you think Sony's next showcase won't be literal bombs being dropped then your living with the fairies.

Don't let the rare slip up fill you with to much confidence sparky, Microsoft can be kings of showcases but when it comes to actually delivering great games, consistently, there's only Sony.

P.s ur name reminds of the dog from a south Park episode, kinda fitting actually lol

sparky77339d ago

Wow so it's "wait until E3...." for Playstation now.

How the tables have turned lol

Flawlessmic339d ago (Edited 339d ago )

The irony was not lost on me as I typed it lol

Difference is Ms has been wait till e3 for what, 13 yrs now?

Like I said don't let the rare slip up fool you, by next show case, expect majority of the big names to be there, and it's not like we need to worry about if those games will be good unlike someone else.

So again enjoy your spiteful victory lap, it'll be short lived.

Looking forward to Ms showcase though give me a good look at motorsport and starfield and the rest will be a bonus. Hopefully see avowed and fable as well.

shinoff2183338d ago

The tables haven't turned though. You guys have had redfall and halo infinite the last 2 years

gleepot338d ago

A rare slip up? None of their showcases are ever good.

Lightning77338d ago

"Microsoft can be kings of showcases but when it comes to actually delivering great games, consistently, there's only Sony."

That's my thought as well. MS are just now having good showcases but barely deliver where it matters. You can have all the fancy and cool looking games in the world but it means nothing if we never play them or worse they're they're bad (Redfall)

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meanmallard339d ago

Yea, don't hold your breath waiting for PlayStation to go a whole generation without games just because they only showed things close to release....

By the time FF16 releases next month and PS5 is still outselling xbox 4:1 nobody is going to care about any of this.

If you're hoping this show (which was fine and showed a ton of games not coming to xbox) is going to be the downfall of PlayStation you're going to be extremely disappointed.

Always get back to playing Redfall in 30 FPS while you continue to wait for E3.

gleepot338d ago

But what happens to all the people that don't play or like final fantasy? FF isn't even a first-party game. Where are all of Sony's studios games? It's going to be a barren offering for the next year at least.

meanmallard338d ago

But what happens to all the xbox fans who aren't even going to get to play FF16?

Sony is not going to not have games next year, they just said in their financial report two days ago that they plan to release 2 or more big-budget games every year aside from all the smaller games they publish that people conveniently forget about over and over.

Tody_ZA338d ago

@gleepot What happens to all the people that don't play or like Starfield? Doesn't Xbox's entire generation hinge on that game according to articles on N4G like a week ago? You see how bad arguments don't hold weight?

shinoff2183338d ago

A particular fanbase has no room to talk about any of that if it's true lol.

Lifexline338d ago

I really just believe games are just taking longer to make and we shouldn’t expect games from franchises to release as frequent as they used to. Unless they have a 600 plus team even then it’s difficult it seems. Gamers have irrational expectations now they have to wait so those expectations can be met.

I feel bad for developers they have so much pressure from gamers like never before.

ModsDoBetter338d ago

Listen man, whilst the showcase was underwhelming, that’s some next level reaching to claim “development hell” for Sony first party studios, come on, this has to be a troll?

GamingSinceForever338d ago

Let there be development hell. So what? At least they have the decency and respect for their customers to not release a broken POS with delayed features.

Obscure_Observer338d ago

@sparky77

"Wow so it's "wait until E3...." for Playstation now.

How the tables have turned lol"

Lmao! XD

outsider1624338d ago

"Sony seriously need to considering replacing their management teams because someone has dropped the ball."

It's alright, someone dropped the ball on the floor. Can be picked, dust it and play again.
You guys need to find the ball first that you lost like what 13 years now?

MIDGETonSTILTS17338d ago

They were very upfront at the beginning of this gen that they were going to stop doing so much showcasing of games. From here on out, expect a teaser 2-3 years out, and gameplay 6 months or less away. That might be it for most games.

It delays a game about 6 months in order to produce a vertical slice for showing off. And, with these huge games taking longer and longer to make, 5 years on avg it seems, and a console gen is 7-8 years…. They can’t afford any delays, or they could miss their window to release.

Not to mention, we have to ultimately wait longer for the final product in order to get a good preview… it isn’t worth it, be patient.

Trust Sony to CONTINUE to deliver on promises.

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Relientk77339d ago

There was even insiders talking about how the showcase was getting delayed internally because their first party developers weren't ready.

Well I watched the showcase and the only developer who was ready was Insomniac Games with Spider-Man 2. So where are all these other first party devs that are ready? I saw CGI trailers from Haven, Bungie, and Firewalk Studios for what appears to be multiplayer GaaS games I'm not buying. So yeah definitely disappointed and underwhelmed by Sony's first party presence at the showcase.

sparky77339d ago

That was the reason there was no showcase last year, there is no excuse for showing nothing this year unless they are seriously struggling and in development hell.

shinoff2183338d ago

Sparky I don't think you know what your talking about. Development hell huh. Could be what theybare working on is just a big game could be anything but sony doesn't show things off 5 years to early so we will never know.

gleepot338d ago

@shinoff

except sony DOES show off things super early, their entire history is filled with games that were announced 2+ years ahead of time

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Asplundh338d ago

Games are just taking longer to make, they're going to have years where there isn't going to be a lot of 1st party games released.

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Gamerscore2077339d ago

It’s interesting to see Tom Phillips,a well known Xbox supporter, have this opinion about a PS showcase.

Very interesting.

masterfox338d ago

it seems that way but in the end was more than enough, they display SpiderMan 2, announced MGS3, the phantom ninja game looked amazing, helldivers 2 out nowhere appeared and it look great as well, and lots of other games too like Alan Cake 2, it was a pretty solid showcase imo, yes it was lacking alot more first partly titles, and lots of third party was shown and everyone think it was a letdown, but for this year it will be great for Sony.

Now that other thing nobody is talking is that first party devs are already in the works of the next IP and this is known and confirmed, for example ND, SuckerPunch, Insomniac besides SpiderMan, Guerrilla and who knows who else Im missing here, what Im trying to say is that these new IPs will probably come next year and so Sony already has on its pockets 2024 as well for gaming imo.

shinoff2183338d ago (Edited 338d ago )

For sure masterfox

I've got all the faith needed in Sony there's no reason not to. I've been simply letting off steam because I was let down with that showcase. I did not go into it with high expectations either their just wasn't anything for me to be super hyped about.

I also seriously believe Sony needs to invest in some sort of rpg whether jrpg or wrpg. They lack in the wrpg at the moment. 3 of the bigger wrpg studios/publishers were bought up

phoenixwing338d ago

Shinoff I agree with the rpg statement. I always want more of them and sony needs one

VersusDMC338d ago

They definitely don't need to invest more into jrpgs. FFXVI, Grandblue, FF7REBIRTH, and all the other jrpgs come out on Playstation as well.

And on the wrpg side baldurs gate 3, dragon age, Dragons dogma 2(is that wrpg?) Witcher all come out on Playstation as well.

As an aside...if Bethesda got tango gameworks(japanese developer) to make an elder scrolls game that played and had the same style as skyrim would it be a JRPG or WRPG?

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Steam’s Refund Policy Change Won’t Affect You Unless You’re A Lowlife

Steam is changing its refund policy, but you probably won’t be affected

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thorstein1d 3h ago

Should have happened a long time ago. People wanting refunds after 50 hours in game.

fsfsxii1d ago

Pc gamers will take this as an excuse to pirate things

KyRo23h ago

I'm not sure why you're getting disgrees. Whilst not all PC gamers are petty, an awful lot of them are lol

Crows9023h ago

Entirely untrue. Not any more petty than console gamers. The only large difference is console gamers don't have much of a choice.

Michiel198914h ago

Not sure why you're getting agrees. an awful lot of console gamers are overemotional twinks ready to go to war over a plastic box, I'll take being a pc gamer then.

Speaking about overgeneralizing much.

Nooderus5h ago

"X" type of gamer conversations are cringe

qalpha23h ago

Daily reminder that 'TheGamer' is a corporate-generated, anti-gamer, anti-consumer, clickbait web site. They are mostly A.I. generated articles that villainize gamers. They provide nothing positive and actively try to provoke and divide the community through extreme view points and politics. Do not give them any clicks.

Inverno23h ago

Only scumbags? As if people don't play their games on console put in the most amount of hours and return it to GameStop and trade it in for another game. But also how many people are actually do this? And what games have been allowed to be refunded?

DustMan23h ago

You can refund any game you've purchased as long as it hasn't been longer than two weeks, and you've played less than 2 hours. I wish they would change it to 3 hours because some RPG's have so much exposition that you may only get an hour total of complete gameplay. That's my only knock on it. I've refunded plenty of stuff I was just curious to try. I typically stay away from Early Access titles which are the only ones affected by this policy change.

Inverno22h ago

Apparently early access doesn't count, only complete games with a play early preorder bonus.

Gaming4Life198123h ago

I definitely know if I want a refund in 2 hours.

SegaSaturn66914h ago

I never liked refunding anything. Even if a film is bad, i dont want my money back. Sometimes things just aren't for me, and it's not the creator's fault necessarily.

Gaming4Life19819h ago

I feel you and i have never walked out on a bad movie cause I payed my money. I also don't refund games cause I'm a gamer and I know what to buy lol. I think having a digital refund is great.

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Outriders Dev's Next Game Has Been Canceled After Publishing Agreement With Take-Two Fell Through

Outriders developer People Can Fly's next game has been canceled after its publishing agreement with Take-Two Interactive fell through.

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Tacoboto2d ago

"the capital group of PCF Group S.A."

If you're getting funding from a group that needs two different ways of Acronyming itself, things will not go the way you want them to.

banger882d ago

If it was more online-only crap then good riddance.

jjb19812d ago

Outriders was crap. They slapped that game together and threw in a loot system to get players' attention. This game was absolutely jank and the always online nonsense made it stutter like crazy. People Can't Optimize.

thorstein2d ago

I liked Outriders but I could see where the artistic vision was compromised. The way the industry is now, it wouldn't surprise me that upper management would scrap something that didn't pull in money via gaas, mts, or other means.

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv722d ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle2d ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18812d ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio2d ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning771d 23h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga2d ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv721d 16h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer19921d 11h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21832d ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga2d ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan2d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit1d 17h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus231d 23h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv721d 23h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier1d 11h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan1d 3h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1012d ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos2d ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-1d 22h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac2d ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1012d ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic2d ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead1d 22h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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