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God of War: Ragnarök Would Not Be Better As A PS5 Exclusive

Breaking the usual PlayStation tradition, God of War: Ragnarök's critical and commercial success shows it doesn't need to be a PS5 exclusive.

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Jin_Sakai554d ago (Edited 554d ago )

Nonsense. Imagine if God of War were designed solely around the PS5 SSD and not a slow HDD. The game would also look and perform much better as a PS5 exclusive due to the significantly more powerful hardware. That’s a fact.

Flawlessmic553d ago

Didn't even bother to read the article, can't believe they even wasted there time trying to argue that it wouldnt be better.

Laughable.

KyRo553d ago (Edited 553d ago )

Tbh most people don't read the articles here. If journalists stopped click baiting or using sensationalized headlines, 80% of the time maybe people would spend more time reading articles. These days you never know what you're going to end up reading.

Hell you got got websites making a whole 5 paragraph article based one single tweet most of the time lol

AbdullaMTR553d ago

New Graphics / Game engine and tools need time to develop and optimize for a hardware , I don’t think this was available when they develop Ragnarok , we will see there next-gen technology in the next game.

Om4ever553d ago

There's already a huge difference : 30fps vs 60fps ... Why complaining ?

garos82552d ago

not good enough. you are still stuck in the past. the ps5 changes fundamental infrastructure to the old ways of building games. GOW : R does nothing new for the medium and thats a fact. you can count your frames all you like, but you cant compare the latest GOW to something as ground breaking as say Ratchet and Clank, Returnal and Astrobot. Thats what i want to see more of

dumahim553d ago

More importantly, I think there'd be a serious reduction, if not elimination of all those awkward transition zones that slow you down.

The_Hooligan553d ago

Agreed! Story elements would have bene the same for obvious reasons. But everything else like fps, graphics, loading times, etc. are already better on the PS5 and would have been even better if it was made for PS5 ground up. But regardless where you play, PS4 or PS5, the game is phenomenal. Such a clickbait title.

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isarai554d ago (Edited 554d ago )

Less limitations changes game design. The thing everyone seems to be struggling with is the term "Loading" honestly. Being able to load faster is not just minimal/nonexistent loading screens which is what everyonethinks is all that can change. If you can load things in faster, you can increase things like character movement speed, asset density and variety, more varied environments/biomes, etc. You wouldn't need bottlenecks like squeezing through gaps, elevators, long corridors and such to allow levels to load. It opens everything up. Couple that with the massive CPU leap from last gen and yes it would've easily made it better, if only from a technological standpoint.

Pedrof553d ago

I agree with what you say, but I'm pretty sure all this could be done on PS4 if devs put emphasis on these things rather than pure graphical prowess. Each and every generation of hardware have their limits. At the end of the day it all comes down to how devs choose to use those limited resources. A new generation just means less compromises for the same graphical fidelity, but as graphical fidelity increases new limits will be reached... So I don't think PS4 is to blame, it's more how devs approched their design. But sure, PS5 exclusivity would make it easier... for a time.

jwillj2k4553d ago

Congratulations you wrote an essay describing how water is wet.

dumahim553d ago

Could it? I think they showed that they were at their limits with Spider-Man's traversal speed on PS4 and even went to the point of duplicating data on HD many times over just to reduce seek time. The PS5 demo was like 6 times faster movement. You can take steps to make it better on PS4, but there's still a very real limit you're going to run into.
I suspect this is why the vehicles in Cyberpunk are so slow.

zarbor552d ago

Seems like no one agrees with you. Wonder why?

TheOptimist553d ago (Edited 553d ago )

"Less limitations changes game design."

Yeah, having more hardware power has made games shallower. As not a fan of God of War, the older God of Wars had better combat mechanics and I have no idea why that couldn't be carried over to the newer ones.

Just to make it "CiNeMaTiC"? Because that makes the game far less fun. And I see no reason why the combat had to be dumbed down. You could have the same story with probably little less graphical fidelity in the newer games.

Game design in mainstream games from Ubisoft, EA, Sony and Activision games has remained the same despite changes in generations. I would say it has gotten worse because developers, in the name of content and time padding, have started adding useless RPG elements (Again Assassins Creed and God of War being prime examples).

isarai552d ago

That has nothing to do with hardware and everything to do with the industry becoming as popular as it has gotten.

generic-user-name552d ago

"the older God of Wars had better combat mechanics"

Square, square, triangle, roll, repeat. I loved the earlier GOW titles but the new ones combat makes their combat look as shallow as a puddle.

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TheOptimist552d ago

@isarai

I know. That's why we need to stop pretending that games are evolving. They are regressing to accomodate the masses.

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Asplundh554d ago (Edited 554d ago )

Dumb article.

"The PS5 version offers better graphics in terms of lighting and particle effects, faster load times, and smoother integration of the DualSense controller's haptic features, but"

Sounds a lot like it would be better as a ps5 game.

SullysCigar554d ago (Edited 554d ago )

It IS better as a PS5 game, for all the reasons you just quoted.

It would be better still if PS4 wasn't being considered when making the game.

Hard to be that angry about this one, seeing as how it's still one of the best games in years, but I'd like to see last gen consoles dropped by the bigger hitters, LIKE NOW. PS5 is becoming more available now, so there's no reason not to.

Asplundh554d ago

Definitely, the game looks good regardless.

SurgicalMenace553d ago

Much like PC games; a cross gen game has features that are made available on higher end equipment not available on lesser equipment. All these people complaining about GoW, Horizon, etc like they aren’t visual marvels just sound ignorant as hell. Most people, statistically, don't even own the TVs or surround sound systems on a level to maximize rendering anyway. What's the issue?

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Neonridr554d ago

While it's nice that Sony was able to cater to their entire userbase here for those who haven't made the switch yet, saying a premiere 1st party title wouldn't be better building it from the ground up for the PS5 is ridiculous.

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God of War Ragnarok gets PC release date, but Steam Deck compatibility is still uncertain

God of War Ragnarok gets an official release date on the Steam Store, but Steam Deck fans are left uncertain about its fate on the handheld.

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anast4d ago

It will be listed as "playable".

Michiel19894d ago

I don't see it running any good on the steamdeck but maybe if they introduce enough options to lower the settings it might run semi decent.

Amplitude4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Its literally a PS4 game, and likely will be able to lower settings even lower than that.

Assume low and medium settings, FSR2 Quality mode 720p, and an unstable 45fps or a stable 40fps like any other PS4 era port (Uncharted 4 for example). It'll be fine on the Deck if it's your only option

anast4d ago

Same, it won't be "Deck verified" for sure.

smashman983d ago

Amplitude beat me to it. I'd like to add that games like returnal and ratchet and clank rift apart run on the deck and those are actual ps5 games.

just_looken3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

It should sense the games were made for hardware 12 years ago

Do not forget your precious god of war was made for the ps4 console first a console wayyy weaker than the steamdeck.

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smashman983d ago

Most games listed as playable are only that way due to needing to use the on-screen keyboard or some adjacent thing.

anast3d ago

GoW will be playable on the lowest setting possible, but it wont look good.

just_looken3d ago

I bet you it might be down to the stupid psn crap were it needs the server handshake or some bs for the trophies to work.

smashman982d ago

It depends on your definition of good I guess. I use my Steam deck to play my games natively when I'm away from my PC so admittedly when I'm on the deck fidelity doesn't matter as much to me.

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Single-Player Titles God Of War Ragnarok & Until Dawn Will Require PSN Account On PC

Sony Interactive Entertainment's upcoming single-player PC games like God of War Ragnarok and Until Dawn will require a PSN account.

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PrinceOfAnger5d ago

Sony will lose support and money from 177 countries that support Steam but do not support PSN!
Tell me about stupidity, I'll tell you Sony.
Its concern is to increase the number of PSN subscribers, at the expense of profit and
More sales for their games from 177 countries.

purple1015d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Thing is it’s free to create an account (for pc players)

So they don’t need essential / extra / premium tiers, there is literally no good reason. Stupid but I don’t know the ins-and-outs but I can imagine it’s just a dumb reason

Ohh actually maybe it’s to combat piracy, so the game will not launch unless you have psn, then Sonys server end would validate if it’s a real copy or a cracked one

That could be it

ApocalypseShadow5d ago

Ding ding ding. Your edit brought the answer. Lol

Sony wants to validate their games on PC so that they know who's legit and who stole them. I understand Prince in that we have too many accounts we have to make. And it's a slippery slope. Like ported Xbox games to PlayStation will require a Microsoft account. Besides the already Ubisoft accounts and Epic accounts. Hard to keep up with all these names and passwords.

But you figured it out.

blacktiger5d ago

so you are saying it's another DRM? And is it always online? even though it's single player offline game?

darthv725d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Its free... sure. The main issue are the countries that are not on the list to select when creating the account. And I don't think Sony allows nearest neighbor, where you pick the one closest to you that is supported. People can obviously pick any country they want from the list, but that then becomes saddled to them going forward. Personally my country is supported, and I have not felt the need to change it so I dont even know if you can after the fact. If I were to move to an unsupported country... would the games even work if it detects me playing it from one when I am registered in the other?

This all stems from the whole Helldivers fiasco. Countries that support steam, and let them buy it and play only to have them cut off because their country was not officially part of the PSN account creation which was later enforced after the fact.

Andrew3365d ago

I believe every Sony single player game has leaked online the same day it releases. Needing a psn account to play the game legally isn't gonna change the fact it'll be pirated same day.

Jingsing5d ago

They'll find out sadly that most of their games are pirated, Ghosts of Tsushima over 500k people downloading it not on Steam, It sold below 70k on Steam.

ApocalypseShadow4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Black tiger, we all know games are stolen all the time on PC. Stolen to play. Stolen and emulated to play older system's games. The only way to stop it or slow it down is to have some type of security measure.

They're businesses. They have every right to protect what they make. PC gamers don't have ANY right to steal it.

There's a grey area when it comes to games purchased and the companies make your purchase unplayable through updates it closing servers. And we decide to take measures in our own hands to continue playing what was rightfully purchased by downloading it modding the code. But it's still theft.

Some gamers don't like the measures because they want the option to steal. Not everyone does. But many on PC do. That's just the reality. You can hide from the truth. But the truth is still there.

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What good does it do to create an account (with fake information from another country) if the game isnt released in Steam in that country anyway?

Or are you expecting people to also have to create another steam account in another country in order to link it to the PSN account they now have to make, just to be able to play Sony games?

Its a dumb and unnecessary situation, simple as that

shinoff21834d ago

You make a good point about piracy. Still weird Sony is the only one under fire about this even though they aren't alone, ea, ubisoft, Microsoft, etc. I don't know why Sony doesn't sell in those countries, but it's their prerogative.

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ApocalypseShadow5d ago

I understand the account thing but you're way off on the subscriber thing.

just_looken4d ago

@prince

I agree and i see the defenders are here

Once again everyone you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles.

The use of programs like vpns are a banable offense to sony and like so many other companies are monitoring your chat/activity via ai bots.

You should not half to buy a game then fill out a form like your buying a gun just to play a single player game.

Every other launcher like ea/ubi/rstar/acti/blizzard/bet h You just need a email address/password acti has on some game the bs phone # crap or unless your going to buy something then yeah real info. But sony like i said you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample but that will be for psvr 4 and or ps6.

Magatsuhi4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

You're full of bs. I literally just made a fake psn account in el salvador and i had no issues. All i did was google map an address and a zip code and voila, psn account. Did not need to add any personal information.

Where does it state you need ps+ to play online on steam? You're being purposefully hyperbolic and dishonest or just stupid in order to spin outrage because you hate sony for very dumb reasons.

just_looken4d ago

choo choo here comes the sony blind boys

I never said you need psplus for steam never

I also said sense 2023 again 2023

But i get it its sony they do 0 wrong

P_Bomb4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

“…you need to give everything but a nude selfie/dna sample”

Nobody wants your dna. I promise you.

badz1494d ago

"...you need real information to make a psn account so you can only have one account you loose that then you loose all your playstation digital games and have bricked consoles."

It's one thing to be a hater but it's another to be full of crap.

1. I have multiple accounts in 4 countries for several reasons. And making the PSN accounts is free.

2. Lose your account, you lose everything associated with that account? Wow...like every other accounts too? WTH are you on about?

Amplitude4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Though I agree with you it sucks to have to create an account - literally not a single thing that you said was true.

-You don't need real information.
-You can have any number of accounts.
-Its rare to lose a PSN account, but the game is still tied to Steam no matter how you slice it. Once you have it, your game can't be taken away by anybody but Valve.
-You won't be banned for playing a single player game with a VPN on.
--There is no form or ID required.
-The Sony "form" requires the exact same details as Steam. It also doesn't need a phone number.

There are very real reasons why the account requirement is bs but every other comment covers that.

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StormSnooper4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Who gives a shit, they don’t want to sign up, they can always play other games and sign up to their requirements instead. You want PSN games, you sign up to PSN. Same applies to every other platform.

PhillyDonJawn4d ago

Kinda wild how Sony and MS care more about accounts/users than actual sales

TheEroica4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Sony fans don't care... They don't get the concept of why this screws gamrers over. Sony fans only know how to shill for the Corp.

fr0sty4d ago

We're too busy playing these games on our playstations to care.

jznrpg4d ago

This is extra money for them.

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CrimsonWing695d ago

Are we always going to get news articles on this? Yes, any Sony game on PC now requires a PSN and won’t be accessible to regions that don’t have the PSN infrastructure.

neutralgamer19925d ago

Exactly ots not like.on PC we already have so many different launchers.

Rockstar
Ubi
Epic
Battlenet
Steam.
GOG

What's one more and I already have a PSN account

Number1TailzFan5d ago

Meh, I mean in the 90's and early 2000's some games had built in server browsers or built in lobby/chat systems like Worms 2 and it's sequels, if not we had GameSpy or Wireplay to find online players.

Multiple launchers is kind of annoying though, TBH I would prefer just one..

just_looken4d ago

If you read the 2023 psn terms of service but this is sony so i know 90% here did not this is a pc killer.

Not only do you need real information so one account no way to make a dummy account and they need your address/real name some countries a drivers license but they also use ai to monitor you.

In there terms they are checking your ip address as the use of VPN's is against the terms and programs that cheat are also bannable but in the list they think 3rd party antivitus is cheating.

So yeah paying for god of war then filing out a form like your going to buy a gun just to play the thing to me sound's stupid but i am not a sony blindboy.

neutralgamer19924d ago

Looken

I didn't know that. It sucks and I for one will be very watchful of what I buy in the future from Playstation on PC. It's like Sony can't stay out of its own way when it comes to success of their games

hiroyukisanada5d ago

Why is this a problem? Just curious. Don't you need accounts for Steam, Xbox, Gog, Epic Games,EA, Blizzard,etc..? Why is it a problem if you need PSN?

darthv725d ago

There are close to 200 countries around the world. MS is supported in 98%, Steam 90%. Sony... less than 50%.

Grilla5d ago

You guys keep crying about these 177 3rd world countries.

CrimsonWing695d ago

How much of a % do these 177 countries equate to Sony’s overall sales by region?

InUrFoxHole5d ago

@Crimson
Would you say this is more pro or anti consumer?

romulus235d ago

LOL, I saw the list of countries that aren't supported by PSN, I don't think Sony has anything to worry about with any of them. These aren't the kinds of places where game consoles and games are selling significantly enough to matter anyway. Just certain people are trying to blow this out of proportion.

Hofstaderman4d ago

Trust me in those countries its cheaper to buy a console than build or buy a pc that can run ps5 games. Taxes and import duties are a real killer for graphics cards etc.

Giga_Gaia4d ago

The countries where PSN isn't supported definitely wouldn't move the needle in term of sales. In the end, they don't really matter. You can bet Sony did the math and have a lot more data than some stupid fanboys like you people.

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buffig5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

@ Darthv72 Ahhh yes. All the people complaining on forums are people from Cameroon. It's definitely not people who it won't affect making a massive deal out of nothing

darthv725d ago

...doesn't affect me one bit. All I did was provide a logical answer to the question hiro asked. People disagreeing does not refute the facts presented.

just_looken4d ago

@buff

Its funny you can tell the Americans so much now

Japan is part of the list sony has banned ghost of tsumia pc version people in japan wtf? every American meh im fine with this as they give sony all ther information.

Not to mention in alot of countries that this game is supported you still have issues with getting a valid working address then the whole information that they need. I would never give sony my govt id fuck that.

staticall5d ago

IMO, because it's a dumb requirement. Steam already has DRM built-in and it's working fine. And affected games are offline singleplayer games. This requirement doesn't help the players, only Sony stats.

Does this make tbe game better? No. Does this help the player or does it improve their experience? Also no. So why is this required? Just cause. So why anyone defends this again?!

just_looken4d ago

All those compaines need a email/password that is it oh your ea account got banned well unlink that one from steam make another relink sesne the game is on steam.

Sony need You email address password first/last name home phone home address/postal proof of age location country and ip address then will monitor you 24/7. You will also need payment information on console for ps +

You can only have one psn account sense it need's your real info in some countries it needs a attached govt id.

Your psn account gets banned then all these games are dead to you and your playstaion consoles are bricked sense you need a psn account/ps + to go online/get updates etc

You can not make a new account sense it will say hey you already have that info on this account that is banned sorry gtfo.

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truthBombs5d ago

MAUs is clearly just as important to Sony.

I say make signing into PSN optional. Give players a reason to use it.. like the recently announced layer that lets you earn trophies.

I'm not bothered but there are countries who won't have access to the game because of this.

DustMan5d ago

Oh noooooo! A common business practice! Still buying day one lol.

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God of War Ragnarök is coming to PC

Release date and PC features for God of War Ragnarök announced.

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Christopher5d ago

Two-yearw later on PC seems like their go-to goal with exclusives.

darthv725d ago

Less than two years now. Guess that window is slowly shrinking.

Christopher5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

LOL. I'll give you that one whole month sooner than exactly 2 years.

Edit: Not even that. Half a month. Day 1 releases are a comin' soon!

romulus235d ago

Still closer to a two year wait than not. Guess any hope of everything from Sony going to PC day one is shrinking though.

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Christopher5d ago

***Hopefully we will get PS exclusive multi-platform sooner rather than later as i want Sony to lose their monopoly of the gaming industry and to stop destroying MS. ***

Monopoly. of. the. gaming. industry. ???

Mobile market $91B
PC market $36.5B
Console market $52.2B
Sony market $30B

Did we change the definition of monopoly at some point?

I'm all on board games going more places, but these ridiculous statements and drive to act like Sony SP exclusives are shooting to be Day 1 releases anytime soon aren't doing that. It's just bad arguments.

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itsmebryan5d ago

True. Concord launches on PS5 and PC on same day.

raWfodog4d ago

Yep, you're right.
22 months is less than two years.

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Inverno5d ago

Next up, Last of Us Part 2, then Spiderman 2, and most likely Demon Souls in between. I know the argument is that they take 2 years and "who is gonna wait 2 years?" Blah blah blah, but most of their recent and all of their PS5 games, with the exception being Demon Souls, have made their way to PC. Never thought I'd see the day where I wasn't going crazy over not owning a PS, but now I don't want a PS5 at all.

Goodguy015d ago

Odd demons souls hasn't yet. I mean it definitely would've done numbers.

Inverno5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Demon Souls being the only Souls game out of the entire series that has remained exclusive to SONY would definitely sell like crazy on PC. Oh and GT7, always forget GT cause I don't play racing SIMS.

Tapani5d ago

There's FFXVI and Rebirth as well. GT7 would be awesome.

RaidenBlack5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Find it a bit strange that Nixxes isn't porting this one. Maybe they were contracted for both GoW ports?
Although their GoW PC port job was pretty good, it wasnt flawless at launch, but was still miles better than Horizon 1 or TLOU ports.
Hope they do a better/near flawless job with GoW sequel.

Master of Unlocking5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

Thankfully the different SIE regions operate largely in an independent manner, so SIEA's decision to release some US-made games like Days Gone, Ghost of Tsushima or God of War on PC still hasn't made a dent in SIEJ's decision to keep their japanese games like Bloodborne, the Last Guardian, or Gran Turismo 7 on Playstation, or SIEE's decision to keep EU-made games like Killzone Shadow Fall, Dreams, or Sackboy A Big Adventure on PS.

But that was on the PS4. Now for upcoming PS5 games, who knows.

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