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How Did Pokemon Scarlet & Violet Sell More Than God of War Ragnarok? | Podcast 61

TechRaptor, "On this week's podcast, we chat about Netflix Games, Ragnarok Sales, and Pokemon Scarlet Violet's Sales too. Plus Impressions of both!"

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Neonridr703d ago (Edited 703d ago )

the Switch has almost 100 million more units in the wild. Not hard to see why a game as popular as Pokemon would sell more than God of War.

Vits703d ago

That would be a good justification if GoW wasn't a cross-gen released with a market potential of over 130 million. Whereas the Switch moved only around 114 million.

The reason is more likely to do with the franchise power. On that front Pokemon is miles ahead of GoW.

Neonridr703d ago

fair enough, I totally wasn't thinking about the PS4 install base. I'm curious to know how games like Horizon and GoW sold on last gen vs current gen though. Seems like the PS5 was doing better sales.

Eonjay702d ago

Two reasons:. It's the biggest franchise on Earth and the the games sales aren't counted individually like all other games. They are added together. Always have been. So GOW can be the highest SKU but when we add the two Pokemon skus together we can say it outsold GOW.

1Victor702d ago (Edited 702d ago )

Remember if you want to catch ‘‘em all you need to buy 2 games 🤷🏿
That’s a potential 228 millions games 😱

shinoff2183702d ago

To be fair vits

My friend is specifically waiting until he gets a ps5 to get the gow. He might be just one person but where there's one there's many.

Vits702d ago (Edited 702d ago )

@shinoff2183

Congrats? Like that does not has anything to do with anything. But good for your friend.

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-Foxtrot703d ago

I think the answer to the question is obvious

It's still sad though we live in a time where a game which is poorer quality, not as good as what the franchise could be and also just barebones sells more than something which is overall better quality.

Again the Pokemon franchise is huge and so is the appeal but because of that people give it a free pass and continue to eat whatever shit is thrown at them. Literally the responses to it are like...

"Yeah it might not be the best quality, there's bugs, there's glitches, there's not a lot to do, the level scaling is rubbish, the designs are still not the best, the world feels empty or barren, there's very limiting character customization choices, there's not many engaging side quests, it's far too easy or even dumbed down...bu bu but it's still the BEST Pokemon experience we have and I'm having fun I guess"

We've been given so many subpar Pokemon experiences over the years that we settle anything just a tiny bit over the low bar set.

Neonridr703d ago (Edited 703d ago )

again, aside from the technical issues it is generally seen as the best pokemon game in a long time. Maybe that bar is low, but generally speaking people enjoy the games for the most part. I see my kid and the enjoyment he's getting from the game. You know what he hasn't said to me once? Why does the game slow down here and there.

God of War doesn't appeal to as many people, plain and simple.

Chard703d ago

Well yes, technical issues can be overlooked if the gameplay is fun.
It’s a bonus that many of the glitches are hilarious

senorfartcushion703d ago

It’s definitely worse in terms of quality but everyone I know who has both games have finished Pokémon first.

343_Guilty_Spark702d ago

Game isn't targeted to 50 year olds like you.

Stopac702d ago (Edited 702d ago )

That's a little presumptuous. Sometimes a game doesn't have to be technically optimized to have fun with it. I mean I played it everyday straight from release date to today and it's great. Makes me wish there was a switch pro but I'm having fun.

When did fun stop being the major contributing factor to what makes a great game?

Mr_Writer85702d ago (Edited 702d ago )

@foxtrot
"that people give it a free pass and continue to eat whatever shit is thrown at them"

A) The game is fun, performance can be poor and still be a fun game

B) It's more popular with children who don't care about performance.

Should I feel bad because I've bought three version, one each for my children and one for me?

You may deem me "part of the problem" and maybe I am, but when I not only have fun, but have fun with my children and we have some quality bonding time then you can't tell me I am not having fun.

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SeTTriP702d ago

Pokémon is older then I am it's a brand that far exceeds gow fan base why is this news, why is this surprising?

dekke703d ago

and its 2 games not one :P

Neonridr703d ago

even if you broke them up they'd outsell most titles.

DOMination-702d ago

When I was younger I worked in gaming retail and not once did I see someone buy both Pokemon games. Not doubting there are people out there who would but its a very small percentage and not the reason it has so many sales

SoulWarrior703d ago

How did one of the largest entertainments products ever outsell virtually every other game?

kayoss703d ago

Because
1. Pokémon is a very popular name brand across the world.
2. Pokémon appeals to a larger and diverse (in age) audience vs God of war which is targeted at a more mature audience.
3. Pokémon games are better advertised

gold_drake703d ago

i think age has little or next to nothing to do with it. look at call of duty. all of the kiddies play it.

Mr_Writer85702d ago

Kiddies who parents don't know how to parent sure.

I wouldn't let my 6 and 9 year old play them, but they have been playing Pokémon since the age of 4 (with my help obviously)

Most kids their age are more into Pokémon and Minecraft than COD.

Hence why especially outside of gaming both IPs are bigger than COD.

MajorLazer702d ago

I'd say 11/12 is a decent age to start playing more mature titles, whilst Pokemon is pretty much appropriate since birth.

Mr_Writer85702d ago

@Major

But still not old enough to play COD.

If you have a child who is under 15 years old playing COD you're a bad parent.

Fortnite
Overwatch 2

That's at least 2 age appropriate shooter games suitable for 12 years old and above.

masterfox703d ago

pokemons games are for people that are........nah I wont say anything. :D

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Jackbox Team Talks Exciting New Party Game Survey Scramble

The Jackbox Games team discusses their latest party game, the stand-alone Survey Scramble, which features multiple playable modes.

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Call of Duty Development Process Won't Change Under Microsoft;15 Studios Still Working on Franchise

Call of Duty’s development process will stay the same under Microsoft’s ownership, with no planned changes to its structure.

RaidenBlack8h ago

Now EA's following suit as well in order to compete with this CoD of a juggernaut sort of head 2 head ...
i.e employing 4+ studios for the next Battlefield game.
DICE for multiplayer, Criterion Games for single player/MP, Motive for single player, Ripple Effect for a "new experience".

Mr Pumblechook5h ago

Respect to Phil Spencer, it's because of his direct influence that Rossi was introduced.

RaidenBlack5h ago(Edited 4h ago)

And here I am just asking for a new Soldier of Fortune or Heretic ... but guess CoD even engulfed a whole studio for just gun trinkets

MetroidFREAK217h ago

I'm so glad I got out of the CoD hell hole

Eonjay7h ago

Thats... a lot of teams. That's why it's so hard to compete with COD. It's also why PlayStation is so vital to Xbox now. That's a lot of people who need to be paid.

Obscure_Observer5h ago

Playstation is just another revenue stream out of many. They´re important of course, but I think PC, Mobile, and Cloud are even more important.

i´m also curious to see how COD will perform on Nintendo Switch 2 after all those years that ABK has been snubbing them. Thanks to Xbox they´ll finally be able to play those games again.

Eonjay4h ago

Right Switch 2 (one assumes that COD really isn't going to run on Switch) when it launches will take a few years to build up a sizable audience. One imagines that that can help offset some of the sales lost on Xbox. But as you probably already know, PlayStation has been the biggest platform for COD sales by quite a margin for quite a while. Its not 'just another revenue stream'... its THE revenue stream (as far as Call of Duty). I really wouldn't expect that to change anythime soon. Also, remember when it comes to COD we are counting PS4 and PS5.

As far as Switch goes, the only way in hell I'm gonna even try to play it there is on one of the Pro controllers. The idea of trying to use the joy cons or the handheld itself is already making my hand hurt.

FPS_D3TH7h ago(Edited 7h ago)

15 studios is A LOT. That’s honestly insane. I thought 3 or 4 was kind of crazy but I suppose it took 3 years for 4 or 5 of studios to make the last one and if they’re coming out yearly still then maybe it’s still just 5 studios per release. I’d imagine 15 studios managing one single game would be far too complicated with way too many cooks.

dveio6h ago

Could be a good opportunity maybe for EA and SIE to start a collaboration with Battlefield.

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Johnh52234h ago

Sony couldve created there own with socom but there on a live service Bump crash then bump again.

Ninver2h ago

They need to bring brack Medal of Honor or remake Frontlines!

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Konami Announces Financial Results, Keeps Beating Records Among Gaming Success & Esports Initiatives

Konami announced its financial results for the first half of the fiscal year 2025, related to the period between April and September 2024.

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dveio15h ago

Although I still hold a little grudge towards them not just because of their treatment of Kojima, but also the demise of Pro Evolution Soccer, I am happy Silent Hill performed so well.

Looking forward to Snake Eater Delta, although I am still not so sure if I'll buy it.

Abriael15h ago

Silent Hill 2 is not included in these results. It was released after September 31.

dveio15h ago

I know.

But I still was happy it performed well..

;)

Cacabunga9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

So glad they are back in the game!
Regarding kojima story no one will ever know the true fact.
The guy cannot be that easy to handle for sure.

dveio8h ago

Personally, I seriously believe that Kojima's actually the type of person you'd consider to be too good-natured - often to his disadvantage.

Miraak82 9h ago

They need to bring back Castlevania , man how cool it would be to play in a full 3d castle on a scale of what SotN had , something with secrets, loops and items to find in every area .

OtterX8h ago

Yep! The Metroid Prime series showed that the Metroidvania style progression CAN work in 3D, it's just that Castlevania never hit the notes quite as right as Metroid Prime did. Souls games have integrated that Metroidvania-style progression also really nicely and shows what a Castlevania game could possibly look like in a well laid out, 3D world!

Miraak82 8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

I've always thought souls games are the closest we'll get to it but they don't have the integrated traversal with things like relics ( Double/long jumps, Transformations, Holy Symbol... ect ) that I really wanna see . Basically souls you'd just just find a switch, key, ladder or drop to a lower platform for 90% of the exploration but it's nothing like metroidvanias where you get to see your character progress as the tool to open the game further. I'm still hoping though ... even after 25+ years

OtterX6h ago

@Miraak82 Very true. Progression has never been item or ability based in Souls games, but it at least gives a good model of how it could be implemented. I sure hope they give Castlevania another 3D shot!

Pepsi_Man30007h ago

I'm still hoping we'll see a new 3D castlevania. If metal gear and silent hill came back then hopefully a new castlevania, whether it be a remake or new game, is on the way

CrimsonWing696h ago

Welcome back, baby. Don't f*ck it up, now.

Levii_925h ago

Are people in the comments here serious?

It’s Konami dude. 😂😂

Miraak82 5h ago

There's always room for redemption, look a SE and Capcom ... most of what they put out in the ps3 and a part of the ps4 era was utter dogpoop but in the past 5 years they've been hitting it out of the park with some quality shit . Konami are responsible for some of the best gaming experiences I've ever had so discrediting them would be a disservice to gaming . It's not like they were putting out shit games , they just bailed from the gaming space all together ... I can't say the same thing for for alot of other companies