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Intel PCIe Gen 4 Performance Evaluated on Z490 & Rocket Lake CPU Platform, Blows Away The PS5 SSD

Intel PCIe Gen 4 Performance Evaluated on Z490 & Rocket Lake CPU Platform, Blows Away The PS5 SSD

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CaptainHenry9161200d ago

It was just a matter of time ⏲️

Tech51199d ago (Edited 1199d ago )

and by the time actual next gen games launch, that will use this tech; prices will also drop by then.
so i'll probably wait till then after. then i can pick up one for cheaper.

LordoftheCritics1199d ago (Edited 1199d ago )

By second half of 2021 we will be seeing PCIe 5 GEN which has borderline ridiculous speeds. Basically hitting Ram speeds.

In fact it has been getting delayed since 2019 and is now slated for 2021 2nd half and 2022. By the time most get hold of a PS5 we will be hitting another new gen of tech.

In fact I think sony should just go ahead and launch a pro with pci 5.0 and new tech.

CrimsonIdol1199d ago

the PS5 is not bottlenecked in the slightest by PCIe gen4. It's SSD is plenty fast enough. Besides meaningless bragging rights PCIe gen 5 isn't going to mean squat to PC gaming for a long time. Hell, the huge performance difference between SATA and a gen 4 NVMe equates to next to nothing in terms of gaming performance at the moment. a second or two shaved off loading screens here and there. Whoopdy do. absolutely nothing on the very real and tangible jump from mechanical drives to SSDs.

8831199d ago

What a joke - Nice try:
The article states:
"In CrystalDiskMark, the Intel Z490 platform with Rocket Lake CPU was able to achieve over 7 Gb/s reads and over 5 Gb/s write speeds. These are much faster than the 5.5 Gb/s read speeds of the PS5 & truly an impressive showcase of where SSD performance stands right now on PC platforms."
Now Consider:
"Sony expects Kraken to offer up to 1.64 to 1 average compression ratio for games (hence the potential 8-9 GB/s rate). However, with Texture also onboard, that ratio goes up to 3.16 to 1, leaving an I/O unit bandwidth of *17.38 GB/s*, which is much closer to Cerny’s theoretical performance of *22 GB/s*. The PS5’s custom decompressor can offer equivalent performance of up to an unbelievable nine Zen 2 cores in a regular CPU according to the console’s chief architect in his deep dive of the PS5’s tech."

*AND EVERY SINGLE PS5 CAN DO IT...* Which means developers can actually make a title DEPEND on this capability...
It's going to be a while before P.C. gaming can even THINK ABOUT using *this element* of technology as well. P.C. absolutely DOMINATES raytracing, but let's not try to win where there is nothing close to a win.

8831199d ago (Edited 1199d ago )

Disagree if you know the PS5's I/O trumps the PC. Agree if you agree ;-). Go ahead.
I love how disagrees come from those unable to acknowledge that at least *in this respect* the inherently antiquated architecture of the P.C. platform has some major catch up to do. Brute force doesn't fix outdated architecture. The article's own admission places the P.C. performance in this metric WELL behind what some developers (and Mark Cerny) have indicated the PS5 is capable of. Wonder how long it will be before enough people have P.C.s that will enable developers to create a game that REQUIRES this type of technology. Good stuff.

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CaptainHenry9161199d ago

@LordoftheCritics

I'm looking forward to PCIe 5, Z590 motherboards, and DDR5 Ram. Alderlake intel CPU is going to be a beast

CrimsonIdol1199d ago (Edited 1199d ago )

Alder Lake will have Gen4 PCIe

edit: my mistake. Rocket Lake will have Gen4, Alder Lake will indeed have Gen5. Not much to go on for Alder Lake yet, other than supposedly it wont be basically the same CPU they've been rehashing for the last 9 or so generations.

Azurite1199d ago

PCIe 6 is where it's at.

CaptainHenry9161199d ago

@Azurite

PCIe 6 won't be out for a while

Benficaman1200d ago

thats to be expected, but... at what price?

Neonridr1200d ago

it tells you in the article

Duke191200d ago

Price is actually way more reasonable than expected imo.

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Duke191199d ago

@ZeroBlue2 - Sure, but its brand new tech. So I always think that stuff is vastly overpriced. Just means that in a year or so, we will likely see something even better and this will be a fraction of the price.

Impressive how fast the tech changes

cfir1199d ago

$159 for the Motherboard
$229 for the SSD
and unknown for the not yet release Intel Rocket Lake-S CPU that's also required for PCI GEN 4.0 (Read an article which reckoned a starting price of at least $112)
So basically for about the cost of a PS5.
Exceeded the raw speeds, but probably doesn't have the additional interrupt levels etc

Ju1199d ago (Edited 1199d ago )

What about RAM + GPU, Case? Also, the 7GB/s mean nothing on a PC - I got a NVMe RAID0 which can hit that and its still only marginally faster than an 500MB/sec SSD. Until there is direct storage utilized widely this doesn't do much

jwillj2k41199d ago

Clearly the words of someone whose buys their computers from Walmart.

RedDevils1199d ago

Sound like this could double the PS5 price, if includes the CPU/GPU/PSU/RAM excluding the case.

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Gamist2dot01199d ago

Mark Cerny did mention about the 7gb SSD speed for PC in his PS5 presentation. Only difference is his projection was a bit early.

TheTony3161199d ago

I bet it's more than a PS5.

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FyBy1200d ago (Edited 1200d ago )

Of course it blows away PS5. PS5 is mainstream product. This isnt. And it was about time. Bring more...more....MOREEEE :-D

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Microsoft’s Surface and Xbox hardware revenues take a big hit in Q3

Microsoft just posted the third quarter of its 2024 fiscal financial results. The software maker made $61.9 billion in revenue and a net income of $21.9 billion during Q3. Revenue is up 17 percent, and net income has increased by 20 percent.

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darthv721d 20h ago

Xbox content + services up 62% while hardware down 31%... seems about right with the way they tout you don't need the hardware to play. People can play on their phones or smart tv or other means. I don't hardly play on my consoles directly since getting devices like the logitech g-cloud and ps portal. Which is to also say I have been playing more digital than physical because of these devices.

solideagle1d 7h ago

you should apply in MS PR team buddy, I think you will do a great job in my humble opinion :)

Sonic18811d 4h ago

I thought darthv72 and Obscure_Observer already work for Microsoft 🤔

dveio1d 4h ago

MS: "Xbox services and content without AB up 1%, with AB up 62%. Hardware down 31%. In total a loss of 350 mill."

darthv72: "Seems about right."

MS: "Excuse m ..."

darthv72: "I don't hardly play on my consoles directly."

MS:

Lightning7723h ago

What he said was facts. How he plays games is no concern of you. Don't get too mad about it.

Cacabunga1d 6h ago

I can tell people like you are an absolute minority..

If service is up means their fans and fanboys accepted this model and subscribed to it. The near future you will see a big decline because the service is saturated.

darthv7217h ago

to you it may seem like the minority... but your bubble is shrinking because more and more are following suit. convenience is a hell of a drug and its also why physical sales only amount to 30% of overall game sales. times are changing, you either get with them or you get left behind.

neutralgamer199212h ago

Darth

30% physical sales: yet Phil and xbox division are in a rush go give up on that 30%. they don't have any right to give up any piece of the pie since the control such a little of the pie to begin with

also, the market is clearly speaking that the model Xbox is pushing isn't working right now the keyword being right now. you are right about freedom to play anywhere so i hope they put their games on steam

shinoff21831d 6h ago

But that's been ms for years. When things aren't going their way they try to change the way things are said. For instance console sales are down, they stop telling how many sold instead telling us how many hours spent in halo or headshots. So it makes sense console sales down just say people are playing on more devices then previous. What they won't say is how many xbox players jumped ship to ps5.

Cacabunga1d 5h ago

Hardware sales are so bad that Sony and Nintendo are blowing the sales off the water with their hardware.

If Xbox are losers, others aren’t..
Xbox already tried everything with Xbox live then subscriptions went down so much that they had to find something else. Their fans subscribed then reached saturation rather quickly.

Hardware and exclusive games is where it’s at! Keep gamers excited, announce decent software and people will support you

itsmebryan1d ago

@shin
Well keep it simple Sony 's operating income is down 26% and Microsoft's is up 32%. No MS spin there, just facts. 😉
Cheers

S2Killinit17h ago

MS is after diminishing consoles as a medium. They want to destroy this market because they couldnt win. MS’s vision is to dissolve console gaming.

romulus2323h ago

Odd that a company that touts you dont need the hardware to play is already touting another console in the works.

darthv7223h ago

They are not reliant on the HW but still want to maintain a presence (no matter how small) is a good thing. It shows commitment to the craft. It reminds me of SNK and how they made games for their own hardware (Neo Geo) while also making them for others because they knew there was a market to do so. They knew they would sell more to others but also sell to their own niche fan base.

TheEroica17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

Perfectly reasonable post down voted by insecure corporation friendly folk.... But not gamers. Real gamer want accessibility and ease of acquisition for all.... Company shills are the only ones still telling us that hardware locking people from games is good for us.

Chevalier12h ago

@Darth

You should stop parroting metrics like an idiot without context.

"Xbox content and services revenue grew 62% in Q3 from a year earlier, “driven by 61 points of net impact” from the purchase of the third-party video game giant, Microsoft said."

61 of the 62% was from their merger so net increase is ONLY 1%

https://www.mesaonline.org/...

itsmebryan3h ago

@chevalier

It looks like made a great purchase. Much better then Sony buying Bungie. 😉
Cheers

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purple1011d 9h ago

Xbox hardware revenue tanks to lowest point of Xbox Series generation

Profchaos1d 9h ago

I'm not surprised surface is struggling they aren't relevant anymore

DOMination-22h ago

In the last two years they've started exiting the consumer market altogether. All of the newest Surface products are business models only. They can't seem to work out what they want to do with it.

XBManiac1d 8h ago

Too expensive hardware when others offer the same or more for less? Good work, Green Team.

SimpleDad1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

"Despite some early successes for Xbox games on rival platforms, Xbox hardware is down by a massive 31 percent this quarter."
"Without Activision Blizzard, Microsoft’s overall gaming revenue would have actually declined this quarter."
"Xbox content and services would have only been up a single percent without Activision Blizzard..."
"It looks like next quarter is going to be a similar story for gaming at Microsoft, too."

That is crazy... so A/B/K is carrying the whole Xbox gaming.
Oh and Microsoft will be fine. Windows, Office and Cloud are growing with each pc purchase.

purple1011d 7h ago

Activision: "we gonna need a bigger rucksack/backpack please"

Microsoft: "why's that"

Activision: "to carry yo' weak ass'

Profchaos1d 7h ago (Edited 1d 7h ago )

Top brass have also wanted to start seeing returns on the 100 billion they have put into various Xbox related moves so seeing more multiplatform games is highly likely especially from abk

It's basically saying that PlayStation is the reason Xbox is afloat right now thinks to Ps5 versions of COD

Kornholic1d 6h ago

So basically PS and PC gamers' money is keeping Xbox on life support.

MrDead23h ago

The only growth MS will get out of the console industry is if it supports it's rivals platforms. Xbox is a pointless machine now. I can see them on a big push for live next, and they won't give up on trying to buy Steam.

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Why Monopolies In Gaming Must Not Be Allowed

As of right now, there are no monopolies in the games industry, and for the sake of the medium as a whole, they never should either.

thorstein1d 18h ago

Shouldn't be allowed in any field.

Inverno1d 15h ago

And yet the biggest tech companies in America are essentially that. They buy up all the small comps only to kill them off and steal what they have, and if they can't buy em they bleed them to death.

jwillj2k41d 14h ago

Eventually they’ll realize the value is with the employee not the company. Buying an IP means nothing if the people who contributed are let go. They’ll get it one day.

MrCrimson1d 13h ago

tech is different because they buy threats and then kill them. Twitter bought Vine and did nothing with it. Despite people seemingly liking it. Could've had tiktok a decade before bytedance. go figure.

Zenzuu1d 14h ago

Monopolies shouldn't be allowed regardless. Not just for gaming.

MrCrimson1d 13h ago

They buy IPs not talent. That's why these buyouts never work and the IPs die. Right now it's too expensive to develop games - but I expect that to shift maybe as AI tools can make it easier. The best games have been indie games for awhile as big developers fuck their ips to death with "games as a service" -

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This Gigabyte GPU is now among the cheapest RTX 4090s on Amazon after a hefty deal

On Amazon, you can't get an RTX 4090 for less than this one from Gigabyte, which now offers great value after an eye-catching April deal.